Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
Non spoiler review of Thor:Ragnarok from Collider. Apparently the film is a balls to the wall comedy, even more so than the Guardians of the Galaxy series. I really don't connect to the humor in the Guardians films, but I love Taika's humour in Boy, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, and WWDITS, so my fingers are crossed for the cast. Apparently Cate doesn't have much screen time, and her section of the film is not the strongest part of the narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=916&v=EjYEhapmkTo
Evening all! Thanks for the Ragnarok links.
I haven't been able to get interested in the publicity material - ironically, given that the movie actually looks good.
On a totally non Thor related note, I did randomly find this though. See page 13 for an article by Tom's sister about her journalistic career. She is very accomplished in her own right. http://www.downehouse.net/downloads/CloistersSpring2015final.pdf
You may all have seen it before - apologies if so, it had passed me by but I thought it was very interesting.
>>251 Still interested in T:R, but I'm so burned out seeing so many reblogs of the spoilers clips that I'm now far more interested in Black Panther.
>>252 That link is new to me. I didn't realize she was so accomplished.
In other news that I'll summarize as much as possible: TS's latest single, 'Gorgeous' - which dropped on Thursday - is about her current bf, Joe. She stated this to some of her fans that she surprise-visited these past couple of weeks. One of them tweeted this info, which I saw, but I don't have a link. In the discussion of the song lyrics, a new timeline has become obvious: she met Joe while with Calvin and started an affair with Joe. She broke up with Calvin, got Joe an invite to the Met Galas, then met and pretended to be interested in Tom. She then dated Tom to cover up the affair, the Kimye stuff, and the sexual groping charges against the DJ. She then breaks up with Tom, waits a several months to reveal that she and Joe had been supposedly dating only since October. At some point between the reveal and the GQ article, Tom probably learned the real timeline of the affair and realized he'd been used. Explains why the tone of the article was more emotional than people thought it would be.
>>253 CORRECTION: not cover up to the sexual groping charges against the DJ, but to distract and deflect away from it.
>>253 I read about this. Apparently she held a listening party for her stans (she has to be the only celebrity I know who actually searches out and spends time with the nutters) and she told them it and other songs were all about Joe. That may or may not be true, but it must be what she wants us to think if she told all the stans.
I also read that she changes the lyrics of her songs, or revises them, before release, which doesn't surprise me as I guess most songs go through several versions before finally being recorded. It's been speculated that she actually wrote this about TH and then tweaked the lyrics to make it about JA. Everything except the "boyfriend who's older than us" line fits the TH analysis, I think. (BTW how infantile is this line? This is a 28 year old woman supposedly hiding in the corner with her new squeeze from someone who is 35...)
>>255>>253 TS wrote Gorgeous about her gf, Karlie Kloss. Karlie Is younger than Calvin. Karlie was at the met ball that night. And that lyric about wanting something that she can't have, is about her not being able to have a public normal relationship with her gf. As T has had public fauxmances with Joe and Tom, that's the only way the lyrics make sense. Joe is literally Karlie without a wig on, it's crazy. They have the same eye shape, too. And if you look at the met ball pics of T and Karlie hugging on the dance floor, and the 4th of July pics of T and Karlie cuddling and holding hands on the waterslide, and the pics of them hugging in their Vogue article body to body, it's kind of obvious. They also wear matching necklaces with initials T and K... I just hope that one day Hollywood can stop with these silly games and let poeple be who they are, and stop promoting these fauxmances for the public.
In much more fun news, Tom was spotted earlier this week at Soho Farmhouse in Oxfordshire, but was back in London by Thursday.
Holy hell, look at the state of this board.
If its an accurate reflection of TH's career then retirement is nigh.
>>257 There's no Kaylors here. I suggest keeping those opinions to where they have nested- in the darkest swamplands of tumblr.
>>256 I'm starting to admire your tenacity.
>>253 This timeline is so confusing and seems much more illogical than <<255. What a shit song though. Her fans must be struggling, as we have been, to heart eye our fav.
Is anyone here looking forward to TR?
I could do with a hearty laugh and according to reviews it delivers so I may go but I'm not champing at the bit.
Not a Kaylor, just someone who thinks that the celebrities who have such controlled media managed images are not at all what they seem (side-eyeing you Joe Jonas and Bradley Cooper), and I have my fingers and toes are crossed that TS's name never comes up on a TH blog again, in the history of time. Period. I've just hit a wall where I can't look any more "accidentally" taken crystal clear professional pics of celebrities who are "loved up" and reportedly are "so in love" just when they just coincidentally require our attention to promote their artistic endeavours.
I enjoyed the intensity and the melodrama of Thor 1 so much. I fear I will not like the humour of Thor 3, since I don't have the best sense of humour, sadly. But the movie is tracking at 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, so I'm not required! I'm most interested in what Tom's next project will be. Will Tom be forced to do more theatre? Will he head over to HBO? Is his team's strategy to assume that he will get praise for Thor 3's success, b/c imo that's not going to work. Maybe he needs to reboot as a character actor in ridiculously small work horse parts like Kevin Bacon did when his career hit the skids, or Colin Farrell, of course. Or maybe he needs another gritty police series, like Wallander, but with him as the lead?
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_ragnarok_2017/
>>258 If Himself isn't going to give us any career news to work with, we're reduced to discussing how much more of an idiot/famewhore/jerk TS has managed to make him look with her latest emission. I think no matter which super-sekret interpretation of this song you pick, it results in TH looking like a total pawn to cover up her affair(s), or someone who hit on a young woman who already had a boyfriend, or TS's beard, or....
>>258, 259 I'm looking forward to TR in the sense that I liked the one movie of Taika's that I've seen (HFTWP) and it will be the first time I can see Tom as Loki on the big screen. But I have the niggling sense, despite his best assurances in PR that this won't be warmed-over meatloaf, that it will be pretty much Loki as we've seen him before. (I've been trying to avoid full reviews, but the tweets from the press preview generally agreed that Valkyrie is the breakout star of this one, while ignoring Loki. Shades of KSI and "Tom Hiddleston was fine." Zzzzzzzzzz.)
So if his team is relying on TR for a big career boost, I agree that's not likely. (It's the fourth time he's played the role, people, with at least one more round to go!) I hope his US team is working hard on finding him one of the really choice projects that the streaming services are doing these days.
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>>258 I read this as "look at the state of this beard." I couldn't agree more!
As regards the board, it's still a fun place to hang out, but that loooong since ceased to have a great deal to do with TH. I have this feeling that if we all met up in a bar and he walked in, we'd look up from our drinks and say, "yeah whatever" before carrying on with our own conversation!
I still have hope that he will throw us a bone, but in the meantime TS is all we got. That woman has a lot to answer for.
>>260 I read that as "TH looking like a total prawn"
All this discussion of 'his team'. There's so little going on I don't think he's had an active team for a while. Certainly not a marketing team aside from a chaperone to openings. The last attempt to resurrect his image was the GQ article in which he came across as a wet sock. I think his agents have him on the disaster sleeper file and by the looks of his beard and visible foundation line, even his Hollywood groomer has been ditched.
I have no doubt that if any offers of leads in HBO/ Netflix shows came in he would dry hump the producers' leg so the offers are likely coming as bit parts and shit parts if at all. Maybe he's so traumatised he's retired from the public, only to perform in small, inaccessible and unreviewable theatre shows.
Maybe a future awaits in childrens content, riding on the success of TR and a brand new tidal wave of pre- pubescent fans or a Galaxy Quest- esque bitter retirement at eternal comic cons as a visibly ageing god.
I certainly don't expect him to emerge from his mancave or throw bones until the album drop blows over.
Great video of Tom being interviewed onset of Thor 3 at minute 17:24 by children in Australia affiliated with the children's hospital! He dances and beat boxes. If keeps the kids happy, I'm for it, I guess. Chris is interviewd just before that. And their joint visit to the hospital is covered at the beginning of the video.
Alive!
At a gala opening of a new theatre. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2389079577984841&id=2162417180651083&set=pcb.2389081281318004&source=48&refid=13&__tn__=%2B%3D
>>262 I almost typed "prawn" as I was writing that!
This article about Fassbender has been making the rounds: http://observer.com/2017/10/michael-fassbender-snowman-assassins-creed-movie-star/
If its final theory is true (which I'm not at all sure it is), movie actors are damned if they do, damned if they don't. The article swipes at TH for HS, but then asks if perhaps Fassy isn't a star because the public knows so little about him. Too bad it doesn't dig into the effects of poor project choices....
So apparently it seems that Tom has gotten a puppy. A fan met him with the puppy and tweeted about it (and from the tweets it sounds like she was stalking him with dedication) The tweets are in Italian but the all the tweets pertaining to the puppy and Tom and their translation can be found on the Crazy Smart one's blog. Fandom discussion is currently at #Tomsettlingdown level. He was with a lady friend so it's a combination of everything.
Now are Taylor and her new bf going to get papped with a puppy because of this? Oh no it'll be with her cats and it'll be an IG story moment. She's currently knee deep among her Tumblr fans so I'm sure she's gotten wind. If there were pics of Tom and puppy, then the IG story with bf and cats might already be in pre-production but since it's all tweets maybe she won't...it's Taylor though, Miss Must Outshine My Exes.
It's his emotional support dog. It may also be giving him career advice.
Apparently it is a cocker spaniel puppy and it's 9 weeks old. He said last year when he was promoting ISTL that he wanted a dog but didn't have time because of all the travelling. I guess now he has time. I am glad for him, no snark intended. There isn't much point doing a high pressure highly paid job for years on end if the net result is that it makes it impossible for you to enjoy the fruits of your success.
>>267 Read some of the posts about it. I must have missed the part where it said that he was with a lady friend. But yay for getting a cute Spaniel. Settling down (for the moment) must feel good.
In the same way I doubted the cat was his when mentioned in a 'reputable' magazine, I'll wait for a confirmation of his new status as a pet owner.
I think he said in that interview that he didn't have pets because it wouldn't be fair on them since he was away so much. If the pup is that age, he was thinking about getting it before or during the Hamlet run. Long days of rehearsal, performance days and thoughts of upcoming promo wouldn't inspire a sensible person to get a dog. Especially if he was hoping Hamlet would bring the scripts and work in.
But then sometimes it's hard to resist a puppy. Still I'll wait for print or photo confirmation. I hope it's a spread in Horse and Hound. I hope they get Taffy to do it. I hope he mentions how he and Taylor talked about getting a puppy before the cruel paps/public/media drove them apart and crushed their totally real, not staged love.
Enjoy your extra hour, everyone. Side note: children don't recognize parents' right to an extra hour of sleep. Each day is a lesson.
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>>269, >>271 Apparently some asked the tweeter if the puppy was Tom's, and she replied that she didn't know. (It could have belonged to the woman who was with him.) I think's Anon's point about taking time to enjoy what his success has brought him is a very good one, but I wonder if he's really learned that lesson yet. I have trouble believing that's he'll give up his hard driving approach to his career once the offers start coming in again. (As a recovering workaholic myself, I know that it can be hard not to fall back into old habits!)
There's an Italian style magazine coming out with a new issue on Wed. that has a stop-in-your-tracks beautiful (I'd have said gorgeous, but...) picture of Tom on the cover. Per Google, the headline with it translates roughly to "Do Not Ask Me Anymore" and the teaser blurb refers to him as "an English actor of great elegance and few words (don’t even think about mentioning Taylor Swift!" So we may see another war-of-wills with an interviewer.
The preview isn't up on their site (http://style.corriere.it/) anymore , but the info is on the Crazy Intelligent one's and other tumblrs. Worth a peek just for the groomed-version-of-RADAHam-look picture, IMO.
Tom and Tessa Thompson talk Thor 3 w Collider on Action sequences
http://collider.com/tessa-thompson-tom-hiddleston-interview-thor-ragnarok/
>>272 The cover I was talking about: https://twitterDOTcom/snehzfatema1999/status/925054589623181312
Spotted on I think Thursday on the set of the latest Avengers movie. Maybe the career isn't as moribund as we had feared. Torrilla has pics.
PS had the server for the board been weird for a few days?
>>276 It's not known if it was for IW reshoots or A4, though. Apparently both are filming at the same time.
The sever has been acting up; this is the first time I've been able to get on in a few days.
Against better judgement but with a wildly still high tomato-meter reading, I went along to see Thor. It was a genuine blast! Tom's Marvel payday will keep him in puppy-food for a long time to come..
>>276>>277 Yep, the server has been acting up for two days.
Sidenote, remember how I said that Tom should emulate Jeremy Irons' career path, and I mentioned a film he did called "M Butterfly" where a 1930s french diplomat falls in love with a beautiful chinese opera singer who is secretly a man? Well, Clive Owen stole my idea for Tom, and he is currently leading the "M Butterfly" revivial on Broadway. If Clive wins a Tony nomination or an award, Tom, that was your show.
Just saw Thor 3 last night! It was thoroughly enjoyable. Wickedly funny, very much of Taika Waititi's style. First off, Tom was elegant and mischievous, as usual. But this wasn't Loki's story. Someone said that the Loki character is like the Jack Sparrow character in the POTC films. His character burst out completely realized and as a fan favourite, and now there isn't anywhere else to go with his story arch. Taika as a director is great at comedy and world building. And he's esp good at character interactions and exploring the fun ways they can contrast with other characters. The Thor/Hulk scenes rocked. And the the Dr. Strange/Asgard boys scene was hilarious as well. Jeff Goldblum was a hoot. But, the action sequences could have been much much better. And overall, I thought that the film lacked emotional gravitas and mythology. Some unrevokable tragic events occur, and they didn't resonate the way they should have with the audience, they just kind of breezed by. In the director's aim to lighten the tone of the Thor series, the film was tonally inconsistent overall, and it seemed like they didn't know how how to transition from the humour to the more grave moments, as Branagh did in Thor 1.
I also saw T:R this afternoon. I enjoyed it, though >>279 Sosorry is correct that it's not a Loki story at all. (I think more could have been done with his arc if they hadn't moved Thor's character past caring much about him. I missed that emotional connection and tension between the two of them, which to me are what made at least Thor I more than a comic book movie. Here their relationship is mostly played for laughs.) Tom gets to do more comedy, but that's about it for character development.
Lots of funny moments, I thought the smaller fights scenes were good, and there were a few beautifully imagined and realized big moments (Valkyrie's back story, for example). But to me, it didn't hang together as a "Thor must save his homeworld" epic story. (It also didn't help that I didn't find Hela to be nearly as convincing a villain as Loki. I thought a little of her went a long way.) It was so busy, with so many characters, that it was hard to care much about any of them or what happened to them in the end. Thor 1 is still my favorite of the Thor films, I'm afraid, because as Sosorry pointed out, Branagh handled the balance of epic and comic skillfully.
Article referencing why Marvel didn't require Tom to do promo for Thor 3. And that maybe with a built-in fan base and a strong social media campaign presence, Marvel just doesn't need to pay for actors to fly round the world first class in order to plug their films. The comments are always fun.
New Early Man trailer and article here: http://people.com/movies/watch-new-trailer-early-man-creators-wallace-gromit/
So apparently that DeNiro imitation paid off for Tom! (Though the typo in the sentence makes it even funnier....)
Track titles from TS's album include "This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things," which sounds as if it's taken from the TH nannies' lament about other fans criticizing Tom and "driving him off" social media. Prepare for fandown meltdown in 3 - 2 - 1....\\
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbN9rHVH0bo/?taken-by=taylorswift
THids did get a puppy. Torilla has pics up. It's a really cute pup! Maybe it'll help him land better roles? lol Just joking. But it really is a very cute puppy. Tom looks his usual self in his usual uniform plus his grey hoodie and that black coat.
Well, TH must be expecting the worst from TS's album drop, because he did a pap stroll with The Puppy! Pix are on Torilla's and various of the Tom tumblrs (sorry, my phone isn't letting me link).
>>284>>285 Puppy pics below! Adorable dog. Tom looks like he is cradling his new pet for its dear life. He needs the unconditional emotional support, I think. Not sure if I buy his cold hard stare-down at the paps, since this looks like a planned pap walk. Am I glad that Tom's not hiding from the album drop? Am I wary that people will link his new photos to infantile pop song lyrics, and compare his puppy pics to you know who's eventual pap walk her new new fauxbeau, Joe Alwyn? Its a puzzlement. The bottom line is that I want more drama from Tom on stage and screen, and less drama in real life.
TH and puppy pics
http://hiddleston-daily.tumblr.com/
>>286 His puppy is really cute. I love those eyes, so frickin adorable! Perhaps he did get the puppy to ward off all the negativity he'd been feeling post-Hiddleswift. How much you wanna bet Swift will try to incorporate her own pets into her pap walk with Joe? Her album doesn't release until tomorrow but I saw the lyrics to two of her songs from a bootlegged copy which seem to say she admits to using Tom but also laying the blame for it squarely on his shoulders. I've never been good at interpreting Taylor Swift sings because tbh they sound super high school and I can never tell who she's singing about. Even right now with the supposed Tom song, the lyrics read very high school angst to me. I guess that's her thing though.
So, Anon., a couple of weeks ago you said, wisely, "he was thinking about getting it before or during the Hamlet run. Long days of rehearsal, performance days and thoughts of upcoming promo wouldn't inspire a sensible person to get a dog."
We conclude from this that....?!!!!
BTW he is back in London. Street furniture in the full length pics shows, at right, a TFL bus stop. So he was probably filming (??) pickups for the last Avengers film. Doesn't necessarily mean he won't be in the next one but as Heynon pointed out, not a given from being in Atlanta.
PS he looks very cute with the dog, but gosh that is a thousand yard stare.
PPS has he had highlights? The hair looks suddenly a lot blonder again, though there seems to be a filter on the pics making it hard to tell.
PPPS dog was called Bobby, I think.
>>288 I assumed the hair looked lighter because he washed it lol I'm sorry but his long curls looked very unwashed during the Thor3 promos (he looked unwashed but that's mostly because of the same sweater and jeans combo every single time), looked like either natural hair oil buildup or lots of hair product to tame the curls. You could be right that it's most likely a filter.
I do like the pap walk with the pup. I'm feeling it. Wiser decision than being papped with a girlfriend, considering Miss Pop Star is about to do one this weekend with her boyfriend.
>>289 Yes, I know exactly what you mean. He looked grubby - I don't like the long hair and unkempt beard combo. You can have one but not the other. Or you can be Jason Momoa but nobody else.
In these photos he looks a lot better - same clothes but cleaner somehow. Not like he picked them off the floor but maybe like he washed and ironed them.
So is the pup a sign that he has settled down with a GF - or the sign of a man who is perennially single and has a dog to keep him company? Second question - does he let the dog sleep in the bed (you know he does! He wears the same jeans 4876 days running!)
>>290 I think he just got a puppy because he wanted one, not because he's got a girlfriend. Based on previous observations, I'd say he's still single. He usually dresses better when he's with someone. Like when he was with JA, EO, and TS, he put some effort and kept himself clean and his clothes varied a bit even if it was between 3-4 of the same outfits. Right now it looks like he's not making any effort at all. He probably looks a little clean right now because he was working up until recently. I won't be surprised if the beard and unwashed curls come back.
>>290 I think the more important question is does the puppy want to sleep in his human's bed considering hygiene issues? Please for the love of all that's sanitary, let this man be keeping his house clean and doing his laundry.
>>291 Yeah, I am not getting a "settling down with my gf" puppy feel. More like, I will never work abroad long term again so at least I can enjoy owning a dog.
I am definitely getting an "I did a pap stroll with my puppy" feel though. Am I too cynical?
>>292 I bet it is a slum. He is single and 36 and straight. He said something once about doing his own cleaning (!!). My personal experience is that men falling into this category change the sheets only when hoping for sex.
OMG! The press has reported that Tom has finally moved on from TS b/c he has been spotted cuddling with a beautiful brunette, his puppy! Tee hee! Don't let the bstards get you down Tom! Snuggle with little Bobby and dream of storming the Oscar stage one day, after all of this nonsense has subsided.
https://www.thecut.com/2017/11/tom-hiddleston-puppy-london.html
>>286, >>288 Yes, that "I don't see the paps, I just happen to be giving the icy blue glare of death" face isn't convincing. Especially since he's wearing his glasses and should be able to see at a distance.
>>288 Since he was first spotted with the pup a couple of weeks ago when it was only 8 weeks old, he might have been thinking about getting it while he was doing Hamlet, but didn't take the plunge until after the run of the play. (I wonder if no good offers materialized at that point and he just said the hell with it and got the dog.)
>>288, >>289 I think the photos were filtered or edited to be lighter than real life to keep the dog from looking too dark to see its details. If you look at Tom and the bystanders, they all look a bit washed out. And his hair can really change color depending on how much product is in it. (I think it's mostly product, not unwashed-hair oil, because his hair is so unruly that only heavy product will keep it in place. At the LA T:R premiere, when he walked away from the two interviewers, his hair was flying up at the back even though he had a ton of goop in it!) >>290 Agree that he wasn't well groomed during the T:R promo; at the very least, the beard needed a good trim.
>>292 Well, dogs love to roll in the stinkiest things they can find, so Bobby is probably fascinated when Tom has all sorts of "good" smells....
>>293 Anon, you are not too cynical! I even wondered for a second if this was a rented dog.
>>294 And sometimes those men don't even change the sheets when they have hopes (ewwwwwww).
>>287 I want to see TS and the new toy boy carrying some of her cats on the pap stroll!
After skimming through all the album lyrics, it seems that one song is all about Tom (Getaway Car), one song disses both him and Calvin (I Did Something Bad), and a couple of others also reference them both ("older men," "Land Rovers and Jaguars"). See https://genius.com/albums/Taylor-swift/Reputation
The weirdest bit, though, is the Prologue (https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-reputation-prologue-lyrics). Who is she blaming because her "heartbreaks have been used as entertainment"?!
That chick is a piece of work.
>>293 Considering what a mess Hollywood currently is, it might be a good idea for him to steer clear. Way too much instability going on currently. Going after the usual biggies for roles is kinda moot at this point.
>>296 Yeah, I wouldn't mind rolling around in some Tom myself ;) (provided he bathes first and changes his sheets)
>>297 oh boy that prologue is tone deaf af. She creates her own "reputation" and then writes a thesis on it, blaming others? And she's touting the whole "people show different sides of themselves to different people" spiel that most of us learned back when we were in our teens. I remember my friend used to have it in his AIM profile back in high school because he was trying to all deep and get laid. She is definitely the garden variety case of arrested development with a nice generous serving of narcissism.
>>296 To get a pedigree pup in the UK you usually have to say you want a pup while mum is pregnant, or when the pups are tiny. Friends of mine have often gone to see the litter when the pups are 4 weeks old to choose which one they want. They then pick it up some weeks later when it is old enough to leave mum. I don't think this is a spur of the moment thing. If the dog was 9 weeks old when the stalker saw him 2 weeks ago it was born in late August and he probably committed to it during or just after the Hamlet run.
And the dailymail has an article with Tom dancing at the Met Ball, and wearing the heart tank top on the July 4th party, and with TS in Australia, alongside the Getaway Car lyrics. No puppy pics so far. At least the article mentioned that Tom had been formerly private before in his lifestyle. Their entire PR relationship was geared toward selling this album with this gross narrative, as we predicted as soon as we saw the staged beach photos in Rhode Island. The comments are great. The general public isn't buying into any of this silliness. Bonnie never left Clyde in a motel bar, b/c they were actual parters and she was the only member of his gang that he trusted implicitly! And they never saw each other again after the LA dinner at Hillstone. I'm just glad that Thor 3 is not mentioned, and that the DM didn't link the article to Vanity Fair's article featuring Tom as Clyde Barrow w Felicity Jones.
>>299 Ah, I didn't know that timing for reserving a puppy. Still, he probably knew even then that he wouldn't be doing much promo for T:R or filming in Atlanta in this round. So this probably was the best time for him to take the puppy plunge. And a good thing too, because those pix are currently above the many, many Reputation articles in his search results.
I wonder if his nicer-than-normal uniform in those pix is because those were the newer versions of his standards that were bought for Hamlet? The hoodie looks almost new.
Awww, puppy's first pap stroll. :(
>>288 It says he's not sensible. As to cynicism, let us remember that this is a man who pap strolled with his mother, sister and young niece in order to legitimize a blatantly faux relationship. Would he get a dog to have something cute to deflect from Tayto-become-music? I do not doubt that he would. He pretended to be in a relationship with someone for exposure. What's a dog compared to that? How's that for cynical!
I don't think it's a rent-a-dog but I suspect it will be off to his mother's the moment a job comes through.
>>299 Same in the US. You will often put down a payment when the mother is pregnant and then follow through with the rest of the fee if the gender/health of the pup meets expectations. This is the timeline I was thinking of when I wrote about the circumstances in which he was considering pet ownership.
Is he nesting or co-parenting the pup with someone? I don't know. He's always seemed a playboy/serial dater to me, two/three on the go, as casual as causal could be. That doesn't change overnight. So while I don't doubt he's 'seeing someone' I don't think she's become a new puppy mommy.
Besides it's only been nine months since the GQ article. He still mending a broken heart.
Gossip Cop response from Team Tom below.
>>304 Yep. Tom is too naive to run in the media games of Hollywood. Unlke Calvin Harris who wasn't afraid to clap back by not only defending his song cowriting and producing skills on his Rihanna song with TS, but tweeted that TS controls all of the media and that TS fans who want to believe a fictional sanitized version of TS exist in real life, just need to grow up, and then he claimed his phone had been stolen! Ha! Ballsy.
Team Tom's response to the TS album on gossip cop. Stating that no one close to him comments to the press about any of his feelings, or knows his opinions on the album. That he respects art in general, doesn't assume that any of the songs on the album are about him at all, and art is open to interpretation. And that their "brief relationship" ended over a year ago. Mature. Sad that the minions crave petty drama over grown up statements. Can't wait to talk about what happens in Tom's career, next!
https://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-reaction-taylor-swift-new-album-lyrics/
Oddly, I am currently eating in the Santa Monica location of Hillstone restaurant, where Tom and TS had their last interaction in their fauxmance. FYI, lots of families enjoying the holiday eating burgers and fries, and no paparazzi in sight : )
Why does Lainey hate TH so much?
>>307 B/c Lainey is in the pockets of Team TS. And she gives Lainey, People, US magazine, and Rolling stone scoops. And they get a lot of TS fans to click to their online sights b/c of her. TS is just like most other young artists today. They worked hard, wrote a few good songs by themselves as youngsters, and now they have teams of songwriters and gossip rags, and a even a few newspapers editors who inflate the ratings of their new albums, in their pockets to help ensure their success. So much money is used to promote their careers that they are too big to fail. That line about Tom being too thirsty for PR was always her strategy to hurt Tom. Sad that he wasn't wise enough to stay the heck away from PR relationships in Hollywood, b/c you have to be reality tv star, or young pop star greedy/catty/petty and capable of lying well, to survive them intact. The puppy pap walk has been used by Affleck and Liv Schreiber in their post relationship PR battles, so it was a bit of a tired move from his team. Tom's absence from Marvel Thor 3 promotion was part of Marvel's plan to spend less money flying and housing actors first class around the world, and instead rely on a very controlled social media campaign and their established fan base to increase their profits. If Marvel had wanted Tom for more PR, he couldn't have gotten out of it, if he was contractually obligated to be there.
From a gossip column in today's Times:
"Tom Hiddleston’s diary is enough to make the most hardened workaholic feel like a slacker. The actor has just played Hamlet on stage, and, even though his latest film, Thor: Ragnarok, is still in cinemas, he is already working on the fourth Avengers flick. So it’s little wonder that he wants to escape the rat race. My mole tells me Hiddleston, 36, is ditching London for the country, and has his eye on pads in East Sussex. He’d feel right at home — his Thor co-star Cate Blanchett has a 13-acre pile in Crowborough."
Here's the link: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-homes-for-tom-hiddleston-and-taylor-swift-dzgvmf8bv
Personally I think Suffolk is more likely, as E Sussex is a long way from both parents (Suffolk and Oxford respectively). Maybe it's an error/mishearing, or maybe deliberate misinformation.
If you want to live near coffee shops and cinemas, East Sussex basically means Brighton, so any home there would also still be very public, and maybe even a bit more so as it is a bit of a small town. He'd have privacy if he goes for a true country pad - but that seems unlikely for a coffee-addicted single man, even with a dog.
>>310 Probably could be buying a country home instead of uprooting from London altogether. I don't think his acting ambitions have changed so I don't see him leaving London. A country home is more space for his growing puppy and also provides a quiet place for him from his constantly stalking fans that hang around his neighborhood.
I know his nanny fans are saying this move signals him settling down and we'll hear engagement news soon but I wonder if he's simply just buying a country home to enjoy some time away at. The purchase makes sense with the money his two movies made this year. Usually actors start expanding their real estate when they come into a steady stream of cash from their blockbuster franchises. Some they keep for themselves, some are investments and they rent them out etc.
Taffy Akner, authoress of the much debated TH GQ article, expresses her twitter feelings of why people supposedly like the petty music of Taylor Swift. Taffy knows how to self-promote, my gosh!
Taffy Brodesser-AknerVerified account @taffyakner 4h4 hours ago
A friendly reminder that we only recognize Taylor Swift's pettiness and sensitivity because we share it.
A friendly, sweeping and therefore undoubtedly flawed reminder. Thanks, Taff.
>>312, >>313 And in other Taffy/TH news, who should be interviewed on a podcast and say more about Tom and the "mystery brunette" DM story but Ms. TA: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/write-about-now/id1286555942?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
Apparently he called her after the pap pix came out: "He called me up. And he said, “I see what’s going on. I’m so sorry, I would like to apologize to your husband. I meant… I hope you understand, he understands there’s no disrespect, and I am horrified. And I can only imagine what you’re going through.” And I said, “Tom. This has been the best week of my life. Like, we should try to enjoy this more. This is amazing. Please, do not shut it down, I am really enjoying this.” "
Hers may be the longest 15 minutes of fame evah.
Two articles below from The Hollywood Reporter. The first says that AMC, the Ink Factory, and the BBC have greenlit John le Carre's The Little Drummer Girl, and mentions how successful TNM was, worldwide. The Night Manager 2 is mentioned in the second link, and it is still in early development, apparently. Methinks that idea needs not to happen. Tom should think like Elsa in Frozen and Let it Go. The second article talks about why limited series shows are given additional seasons. That's obvious. Avarice and greed.
>>316 Also, as one exec quoted in the 2nd article says, "It’s easier to expand an existing brand than to create one in the first place." In other words, lack of originality or desire to take risks, also known as fear of losing money and face.
Here is the Sir Kenneth Branagh "Happy Sad Confused" podcast with Josh Horowitz on MTV. He talks about casting Thor 1, Tom, and Chris Hemsworth at 23 minutes, and his 4 hour film production of Hamlet w Kate Winslet, Julie Christie, etc. Apparently Sir Ken might star in a version of Macbeth directed by Martin Scorsese. If so, Tom should try to nab a part in that film. Fassbender already mucked it up. I'm determined that someone has to be the first actor to win an OScar for a Shakespearean performance since Olivier for Halmet in 1949.
http://www.mtv.com/news/podcasts/happy-sad-confused/kenneth-branagh/
Taffy B-A returns to the Hiddlecow to milk yet more from her one interview!
I am beginning to think she called the paps herself.
Apparently Hiddleston, Coleman, and co are in negotations for The Night Manager 2. Hmm... I do not like this. There is no more night to manage. Period. Unless they have someone of JJ Abrams levels of imagination and innovation to build a new story, and an award winning writer to spin a tale like his life depended on it, I would be truly concerned.
>>321 It sounded to me like the same stuff that various people from the first series have been saying for a while: "it will only be done if it can be the same quality as the first one...." I suspect this will never come to pass, because by the time they can develop something really good, the director and major cast members will have other commitments. (Unless they do "The Night Manager - 10 Years After," hee hee.)
One of the major cast members might not have any commitments....
Maybe he's decided to stick with the proven over the uncertain. From now on he'll only do Marvel movies, ticket-balloted Shakespeare plays with three week runs and Night Manager sequels...and pap walks with puppies, never fake girlfriends or GQ writers.
Dicks out for Taffy.
>>323 So can we call it now? Is he officially a Has-Been? One-Hit Wonder?
My oh my! Kenneth Branagh might be signing on to direct and star in another Poirot detective film, Death on the Nile! Tom must grab the starring role of Simon Doyle, who may be a victim of a heinous crime, or the murderer, himself. The story is about a gruesome love triangle that develops between a wealthy heiress, her brand new dashingly handsome and previously impoverished husband (hopefully Tom), and his heartbroken ex fiancee. It all takes place on a paddle steamer traveling down the Nile, and someone ends up dead. I think a handsomely made, well cast period ensemble piece, would be a good fit for him. Or, Tom should head to France and grab Isabelle Hupert for a steamy french thriller. A May-December romance film with her would rock!
And we have a cornucopia of puppy-walking photos with Tom and Bobby! They are strolling in the park with Tom's Hamlet costar, noted playwright/actress Lolita Chakrabarti (who played Gertrude), who is married to the phenomenal thespian Adrian Lester. Lester starred in Branagh's 1930's set film jukebox musical production of Shakespeare's "Love's Labour's Lost" featuring Alicia Silverstone (embarrassingly.)
>>326 You beat me to it! I wonder if Ms. C is the one holding Bobby's leash because Tom was waving his hands around too much and confusing the pup? Also, that dog has huge paws!
>>327 And now, apparently Lolita Chakrabarti's nickname is Bobbie! So maybe Tom was talking to Lolita in the coffee shop w his new puppy, and his puppy's name is yet, unknown. What a mystery. Let's protect the privacy of the puppy as it begins to navigate the pernicious eyes the celebrity press.
I think Lolita Chakrabarti is Tom's current Ken B. She was pictured next to him at that theater opening and she is a producer/ playwright. Since he's having trouble landing movies right now, he's most likely aiming at plays. Could be they are working on a project together and pitching it together looking fir investors. Would explain them hanging out. I think it's all professional. Unless she's left her husband and holy scandal THids, being the other dude again? Jk, I highly doubt it.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone Stateside! 🦃
We don't get the day off and the turkey but thank you for giving the UK some extra sales for our Christmas shopping!!
Thank you Anon. I don't know about anyone else, but I ate well.
>>328 So it appears that the pupper is called Bobby/Bobbie (spelling is not confirmed) according to one of a number of twitter users running into TH on the street (once with BC and SH over the weekend) or on the Tube.
from @angelasargeant1: https://twitter
.com/angelasargeant1/status/935613051537063937
Avengers IW trailer w an intense shot of Loki/Tom holding the tesseract. Is it odd that I enjoy the stand alone films much more than the Avenger group efforts?
Okay, The Night Manager 2 officially has a writer, Matthew Orton. His resume seems rather limited on imdb.com Is a sequel really necessary? Not really sure what I'm hoping will happen with this project. Haven't read a word about Ben Wheatley's Hard-Boiled adaptation, in a whole year.
http://deadline.com/2017/11/matthew-orton-the-night-manager-1202216478/
>>333 The production keeps saying it's going to be a slowly developing project so they probably need to figure out the direction they want to take season 2 in. I mean if they're lucky it could turn out to be a successful season 2. If not then ouch. Also, is Tom even attached to s2? It doesn't sound like he's been signed on yet. He said he'd consider it, definitely not a confirmation.
I couldn't even finish the first season tbh. The writing and direction and character building weren't really my thing. I could barely make it to the end of ep2. So it's safe to say I won't be tuning in to a s2. But just because something isn't my taste doesn't mean it's not a good show/ movie.
Does Orton have a twitter? Watch for the telltale follow from TH. That's as good an indication that he's involved as a snap of the actual contract.
Is it necessary? No. But looks like they'll do it. As has been mentioned: the greenback talks.
I would guess that, if asked, he'd do it. He doesn't seem to be drowning in work, and it's really his main claim to fame - besides for Marvel and Tayto. Even if it's crap, he'll do it. Mainly because he can't tell the difference between good and bad, and because his talent will overcome all failings of plot, plan and script, e.g., ISTL, Shit Island, Tayto....
>>332 Not odd at all. The first time I watched Avengers I, I found it rather overwhelming with all the characters. I found Age of Ultron confusing and boring, and I haven't made myself watch Civil War yet. I think IW and A4 have "hot mess" potential.
>>333, >>334 Re Hard Boiled, I vaguely remember seeing something in the last few months where Wheatley joked about having resumed working on the script.
I did make it through TNM's first season, but it was hard going for the last few episodes when it got so ridiculous. In some ways, they might be better off with original material for a second season.
>>335 With KSI, it turns out that what he probably was pitched by Legendary during the CP shoot was not what Warner wanted in the final script - see this from the screenwriter: https://screenrant.com/kong-skull-island-characters-deleted-backstory/. It does explain why he seems miscast or overacting in that role.
It's a pity that TH didn't claim "creative differences" and bail at that point. Instead, he'll be best known as the eye candy/T-shirt model for that film: https://decider.com/2017/11/25/kong-skull-island-on-hbo-indulge-in-the-glorious-objectification-of-tom-hiddleston/
As for giving him leading man cred, KSI just started running on HBO over here, and TV Guide (sort of the equivalent of Radio Times) listed him fourth in its cast list!
Big news - we have confirmation that the pup (HiddlesBob? BobSton?) is his: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgballardandart/permalink/602027433476714/
I do like that he asked this J.G. Ballard scholar to emphasise to her students "that he wasn’t eating his dog"!
So I step away from the board for a week and you all get busy posting!
>>334 I bought the series on iTunes planning to rewatch on a long flight earlier this year, as a lot of the episodes had been watched over dinner, in a slight rush etc. I had enjoyed it but I thought I’d give it a better chance to concentrate on it. Big mistake. It was so lumpen, and TH’s performance felt positively wooden. I didn’t make it to the end of Ep 2. I was surprised how badly it stood up to a second watch.
>>338 KSI I also bought to watch on the same trip. Didn’t make it half way through. I thought it was dreadful. Do you remember the stories about other talent (principally Michael Keaton) bailing, and TH hanging on like a limpet? I guess those rewrites might have had something to do with it.
>>332 I never much liked the Avengers movies. Film-making by numbers. Latest one looks highly derivative of a Lord of the Rings movie. Lots of CGI orc type creatures stormin a castle. Ok.
And I haven’t seen Ragnarok. I am a bad fan!
>>340 Tbh, I was very surprised when Susanne Bier won for best directing. She did a respectable job on TNM but best? I'm not sure...I did try to give TNM another chance but the whole thing felt so stiff and cliche to me. Sorry to all those who loved TNM but I couldn't get into it. Though Tom looked amazingly hot in it. No arguments there. I loved looking at the stills and short TV spots from it lol
>>335 That's what I'm wondering. Unless he's matured a bit, he probably will sign up for it even if it's a shit script. I really hope he doesn't pull an ISTL 2.0 with this.
>>344 You've answered your own question, Sosorry. He starred in two franchises, with tons of other people, and he didn't stand out. In Kong JCR was the stand out according to most critics. In Thor it was Tessa Thompson. So he wasn't responsible for that money and won't benefit directly from that box office success. The TNM splashed in the UK but barely bubbled in the US, again little benefit to him. His GG was tarnished slightly by his speech but more by the fact that every other major award went to Vance and TPvOJ (and rightly so) while TNM swept the GGs in the major acting categories; the win seemed more like an anomaly. And Hamlet...to 25 people.
I don't know where he is career wise but my goodness this is some drought.
I liked TNM. It lagged at times, was wholly improbable both in plot and details - knowing even a little about military hardware makes that shopping list he photocopies pure comedy gold - but it was entertaining. TH himself was too. There were some hammy moments and that chuckle was the stuff of nightmares, but it was a solid performance.
But the show and TH pale in comparison to other series in that season. That's the problem with it for me. There were times when I watched TPvOJ and just knew that I was watching performance/script perfection. Vance and Brown's courtroom scenes about race and Mark Fuhrman were masterful. I never had those same feelings when watching TNM, not even with Coleman's 'sports day' scene - and I'd just written a paper on the use of chemical weapons.
When the creative team talks about not doing a second series unless it is as good as the first, all I can think is, 'Could you not do a second series unless it's better than the first?'
>>340, >>344 Having re-watched KSI recently when it came on HBO (OK, I mostly had it on in the background), I found to be one of those "it's so bad I have to watch it for the unintended humor" flicks. The stilted acting, for example, is thanks to the even more stilted dialogue!
>>344 I agree about what Tom was trying to do in TNM; in the book, LeCarre calls Pine the "close observer." And that is damn hard to pull off onscreen. I think someone on this board said that maybe a Mark Rylance or Alec Guinness could have done it, but Tom isn't there yet.
>>344, >>345, >>346 I'm hoping he's talking to people like Lolita C. for advice about getting into producing. I gather Ben C. has created a fair amount of his own work by optioning a work, producing it, and casting himself. And I hope Tom stays open to doing more TV; over here at least, that's where a lot of the interesting projects are happening.
A side effect of the new puppy is that it may be easier to track when he's in London. A lot of sightings are being posted. Wonder if he's disconcerted the pup is drawing people to him, or that people are paying more attention to the pup than to its owner?
I'm a bit scared to post this but it's too good not to.
I just did a job with an old friend who worked on TR. She couldn't stand Tom. Called him a ponce. Said he constantly bragged about being the next Bond and whinged about the hot sun. Not a bad word was said about anyone else, except some erratic steroid induced mood fluctuations from the lead. I've always agreed with her opinions on people.
She even lurched into imitating his whiny voice and I cringed. I cringed hard.
Hi Anonon! Thanks for sharing. Steroid induced mood fluctuations, ha ha!
Interesting news re our friend. The party line has always been that he is delightful in every way. I wonder whether that was a line or whether the Tayto situation got to him. Also interested though not surprised re Bond - we have always known on this board he wanted it hard. Hard enough it seems not to have let the dream go even though by TR shooting I think there had been stories about Barbara Broccoli saying no way because he had made such a tit of himself.
The old posh English charm often doesn't go down well with Australians. There was a lot of head shaking and screwing up of her face with utmost displeasure. Could be Tayto induced but seemed more of a general disposition. In terms of the party line, let's just say this person hears much more than anyone else on set and most crew are very tight lipped about gossip. I am being very very bad. Hope this doesn't bite me in the arse