Im 20 years old and have never been in a relationship. i've had boys tell me they like me but it was at a bad time (senior year of high school and i was moving to another country for college) or we were too close of friends and it was too weird for me. I've never dated, kissed or even held hands in a romantic kinda way. I've had a lot of friends who are guys so its not because i never talk to boys or anything like that. Is it weird for me to be 20 and never had a relationship?? When did you start dating? When do you think is too old to start?
I'm 22 and I've never had a relationship, kissed a girl, had sex, or any of those things.
It is daunting to be in this position because everyone else has a leg-up on you. Everyone else has had much more time to socialize and feel their way around the ins and outs of the dating game. They know what type of person to go after and what kind of person to avoid. They also know how to deal with rejection.
I don't have an answer myself. I'm still awkward in social situations and don't know how to "woo" someone. I don't know how to tell when someone is just being friendly and when someone is genuinely interested in me.
Are you socially awkward? Is there a particular reason you've never been in a relationship? What effect do you think never having been in a relationship has had on you?
At the age of 18 I was in a relationship for a year, broke up with the guy, and then didn't date for four years. Then I had three boyfriends over six months, each relationship ending in disaster. Then I didn't date for two years, and now I've been in a relationship for about four months and it's going pretty well. I'm 27 years old and my experience at dating has been very sporatic. The moral is there is never a right or wrong time to start dating. People date when they are in their fifties. Though if you want to date sooner rather then later the best thing to do is to either approach guys directly or go out to the clubs and be flirty... wait, you can't even drink yet! But sooner or later you will likely find yourself in a relationship, and that is a while other set of headaches with it.
but heres a question to add on to OP's thing:
is it true that the later you get into the dating game, the less your chances are to finding someone?
I mean right now, (age 19) everyone around me seems to have hooked up with someone. A lot of the guys I meet that seem like possible relationship materials are already in relationships! I mean, of course I understand that people break up, especially at this age, but lately it seems that all the relationships are more and more steady. I've heard a lot of stories of how if you don't have someone by the time you're out of university/college then your chances are lowered of finding someone..
>>4
I've heard this as well. I think it's bullshit. Everything is dependent upon whether or not you can make yourself look competent and experienced, and if you find the right woman. If she is the "right" one, then she shouldn't care about the fact that you've never had a girlfriend before when you admit the fact to her.
You can fail at the dating game 99 times, but if you succeed that 100th time, then you win. That's how I look at it.
Right now I have to figure out how to not be so awkward in conversations while simultaneously trying to overcome my tendency to be quiet and timid around women.
>>5 i don't think i would make it after the tenth fail let alone 99, just give up
theres no such thing as 'too late'. if anything, the older you get the easier it is, because frankly, people get more desperate in their old age.
now seeing as how youre in your 20s, youre not quite there yet. but as far as relationships go, being in your 20s without previous relationship experience is not a problem. why? because teenage relationships are generally worth absolutely nothing. you missed out on some puppy love and maybe some sex.
you need to stop looking at love and relationships as if they are a sort of game. you arent more likely to 'win' just because of some experience you gained as a kid. young people have a tendency to look at it this way. while as a youth it may not be entirely incorrect, ask those same people if they still think its a game when they are married with kids.
you fall in love with someone and they either love you back or they dont. if anything, an experienced man is going to prefer you because you dont come with baggage.
Its only too late when you say it is. As you have seen with other posters in this thread, you are not the only person who is in their early 20's and has had no romantic history. The best thing for you to do is to identify what are the main causes of your current status; are there things you do to prevent potential relationships on purpose? Do you have mannerisms and social skills that others would deem awkward? Are you just shy? Are you busy with other things that consume your time?
I was 18 before I had any romantic encounter, but even out of the blue it DOES happen. 20 is still plenty young, I should know.
Good luck OP.
I'm 24, male, heterosexual, and have never dated or etc. etc. Women have never expressed interest in me, save for one classmate whom I thought liked me -- but it turned out that was wishful thinking on my part.
To be honest, I don't care anymore. Up until about eight months ago, I used to really agonize over my single status. Now I don't care. I've given up. I don't try to socialize anymore, and I now spend my time divided exclusively between work, study, and catching up on my backlog of video games.
At the end of it all, some folks just aren't meant to date. If anyone here is one, you'll know it in your heart. You won't suspect it might be the case, you won't fear it might be the case, you'll know. You'll accept it as a certainty, just as you accept that the sun will rise tomorrow morning.
It's OP. Thanks everyone. I don't think I'm social awkward or anything. It just seemed like all my female friends and a lot of my male friends have been in a relationship and I was wondering if there were others out there who are late starters like me. It's not like I want to be dating right this second or anything. I just wanted to know if it would change anything if I never had any experience while the majority of people seem to.
Do such thing as late start. You start when you are ready; not to be part of the norm.
You will know when it's time and a particular person will trigger your interest. Something makes you want to know more about them.
If you are lucky (this applies to everyone) then the person your want to know about feels the same way also. 'getting to know each other' part is certainly one of the best moments of a relationship.
Don't try to force events that happen. It spoils the purity of it.
sighs
(just a quick rant)
but even with all that said... its such a pain in the ass waiting to find someone who feels the same way about you that you like as well. =(
>>7 and >>8 summarize well my opinions.
As for personal experience, I never dated before 19, and then only dated one person, and I'm still with her after 12 years. I know people who started dating before and still don't have a stable partner.
So dating early is not guarantee of building a stable relationship, that depends more on how you manage to mature. But it's also clear that people who have past experience are more likely to know what works for them, and get better at finding/creating it.
29 here, never had a girlfriend before.
Though it's certainly not the end of the world if you pass your university/college years by without venturing into romance (and there's something to be said about devoting oneself to one's studies), I'd say those years are definitely a great opportunity to meet someone. Most people by then are starting to mature into the people they'll become, if they haven't already. Many of them are also in a new environment, away from home, seeking new friends and relationships. And for most universities/colleges, they're just really big, so you'll get a chance to meet all sorts of people and spend time with them on a semi-regular basis.
I've liked girls and they haven't liked me back. Girls have liked me and I haven't liked them back.. I guess I just haven't come across the right one yet. And probably, I take things too seriously - don't fall into the trap where you're looking for 'the one and only'. Go out, casually date and have fun. If one of those dates turns into something more serious down the road, well there you go.
Good luck!
LOl you are not alone. I am too a big loser lol.
All i care is just games and movies.
Which now is a trouble for me, as i really like a girl now (complete stranger).
I contacted her from a social network site, the response was pretty good.
But now i am pretty much fucked up as i don't know what to do now
haha..
sorry if this kind of OOT or something else, first time posting here.
>now i am pretty much fucked up as i don't know what to do now
Yup, definitely OOT. Just open a new thread and present your situation, if you want some feedback on your situation.
Anyways, good luck for you too.
Oh yes there is a point in which it becomes too late. I thought like others have and gave a man at the age of 31 a chance at a first true relationship. Turns out they were wrong, any man who has never been in an intimate relationship by 30 is a lost cause. They will be so very clingy and obsessive to the point of stalking.
Hell I even had to call the police and have that man arrested for stalking me, after I had a restraining order placed on him. If a man is over 30 and has never been in a relationship that has outlasted a magazine subscription then same rules apply. Ladies, if a man asks you out go for that first date. On that date ask about his previous relationships and if you receive no answer, he hasn't had one, or has on but hasn't lasted a year then turn and run, fast. Leave that loser behind. If he tells you he had one or more relationships lasting over a year and he has lied, knee him in the balls and run.
To you men that are 30 or older and either never had a relationship, or a relationship lasting over a year then it is time to just remain permanently single and sexless. If you can't live with that then get counseling, or you may chose to end it all. I don't care one way or the other losers.
>>17
You are completely biased and generalizing all males over 30 due to one really horrible experience. Sure 30 is late in the game, but I do believe that it's never to late to fall for someone.
Well well, lookie here girls it appears we have yet another male loser. Loser, just google "teh intarwebs" and you will find numerous other examples of what I am talking about. All male losers like you turn out to be stalkers. There is a reason men remain single even past 30 and mental problems are always the reason. Us women can see a creepy male from a mile away but cave under pressure from friends to date such losers. I didn't find out until after the creep I dated was arrested that he was an asspie. So gals if you sense a man is creepy run the other way. If he follows use your cell phone and call 911, describe the male loser in as much detail as you can, and let them know you are being stalked so they can arrest the creep. The less male losers we have on the streets, the better off society will be.
Shut up.
Just shut up.
You know nothing of what you are speaking about.
I am a twenty-five year old woman and I am in the first relationship of my life. My boyfriend is a forty-seven year old man who has also never been in a relationship before. And there is nothing wrong with him. Or me. We've been dating four years and I know by now that he isn't a stalker, he isn't obsessive, and he isn't "creepy." He's just a man who never met anyone special, wasn't desperate enough to settle, and didn't believe that Love was in the cards for him and had resigned to living a solitary life. Though I had been at it for a lot less time than him, I felt precisely the same way. And then, by chance, we met, became best friends, and gradually fell in Love, mutually.
I will say this: there is no such thing as being too late to dating and, more importantly, finding Love. I and my boyfriend, the man who radicalized all I had known and expected of Love for me, are living proof of that.
So shove a sock in your preaching based on one foul experience and don't poison the well for all those who still have a shot. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and don't close yourself off to anything. More importantly, don't encourage anyone else to close themselves off, either.
>>20
That's pretty neat. What kind of person is he? And yourself?
>>17
You are quite presumptuous to deem those who choose not to condescend to women for sex "losers". There are those who remain aloof from such interactions for greater ends. Ever hear of Isaac Newton? The man pretty much invented mathematical physics, was a god amongst men, and never had any relations with women. QED.
>>22
I don't think she knows about Newton. Try less intelligent arguments. Much less intelligent.
@20
Oh lookie here gals, the male loser is whining because I hurt his wittle feelings. Let's say you really are a woman"Which I highly doubt) with a 47 year old male loser. Give him time and his true colors will come shining right through.
@22
It has nothing to do with sex and everything with relationship experience. Male losers lack relationship experience for a reason. If he wants to refrain from entering into a relationship that's fine by me. Once he reaches 30 though he should totally give up on the idea. By the age of 30 a man should have had at least 1 long term relationship, one that has lasted over a year. Issac Newton was fine with being single and male losers like you should learn that.
@23
I know about Sir Isaac Newton and my shit has more intelligence than your brain can comprehend loser.
>>24
Yeah? I'd be surprised if you could type a whole post without lexical error.
@24
Somehow I feel you'll end up bitter and alone.
When you stoop to the point of questioning a poster's ethos without having a legitimate reason to do so, you are in effect damaging your own legitimacy. You are also exposing an incredible flaw in your ability to argue a point without making personal attacks on your fellow arguer(s) due to a lack of competency on your own part. I cannot prove anything I said in >>20 , but since that's an inevitable part of conversing over the Internet, we'll have to leave it at that, in this thread and any other on the web.
I don't understand your charge of a fallacy in the idea of finding Love for the first time after the age of 30. Indeed, compared to the rest of contemporary society, not being in a "serious" relationship by the age of 30 may be an extreme on the side of abnormal, but does that automatically mean that it is so much better to go to the other extreme and shoot for having a certain number of relationships, no matter how or shallow or ultimately worthless, by a certain age? Are you really saying there's a magic number and a specific cut off point?
That is madness. I would like to reiterate that just because something did not work out for you, it does not mean it will never work out for anyone else. My own relationship is proof of that. And whether it lasts forever or at some point, God forbid, falls apart, it has proven to work for a relatively long period of time even at this point, disproving your end-all and be-all theory. I would go as far as to lend credence to the idea that a person that has gone a longer time than most without dating may have a more difficult time "getting into the game," but to charge that this sort of person is some how corrupted or incapable of ever dating successfully or finding Love is just plain bull shit.
Perhaps beating the odds even further down, we are both introverted, shy, "quiet" people who lack a social gene and are really quite lucky to have met and even given each other a chance. We share a common interest in things that may be considered similar but different. For example, he likes comic books and I like manga, he likes science fiction and I like fantasy, he's interested in cryptozoology and I like reading about hauntings, and we both like horror. We have VERY different tastes in music, television, and film, and that keeps our conversations from turning homogenous, as do the obvious differences in our life experiences up to this point. The most important thing, though, is that we legitimately love each other; the feelings this relationship have given me are very strong and very pure and very, very concentrated on him and his well being. I have never cried while thinking about how much I love anyone else I've ever met before, nor has anyone I've ever met broken into tears while gently telling me how much I mean to them. We finally admitted that we loved each other in April and kissed for the first time about a month after that. In the seven months since, every single day has had a silver lining to it, and it's because of the love that we share together.
I am a very, very blessed person to be in his heart and to have him in mine, and if either of us believed in the idea that it was "too late" at some point during our lives to ever give Love a chance, I would not be in the wonderful place I am today. I am so grateful that we gave each other, and ourselves, the chance that we did. It was the most rewarding risk I have ever taken in my life and I will never regret it.
>>27 great story, and best wishes for the future!
I can't trust someone who uses @ instead of >>
sage for nothing added, except to say that and >>26 etc is a troll
Give >>24 a break. Have you ever been stalked before? Do you know how terrifying that is? She may not be right to generalise all 30+ virgin men, but at least she has experience to back up her two-cents.
>>30 has a point. People should stick to their experiences, or what they have seen around them, but not generalize their case.
Whatever the general case is, our life is not a statistic, so you just have to try things out.
In regards to the relationship game, it only ends when there are no more players left. People still hook up in their eighties... And life is continuously creating and breaking couples, so there's no real hard and fast time limit, except death and debilitating disease.
>>30
Oh, getting calls from socially inept men is so scary! It's especially frightening when they breathe into the receiver and confess their love to you!
lol, yeah right
>>33 confessing over the phone is really a bad idea. The only reason I can understand one would do that is if you can't meet your love interest in real life.
Here is my take. I was self schooled, got my HS diploma and took some time off before resuming school for a double major in philosophy and computer science. I am 31, and I have never pursued any sort of relationships with women. Is it worth the trouble? Unless someone were to make the first move, it is unlikely that I will ever bother on my own, as I really don't even know how to approach a girl.
>I am 31, and I have never pursued any sort of relationships with women. Is it worth the trouble?
It's impossible to address that question, as the answer varies wildly, even for the same person over time. But what really matters is whether you are satisfied by living without a relationship, or whether you feel the need to entertain one.
>Unless someone were to make the first move, it is unlikely that I will ever bother on my own, as I really don't even know how to approach a girl.
Like everybody else, you learn by trying. And yes, that includes experimenting failure. What you really mean is that you don't want to endure rejection, and suffering. But there are no shortcuts, and the world does not owe you anything. There's no reason you should not put some effort in order to get what you want. On the other hand, consider this: although the one who makes the first move must risk rejection, he's also the one who makes the choice. And that's a huge advantage, even if you must be rejected many times before scoring a hit. Also consider that even a failure teaches you something, whereas a not trying teaches you nothing at all.
This is kind of a thing for me. I'm 25 and I've been in one (1) actual relationship, in college, for about two years. The thing is I never loved this girl, but she loved me, to the point that when I went to visit her a few months ago, thinking that we had broken up and were both past the whole thing, it turned out she still had those feelings for me.
I don't see myself getting into the dating thing again, though, because I find it really hard to relate to any of my peers. My interests don't line up that well with the usual, normal kind. Plus the fact that I usually hate being around people (unless I'm boozed up) and I don't actually have any friends, I don't use facebook, etc. I'm not even physically attracted to most women who are supposedly attracted, I just don't care. I do have a sex drive, but I satisfy it with increasingly more deviant porn (mainly hentai) and a lot of real women look disgusting to me. I'm pretty much broken that way.
Yet I still feel the need to find someone. I just don't know where I'm supposed to start.
>Yet I still feel the need to find someone. I just don't know where I'm supposed to start.
Care to elaborate on why you feel the need to find someone? That should give an hint on how to proceed.
And what are your interests and activities in life, besides hentai?
>>38
I have other sorts of extremely nerdy interests, such as video games and anime. Also history, politics, reading and writing, and music. I did sports when I was in high school and college, but I wouldn't really call it an interest.
As for why I want to find someone... I don't know. I guess I'd like to feel like a normal person for once in my life, have a girlfriend and go out with friends and all that stuff. And I'd like someone to share my interests with (at least some of them) and to share my life with. I don't want to die alone, I guess is what I'm saying. I've been told I'm reasonably attractive by one of my few friends, and she's got no reason to lie to me about it. And I do work hard, so it's not like I'm a lazy shitpile. I just hate being around people for the most part and find it hard to express myself to pretty much anyone.
>>39
Your interests are very tractable, and shared by millions of people of both genders. Don't worry, we live in a very nerdy age.
From what you write I gather that you want to share your life with someone who cares for you, who loves you. Guess what, you'll have to care for this person, if you want some reciprocity. So you'd better come out of your recluse stance, which won't help you at all. You are nothing special, and certainly not worth approaching if you keep a stand offish attitude.
If you want to meet people who can care for you, you need to start liking yourself a bit more. And for that, you need to lower your level of cynicism and self deceit. Do a bit less of running away, and a bit more of stuff you find positive. Also, learn to find what you like in other people, not what you don't like. It's very easy and coward to devalue everything that surrounds you, it's much more ballsy to say: I like this! And as for expressing yourself, use your interests to encourage your talking, and remember that practice makes perfect.
>>40
This is reasonable. I mean, I know what I have to do, and it's not like I'd have a problem loving a girl... just not the particular one I was with. My expectations may be too specific, though.
I still have a serious problem with socializing, and it's not like I expect to have a relationship while I'm still boxed up like this. I believe I have to solve that problem first.
>I still have a serious problem with socializing, and it's not like I expect to have a relationship while I'm still boxed up like this. I believe I have to solve that problem first.
That's correct, and you should treat that problem not as something abstract that you need to figure out sometime in the future, but as a concrete and immediate problem, just like getting food to eat today. Think seriously about what kind of people do you want to spend your time with, and how to go about to meet them.
>>42
Yes. I feel sure that I'll hate most people I meet, but I've gotten very good at pretending I don't hate them. Alcohol helps a lot in such situations.
>>35 Here
It is easy to say that I should make the first move, etc. but, from my standpoint, this is no simple task. I spend years in a somewhat reclusive lifestyle (not going to use the hikki cliche) before returning to school, so I could at least find a way to survive in the world. I am thus pretty inhibited in terms of interacting with others.
Sure, alcohol helps with these issues, but I really am not interested in the types I might meet under the influence. Sure there are numerous girls at school, but I find it pretty much impossible to initiate a conversation with the aim of picking up a girl. I would love to break the monotony of my existence; I have, after all, succeeded in escaping the life of a hikki, but finding a girl seems beyond me...
>>44 Don't try to use alcohol to get chicks, that's how disaster wreacks your life.
I understand that it's difficult for you to get over your shyness and approach women, but in your case I see two ways: 1) spend enough time with people doing some activity that you're both interested in. This should foster enough familiarity that the gap between you is so small that you can jump over it. 2) meet someone through a paid website. This allows you to exchange written words before meeting the person, so that once again you have enough familiarity to encourage you to go all the way.
And besides, congratulations on managing to get out of the basement, you have my cheers!
>>45
It is difficult to have much opportunity to interact with the opposite sex. My routine is pretty much to drive 20 miles to school from the middle of nowhere, sit in class, and then drive home. As far as option 1 goes, school is about the only option I have for real life interaction; living in a rural area sucks. Still, I have not really had the chance to know a girl long enough to have much in the way of conversation. Maybe option 2 would work.
I was able to break out of a bad situation, but this is a harder nut to crack. It really is possible to be in the middle of all the people in the world, and still be utterly alone.
See ya, >>35 out.
>>46 I sympathize. But I have to ask you, do you still want a relationship after all of this? I don't. The only reason I might consider it is just because I'm an only child, and my parents are starting to push me to find someone. I don't want to dissuade you, and it's possible I'm just saying this because I'm bitter right now and my scope is too narrow.
Even so, I don't have any interest in women anymore. They just make me wish I were dead instead. Maybe I should become a monk?
I've got two words for you all: Gray Thaumaturgy.
>>47
You know, its simply a hard situation. It may be possible to eventually run into someone, but I really feel that my hands are tied in this case. My situation simply left me in this position, since I was removed from the world for a long time.
i want a japanese boyfriend. someone like
but i'm not in japan. nor will i visit it anytime soon.
where to get one?
I'm sorry for going off topic here, but when reading this thread I can't help but wonder what happen to this site... this is a wonderful thread among tons of other amazing conversations, just where did everybody disappear to?
Sorry about my rant.
(I also sympathize with most of you. Many years w/o a relationship, but I've come to realize that by sitting in front of the computer all day long generally doesn't generate girlfriends, I've got to get out and find someone, because honestly... I'm getting kinda tired of being alone...)
>just where did everybody disappear to?
we're here, but there's no point talking if someone does not bring an issue, don't you think? If you want idle pointless chat, just go to DQN. But if someone really has an issue, then he'll get an answer.
And if you're into immature provocation, you can just bump some of those boring pedothreads, thinking you're a real rebel.
http://lix.in/-a8b894 a lot of good videos for adults
Although "hate male losers" is an obvious troll he or she does have some points. While there is the proverbial diamond in the rough the chances of that happening is slim to none. Generally if someone has not been in a long term relationship by a certain age chances are there is a reason. That is why it is a huge red flag. It means to watch out. I know I have too many mental health issues on top of other issues before I can get into dating. I never had a relationship last longer than a year and I am almost 40.
>>57
Or, you know, it could be that some of us were focusing too much on our studies and work to bother.
You made an excellent point, which is why it is a good idea to read between the lines before ditching anyone. The problem lies with people like me, those that tend to be clingy obsessive stalkers because a female just so happens to "be the one."
Your idea is pretty good there, starring at Secret Admirer, I like what you're saying there, its kinda true in a way. But clingy obsessive stalkers, arent they everywhere these days?? doesn't matter where you were/at, its at least gotta be one or two there. its bad isnt it.
read between the lines, I used to do that, and now I still do, but the problem is, for most of us we tend to just read it quickily instead of jumping lines like that, cant help ae!! its all matters of getting used to it, its just one of the kinds of many man.
things can only get worse, I never heard things will turn best when no one is appreciating about it.
Cheers mate, bottoms down. the chances are fat!!
>>57
a troll to beta males such as yourself. being a beta aint bad, just u wont get ne girls. betas, or some call "nice guys" are whiners w/ weak genes. alphas, or jerks as the "nice guys" call us are the doers with strong genes and teh beta cant handle that. oh girls change once they reach the age of 30 or even 40 and their used up. they say they want men with exp to be sure they get a nice guy. guess what, only teh jerks will have exp so you nice guys will lose out while we alphas will still get plenty of pussy. so nice guys either be happy being perm virgins or just kill yourselves.
I'm not an alpha, a beta or anything else. I don't play the game. Hell, I've had girls chase after me, quite a few of them, and I rejected all but one. I didn't even like the one I ended up with, despite the fact that she was smart and objectively attractive.
Does it bother me that I haven't had that much experience? No, not really. Since I don't find 99.9% of women attractive or interesting enough to pursue a relationship with, I couldn't care less about having experience with them. If I wanted "plenty of pussy" I could probably get it easily, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm getting no benefit out of the deal.
I'm really a lot more worried about improving my writing and music skills and continuing my education and getting a real job that pays well than I am about women. Since my family is worried about me (some of them think I'm weird because I don't care about women) I might just get them to play matchmaker for me if they're that concerned about it. I may as well get married for the stability, but love is out of the question.
>>63
teh girls that where not chasing u for ur body or to give u pussy. u sound like ur a typical omega, teh lowest of the males. girls hate anything below alpha cuz betas adn below have weak genes w/ omegas having weakest genes. teh beta and omega tend to put teh pussy-on-teh-pedestal not knowing girls are hypergamous. once teh pussy is on teh pedestal teh weak lil beta and omega are instantly friendzoned and turn around and whine about it. tey never learn and teh process repeats while we alphas get teh pussy teh weak gened girlymen cant handle. so dont worry bout gettin married itl nevr happen. lmfao
>>64 yeah, seems likely. I hope my family drops the whole matter because I don't want a woman to have to get stuck with an ice-cold type like me who won't care about her or give her any intimate attention. They probably won't drop it, though, since I'm an only child.
>>65 thanks for the wisdom. How's first year of high school going for you?
better then omegas like you did. got more pussy that year then teh number of frindzones you will ever get. cant compare pussy 2 pussy cuz u will never get ne. lmfao
>>67 yeah, I know the type you're talking about. I'm not one of those pathetic "nice guy" types. Like I said, I'm not interested in pussy as you put it. Really kind of disgusts me, actually. But you're clearly a troll, so hey.
>>68
oh i herd that line alot of times before from omegas like u. that was b4 they where turned down buy a hooker. omegas r so bad even hookers dont even want em. teh beta and omega put teh pussy on teh pedestal so much and hookers only screw up due to hyergamy teh beta and omega cant even get pussy even when paid 4. lmfao
>>69 lol okay. I don't even know what you're talking about now. Pussy on a pedestal? I don't even like it. You know what, you sound like an insecure dipshit.
>>70
omegas like u put teh pussy on teh pedestal when u treat due to insecurity. weather u like it or not ur placed n a group based on ur genes and that would b omega 4 u do 2 having weak. i am alpha cuz i have teh strongest genes. face it, u have nothing 2 offer girls witch is y u "hate" pussy. now i know y they call u handsome. lmfao
@61
Experience does not include sexual experience. As a mattwr of fact the only experience male losers like yoy have are one night stands and short term relationships because that is all you are interested in. The requirement of a LTR that has lasted longer than a hockey season is there to weed out losers like you or the "omega" type losers.
@63
Well that is you choice, just as long as you don't come whining later on that women won't give you the time of day.
Hate Male Losers - You are a Narcissistic bitch.
Hate Male Losers - You are a Narcissistic bitch.
Worth to try man, but sex...sex is Ok. Some people can think it's boring to have sex with a girl but it's not as bad as seems to be. When you have sex you can play games (I won couple of FIFA matches) or chat with friends. Cam sex is boring too but you can try. Just visit chatroulete or originclub.com or facebook, but when you see nude girl with huge tits - oh, man, give it a rest! it's better to watch spider-man movie or harry potter really. Sex is boring
Do you know the difference between a conversation and rape?
No? Let's go upstairs and have a talk.
I am too lazy to get into relationship game..
And to be honest I dont enjoy sex at all
Yeah seeing all couples makes me envious some time but still I am okay with masturbation
Why bother...
I dont like girls at all, they are loud and stupid
I can not stand girls
Fuck off from my life, okay
If you think love is a game you're going to lose just by playing you know. Try to take another angle.
It's not too late. You're fucking 20, not 80. You got a good couple decades on you before you're officially screwed.
