Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
>>749 Yeah I think so too. You think he's been given a full assessment of the public and media's reaction to him and Taylor and Taylor's crash and burn? Or he's going by the ugly tweets he got?
>>751 Hopefully not everyone who works for him is a sad sycophant. They'd BETTER be reaching into his thick skull and showing him how this has affected him.
>>751 There's no way his team hasn't alerted him to the mess his fandom is in regardless of whether he's seen tweets. Not to mention mainstream press going for his jugular. Signing up for NerdHQ is desperate- he wouldn't have needed or chosen to do this pre- Swiftmas.
I still find it odd and contradictory that TayTo have made such a push leading up to CC. The haters are really hating now.
Just noticed we're losing another favorite blogger- wthanon4u.
I still can't believe this board has remained Swiftie free.
It's a miracle and I will foil cave prayer circle for it to remain so for as long as I can stand talking about TH.
My fuse is getting short, however.
I'm on the verge of voluntarily walking the plank of his ship.
>>753 I posted earlier that I feel like this weekend, I'm walking down the road to a goodbye after SDCC and remain so unless he changes his association with the Drama Queen of 2016. My lust for his body and his decent acting jobs will remain.
>>752 Hope so. He did look pretty angry in those agent office pics but he was arriving there so it might just be Fri LA traffic angst.
>>753 I think the fans at SDCC will be kind to him. They're probably the ones who quietly support him no matter what (as they write fanfic about him falling madly in love with them)
I can't figure out whose call it was to keep pushing TayTo til SDCC. Since his face is covered in the pap shots and we see her front and center with her sponsored LV bag and grinning, I'd say she's calling all the shots on when where and what. And he's fine with it because it's what he signed up for and he keeps just once, one of these pap strolls will finally do the trick and the media and public will gush and adore.
>>754 It's probably because we've all realised his talk is cheap
Might be for the best if we all stop listening to him but I will definitely be here to sneer and chortle over every insincere word this weekend while I blame him for my hangover
>>750 last time I checked he was in 2 companies in the UK, on for his house, one a production company in London. This one created in July is interesting. Does he really need another production company for taxes purposes? Wouldn't one be enough?
>>757 He needs somewhere to stash the millions TS is paying him to be her "boyfriend."
>>758 And he keeps them in England?! Really all that money spent for his education was for nothing hahaha
Yes, he still has the other prduction company
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/1hAJ8CPPkQCCNGQ9JLY94yWSIhs/appointments
He surely is nervous about NerdHQ, especially because 3 years ago the tickets for his conversation went sold out in a matter of second!
Now, 2 days after they went on sale both events aren't even sold out
http://registration.thenerdmachine.com/conversation-schedule
>>760 Both Hiddleston events are showing sold out for me. I read the tickets went quickly this year too - people on Twitter were complaining that they were refreshing the page waiting for them to go on sale and still weren't able to get any.
>>745 A few lawyerly thoughts on the new company.
The one he shares with HBC has to do with his home. Basically you can have a building, or in his case a compound, where the owners each have a long lease of their apartment, but also have a share in the company which owns the freehold. The company will make decisions about work to common areas such as the roof. It is not identical to a co-op in terms of legal structure but that is the nearest equivalent and it serves the same basic purpose.
The one we linked to previously is a tax efficiency company. It had over £300k of assets which says to me Marvel etc pays that company for his services and the company then pays him a dividend. As a company can decide when to pay a dividend he can smooth his income across several tax years which is more efficient.
All his tax needs would be dealt with by that company, so my guess is that the new company is an actual production company. This is supported by the identity of the other director and shareholder, which is a company that is in turn owned by two other guys, one of whom is a director of what looks like a TV production company. There is also no tax benefit (and an active disadvantage!) to distributing your income through a company that has another shareholder, because if you pay yourself a dividend the other guy has to get one too! So my guess is that he is looking outside acting with this new company.
>>761 Oh yes, it is sold out on the ticket website. I was going by the nerdmachine schedule page where it doesn't show the sold out.
>>759 Thanks Couch - I just reminded myself by looking. This company has one shareholder (TH) and one director (TH) and £380k of assets. That is the classic tax efficiency structure. You don't want anyone else to share or control the loot!
>>762 thank you, I was counting on you for the legal aspect. I read at CB it could have to do with the South Sudan documentary he mentioned what feels like ages ago since the people involved with Appeal films have worked with UNICEF before.
>>762 Thanks Anon, he did seem to love producing TNM, I imagine that's where he's headed with this.
With the suspect timing are we all tinfoiling that the company his 'payment' for tanking his career for TS? It would explain all his compliancy in the pap walks, public pda and dragging his family through the press. Sort of, but not really.
Is he with her for love or money?
>>766 love for money? The idea of him loving such a despicable creature is yuck.
>>767 I would very much like to be excluded from that narrative
>>766 The new company has assets of £2....so it's not likely to be a "reward". I also think it is very unlikely she would pay him some vast sum and then not retain control, either as a director or shareholder.
The other consideration is that doing this stuff takes time. You have to decide to set the company up, agree with the other director that they will be involved, attend a solicitor, get the papers sorted, attend again for signing. It can be done very quickly, don't get me wrong, but it usually isn't if there is no need. What I am saying is that its emergence on 1 July is probably coincidental and the result of a much longer planning period.
Appeal Films was incorporated in January 14. However there was a brief flurry of activity from it about 9 weeks ago. It set up an Instagram and posted 1 pic of I guess the 2 guys who are its directors: https://www.instagram.com/p/BFZ1ytRyN9n/
If you want a date as to when AF agreed to go into a joint venture with TH via Heath Films, my educated guess is 9 weeks ago.
>>770 did you AF's twitter user pic? A photo of TH in South Sudan.
>>770 Notice the UNICEF building featured in the backdrop of the Instagram picture.
I was right - photo probably taken on 31.12.15 - https://twitter.
com/npaslondon/status/682650420402106368
Someone pointed out that TS broke her iPhone screen. Throwing it at the wall when the Kimye story came out?!
>>775 Throwing it at TH after he messed up his interview quote?
>>776 I mean, I'm kidding. I bloody hope that's not the cause.
>>778 I hope not too.
I feel strangely weary of all this.
I am weary of watching someone I followed for being non-Hollywood, intellectual and interesting, earnest and unvarnished, morph in front of my eyes into someone who is not only thoroughly calculating and Hollywood, but who seems to be aiming for the Kardashian, In Touch Weekly end of the market.
I am also weary of wondering whether I am one of the "bad fans" or "haters" because I dare to express scepticism about how this relationship (which I believe to be a genuine one) has been packaged and presented to the press. Or because, on the basis of quite a lot of information, I have concluded that Taylor Swift is repellant on both a personal and professional level.
>>779 I tend towards the thought that, at least by this point, there is no "real" relationship going on. However, I wholeheartedly agree with your opinion of Taylor Swift, and this is what brings me to my problem with Tom: regardless of the relationship's realness, somewhere in Tom's mind he thought publicly linking himself up with her was a good idea. Spoiler alert: it wasn't. It was the most horrible idea ever. Bad Tom.
Worst case scenario, he has legitimate feelings for terrible person. I've believed she was a terrible person since long before she and Tom ever crossed paths, and the more that comes to light about her the more there is to dislike. Many people have already put together substantial, indisputable evidence of her being abhorrent on all levels. So, Tom truly liking her in any way and acting on his feelings is an indication that he too must be an awful person.
In what I suppose would be the best case scenario, Tom is a fool and believed that engaging in a showmance with Taylor Swift was a smart career move. Perhaps he took some poor advice from someone he clearly shouldn't be trusting. Perhaps he was deceived by her persona and was simply enchanted by the promise of greater fame and fortune. Either way, he didn't do his research properly before getting involved with her, which shows a tremendous lack of judgment.
In any case, I'm left with a highly negative opinion of him.
>>779 that's why, against all odds, I wished for this to be some sort of documentary video.
Anyone who says you are a bad fan or hater is full of shit. After all, if you were to apply the same info you on two people who are not famous, wouldn't your inference be the same?
I prefer a Tom inlove with a brainless blonde pole than a Tom capable of anything for a little publicity.
>>781 Yes anonsy, that's pretty much my thinking too. He chose all of this.
I only add that even if he didn't do his research properly at first, by now he must have, if not because he involved his family, the fact that he still doesn't want to walk away says a lot. And people should stop saying that he would look bad if he did, nobody has ever looked bad for walking away from bad people.
>>784 I agree, everyone knows what she is now, with the exception of delusional Swift worshipers. Your last point brings me back to my two scenarios - either he doesn't want to walk away (he's an awful person), or he contractually can't walk away (he's a fool).
Maybe he'll surprise us all and bail soon. There's a part of me that still wants him to get some sense knocked into his head and straighten all this out, and I don't think it's impossible. My personal feelings about him will never be the same, though.
>>785 TBH I didn't know anything really about her till this, just that she was a pop star and incredibly successful. I had no idea about the bad stuff because although it is there until recently it was not getting much traction in the headlines.
I can imagine him not doing any "research" on the internet before he met her. He is a celebrity and he has said he thinks it is weird meeting people and they already know everything about you. He might also think, as a celebrity who sees himself represented in a certain way, that you can't believe anything you read. So why not just take her as he finds her when hey meet, with no preconceived ideas?
Then they get together and at some point the Kimye stuff comes up. Maybe before RI - or maybe she kept that little helpful coincidence quiet when she suggested they "get it out there". Anyway, she tells him her version, and he probably believes it. He's in love/lust and she probably tells him something close enough to to the truth to make it vaguely convicting. He is only going to realise it is a lie if he goes back and compares the original statement with the snapchat, and he probably didn't do that. I bet he has also deliberately not read any think pieces saying she is a liar, manipulative, playing to racial stereotypes etc. I am sure someone has told him that it hasn't played well, but there is a big difference between reading it all yourself, and being told about it, probably by a somewhat sycophantic person who also wants to move forward and focus on the positive. Also Luke is in the UK so TH may be getting any PR advice from her people and they are hardly going to tell him how bad it is.
So I can well see that he remains insulated from it to a considerable degree. He is I am sure telling himself what people always say when all their friends hate a new partner: "I go by what I see of my partner. I judge on how they are with me. I don't listen to idle gossip." My feeling is it will take a while for him to learn for himself what she is like. He may never fully do so. I reckon that what will kill it off in the end will be one of three things: constant bodyguards, publicity, lack of privacy stuff; or having to hang around with a bunch of thick 25 year old models, talk endlessly about cats etc; or scheduling - when she is on tour and he is filming. I don't think he will have a moment when he realises she is a horrible person, because who wants to think they were fooled into dating someone horrible?
I can't decide if it's real or not. I was so certain that it was, and then it got weird. Really weird. When they realized some of the general public and a good number of journalists were questioning it, they just seemed so determined to make it look 'real' and give it legitimacy in the public eye. People falling in love, people in a real relationship, even those in the public eye and using said relationship for publicity, shouldn't have to 'do couple stuff' to legitimize their relationship - it should be obvious. They could have just shown up together and looked like people in a relationship do: together, happy, comfortable. Instead everything was rom-com OTT and seemingly done before planted paps: we hold hands, we kiss in the sunshine, I meet your family, we hold hands some more, we BBQ on a national holiday.
And the timing now is clearly suspect. The RI pics to distract from Kim's GQ article. The trip to Oz to get away from the US in prep for 'THE Receipts.'
I just don't know. And I don't care at this point because real or not, it doesn't speak highly of him. Perhaps he doesn't know the extent of her lying and manipulative ways, perhaps he is really smitten. But then he's in love with someone - and is someone himself - who wanted to publicize their 'first date,' wanted to drag his family into the public gaze, wanted to make public all the lovely first moments in a relationship that should be private. Their first romantic foreign getaway was 2-3 days long. It was shared with professional paps (her agency of choice) and 3 body guards. Real or not, that just makes them sound like soulless famewhores. So he's either in love with a famewhore (real) or is happy to have a business arrangement with a famewhore because he is one himself. Six and one half-dozen of another.
In the modern parlance of parents raising Millennials: I'm not angry, Thomas, I'm just disappointed. (Side note: Husband and I have decided to never say this to our child. We had parents that got angry, so we've decided to be 'get angry parents' as well. We think this approach will either create a 'normal' child like ourselves, or a serial killer. We're willing to go with this plan because we'd rather raise a serial killer than a Millennial.)
Thought I'd submit my essay as well. However, all said, I like M's very concise take on it >>783.
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/3982/1370/original.jpg
Seems Miss Crazy Intelligent and others have made an appearance in Dlisted's latest Tayto article. No surprise that they were introduced with this comment: 'Oh my Lord, the delusion...'
>>788 Yes, no matter how you spin it the result isn't very good. (hahah, Anon. I think you and your husband reached a sound decision)
>>789 You got to admire the courage...Nah I give them too much credit, it's just blind stupidity.
Or, maybe they are feeling competitive, the Hiddlestoners, more stoned than ever, out en masse to prove that they are more loyal and supportive than the Swifties and to achieve that they are blatantly ignoring all facts (case in point the latest CB's threads where the usual group of apologist uses logic fallacies and then compliment themselves on their sound logic while shading the other posters for not being so clever; they deserve TS as gf for TH)
Maybe you guys already knew this, I didn't.
The streaming of Hall H panels isn't live. They put up things later but streamed through the Comic-Con HQ app.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/san-diego-comic-con-will-finally-stream-its-hall-h-pane-1770715159
I also read that the registration to this app is free, but they will still ask you your credit card to later be charged according to your subscription.
http://heavy.com/entertainment/2016/07/comic-con-streaming-2016-how-to-use-the-sdcc-app-hq-hall-h-san-diego-book-convention/
this is the link to nerdhq youtube page
https://www.youtube.com/user/NerdMachineTV/videos
Please like me. Please don't boo me in Hall H: https://twitter
.com/twhiddleston/status/756893507193679874
>>794 Is he tweeting again?!
This one isn't as awschucks..3 mil..my ramblings as the last one but perhaps it signals a plan. Do we think he'll really pump out the tweets - personal (but obvs not about TS) and lighthearted - during CC?
>>795 This is his MO, isn't it. My image has been tarnished...time for SOCIAL MEDIA!!!!!! All the selfies, all the tweets, all the Facebook posts.
you can follow a live blog of WB panel here
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/705143-warner-bros-pictures-comic-con-panel#/slide/1
>>791 Sometimes it seems like Crazy Intelligent has a vested interested in believing the love story.
>>800 I get the impression that she is tumblr's lilacflowers. She mostly has a vested interest in showing that she is more clever than anyone else, bossing everybody about as to what to think, and trying to show she doesn't follow the herd.
>>801 'Awshucks, I'm just different, I'm an outsider, I'm special, and brilliant. People should listen to me, take notes and follow after me.'
Bet she has a lot of non-tumblr friends. Does she even have tumblr friends?
Who's lilacflowers? Is that Crazy Question girl?
>>799 Thank you. This may be my route. It will be easier to read about any madness than watch it - live or taped.
>>802 No, lilacflowers is Celebitchy's veranda woman. She is the one who screamed "they said they weren't dating so THEY'RE NOT DATING, OK" a lot about THEO. She is slowly unraveling now that he has an acknowledged GF: on the one hand she wants to stick the knife into TS, but on the other she knows that doesn't jive with her "I stand above it all" persona. She is tying herself in knots so that TH isn't complicit in any pap strolls. No. The paps would give their collective right testicle for these shots so they follow them everywhere.
>>803 Veranda woman!! For the short time I read CB, that woman and her damn veranda tap danced on my last nerve every.single.day. She thought she was being cute and the welcoming doyenne of the site but was in fact no more than an annoyance to be ignored and scrolled past.
Eye roll. Yes, let's blame the paps so Tayto are allowed to remain clean and innocent babes caught in the vicious net of the media.
Happy relaxed body language everyone! https://www.instagram.com/p/BINryo_A3Pn/
>>805 Oh my. Maybe JVR showed him those tweets he's been favoriting about Taylor stealing other people's work.
>>805 Shit. The classic defensive pose. I will not feel sorry for him. I WILL NOT.
Caption for both of them: "Imma set fire to that stupid beard."
>>756>>779>>781>>787>>788 To sum it all up, now that the HF company has come to light, I think it is a relationship of multiple conveniences, including sex (in whatever form and frequency that takes), and then, between continent hopping, became too caught up her glow to notice the scope of her drama, even though he was part of it and could not stop long enough to look at the blow-by-blow out there on the internet. Even if friends were emailing summaries with long pleas to step back, when was he going to take the time to read it before he got to Australia and had a free moment on the set?
I think the trip back to LA and the agent visit was his fall back to Earth, and he's currently contemplating his seemingly ride-or-die status with her.
My captcha? wow
Wait, that didn't work. My new captcha is 'naw'
New shirt? A gift? A be brave my little soldier gift?
>>805 Whoa. No chill whatsoever, Tom. How I'd like to be in his mind right now.
>>803 Her and the new poster that's clearly a Swifty, KC, both get on my nerves. Veranda lady is literally sitting there pretending to be above it all but you can hear her eye twitching as she types out her "yawn" or "you're doing that sense thing again" I did enjoy how one poster interrupted KC's continuous apologist fawning to tell her TayTo can't be both decent and calculating at once and boy did she start a long winded fluttering and sputtering which was again smacked down by the same poster.
>>805 You know he's just chanting in his head, "She didn't do anything wrong. Taylor Swift said she loves me, okay? Taylor Swift does not lie. She cannot lie."
The style is very new. New shirt, new shoes - intended to disassociate? No dark shirt...not jacket...no grey shoes.
Captcha: lube
>>811 the white polo shirt (henley)? But it is so crumpled. One thing about her, she always looks neat and tidy and like she cares for her things.
This is what the shirt means:
"Look, everyone! I'm doing Nerd HQ wearing a white button down shirt! It's 2013 again and you all still love me!"
Will he smile? Do you think he's so tightly wound that he won't let himself enjoy it at all? No smiles, no laughs, nada.
>>814 Shoes I think are not new. A relic of "styled by yours truly." I suspect he had to buy the shoes because he could hardly return them after a few wears, unlike the clothes. I think they are the Louboutins. I had fun at the time imagining him screaming "$900? For a pair of shoes???"
>>815 Oh you're right, it's not a full button down. I didn't look closely enough.
I did notice the wrinkles though. Does he just ball up all his clothing and shove it in his backpack?
>>818 Yes, I should have said 'different' than what we've seen the past few weeks.
I've had gin. It helps.
Is it a white linen henley?
Comment of the year on tumblr: "I am hoping that that guy will be there again and he will shout "My wife doesn't love you any more"."
Someone pointed out he's wearing the same outfit was NerdHQ in 2013 (different colored shoes, but essentially the same:
http://karlaakamsloki.tumblr.com/post/147855938693/this-idiot-wearing-the-same-thing-he-did-3-years
Heading to Hall H with Olly and Luke in tow: https://twitter
.com/ilovemoobys/status/756915714259288064
>>826 Nice of Luke to show his face! Wonder if he's enjoying the shitstorm.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BINyJJFBl9t/
Looks like the gray shirt from one of the promotional tour interviews. I forget which one. They're all a blur.
(Captcha is "ape." At least robots are excited about Skull Island.)
Just in time.
I drank all the shots in advance and then some.
'Do you want a shot of home made absinthe' is not a phrase I should embrace.
Just a heads up that my narrative and spelling will be flawed from this point on.
That white henley is hideous. Eseecially TUCKED IN
This is the shirt I was remembering. Looks too dark to be the same one he's wearing today.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFCOG7qOr_g/
>>830 I think it's the light. It looks almost white in some pics. It's the same one though - good spot! And the reason it looks so crumpled is because it is a cheap version he picked up after the publicity tour instead of keeping the £1000 cashmere one.
On an unrelated note, John Goodman looks great in these pics! He has lost a lot of weight and he looks 10 years younger! http://the-haven-of-fiction.tumblr.com/post/147857752803/hiddlestonredalert-yahoomovies-had-a-blast
From Yahoo Movies, a better look at that Henley
https://twitter
.com/YahooMovies/status/756931540513202176
>>832 Alcomohol is seeping through my veins currently.
That white shirt that burns my retinas is not winning. If it was not tucked in and less reminiscent of the time my father and dog were struck by lightening I would be much more forgiving.
There is nothing designer about this shirt, if it has feelings, it feels regret.
Kong panel is starting.
Here's Couch Potato's liveblog link again in case anyone missed it:
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/705143-warner-bros-pictures-comic-con-panel
Brie is finally on stage with the rest of the crew now. They're showing the SI trailer.
https://twitter.
com/joblocom/status/756942448870383616
NO boos, apparently it's all i love yous:
https://twitter
.com/MarcusErrico/status/756944249661165568
Full Shit Island trailer: http://hiddlesfashion.tumblr.com/post/147859222244/full-length-kong-skull-island-trailer-released-at
>>838 The trailer is heavily concentrating on SLJ and John Goodman. It doesn't make Tom look like the leading man in this. Him and Brie seem like the side love story.
Hum - no project lined up after Ragnarok: http://ladyoftheteaandblood.tumblr.com/post/147859185074/tom-hiddleston-talks-kong-skull-island-thor
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIN4ikAAaYQ/
Waving to Luke, telling him NOT to yank the harness up into the ceiling.
>>840 he probably feels better now he sat his ass down with no booing.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BIN5gAlgMwz
Questions from the crowd - squeaky bum time, a little more pensive.
And they're done! He'll relax now, maybe, as Luke will puppet master the interviews with journalists. I'm sure there won't be any personal questions.
>>845 NerdHQ is still the wildcard here. I wonder if Zachary Levi will give a "no personal questions" order, or if they'll give Tom special treatment and screen the questions ahead of time just this once.
Ouch!
https://twitter . com/kylebuchanan/status/756944161576738821
>>847 Yeah, I think journalists and insiders will be a little more reluctant than fans to let him forget about the manipulation and media games in which he's indulged over the past month.
Have we seen this yet?
The nominees are referred to as:
AND...
Ouch again.
