What does 4-ch think of the new Apple scuba goggles? Some claim the istrain will revolutionize the tech world the way the smartphone did, others think it's like those glasses google made. If it does become the next big thing, how will it effect the internet? would it become more fucked up? Will people become even colder and deatched from each other because their always hooked into social media like a heroin addict with a syringe permanently shoved up their ass.
Personally, I'm gonna say nay. It reminds me of the virtual boy, except less ugly and cumbersome and with the kind of insane price you'd expect from Apple. Just seems like a big vomit inducing motion sickness simulator. But knowing derranged Apple fans, they'll probably mortgage their homes and sell a kidney to get it anyway.
It's definitely a step forward in terms of technology. It's something I'd expect from apple. A product designed to use Apple hardware, apple APIs and software, and no 3rd party support (good luck hooking this up to steam without massive hax). There's also some of the usual apple fuckery like that 2 hour battery you strap to your balls.
The features will eventually diffuse into better and cheaper technology that's actually supported by people who matter. apple will have their $3500 walled garden of shit.
Honestly I think $3500 is too cheap for what they are offering. I would pay $7000 for it.
>>2 Typical hater, there's nothing shameful about being poor, but no need to be bitter about it!
>>4
How many did you order?
I ordered 5 to help Apple shut up these naysayers. They need our support more than ever now.
The glassholes are back!
What would compel anyone to want this? It’s a smartphone you can wear on your head. Unless you fap with both hands, it’s not worth it.
>>7
Brain damage. Which comes with the territory of being an apple cultist.
Are they not just VR goggles by Apple? I don't know or care much about them, I just thought that's what they were when I saw them for the first time. From the picture I saw, I just thought their big innovation that set them above other VR goggles is you could see through them
I can’t wait to see videos of apple cultists walking through windows or causing car crashes because the screen is now literally glued to their face. It’s like Tesla’s auto drive or whatever, except nobody’s ever going to wake up to the fact that taping a smartphone to your head is fundamentally a bad idea.
>>10
I want to see some glassholes showing exactly who they are.
>>12
Google Glass was a smashing success. It came out at the perfect time to make everyone realize we didn't need to make tech out of everything. 10/10, would not buy ever.
It's a shame because the concept was kind of cool to me. It was just very limited. If instead I could open up a web browser or an app on the glasses I'm currently wearing right now, that would be fucking neat. Like imagine if I was writing this on my glasses? I know technology wouldn't allow that because while Apple Vision can functionally do this, it relies on a lot of hardware. But imagining my glasses being able to perform certain functions what my phone can currently do as well as offer me an AR experience would be awesome. I'd feel like some sort of cyberpunk being able to sit on the train to work and scroll through my Twitter timeline and shit.
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>>4
There's something comforting in knowing that these have to bait, since the kind of person who's a hardcore Apple elitist would never venture deeper into the internet than the Apple frontpage or Facebook.
I don't get the point of the goggles. VR is already a sort of niche tech, since it's so inaccessible and limited in utilization. Apple making a VR set that's even less accessible, thansk to their shitass software wall garden policy is just mindboggling. It's a neat showcase of hardware design and algorithms, I guess, but I can't imagine a practical utility for it outside some really hardcore VRChat enthusiasts.
>>15 I think you have a shallow impression of Apple and the users of their products.
Perhaps VR will have a tipping point similar to the ones Apple catalysed with mp3 players and tablets. I think it's inevitable that VR will play a bigger part in everyday life sometime in the future, but I'm not sure if these will be the ones to change the landscape
>>16
I agree, Apple will revolutionize the digital world once again. We no longer need physical spaces. We will go to virtual shopping stores in the metaverse and then after checking out the goods will be delivered to our home. It will be the inconvenience of offline shopping, and the incovenience of online delivery. Truly remarkable.
>There's something comforting in knowing that these have to bait, since the kind of person who's a hardcore Apple elitist would never venture deeper into the internet than the Apple frontpage or Facebook.
I'm not an Apple fanboy in any regard. I honestly haven't used an Apple product (unless you count, like, putting your phone number in a person's phone when they ask you for yours) since the late 1990s when they were the standard computer system you'd find in most Canadian public schools. Yet I can tell you have a very naïve view of Apple products/users. Like yeah sure they do have a niche of products that they specifically market to normies with too much money to waste just so they can have the latest iPhone or whatever. This is mostly a result of anyone - normies or otherwise - simply being able to appreciate good industrial design. It's not like you had to be a designer to appreciate the work of Dieter Rams did for Braun last century, or to appreciate the hyper-commodified minimalism of Sony industrial design.
But there are still a ton of professionals and hobbyists that love their products. And again...while I haven't touched one in a long time...I know many who do within my field of work (architecture, art & design) and they are hardly the sort of retard normie that just lurks Facebook and stuff. Apple products fill a very specific niche in certain lines of work and that's great that they can do. And they are also a good business minded company that has been able to also capitalize on simply releasing nice looking products (that's subjective, tho...I don't really like the look of their stuff) to a mainstream audience so that they are able to earn lots of revnue/profits/etc which they can reinvest in both good products but also good design.
The whole "haha Apple sux!!! iDiotphones and stuff r bad!!!" is a lazy and ignorant point of view to take. They have contributed sooooooo much to computing history whether it's new products or promoting a good competitive and innovative atmosphere in their early days (which still persists today).
>>18
Yeah, there are serious and legitimate enthusiasts for Apple products who know what their doing and I don't fault them for choosing Apple. But we're not talking about them. We're talking about the debt saddled college student forking out thousands on an Apple laptop that sucks shit and is ridiculously overpriced but tells you it's a good buy while taking a shit on your machine. Apple are trying to be the high fashion brand of tech, the Louis Vitton or Hugo Boss of the computing world. And just like luxury fashion companies, there is a long line of impressionable retards lining up to buy their well built but insanely overpriced shit because they put it on a pedastal or want to flash their non-existent credit fuelled wealth to everyone. If I took the latest Apple macbook, change the exterior and tell an Apple faggot it's some other brand machine, they'd use it and immediately tell me how Apple products are so much better and point out a bunch of problems with it.
There is no real reason the average person should own an Apple Mactrash when they can buy a solid laptop or desktop PC. Just like there's no good reason to pay Versace $800 bucks for $200 dollar shoes. When purchasing a computer, the question should always be what am I getting this machine for? I wanna buy a C64 for nostalgia, okay fine, I wanna buy a Thinkpad for work, fine, but the Apple fag is like "oh I wanna buy because apple and is new." you are brainwashed if you think like this. Tim Cooke is laughing all the way to the bank.
Apple Vision Pro is the latest in a long line of VR/AR gimmick toys that fail to reach mass appeal because no one actually wants VR/AR in practice. They might think they do but almost everyone gets bored of it 30 minutes in. I've seen people compare the release of the Vision Pro to the release of the iPhone, saying it'll change everything, which is bullshit. The iPhone took off because you can use it to browse the internet comfortably on the go. You can't use a bulky headset on the go unless you want to look like a complete idiot.
>>20
I think VR is here to stay at least in the near future. VR games are popular especially VRchat and Beatsaber. There's lot's of improvements and innovation in the space of VR including haptics, eye tracking and selective rendering, and positional tracking technology. Examples of which have not only improved the VR experience but have leaked out into other fields as well. It's being used in various commercial and governmental training simulations for a variety of industries. I also believe that there's a large untapped market for hobbyist or game type simulators that utilize VR to it's full potential.
>The iPhone took off because you can use it to browse the internet comfortably on the go. You can't use a bulky headset on the go unless you want to look like a complete idiot.
When apple was talking about their product being "portable" they were probably talking about it in the context of an office building or something.
>>21
Didn't VRchat destroy itself by banning unauthorized mods, which were the only thing making it usable/interesting?
>VR games are popular
They really aren't.
>especially VRchat
It really isn't.
The numbers are low.
There is an incredibly high chance that VR will be very popular in the coming decades, but you're kidding yourself if you think it is currently popular outside your own bubble. For example, one entertainer with a lot of views doing something funny in a game does not make the game popular. A bunch of VCs saying it will be huge does not make it popular. People playing the game makes it popular. VR games even with tons of exposure from people who think it's cool still has a relatively low amount of players compared to several other games in genres that are considered "dead". Most likely because literally anyone can play those games on their shitbox PC all day long at no investment.
It is an untapped market as you say because the market hasn't even started yet outside of getting venture capitalists' capital. We're still 1-2 decades away from the tech becoming so good that it blows people's mind. I hate to bring up AI because 99% of the time it's irrelevant buzzword nonsense, but I also expect that improvements there will be useful in improving 3D output in video by doing all sorts of computations like accurately predicting where you're going to look next to focus selective rendering for the highest depth and quality on that area before you even look. It's gonna be decades of research and innovation for it to really become powerful, feel authentic, and cheap enough computation that billions enter into the market. Right now it's just a hobby toy in comparison to what it could be.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/677096/vr-headsets-worldwide/
34 million units total owned predicted in 2024.
Literally nothing. A drop in the ocean. Adoption and popularity would push this into several hundred millions of units owned.
>There's lot's of improvements and innovation in the space of VR including haptics, eye tracking and selective rendering, and positional tracking technology.
Maybe but almost every VR game looks like a tech demo at best and utter shovelware at worst.
>It's being used in various commercial and governmental training simulations for a variety of industries.
So still irrelevant for most users.
>I also believe that there's a large untapped market for hobbyist or game type simulators that utilize VR to it's full potential.
And that market will remain untapped because VR headsets are still prohibitively expensive for the vast majority of the world. Even in countries where most people could easily afford them, VR is not being adopted a whole lot because the asking price compared to the utility/entertainment value is still too high and will likely remain so forever.
>And that market will remain untapped because VR headsets are still prohibitively expensive for the vast majority of the world. Even in countries where most people could easily afford them, VR is not being adopted a whole lot because the asking price compared to the utility/entertainment value is still too high and will likely remain so forever.
the IBM PC was $1565 when it debuted and the price of the average PC didn't fall until 1998 or so. That didn't stop the non poors from purchasing them for their homes. Like PCs once VR is fully integrated in suitable applications, CAD, Training, Presentations, etc. It will start to trickle down and eventually drop in price enough to where even the poors can think about having one.
>It really isn't.
>The numbers are low.
it's the 65th most played game on steam at any given time. That's nothing to sneeze at.
>Looks like Apple may have been forced to make big cuts to the production numbers of its Vision Pro VR headset, due to the manufacturers having trouble with the complexity of the design. Plans to release a more affordable version of the Vision Pro are also being pushed back.
Well that's certainly one way to say " we don't want to admit it, but nobody was really all that interested and it's way too expensive so we're scaling down production in anticipation of low sales".
>>27
It could also mean the release date will pushed future back because what Apple showed the public was a bunch of slick ads for what is essentially an unfinished product. It looks like that’s what’s happened with the new CrapBook too. They’ve made a ton of promises only to realize they can’t keep them and the igoggles aren’t going to live up to the hype or the insane price tag. I mean, who would buy these? Even the most die hard brain damaged Apple fanboys have limited funds, and a bunch of them probably sold a kidney and mortgaged their home to buy the latest iPhone, MacBook and Mac Pro.
Apple fags suck cocks in hell
I fucking hate Apple's naming scheme. "Pro" isn't even prosumer, it's just got a little better specs (of course only with usb-c/thunderbolt!!).
VR may be here for good, but it's not something that'll have the same kind of mass appeal as phones regardless. Phones opened up new avenues for people to pursue during hours of their lives where they'd normally just be stuck sitting in silence and staring at the scenery. VR isn't going to gain the same adoption rate unless it's as convenient to set up (i.e. you can put it on and take it off while sitting on the bench waiting for a bus) and not be a pain to use.
Another thing, why the fuck are we still pursuing the metaverse? That seems to be the only purpose for VR goggles alongside gaming, but I think it's a ludicrous idea that somehow it'll be the next big thing. Continuing on the phones analogy, expecting people to be happy that they can spend time setting up their VR space and goggles, explore the virtual world to find a virtual store in which you do shopping like in a real store is stupid. The option alongside that is using the device you already own to just browse a storefront and do the same thing in half the time. I think the metaverse will forever remain a pipedream of the truly morbidly socially inept, since most people are happier going outside into real shops.
In general, I feel like this idea of everyone being funneled into very few places to live their life online is a retarded experiment from the 2010s that seems to be dying off. The big companies really pushing for it have taken a fair share of hits in the years during and postceding covid, and more and more people are slowly trying to move out of the internet to have their social experiences in the real world. I think Apple may be behind the times with this doohickey they're producing.
>>32 I can feel the heat from 1000 miles away
>>33 I think it will go down that route, that's what I was talking about earlier, maybe the Apple Vision isn't going to be the one to change the landscape but I think they will get more and more convenient and cheap, and have other uses besides gaming. For example I've been reading in my engineering and architecture magazines about how they're being used by remote workers to navigate inside renders of building models and stuff like that. And for me, um hehe, the only thing that's made me slightly consider getting a VR setup is the 3D porn I've heard about - that might be a bit fun but not enough to spend any money on it. And especially not if I have to get one owned by Facebook.
>places to live their life online is a retarded experiment from the 2010s that seems to be dying off
Second Life started in 2003 and I think more mainstream virtual spaces to hang out online will inevitably come in the future, when someone gets it right. I wonder if part of why Meta is a flop is because it's by facebook? If I had to pick between two evenly-matched VR services and they were identical in price, but one was by a Zuckerburg company, I know I personally would choose the other one.
I think the goggles will become more sophisticated less cumbersome, and VR will eventually become standard to the point of being built into phones.
I think the reason the metaverse has flopped so hard is because they've been trying to tie it to hardware that there's literally no reason to buy unless you're a capital G Gamer. Maybe also because the companies that have tried to get involved aren't ubiquitous (funny to say that Facebook isn't ubiquitous, but it isn't.)
Imagine Apple or Microsoft just made their own, family friendly Second Life and bundled it for free with their OSes. It would get people opening it once out of curiosity and some of those sticking with it. Kind of like how Playstation Home had a decent userbase back when it existed.
Of course like Playstation Home, even if it had users it would still earn tepid profits. No one wants to buy virtual bullshit unless it makes their dick hard.
If big tech makes something, ignore it until you see lots of people using it irl. Then and only then do you take it seriously.
Apple is a homosexual brand. It is product created for gays and sold to faggots. Apple logo is a reference to the famous homosexual Alan Turing who died choking on an Apple. He also had sex with his mother. Apple used to use the rainbow flag as part of its symbol. The rainbow flag is a known symbol of the fag. The iMac G3 came in pink which is super gay.
Reviews for the Vision Pro are finally out and its basically just an expensive toy. It can't run OS X apps so its useless for anything work related. Since its strapped to your fucking head there's no way you can share content because guess what, people like to watch stuff together which is why TV exists. So it sucks as an entertainment device. Maybe Apple can turn it around?
https://www.theverge.com/24054862/apple-vision-pro-review-vr-ar-headset-features-price
niggertier tech!
Way too expensive
Any other VR headset is better and cheaper
I don't get the appeal of VR headsets. You try it once at the store and after a while the novelty wears off. Its like that with every consumer product except this one doesn't really bring anything new to the table. Its just a cool toy.