Alright, I've been told numerous times that love is indescribable. In a worldly sense, I believe love is a false ideology, mainly because of all these nymphomaniacs, rapists, etc. I may seem pessimistic, but that is what I believe. The world is so corrupted and plagued by such primitive beings who indulge in sex and such. Those who marry for money and a great sex life, not for companionship or devoted trust to ones spouse. From a pyschological perspective, these traits defines males and females, as well as from my point of view. Males: Possesive, arrogant and chauvanistic, and at times deceptive. Females: Majority of the time deceptive; greedy. Love is but a simple fragment in this world. It holds no true value, because people fail to recognize it and act on it. They just care about themselves. Their own indulgences. I'm asexual because of these very same reasons and more. Relationships, sex, and marriage ALWAYS lead to problems, and the majority of the time, divorce ensues or maybe even death. I deny my primitive "instincts" and think out of the box instead of the "normal" individual. Why bother when one can avoid these unecessary anamolies? Lust is usually dominant. Love is underminded, thrown out. It usually about sex. I have plenty of other reasons why I do not like either gender as well. Males: AIDS, STDS, immoral, societal rejection. Females: deception, STDS. I supress my hormones. I reject their lustful manipulation. And I'm not insinuating that love does not exist, only that it's presence is but a fragment in the world, and in the hearts of humanity. This is my theory. Opinions?
Actually, despite my nihilism, Odin worship, and other assorted things....
I actually do believe in love. I believe in a human love where you meet somebody you love and you just fit well together and you are able to accomplish anything together. The thing is that you try to "fall in love" or try to love somebody then you are just setting yourself up for hardship and turmoil.
It doesn't work that way. This is how it works, you spend enough time with someone, doing things together with them, getting to know them, and enduring a lot of things together when you wake up one day and say "Damn, I actually do love this girl." You can't buy it, you can't take it, you can't force it, and you can't look for it. It finds you. You can't sit idly by either, you have to experience the world. Given that our time here is so finite, you are tasked with living as much as you can. Doing what is best for you at the time and looking forward in life. You never know how much time you have on this planet and you can't take tomorrow for granted. So all you can do is be yourself, do the best that you can in life, always try to improve yourself at every opportunity, and make sure you know what you are doing. If you don't know what you are doing, then learn. Most divorces are between people who rushed themselves or didn't really get along, but thought they did. Most male/female problems are caused because they look at each other as male and female, not as a person with an individual soul and mind.
Just relax, take your time, enjoy the sky, the trees, and the song of the birds. Read a book, fly a kite, ride a bike, or go hiking. Never lie to yourself, be realistic about all things, and enjoy what you have. And one day, in the normal course of life, after you have experienced the world enough, it will find you. And when it does, you won't have to do anything, but go with it. There will be no effort required, no work, it won't be a chore. It won't cost you any money, time, or frustration. In fact, it'll happen so fast and so powerfully that you won't even remember life before it.
Humans are animals, but not merely. So love does exist. Even animals are capable of love.
So just live your life, take every advantage and opportunity. It will happen, maybe not soon, maybe not later, but it will happen sometime. When it does, just go with it.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is probably the most positive and optimistic you will ever see me.
>>2
god, youre the hotaru guy again arent you? so many of your posts conflict with each other. dont be such a hypocryte and pick a stance already! or type in a different style or way or something and keep your anonymity! cuz it is REALLY easy to pick you out (so many of ur posts, include, ur belief of valhalla, you saying nihilism at least one, or hotaru this hotaru that) frankly, im sorry, but its a bit annoying
>>1
i believe the term is succubus. sadly, much of this is true, but i WOULD like to believe, if you get past all that stuff, and focus on the transcendent part of this so called thing called "love", then, mebbe its not that bad? then again this is just IMO
Heh. Even couples who have been together for many a year eventually break up due to some "cirumstance", so I do not think it is as simple as you may imply it to be, which is most unfortunate. Human beings are too primitive to realize their corruption, and love is the same. They indulge in it, they do not care for one another. It's usually a "sex" relationship, not an actual emotional placement. Besides, marriage/relationships spawn various problems, especially if you have someone who is irrational or deceptive, or even lustful. Love is just a deceptive tool used to weave ones web around another unsuspecting individual. That's my philosophy, and I will stay true to it until true evidence of "true" love is this forsaken world is provided.
Err..I am not this person you supposedly accuse me of. I am only a human being imposing my opinions and wishing for feedback.
>>2
sage for Objectivist serial troll. Thanks for killing the thread.
I will have you know that I happen to be a very complex and complicated person. I stand by everything I say. Like the bible where the Old Testament and the New Testament are different or something.
Anyways
Not everybody is corrupt and out to get something. You are thinking about some things too much and others not enough. I strongly suggest that you take a minute and think:
"Is everybody and asshole or am is it just me?" Whichever you decide, you are right. The best cure for this is to hang around different people or spend more time trying to better yourself. Be it physically, mentally, or spiritually.
I am really down on the world. I am extremely prejudiced, biased, and antisocial. But, even if you are like that, you shouldn't let that stop you.
Everybody in the world is an asshole, but some people are more asshole than others. And yet other people less so. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you should be whoever you are and try to realize that sometimes you cannot analyze a flower, you just have to enjoy its mere existence. There really are no answers to your questions. You can either think everyone is corrupt, and they probably are, or you can just say screw it and do whatever and just go with it.
Like >>3
He is irritated by me and his ass is probably chapped because I am very vocal of my beliefs. In fact, I would probably think that 3, yes YOU 3, is an asshole. A sorry, hemorrhoid asshole. But he's not, he's just being himself and expressing a belief that does not coincide with mine. But the thing is, is that he took a step up and tried to help you, the OP. You see, no matter how racist, prejudiced, biased, antisocial, and misanthropic you are...you have to realize that there are other people in this world who can lead you on exciting adventures and fulfilling escapades. Sometimes you have to keep your beliefs, but let them sit idly by for a while in order to do some living.
Like I said, people probably are corrupt and are assholes, but a lot of people probably aren't and you just have to give some people a chance, but don't put yourself out there too much. In fact, I hate to say it, but sometimes no matter how bad you feel or how messed up you think things are you just have to put a smile on your face and wear it the rest of the day. Try it, it works. In fact, you might even inspire other people. Sometimes you just gotta dance or sing.
In fact....I hate to say it, but actually the world isn't so bad. There's TV, nachos, CDs, dogs, monster cars, and the occasional girl who isn't a complete bitch. Don't be so serious, blunt all your edges, take each day as a new opportunity to try out a new thing.
Just don't do anything creepy or stalkery, OK?
But I was trying to help.
You know if more people listened to me, then they would prosper.
I mean...look, I'm not going to sit here and say "zoMG You gots her number lol dies !!!one1on!" or "Yeah dude you need to totally spend a hundred dollars on her"
No...I'm just being in your face and real and you have to deal with it. I didn't kill this thread, in fact, I actually believe this thread could be legendary. I think this could be the best damn thread on this board.
I think we can restore some of Ulrich's faith in humanity. I mean...look...I'm a pretty negative fellow...what with all of my beliefs. But you know, dammit, there's more to it than that.
Things aren't so bad.
I completely understand what you are talking about, but I do refer to the majority. I just believe what I see and know. Humanity is corrupt, and shall always remain that way. =\
I've told various people that I will never get married, have a relationship or have sex do to that risks and problems that come with them. It will always stay this way. I do not need a "companion". I need no one. I consider those who think they need someone in their life is just weak. Weak of heart, and gullible at that. It may seem like a streak of paranoia, but I will not be inflicted with STDS, or deceptive assaults.
Wow man....
Well are YOU corrupt? Remember among a sea of soulless faces lurk a few individuals.
And it isn't a matter of NEEDING anyone, but wanting and enjoying.
And don't listen to what other people tell you. You can do anything you want to.
You could probably live your whole life and die alone. If you wanted to. I don't think too many people want that, but if so, have at it. But if you wanted a relationship, a girlfriend, or whatever then you could easily get it. Just remember to avoid assholes, don't show your hand before it's played, and always remember Let your conscience be your guide.
Go at your own pace, because life isn't a race. It is a nice ride through the country.
Every being is inherently corrupt, but not deliberately. I am not deliberately corrupt. I also don't listen to people. I am my own philosophical being, and theorize on what I see, not from what I hear. To be alone, is to be strong. To supposedly have someone will allow weakness. I do not mind being alone. The only comfort I need are my friends and family, not some deceptive being to drag me down into the dark abyssal of despair and discontent. I may sound like a Goth, but I am not. I just reflect on these profound aspects of the world. Carl Gustav Jung, a psychologist and pupil of Sigmund Freud proposed that every being is comprised of feminine(anima) and masculine(animus) aspects. If a person is one aspect, then the other is split apart which is in another being. That is where "soul mates" come in. Seemingly logical, but also a bit absurd, I do not believe that every being is such a way.
shrug If you're happy with being alone, what more is there to say? I can't say with certainty that I'll always be this way, but I'm happy with being alone for now as well. I consider myself fortunate in that my parents truly love each other, and from the looks of things, the only 'circumstance' that will ever break them apart at any level will be when one of them dies. I've also seen relationships that were really just sex and convenience and that fell apart at the first sign of trouble. You might say I've seen the full spectrum of love and lust over the years, and I would say that hormone-crazed teenagers and the MTV culture that caters to them tend to skew the love vs. lust statistics by quite a bit, heh. But then, I tend to ignore that demographic for the most part anyway, as in my opinion they're not really all that important ;)
Heh. My parents do not even talk to each other anymore. We all live together, yet it's always my father's dad who always tears the marriage apart, that aside from his constant ignorance. Mine is just one re-enactment of what occuts in the typical household. Well, maybe not that violent.
Wow Ulrich....
I hope it works out, man. No you just have be who you are and make it happen.
What is easier?
To be alone. To have noone depend on you. To have noone connected to you with feelings/relationship. Not to depend on anyone. Not to need anyone. Not having the burden of being connected to anyone.
Or the opposite.
?
Is it easier to walk alone or having to protect someone precious?
Even Ulrich said the relationship often causes troubles.
Then it's definitely easier to be alone in our life.
Then why do people still go through that?
Are they just all dumb?
A pair of questions for you people (Secret Admirer and Ulrich). Don't get mad at me please.
-How old are you? (I'm 20. I think that like the Old Testament and the New Testament are different, some of your ideas can change in time)
-How many strong relationships you had? Roughly what percentage of them you consider good/bad at current time?
-What percentage of relations you see in your real life you consider good/bad at current time?
>>15
I feel that it's easier to be alone, but a lot more fulfilling to be together with someone. But relationships are so easy to break, the more times you lose a fulfilling relationship, the harder it is to be satisfied being alone.
Like drugs!
Of course some people are easier to be with than others. If you fall in love with a drama queen, expect a lot of unnecessary stress. That's why I'm waiting until I find a girl who hates drama as much as I do, and is 100% fun to be around, but also, if we have to, we can talk about serious business if we have to (I may have found her already!).
>>17
please forgave redundance at the end
It somehow happened that the thing that attracts me most in girls is their good attitude to me :-) A kind, open not ugly girl is fine for the start. Every bit of bitchyness (don't have dictionary installed, but I think it's the right word) is a huge turn down for me.
It's really funny I have found my love loOOong ago. I know her for more then half of my life. But she answered to my love only couple of years ago. We still are like best friends.
You will obviously say the very same things previous individuals have said. "You're too young to understand". I'm 15(16 next year) and understand perfectly. "Experience is not necessary in this case obviously. In Junior High, I was just as every other idiotic "normal" person. One who was manipulated by some things my peers were interested in, relationships. But since I grew more mature once High School came around, I came to my senses, and used my reasoning to do what was right. Simply have nothing to do with the lustful ambitious tendencies of sex and hormones. Just renounce them all, and stay morally adept instead of my primitive, instinctive peers who grew corrupt. There are four things in this world I do not believe in. Religion, government, race and love. I have studied these various categories thoroughly, and have proposed validated conclusions and reasons. As with love, corruption inevitably ensues. I detest corruption, and avoid it, such as love, as the numerous problems associated with it. I am an adolescent philosopher with a devoted intellect and prestige. I strive to avoid the wrongs of humanity, and do the right. I analyze the actions of humanity and conclude on the best course of action. I may seem a bit pyschotic, but I am perfectly stable in my mentality. I believe that humanity and it's constant corruption would better off to be erradicated, so that this world will no longer suffer, and us to shall no longer have to suffer the corruption we have dealt ourselves. I know that you think, "oh, that's human nature. It's "natural". It's only natural because humans wish to act in such a way, a corrupt and destructive way. We have wars, we indulge in pleasure, and we do as we please. Humanity should be destroyed. Logistics are also a part of the enigmatic mind.
I meant next month for age sixteen. A typical error of mine, typos.
>>20
you kids and your silly anti-everything ways
Kid. Lmao. Such a generalization. Age means nothing in referance to intellect. Age has no relevance in this case. I've thoroughly analyzed humanity. How they act, react, consciously and unconciously. I have a perfectly logical explanation for what I believe. It's written in history. Of the present and the past.
>>23 Having been your age in the past, I can honestly tell you that you do not know as much as you think you do. No 15 year old understands humanity. No 18 year old understands humanity. No 21 year old understands humanity. Come back with a doctorate and tell us about the corruption of man.
It seems like 14-16 is the general age of the "I understand everything and am superior" internet guys.
Yeah dude....
even though I'm kind of down on society, at least I realize that things aren't THAT bad.
Wow ulrich, lighten up dude.
Well, believe what you will. I do not think I am superior to anyone, because I am corrupted just as much as the entire race since I am part of it. And yes, I plan on majoring on Philosophy, Psychology and History. A degree means nothing, just one's resume. And no, any person can understand humanity. That is when you start analyzing. I've already done so. Such is my philosophical emphasis of the world, and the corrupted individuals who inhabit it.
>>26 "I've already done so."
So you've been analyzing humanity for, I'll say on a whim 2-3 years, and you think you've got it all figured out, huh? I hate to disappoint you, but really you're just going through a phase. A phase that unfortunately some people don't grow out of :|
The planet is fine, the people are fucked.
That's all you need to know, Ulrich. That is all you need to know.
Now stop being such a stick in the mud, turn that frown upside down, and go live a little.
I may, but that does not matter. What matters is what I believe. An individuals opinion...is there such harm in that? Excluding those of malicious structure.
I am not as depressed and down in the 'mud' as you may think. I am not depressed, just irritated of how humanity is. To belong to such a congregation, this race, sickens me even more. All I do is philosophize a bit. My indulging hobbie.
As for the planet, it is not so well. It's constantly being polluted and torn asunder. Wildlife and habitats are destroyed due to capitalists. Air pollution from vehicles due to gas which in turn further deteriorates the ozone layer, and ground pollution due to chemical wastes and toxins. All this because of us humans. The world is perfectly fine. Yeah, I wish. Humanity needs to be more considerate of the earth they live upon, just as the Native Americans of ages past. All people care about it money. Racketeers and capitalists.
Oh my god Ulrich. you were almost cool until you started talking like a left wing communist hippie.
As nihilistic, and whatnot as I am....damn. you got problems, yo.
Here's what you need to to do. Stop caring. Stop caring about all of these stupid things that you can do absolutely nothing about and start living a little more.
There is nothing wrong with money. It isn't evil in and of itself. It is merely a means to an end. You just have to stop trying to outthink everything and remember this:
It doesn't really matter. Nothing does. And the thing is that humans don't have to be considerate about anything.
Here is what you seriously need to do. Untighten your sphincter, get over yourself, go eat some cake, go for a walk, lay down in the grass...look at the sky.
Look at it. See it? Good. Remember...you can't do anything about it. That's the ultimate freedom in realizing that you really don't have as much of a responsibility to the world as you might think you do. So just do whatever.
>My parents do not even talk to each other anymore. We all live together, yet it's always my father's dad who always tears the marriage apart, that aside from his constant ignorance.
Well that explains a lot. So because you have shitty parents everyone is magically corrupt. Age may not mean anything in regards to intellect, but it does mean everything in respect to one's worldview. You're 15, you've read some philosophy and psychology, and you think you've analyzed humanity completely. All you have to go on is your crappy homelife so you try to rationalize it. "It's not that my parents are jerks, it's that everyone's a jerk!" Misery loves company. If everything is somehow inherent evil then your situation isn't so bad, right?
By declaring yourself asexual you're not thinking out of the box. You're trapped in the box, the prison of emotional walls in yourself created by your parent's failed relationship. Of course there's risk in any relationship. You've only experienced one of the possible bad outcomes.
You're afraid. You're terrified of ending up in a loveless sham, with so many years wasted. Yes, people get divorced. However, people also stay together for 30, 40, 50 years happily married.
But if it didn't work out for you, and it did for someone else, then that wouldn't be fair right? Not fair at all.
>>1
Read "A Certain Chemistry" by Mil Millington.
Good stuff!
Though the bit about romantics being shaked by the book is bs. I'm a romantic, yet I've been aware of the facts they mention in the book for ages. If anything, that just makes me value a good relationship built on more than just hormones even more. The last page was bloody perfect, IMO.
http://www.spikemagazine.com/0205milmillington.php - a review.
Ok, for one, I despise ANY kind of government. I'm not communist, democratic, nationalist, republic, or fascist. I'm more anarchic. I believe that human beings should be capable enough to live without a 'leadership', some corrupt government to manipulate them and brainwash them with propaganda. Humans should be able to live in harmony with one another, but no, that is technically impossible since their primitive minds focus on things such as greed and power. Such a simple race all in itself. Governments are usually led by corrupt individuals, seeking to obtain their own desires, deluding ignoring the civilians whom they swore to uphold. In my opinion, a dictatorship is more stable than democracy, since that type of government is usually more stable. A democratic government, one led by the masses, was opposed by the three sages, Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, for they knew it would lead to corruption. And, so it has. Refer to the US for that.
Well, I cannot help but think of the atrocities humanity has commited against itself and the world we inhabit. It's pitiful to observe the actions of my brethren. It's sickening.
We do not have to be considerate of anything? You are such a selfish being. That's just like someone helping another person, and not giving ones appreciation. You have to be considerate of what you live on, and how you treat the earth. Polluting it shows ones inconsideration. Earth has living organisms as well, you know. Next time you cut down a tree, be grateful of it, and the materials it provides you.
I think I'll pass. By the way, just being optimistic, being carefree only means that you deny the troubles of life. One who lives a false existence.
You highly misinterpret. It's not because of my family that I am this way, it's how humanity is. I just used them as an example. Like I said, inherent is different from being "deliberate". That's how people categorize criminals from normal, "good", people.
No, by declaring myself asexual, I dissolve the primitive tendencies of the human body, the unprecented temptation. Lust consumes the weak, and plague the individuals mind with satisfaction and pleasure.
That's very comical. I am afraid of nothing. I do not need companionship, and I definately have no compassion for anyone. Love is just a fragment. Lust is the whole. That is what drives people. Not love, lust. Love is, like I said before, a pyschological tool to manipulate someone, making them feel secure and loved, when they truly are not. Just a tool in a game. I need noone, and that may be considered "loneliness" to you, but that is truly someone who feels alone. I will not be alone, or feel such despair. Every being does not "need" someone to fill a supposed void in their soul. I'm not missing a fragment of mine, like many others seem to be.
You people are very deluded and naive of the truth. Pitiful.
>>33 "I believe that human beings should be capable enough to live without a 'leadership'"
It's useless to even think this, much less preach it to others, because it will NEVER happen. Leaders have been around since before humans. Government has been around for thousands upon thousands of years, and it will never disappear. There is nothing that can undo it. If the U.S. were to suddenly have no government or leadership, we would all be dead within months, because it's not like anyone else is going to follow suit. Government also exists to protect us. Yes, all governments become corrupt. Deal with it. Let's talk about growing wings so we can fly around too, because that is just as likely as anarchy working for even 10 seconds.
Yes, I know that. That's why it's a yes/no confrontation to me when it comes to government. But, if humanity would actually try, it would be one step closer to a Utopia, except that will never occur. As for the US, I am an american, I despise being one. Except I have no options of moving, so I'll just have to deal with it. It seems more chaotic and unstable here than any other country due to our "democratic laws". People think they can do whatever they will, because they have these freedoms that they are supposedly "rightful
to. They think that freedom is universal, but it is actually just a priviledge, one that americans constantly abuse. Maybe that's why so many countries despise us. Because we are the number one superpower and because of our "freedoms". I do not mind having freedoms, but it sickens me when numerous people, the whole nation even, abuses them to an adept consistency. Now the war is wrecking havoc here, the war of abortion rages on, and homosexuals are still being treated like subhumans due to their "sexuality". The American Dream. Ha! Yeah right.
>>35 You need to stop only focusing on the bad things.
Why should I do so? The negative aspects truly outwiegh to the positives. There are VERY few positive connotations.
Wow ulrich....no wonder you can't get laid.
Like I said, getting "laid", or sex leads to corruption. It's obvious. I deny the primitive tendencies of my hormones. People like you give in to them. True weakness.
I keep reminding myself to respond to this but I've had a pretty busy weekend... at any rate...
Ul: There's a lot of things that I could say here (and most of them are things others have said, albeit much too harshly considering), but I should point out that I agree with you on a lot of the things you've said. Corruption, division, laziness, lousy government, chaos, abuse of freedoms... we could argue on the severity or the percentages of it, but the fact remains that those things are here and they're pretty widespread. Also, to at least some extent, we should focus on the bad things. If we turn a blind eye to the self-destructing society and to our own deficiencies, we are practically giving our consent for them to continue.
Also, as I've said, if you're happy being on your own, congradulations. 'The Way of Self Reliance' is something the world needs a lot more of today. (As far as the principles Musashi put down in his last work goes, they're not perfect but I can appreciate many of them.) I think that companionship is okay as long as you're not dependent on it. After all, who doesn't enjoy sharing the good things you find in life with people you like? If you find someone with whom you don't mind spending most of your life with, enjoying life together, more power to you.
I think the reason why people are having a hard time understanding you is that they haven't seen positive things about you that they can wrap their heads around. Many people wouldn't choose a life of self-reliant completeness in solitude, so they can't quite grasp the concept of that being a positive thing, and we haven't heard you talking about how you enjoy discussing philosophy with friends, or maybe books that you like, or... well, anything. And, yes, the negatives may outweigh the positive aspects of life, but if you only focus on the negatives, they're just going to stress you out and irritate you. Of course, if you -want- to be stressed out and irritated a lot, by all means... as for me, well, I try to do right and all, and I'll speak out against corruption in the world right along side you, but "when the world is coming down on me, I let it go!" :)
Oh my god, Ulrich is an asshole
Oh my god, Ulrich is an increasingly transparent troll
Well...at least there is someone is understands my logic. No, the only reason people fail to understand, is because they could care less. They don't care about "corruption". They're like, "oh, that's a waste of time. Nerd!" And then they laugh at my theory like it's a joke. They trample it with no resolve. As for discussing Philosophy with with comrades, that's usually and occurance on the internet, mainly because my friends in real life do not care much about knowledge. They're the typical human beings that like to play videogames, watch anime, etc. I am to, but I believe knowledge is more important than anything else. It's all a human being truly needs. I haven't necessarily read any books either, just studied various Philosophers in a Philosophy book that I purchased a while ago. Already read it, but I'm letting my English teacher read it. Unsuprisingly, I'm not stressed out, although a bit angry at times. Sometimes I am angry for no reason. I guess I might be bipolar(maniac-depression). x.x
Although that only happens sometimes.
By the way, the biggest attention whore on Endless Online, Zemeckis, said, "you hate your own race? How about you start with yourself." He even said I made a cult, when I all I truly did was construct a Guild based off of Philosophy, Psychology and History. That's where my philosophical comrades come from. He, along with so many other idiotic people who flock to his side, constantly assault me due to my belief. They say I am insane, just because I said humanity would be better off dead. They're implying that I want to kill humanity myself. >.>
Surely not so. They say there is no logic is my ideals. They should go and think a bit.
But really, you can hardly be tolerant of anyone because of their corrupt nature. People who are selfish, arrogant, egomatic,cruel, shrewd, and so on. You can't trust people, because you'll probably get caught in a conspiracy of that trust with that person. Nor in a marriage. After a while, something occurs that suddenly breaks that trust, whether it be ill behaviour, family problems, or some other occurance. Humanity is just too dragged down into the abyssal. You become paranoid if someone is trying to murder you, rape you, or rob you. Insecurity fills your mind, and you may even escalate past the breaking point of insanity. It's truly pitiful...indeed it is.
As Dave Roever says,
>>41 Pervert #1
>>42 Pervert #2
That's reserved for jerks. In my opinion,
>>41 Moron #1
>>42 Moron #2
I can't stand people of this calibur. Those with no competence or kindness towards other people. The deliberately corrupt people who love to degrade others with an inferiority complex, and heigten their own status. People like this are weak and pathetic.
....lol so like Ulrich can't get laid?
More like I could care less about it. Numerous girls like me. But there was one I always liked, with a deep infatuation, since Junior High. Now, in High School, I use my logic and disdain such corruptive consistencies. You, like all of the other "normal" human beings want to get "laid". That's truly the only thing that matters in your mind. The pleasure, the satisfaction. You do not care about the actual feelings and thoughts of that individual. You just want to ravage her flesh, and take what purity she has left. Such a primitive technicality. That's you if you want to be possessive and chavaunistic. You could care less about that person anyway. Thinking, that once she has nothing left, that she is just garbage and you dispose of her by dumping her sotospeak. To be like domestic animals is sickening. Instead of surpassing the animals on this earth, we are just as they. Primitive. We have reason, but do we use it? No. We follow the id, not the ego. We follow our desires, not our hearts. We are corrupted, not pure. We are a pathetic race, not a dominant one. You people are too primitive to see the true problems. And that is how it will always be.
Ahhh... try as I might, I can't take this thread seriously...
>I haven't necessarily read any books either, just studied various Philosophers in a Philosophy book
And you are basing your observations on the world with that plus 16 years of your own personal experience and observations of one sample. Man, I was always told that if I wanted to get a Noble Prize in a science, I would need you know 20+ years of learning, countless numbers of books read. Plus to make a claim like that I would need a test thats support my hypothesis over and over again.
Boy I guess I was wrong, damn.
whoa...you are a girl? this makes things different...
I think it is best for 4-ch if we ignore Ulrich forever. Or at the very least pay him no mind on the Love & Romance board. If you don't believe in love, why the heck are you here!
....Ulrich...oh my god, do you even know what the word primitive means?
>Numerous girls like me.
I thought you were comparing other girls to yourself, not that girls LIKE you. Oops, my bad.
actually no girls like him.
Benson was cooler than this asshole is.
Hey Benson, are you there? Did it ever work out with that other girl?
Benson? Hey Ulrich, you could learn a lot from Benson, he kicks ass. In fact, I heard he got that Steyr AUG and is literally swimming in tail.
A Steyr AUG would not help Ulrich.
Ulrich is very corrupt with 15 year old "the world is corrupt" syndrome.
Please sage when you talk about Ulrich!
>>51 Yes, I constantly use that word because it applies to the majority of humanity. Primitive as in, without use of reasoning. Because if we did use logic, then we wouldn't be corrupt would we? And we wouldn't be nymphomaniacs, homosexuals, pedophiles, arrogant, egomatic, murderers and such. When I say primitive, I truly mean primitive. Like an animal, or a neanderthal.
>>53 Actually, various females do like me, but I just brush them aside. I tell them I am asexual, and they're like, "wtf is that?." Obvious reply of one who has yet to apply their intelligence. They call me homosexual because they despise my intellect. Yes, they hate "nerds". That is how devolved many people are. That is where the "primitive" aspect is derrived from. People are baised off of their beliefs, actions, appearance, race and intellect. And people hate you because you "different". Just as you people, and various others despise me for my belief. All of you think I am loathesome, because I might supposedly be a waste of time, or talk about trivial things. Well, that's why the Earth should be wiped clean of humanity once again. In the Bible Earth's inhabitants were "cleansed" so to speak, due to their corrupt nature. Then the process reoccured. And look where we are again? The same pathetic way. We are this way because people fail to realize what they do. They only care what THEY do, moral or immoral. Human beings are just a primitive, arrogant race at heart. We destroy the world we inhabit, including ourselves. Wars, famine, poverty, chaos. It's all so simple in our age.
Benson is better than me? He probably is, since you disagree with my opinion, and probably agree with his. I don't see how I am being this "asshole" you people keep accusing me of being. If I were supposedly one, then I would have been arrogant and egomatic in these rants, denouncing you all as inferior.
I took Psychology class this year, and I discussed with the group about my opinions of "love". And they did not denounce that opinion. They thought it had logical relevance, and they respected what I thought, instead of ravaging it and tearing it apart like you idiots. No matter how much I continue, all of you're stubborn minds will never understand. Human beings would rather go through instinct than logic, which leads them in a corner of immoral behavior. Pitiful.
As for you, you are making too many generalizations. Like I previously said before, age does not coincide with intellect. It has no relevance on the basis of intelligence. You're just denouncing me as some regular immature little brat who has psychological problems. Shame you can't analyze me in real life.
Ulrich, can you do us the favor and don't use the term asexual and replace it with celibate. Asexual implies that you reproduce or have sex with yourself. While celibate means you abstain from it altogether, which what sounds like what you are doing.
zOMG Ulrich keeps running his mouth.
Look dude, this thread is pretty much lost. But we have learned some things.
Ulrich has no redeeming values. He isn't even entertaining. He's like Dennis Miller only not as funny or exciting.
Benson does indeed kick ass. and Him buying that Steyr AUG was the best decision ever.
Kids who take psychology 101 know everything about the world.
This thread is worthless without nachos and cherry soda.
I win this thread and declare it over.
Only five days ago I posted >>17 and now it has come to this.
You are corrupting Love & Romance, Ulrich!!
Tsk, tsk. I'm just imposing my opinion. I've nothing to argue about like you primitive beings who focus on instinct.
Redeeming vaules eh? It's not a requirement. Nice way of degrading someone, you're a moron. I see humour as a form of ignorance, but it can be categorized as ignorance or joy. People have different opinions on that. When I see idiots joke, I see it as ignorance. Especially if they are using someone as the base of their jokes.
I only took Psychology because I was interested in the subject. I'm taking Sociology next year. One of my interests is analyzing the human mind. Analyzing what makes humanity think the thinks they do, and why they commit the actions regardless of the circumstances at times. And since this class will be on the Information Superhighway, it's obvious that my opinions will spawn the same ignorance and features that you all have bestowed upon my theory. The same illogical ones. Knowledge is all a being truly needs. Material possessions only lead to greed and attachment, and sex leads to lust, not love. Attachment to the flesh, and attachment to all things worldly shows ones weakness. If you are afraid of death, then you are weak. And if you fear divine judgment, you are weak. One should just accept their fate.
>>58 Why would I commit the same atrocities I have spoken of? I might be "corrupting" this board in one sense, because I have proven it's ideological fatality and falsity. It's up to you to decide from that point.
>sex leads to lust
no...sex leads to babies. knowledge can only travel through the human medium, no sex, no humans, no knowledge. that is the catch-22 of your philosophy. no point in arguing that like there is no point arguing with you...
On a related note, I had to quite psychology/sociology/anthropology because the opinion's of other's did not always match up with mine. That, and it was a course for the birds.
Yes, but not on the AVERAGE scale. The majority could care less about having children. It's usually about sex to impress one's peers or satisfy oneself. As I stated posts before, humanity would be better off to die and wither away into the void of nonexistence, due to their unfathomable corruption. Why should one bear a child and put the worldly burdens upon such innocence? Then, the manifestation of corruption alter such innocence into malevolence.
A course for the mind. =o I love anlyzing the human mind, so I love such classes.
Ulrich what is your problem? Are you really this much of an ass or something or what? You really are not that intelligent or insightful, in fact you sound like a real ass.
Now, everyone has there moments, but really some of the stuff you spout off at the mouth about sounds like some lame reinterpretation of the ending of Evangelion or something...
I am as antisocial as they come, I hate people, I hate the world, and I really don't like people a lot of days at all.....
However I have been known on occasion to put a smile on my face and try being chipper and friendly to people instead of just being all "whatever". That's not what life is!
Life is rock and roll, bandannas on dogs, cherry pie, going to the beach with your best girl, sitting in the cheap seats and bitching at the home team, late night skinemax, horror films, video games, and hanging out with buds....
Not all this lame shit....I mean..goddamn ulrich, get real. And this is coming from a REAL antisocial person.
I've no problem. Maybe with the arrogant civilatization that I am part of though. Oh really? You are just assuming as much. I have accumulated knowledge. One is as intelligent as one speaks to be. I know what I'm talking about. I'm not here to grovel with fictionary beliefs to get attention. I'm here to focus my opinion and get feedback. An ass...that's really comical seeing as how I'm always called a nerd and a geek by all the other idiots. You are praised by some people in this world, and scolded by others, obviously.
Reinterpretation? No, my friend. This is actual facts.
I am kind to people, when they are not ignorant and arrogant towards me. Ignorance truly is bliss in this foolish race.
>video games, and hanging out with buds....
I do plenty of that on the weekends.
Lame? This is as real as it's going to be. This all comes from simple logic. Facts. You people fail to realize this. Or are you concealed with denial? Quite possibly. "Oh, let's live our lives out and don't worrry about what befalls us". Typical.
( ﾟдﾟ) ・・・ what is love? I dunno...
（ ＾∀＾） Love is like a thread reaching 65!
Please stop feeding Ulrich with your arguements! His appetite is insatiable!
Hey I agree with some of what Ulrich is saying and some I don't. I think people use sex as a lie for love instead when its really lust, not always but it's becoming more rampent. But sex is a beautiful thing that two people can enjoy. I also believe in love, but alot of the time people get their emotions confused. Love is real though. When people hear the word love they think of a man and a women, love is international; wether it is between different genders, races, ages, and any other factor. I also think that if your in one bad situation(like what u said about your parents, Ulrich) it should not make you think that love is not real and that sex is evil. If 2 people truly love each other, sex should not matter. But eventually it will, but that another story. Well love to all and STAY STRONG ULRICH, lol.
you remind me of myself at your age. I could go scan or transcribe my MANY MANY journals where i ranted, about how corrupt people are and whatnot and how intelligent I was and how cruel it was that the few intelligent people in the world get crushed by the corruption etc, if i really wanted to prove it . But.. but then i grew up.
I had some long tirade here.. but i changed it. Just lighten up, things arent as bad as they seem. Mommy and Daddy might not have gotten along all that great and im sure all the kids in highschool and college are promiscuous stupid bastards as usual, (thats why they're kids, not adults, they lack experience) but the world is essentially okay. If it wasnt, we'd be dead already :D
>>68, be careful what you say. Growing up does not exist! Age is meaningless! Experience has nothing to do with it!
The behavior of my parents do not make me think the way I do. It is how the inhabitants of this world act. I know sex does not matter in a TRUE relationship. That is for those that desire only companionship, not intimacy.
I know it is not as bad as it appears, but bad is still bad nonetheless. It's corrupt ENOUGH for me to think the way I do.
So your saying their is such thing is a true relationship with love and companionship?
If so your contridicting your own opinion, and thats not too smart. I personally think that your begining to come around a bit in your opinions. You say that love doesnt exsist, yet you say "I know sex does not matter in a TRUE relationship. That is for those that desire only companionship, not intimacy.". Has anything in your personally life changed Ulrich? Or are you still your cold, unlove self?
I suggest you read my first post to this topic. I said that love is not nonexistent, but only a fragment in this world. "Love" is a rare case. Love does exist, but it is rare. Like I said, it's usually just used as a tool for the lustful ambitions of others. Yes, sex does not matter in a true relationship, or one that many describe as true love. In a true sense of love, which some believe, companionship, having someone to be close to, is the true form. Yet, sex is entirely involved the majority of the time. My opinion may seem a bit contradictory, since I know both the negative and positive aspects of love. Most of which being negative, obviously. When I have an opinion, it's usually a yes-no opinion, like Religion and government. Like I believe that anarchy should be enacted, human beings should be capable of leading themselves living in harmony. But primal instinct strays humanity from this path. That is why we need government for enacting the law, and disdaining chaos, yet a democracy still leads to it, as well as any other government. Ergo, the yes-no opinion. But when it comes to "love", I am on an entirely different scale. Yes, I believe that love is realistic, but it is only a fragment in this world. A simple ideology. Evidently, it usually disdains from this "true" path and hurls down the one of corruption. Lust, chauvinism, hatred, death, and despair. This is what it truly leads to. And no, my life has not changed. I still as you say, "cold", and disdainful of a so-called love. Human beings use their instinct when it comes to "love", not their reason. That's why there are all these nymphomaniacs running rampant. Those, that devolve into the most disgusting and intolerable beings. The rapists, pedophiles and sadists(sexual torture). The beings society deems unworthy of life or mercy. This devolution occurs through "lust", or through a scientific perspective, imbalanced chemicals I suppose.
get a life u stupid dweebz
the only reason u talk about love is tht u have none
Ok, I got ya point, but i think you are getting lust and love confused. Love doesn't lead to all the crap you think it does. If u had paid any attention in Psychology, you would have found that people who rape kids have a problem where they feel they can't be sexual with someone their age, so they go and rape childern. So please, get facts before u run your lips about how love sucks. And I personally agree with a**hole. Your unloved and u know it and it buggs the piss out of ya. Find a girl/guy who excepts you for you. And please dont give me this BS about not liking either sex. You either like boobs or no boobs, your choice. I personally believe that no one where you live finds u attractive. They make fun of you super bad and have hurt you. I'm not saying thats right but thats no reason for u to give up on love. Why don't u look for it, you might find it.
>>74 Alright, moron. Stop being a troll.
I'm not getting the two confused. I completely know the difference between the two.
>> people who rape kids have a problem where they feel they can't be sexual with someone their age, so they go and rape childern.
That's evident. I am analytic after all. But they know what they are doing is immoral. People with those "mental problems" should realize such atrocitious things and disdain them. It's disgusting and highly intolerable. SO what if you think you can't have "sex" with someone your own age? That is entirely your fault. Corrupting the young? Wtf? That is disgusting. Taking what bit of innocence that have left. Yes, I am unloved because I do not care about a "companion". I need noone. This is very comical. You highly misinterpret the situation at hand. "Love", this fragment, does not bother me. I see most women as deceptive and lustful. There are few "decent" females. I do not care about sex, because it is a primitive tendency that sends one on the verge of lust. Then idiots are like, "I want more sex!". How pathetic. They care only for their own pleasure, and nothing of their so called spouse or "girlfriend/boyfriend". It should be called a "whorefriend" instead, because all males and females do is cheat on one another and conspire against each other. The same is with a marriage. Trust is broken. Abuse may ensue and constant arguements. Death may even occur at the breaking point. I see no reason to "love" someone if you can't trust them for that fact. All people truly care about is money, and their own pleasure. Nothing else. Sex, sex, sex. That's all I ever hear. Love is nothing. The people who "supposedly" love you, lie, cheat, and conspire against you. And may even steal because you are "rich". The only thing that annoys me are the constant nymphomaniacs, as well as the idiots who are manipulated to the fact that they think someone "cares" for them and "love" them. That's a load of BS. Love is just a tool to manipulate someone and then tear them asunder. The "primitive" people, who indulge in nothing but sex, despite lust. I wish not to be of a congregation, or this race forthatmatter, dealing with sex. People are manipulated by their hormones and nothing more. Like domestic animals in an orgy. That's technically what I describe them. Where I live? You might as well say what school I go to since I live in a VERY small rural neighborhood, with basically noone. Just little kids. Really, I could care less about what the idiots at my school think. They are incompetent, arrogant, subhumans sotospeak. We have your gangster wannabes, drug users, nymphomaniacs, and basic idiots, which is the majority of the populace anyway. I could care less what primitive trash say to me. They constantly call me gay, a nerd, and a geek. I could care less. If I wanted to, I would massacre them. I'm not foolish, so I'll let their slurs slide. I hate ignorant people. Those who deliberately act in such a way sicken me. They could never hurt my "feelings". I've been emotionless ever since I left middle school. Ignorance does not hurt me. It just hurts them. Their "image". People like that would be better off dead. Looking is pointless. I need no companion. I have friends and family to fill that. I'm not "lonely" anyway. I wouldn't mind living alone. I'm not letting despair engulf me anyway. I stay away from such risks and haphazards.
I generally find that people who say they aren't lonely, actually are. If they weren't, they most likely wouldn't come into situations where they would need to say so.
Not really much I can say that I haven't said already. Ul, you've made your point, but it seems that people either aren't going to understand, or aren't going to agree with you. As I've said, I agree with some of your general principles, though I disagree about the scope or extent of some of your views of the world. The fact is though, many people don't feel that way.
The corrupt ones will keep on being corrupt because it's what they desire. The ones who want true love will keep trying for it. Maybe that love will corrupt and fade, maybe not. For them, the reward is worth the attempt even if it ends in failure. That's just the way things are.
Actually, I am truly not lonely. I care not about anyone, and truly never will. =\ Like I said, all I need are my friends and family. I've no "void" in my soul like so many others so to speak. I'm in a situation in which I "think", not out of desperation. I just wanted opinions of the matter. Just to forward what I think and recieve feedback. I'm quite satisfied, even though some people did not provide enough information as to why they thought what they thought.
Oh well. Abstinence is what I practice. Besides, "love" will do you more harm than good in the end. Leaving you a broken person filled with despair. I do not wish to go through such tragedy. I do not want to have the "experience" of such a problematic and shocking end result as others have. It's never a crime to philosophize though, even if things never are altered. ;D
I guess this thread is pretty much through. =\
was through about 78 posts ago. gtfo.
Cease with the idiocy.
durka durka durka
This thread has quite an interesting topic and also some serious contributors, although frequently quite vehement in nature. Unfortunately that last quality does not seem to do the quality of this thread much good. I'd like to pose my view on love, and how I think about human relationships and the value of them.
Most humans like to spend time with other humans. Depending on personalities, the intensity of enjoying each others presence varies and could easily be negative. Prolongued contact develops trust or at least understanding of the other's way of thinking and people may learn more about their own character and follies as they spend time together.
I believe that love is simply a strong mutual understanding of each other, which is valued greater than the costs of having to live with the things you dislike or even hate in your partner.
Note that such a definition leaves open homosexual relationships and polygamy. Of those I have no noteable opinion yet.
Most importantly though, under this definition, love is not dead, nor corrupt. Corruption entails only when love is replaced by lust. However, those two are closely linked and the one may easily result from the other.
In other words, there is much to be gained from friendship and love, which is strength, for true friends and true lovers will identify and remove or reduce weaknesses in each other. To some members of this thread this may sound preposterous, but I would like to pose now that from this perspective, love stands at least as tall as logic when it comes to develop strength. This must be true because logic is inherent to love (understanding each other). But love (in the current definition which includes mutuality) involves two spectators per person, whereas a man trusting on logic in solitude is the only spectator to himself.
It must be clear that the difference in involved spectators will influence the accuracy of analysis, so a loving couple has the edge over the solitary man when it comes to improving themselves.
>>85 Very accurate and precise. Precisely what I think. Except, it usually starts off as lust, rather than love anyway. True love is VERY rare. Half of relationships become divorced/seperated or are together and madness still ensues because one will not leave. Trust is usually never fortified between two people, because gossip and lies break them apart, and they two begin to conspire and become paranoid of one another. Trust is one thing in this world that can never truly come to fruition. One is actually better off trusting no one in this world, because chaos will ensue if you do. You will end up being betrayed, pilaged or death may ensue because of this "trust". As for the solitary individual, that's not always the case. Single individuals may have friends or family instead of not having a spouse. They too, can improve equally or more efficiently than those with someone. And, as I said before in previous posts, Lust is the whole, and love is the fragment. Love is usually just a tool, ergo, in the real world lust dominates it because people follow their primitive instincts, disdaining the use of their mind, or logic. Like domestic animals, the regular human being racing towards another with the true intention of self gratification and sexual indulgence. I talked to two males yesterday, and specifically told them the problems associated with such a matter. One completely understood what I was talking about, and knew how it was. The other, however, was the typical, "wtf, you're crazy". I said, "so, you will have sex with a female and leave her when you are finished? He said yes with a very positive response. That shows the primitive aspects of the typical human ratio. They don't care about others, just themselves. That's where all these whores, pedophiles, rapists and just pure nymphomaniacs of any calibur surface. And no one cares in the end. Such a pitiful existence in a pitiful world. People call me insane, but just as the philosophers of old did not sway from their beliefs, I shall not sway from mine. My "logic".
It took me a while after hearing about this site, but I got here, thank goodness for research! Ummmm...I guess what I think is that yes love is real but people confuse it with alot of other shit and then comes the lust and the babies. I don't think its as dark and full of despair as Ulrich says it is, but that just me. I personally think once Ulrich meets the right person, he'll understand how love really feels. Love isnt just a fakie mushy gushy emotion. Love is a very powerful emotion. When you can't stop thinking about a certain person, when you want to connect with them so badly, when you want to be around them and when they are you never want it to end and try to do anything to be with them. Not because wanting sex, but rather because of the most complete and peaceful feeling you have ever had. Using myself as an example, I feel all those feelings about my BF. I know Ulrich will think thats stupid, but its true. And we didn't me because of lust and sex, we've been friends since he was in 3rd and I was in 4th. We dont have sex and we really don't care about that. I'm not trying to say that we have the perfect love, I'm just saying love exsists. Well yall I g2g, research calls, I hope we've all learned something from Ulrich's thread. I bid u ado and hope u all realize that love is real and not as scarce as it seems.
Heh. That's the thing. Love "is" just a simple emotion. An emotion brought on by chemical reactions in the body. Stimulation for pleasure and bonding. Oxtocins in the body fill a person with passion and bonding of another. Sooner or later that passion and bond ends due to decrease of Oxytocin. Love is truly nothing, just a simple reaction. A primitive reaction that intices one to lust, or "love". Love doesn't last either. It corrudes just as the body does, and becomes nonexistent. Once that "feeling" and attachment fades away, couples have problems.
Well with all the scienc shit aside, love is real. Ulrich, don't get upset when I say this, but I think you have loved someone, but u got your heart broken. Thats why I think you don't believe in love along with other circumstances. This is friend to friend, bud. I wish I could help you realize this, but theres not much I can say. I'll just leave with this comment. Love finds you, no matter how strong of a loner you think you are and when you refuse love, it will continue to bug you until you realize how much of an important feeling it is. Maybe no one has ever shown you love before, but one day someone will.
According to my knowledge, emotions and the machine which is the body mutually affect each other. People smelling 'attractive' pheromones of each other will feel better. Likewise, people who worry a lot will get real headaches. That being so, the psychological side of love can be both nourished or harmed by the physiological components entering a relation.
In my opinion there is no rule that says in the end psychological love must die because lust falters as time passes. It is true that love relationships change over time, but that is only natural. At some point the mating drive between a couple reduces to a lower level, because it is time to concentrate on other things (i.e. acareer or kids) Only the shortsighted will interpret this change as the end of love. When they do not learn fast, they will indeed break up, perhaps violently.
Let us not confuse the mistakes of an insufficiently informed group as the behaviour of a whole population. If you accept that love is a form of trust and appreciation, then there is no reason for that to end unless that trust is broken, or the grounds for appreciation are lost. Lust, however, plays no role in trust, and cannot be causal to its loss. Since appreciation frequently involves an admiration of the partners' body, it can be diminished with the removal of lust. Other aspects of a human can still be appreciated though, such as the very nature of the partner.
To conclude my point, lust is not the only - or perhaps not even the main - drive of love. Lust will fail over time but that does not spell the end for love. Many people divorce or break apart because they view the end of lust as the end of love. But why don't you start looking at older relationships? Stable ones? Those do exist, plenty of them in fact. Do they not love each other anymore? What would they say?
Do you truly know of no elderly people that still love each other?
>Oxtocins in the body fill a person with passion and bonding of another.
That's lust, not love. You really have the two confused.
Explain how some couples survive 40+ years if by your theory no love can last.
ok, love is not a science. It is an emotion. For that matter you could say that you leak from your tear ducts when your sad. Love is an emotion plain and true. Like secret admirer said, I know people who have been together for 53 years and they have loved each more than people would believe. They even (sadly) died together in a car crash. Love bonds people and makes them realize that life is worth living and that someone out there cares for you so much, you just might not realize it. This science of love is true, but irrelevent. So what there are hormones. There are also hormones when a woman is pregnant or when someone goes through puberty, that doesnt mean these things are not important or unreal. I think Ulrich and Demian need to realize there is someone who loves them, they just may not see it.
Dear PMS. I think we actually think the same about love. Please read posts carefully before you comment on them. It will save a lot of time in this discussion, or at least for those seriously participating in it.
screw you
I came here because a friend told me about it and asked me to come here.
>>89 Pm's, you know not what you speak of. I have never "loved" any being. I have however been infatuated once, but that was the result of my primordial instincts. No one can break my heart. I've no emotions to break. =) Love is just a bullshit ideology that is used as a form of manipulation the majority of the time. That's how it usually is.
>>90 Trust is one thing that never lasts, not even between regular people. "Friends" can't even trust one another sometimes due to problems. Why trust someone you can truly never analyze? The only person that ever truly knows everything about someone are themselves. Trust eventually corrodes, even in a true relationship. It's just used to manipulate people and give one a false sense of security.
>>Let us not confuse the mistakes of an insufficiently informed group as the behaviour of a whole population.
More like almost the entire population. That is how the majority are, not the minority.
No, I do not.
Negative on that. I idolize no one.
No, that is the temptation, the pure instinct of every being. Chemicals control lust just as love. Yes, they are both essentially the same.
Like I said, a balance of Oxytocin levels keep a relationship in tact.
>>ok, love is not a science. It is an emotion.
You just contradicted yourself. Emotions are affiliated with Science, so, therefore, "Love" is essentially a part of Science as well, since it is an emotion.
Do you trust your friends at school? If so, your contridicting yourself and I bet their feelings would be hurt. If not then you are lying to them by calling them your friends.
I never said you could not trust someone. I was just stating that it's better not to trust anyone so that you will not be misfortunate. I've many friends, but I only trust one particular person, because I know him inside out. He is devoid of malice, and is a great friend.
Never being able to trust anyone sounds pretty damn misfortunate to me.