I'm usualy just a lurker around the board, but today i have a story... recently i been posting about long distance relationship because I really like this girl that lives in japan. but i live in australia so its really hard if i want to confess to her.. well this is how it all started...
Around 2005 April, i was picked on by some people at school because of my hobby, which is movie making. I'm really like a movie otaku, i love watching movies thats why my dream is to become a film director. most of the girls i knew, i told them about my hobby and they would all ne like "isn't that like really immature??" and later on wont ever talk to me.. it was around November when i was on a japanese pen pal website where i met the japanese girl, her name was Aya. we started emailing each other talking about school and life style ect. then i asked her if she used skype and she said she uses it so we added each other. we started talking in skype, (to those who doesn't know its like msn but you use microphone to talk). for the first time, i told her i'm into film making... she unlike the other girls was actualy intrested in it.. she asked me when can i show her my movie.
we talked almost everyday, mostly for 2 hours and we can always talk about anything like movies, anime, school, music ect.. then one night... we talked for 6 hours! i only had 2 hour sleep because i had to wake up for tennis lessons >"< we got more close after that. for christmas i bought her a bracelet and air mailed it to her, she liked it alot. one day i got her email but was really surprised... usualy at the end of the email she would just write "from Aya" but this time she wrote "Love from Aya". i had this feeling when i saw it. after that, i didn't hear from her for 2 weeks and then one night i got her email asking when can i talk to her... but after that... I've waited for a month and stil counting on... I emailed her before saying i have something to tell her because i planned to confess to her next time we talk.. but now i dont think i can do it because i reckon its highly likely i may get rejected since we are so far away ＿|￣|○" the feeling with this girl is different from all the other girls i liked. should i confess or not??
Don't bang her with your shuttle COCK HahAHAHAHAHA....
I'm so lonely...
I wonder if he blew it or not.
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well.... i must say.... i think i blew it up last nite but then again not really....man...lyss is soo cuttee!~~ well this is what happened
i told 4 friends to come with me on that night cos i thought mayb i wont be so shy if i have some friends around to suppot. well we all got thier but apparently only members are allowed to play and my friends aint any members, that counter guy is such a bastard, we asked if we can just watch but his like "no u must be a member, its insurance blah blah blah" so my family friend (the girl who told lyss i like her) dragged lyss to meet me and i gave her the dvd. she looked really happy with it and kept on saying thank u. my friends kept on telling me to go in and play but i felt bad leaving them behind thier watching since i was the one who dragged them there. so i decided to go with my friends and we end up at his house.
yeahh i know i blew it up but lyss was pretty happy about the DVD plus i printed a cover on it.
well i was talking to her today and aplogized about last nite leaving with out a word and explained wat happened. she said it was fine (btw she gave me a anime dvd as well last nite and didn't give me the 2nd season soo...) then she said she said "btw how can i give u the rest of the dvd?" so i was like "hmm not sure", she said she was gonna give it to one of my friends at badminton but then i said "hm i'll be around the school area some time this week, mayb we can just meet somewhere and u can give it to me there" and she said "oh, ok! but tell me when not sure when i will be at home xD" soo i'm gonna meet her this week just the two of us.... my god!~ and i thought i stuffed it up last nite (which i did). well she said she had to go walk the dog so she said she will talk to me later cos going for a walk with her friend (dunnno if its a dog cos she suddenly said her grandmother left her dog at her house~~") well..... any suggestions for that meeting?!!!
its a date now i think..... cos we arranged to meet at the train station.... btw i accidently asked if she eva had a bf and apparently she hasn't.... she asked me why and i said just wondering, she went a little "....." but we're stil talking. i cannot stuff up on wednsday!
lol she gave you only the first season, eh? Might be something behind that.
>>320 r u seriouse?! theres this intresting convo that happaned today.... we were talking about my family friend that goes to her school and i was saying how she use to spread rumours about me liking this other girl, lyss was like "omg... wow, GO BENSON!" and i said "nonooo i didn't, she made it up" and she was like ".......,you can tell me if you did y'know ;("
so i said "yeahh i know!" and she said "telll meee =D" and apparently she knows about aya.... she said she read it on my forums (not 4ch obviously) and i kinda noticed she didn't talk as much as usual....but she stil gives me the smiley and patting icon lol! i was thinking of taking her to a nice cafe around the station, wat do u think??
WOW! I just read the whole thread and I've seen a lot of improvement from you! You posted this thread cause you wanted to get to know Aya more and know it's cause you need help with Lyss! Man, I hope your life turns out great! Oh and do you still talk to Aya? Cause the reason she disappears is because of all the teast and studying they do! I have penpals in China, Korea, and Japan and they're doing it to! So how old Aya anyway? It would be nice to get to know another japanese person.
>>she said she read it on my forums (not 4ch obviously)...
From a girl's perpective, finding out that a guy posts his love problems on the net is freaky. It gives the impression that you're ultra sensitive. Sure, alot of people do it, but know one really talks about it IRL.
Other than that you seem to be managing with Lyss really well.
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well aya hasn't replied me for... 2 months now i think. i dont mind stil having contact with aya cos its good to stay good friends stil. Aya is 15 years old, turning 16 this year i think.
>>324 well the post i did on my forums wasn't like these ones on 4CH, its more like "i waited 4 months for one email reply! damn thats long" and all the people that post are my friends lol. i realized on the day i have to stop being so shy cos that will just ruin everything. i'm pretty surprised how similar we are.... never had a relationship, both really shy infront of people we dont know, love watching anime ect and shes a really nice person as well.i'm also surprised how well this is going cos usualy i just blew it up within 2 weeks lol! well hope it goes well this time
>>Other than that you seem to be managing with Lyss really well.
Perhaps, aside from the fact that he still hasn't inquired about her favorite pokemon. Seriously, is he that worried about it being a bad choice? Perhaps she likes Luvdisc?
>>327
Nah I'm thinking Jigglypuff.
>>327 lol i'm afaird if i ask her wat fav pokemon is, she mite think i am some pokemon maniac~~"
Hey! If your a maniac of some time such as Poke'mon or Yugioh! It's okay! If she can't accept the fact that you are who you are then she's probably not the your looking for.
Speaking of Yu-Gi-Oh, I like making wind decks. It's a fairly underrepresented and undersupported element when you compare it with things like Dark or Water, but it has some very excellent monsters.
Freak.
Anyway, I'm not suggesting that he talk to her about Yu-Gi-Oh cards (just yet), because that's fairly hardcore compared to Pokemon. Pokemon is somewhat more accepted, and ever people that don't like it much can have a favorite monster, and that can tell you a lot about the person's personality.
ahh i see, well i will try and ask her lol!~ prob a cute type pokemon i think
No, don't listen to him. You can ask her sometime if you really want to, but this might be too early on. Let your relationship cement first.
see if she like guns?
>>336 i doubt she likes guns LOL!
lyss doesn't seem to talk that much as usual now..and for some reason she sounds kinda shyish on msn~~" we were arranging the times to meet and something came up...
Lyss:waiit.... some how i need to organize with my friend for a walk. so i can meet u without my dad knowing..ok
Benson: oooo ok~
Lyss: Um... ok >< problem is that...i'll probably go out for lunch with dad, mums in china and brothers in uni so i'm not sure if i can make it on time..T_T
Benson: ahh actualli...tell me when you can get thier, cos i'll be thier this whole afternoon, so when your gonna go thier just give me a message or something.
Lyss:....you're just hanging around thier? for what?
Benson: need to buy a stupid gift for a friend so i'll be walking around that area.
Lyss:lol! ok!
Benson:yeah that should make it easier~~"
Lyss:coolies! =D ty!!~
Benson ^^
Lyss: ...when are you gonna be there untill??
Benson: i'll be thier the whole afternoon, cos i got a piano lesson at 5
Lyss: oohhh i see!
i'm a little speechless latley.... but it still looks good~~" btw apparently she use to like a friend of mine from school who is a type of person that is a attention seeker, has bad breathe and kinda... hard to explain, his like those type of person who you think that no girls will like him... so when i heard that i'm like "OMG r u serious?!" and she also just gave up someone she liked for 7 months a week ago.... well i really dont know if this is going good or not... depends on wednday
okkk i just had the best convo i had so far with lyss!!~well i asked her how much hw she has for the holidays and apparently she has alot.... so i said "if you ever need any help feel free to ask me cos thats alot of hw" and she said "TY!!!~~~" anway... ok about 2 days ago, i made up this name in japanese on my msn.. today when i talk to lyss she asked me about the name...
Lyss:....something pulling me to kurayami...to dark gloomy place...darkness?
Benson: huh?
Lyss: ur name
Benson: oh!~
Lyss:who is that? -_-
Bennson: uummmm.....
Lyss: is it you?
Benson: yeah~~"
Lyss:why did u type that in? what happaned?
Benson: well nothing really happaned..butt
Lyss:what happened?!?!?!?!?! telll meez ><
Benson: well i just the feeling i had before i was dark
Lyss: why??!! nnnooo!! *smack dont be emo!!
Benson:nonono
Lyss: its bad for you!
Benson: I'm not turning emo lol
Lyss: it SOUNDS emo!! geez
Benson: zomg really?!
Lyss: stop the darkness stuff, its really bad for you!
Benson; i have!
Lyss: really..then why you type that in?! and get it OFF your nickname!! omfg! put on something happy! DONT BE EMO!! ><
Benson: wowww
Lyss: its bad for you!! nnnnoooooo!! ><
Benson: lol i'm not turning emo, jus this feeling i had, just felt weird
Lyss: like... emo weird? get rid of the feeling! ><
Benson: i know why but...
Lyss: why? >< why are you turning emo?!
Benson: your gonna think i'm weird, zomg i'm not! this isn't even emo!
Lyss: lol it sounds like it, go on tell me!
Benson: omg you havn't even seen me turn dark
lyss: even NOW you sound emo
Benson: zomg really?!
Lyss: here have some light! (does this light bulb icon 3 times)
Benson: lol thanks!
Lyss: anyway tell me what happened
Benson: okk well its just i had this weird dream latley
Lyss: like??
Benson: my brother and my dad... were killed
Lyss: wahhh, no wonder your turning emo....
Benson: and it felt really real, in my dreams i even had this memory of them when they died... it just felt like my self in the past again
Lyss: *pats(its an icon) wahhh dont, thats bad!
Benson: well what i'm afraid is that... in year 4, i had a dream about my dog dying, in a week it was killed by a car...
Lyss: T_T my god.... thats kinda freaky
Benson: i know... so weird.... but i doubt its gonna happen cos... to be honest this isn't the first time... i had a dream of my dad dying in hospital but nothing happaned and plus it doesn't make sense cos my parents are over seas and my brother is living with me now.
Lyss: just....be wary...and dont be emo...
Benson: ddww i'll be fine by tomorrow
Lyss: hopefully...:(
Benson: Sorry if i scareed you
Lyss: i wasn't scared, I'm just worried about you ><
Benson: lol dont need to, i'll be fine~~"
Lyss: eat chocolate! it'll make u happy!!
Benson: serious i'm fine! dont worry about it!
Lyss: aaaawww *pat
Benson: lol thanks!
Lyss: *pat *pat i think you need it *pat *showering you with comfort ...and light (does all these sun and light bulb icons)
Benson:hahahaha , your a really nice person! seriously i'll be fine
Lyss: have more light! *light icon
Benson:lol getting a little bright here
lyss: nnoo! its GOOD!! HAVE MORE LIGHT! (then does this sun icon) actuali sun light is better....
Benson: lol thanks for the light!~
well anyway... she keeps sending me these light icons like a flashy light, sun, light bulb ect.... I'm meeting her tomorrow, getting all nervouse noww~~" okk heres what i planned..... if she has to go home i'll say "hey i'll walk you home!", if shes not doing anything i'll ask her if she can help my find a gift for my friends birthday which is the day after tomorow, if she agrees we'll walk around the area and prob take her to a nice cafe or something! what do you guys think?!!
funny how you guys throw the word "emo" around alot.
zomg! you're asian and u have black hair....EMO!
shallow conversations, but at least you're getting somewhere.
GO FORTH, TEENAGER!
You played that quite well
WHY IS YOUR NAME 電影男? PLEASE ANSWER ME IMMEDIATELY
The moral of this story is don't be emo!
>>342 lol i'm using 電影男 cos i'm addicted to movies and movie making, also alot of people been calling me that latley~~''
annyywayy yesterday i was suppose to meet lyss, i was having lunch with some friends when i got a message from her and it said....
"omg benson, i'm so sorry!! i dont think i can make it today cos dad is being really tite!! i'll send you the codex ok? i'm really sorry!!! T_T"
well i must say i was a little disappointed cos everytime when i go out with a girl, something will happen in a bad way. i was thinking mayb she made that up or something but apparently it was true, her dad is really tite cos i asked my friend about it after and they told me her dad is so tite that shes not suppose to be on msn at all... so i told her it was ok and said how do i give you the dvd? then she replied
"how do i give you the rest as well?>< work out something later on msn? sorry again!!"
well i got home at night and talked to her, again she kept on saying sorry and stuff. she seemed to be stressed from all the hw she had so i just told her that is she needs any help just tell me. also....for some reason she called me big brother in chinese like "yes gege(big brother in chinese)" when i said "gotta focus!!" hmm i hope she doesn't think me as a brother~~" well i'm hopinh to try and talk to her on the phone now, gonna call her sometime today if possible to arrange another time to meet.
BUT 電影男 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MOVIES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Wow! Benson. I've been through that many times!Trying to talk with a girl and then she just blows you off with an excuse. All the excuses I 've gotten were, "I'm helping my mom cook, I'm baking a cake, My mom needs me, My mom's calling me downstairs, I have to eat......." Everytime we talk there's always an excuse! The only time when she didn't have one was when she didn't know me on AIM cause I was known as Spider-Man to her for 3 hours! When I revealed who I was, she kept asking If I was joking about being TokyoJapan22! Well, since then I haven't spoken to her at all.
how old are you guys... seriously...
>>346
And you can't accuse them of lying either, cause then you look like an asshole and blow your chances completely.
>>345 電影男 means movie man and like i said alot of people call me that latley at school and stuff
>>346 i know what you mean, everytime i have a date with a girl or something, they will either blow me off on the day or something naturallly bad happens.... i guess its just my luck. but i dont think lyss blew me off cos he dad really is tight. cos if she did blew me off, why would she want to arrange another time to meet so i dont think she blew me off. well i didn't talk to lyss today cos she seemed really busy with hw~ i just realized my god brother in Taiwan is about to release his album by Sony, his name is evanyo! so surprised XD
>>349 電影男 means movie man
WHY MUST YOU LIE TO ME IN SUCH A BLATANT MANNER?
Yeah sorry to break it to you dude (ok not really it's kind of funny), but it doesn't mean movie man. 映画男 would be what you are looking for. How do you even pronounce 電影男? Den kage otoko?
>>351 ahh well it means movie man in chinese, soz for the misunderstanding but i think 電影男 is Eiga Otoko
映画男 is eiga otoko
>>350
i want to know the truth too
sorry for my misunderstanding!~ i just directly translated from chinese. but does eiga otoko mean movie man??
btw i didn't talk to lyss today, i had some friends over and she still seems to be busy working....
>>350 lied to you?!!
Did you ever think that maybe the Japanese and Chinese didn't use the same exact characters for this term?
and now we learn where hong kong anime subtitles come from
>>357 /love/ ?
lol i did the stupidest thing today, i had 2 friends over last nite and today we found these handcuffs, i thought i had the key so i pranked them and handcuffed my self when i found out it wasn't the key. we spent about 3 hours trying to find the real key and trying to get it off. i told lyss about it and she just laughed at me lol and now her msn name says "hahaha bensons kinky XD" well luckily i figured out how to break the handcuffs... anyway i wanna ask you guys something, as many of you know that lyss knows i like her cos my family friend told her, i was about to ask my family friend why she told lyss i like her but then i thought its better not saying it cos she might tell lyss that i knwo that she knows i like her..... this family friend is a little problem for me, shes been telling her friends how mean i am to her when i was just joking around...mayb too much that night... and not to mention i helped her alot before with hw and some problems... she use to have a crush on me which was really troublesome.. what should i do?
i wonder how long it will take him to confess
eh what does it mean when a girl says that she doesn't normaly starts convos with people on msn but has started 2 convos with you and says you should feel special about it.. btw this isn't lyss. i didn't talk much with lyss yesterday and she has work experience today, btw the girl who said the special thingy is called manda and i use to like her. i've talked to manda for a long time and we're like really good friends.
I'll be frank, Benson. Try to live your youth without worries. Because surely, you're living a golden age that won't come back, and be there good or bad memories, try to live them all and in your best disposition. To sum it up, >>360. All your good (girl)friends are in an unstable yet powerfully attractive age. It's all new for them as much as it is for you (relatively). Girls will much more likely be attracted to secure guys. (Let me be redundant, confidence, not assholeness.) Girls seem much less pressured into relationships because it's their specialty. They are taught to understand relationships at a young age, be more open, talkative, and experienced in dealing with people (women are by nature more communicative than men, because long ago, women would spend time communicating among themselves. Gossip is part of women's evolution. Men, on the other hand, are less verbal because evolution required us, hunters, to be absolutely silent during hunt. Physical contact and body motions are our way of communicating). So do not be uncomfortable for not knowing what some phrases or expressions mean. You were never taught that. Try to communicate to women in their language. Practice makes perfection.
Do create a healthy habit of practicing your moves beforehand. Learn how to approach and start interesting and romantic topics by training alone. Out loud. Maybe even record and listen to yourself. Practice makes perfection.
>>361
Lol..if she's anything like me then she doesn't mean anything by it. Alot of people do that, guys as well as girls. I don't tend to start conversations with people either, so I can tell you that you shouldn't read anything more into it, other than the fact she wanted to talk to you at that time. You don't expect people to take it seriously you know?
>>362 it is true, i think i worry to much even with small things around me. this manda girl seems to be intrested in me cos shes been talking alot latley....like telling me alot of stuff like how her mum was murming bad stuff about her becasue she got her ear pierce.
i think i have this problem that i think too much, maybe small stuff like the special thing makes me think that someone is intrested in me or something or mayb i am just too sensative... eh...for some reason i've got lyss and manda in my head now...well its cos... 45 mins ago, my house had this odd banging noise and my older brother thought there mite be someone in the house so we had like weapons in our hands and checked around the house, my brother made me and his gf stay in this small room and he went to check around. while i was sitting in the room i was thinking "if something really did happen..." when suddenly lyss and manda both poped in my head... i was also thinking "should i tell lyss i like her if something did happen...mayb my last words" (i know i shouldn't be thinking that at a time like that!) luckily there was nothing and we double checked everywhere to be sure. so when i got back to my room i was thinking "why was i thinking that?!" thats why i reckon that i think too much.
also... say if manda did like me... what do i do?! shes a really nice girl and pretty cute as well... i would feel really bad if i just rejected her like that..so confusing~~"
btw i sms lyss saying "hey how was work exp?" but i got no reply...
Wow! that's really a bummer. I happen to like a girl, but then I also have some other girls I think I like as well. Only that one of them makes me feel really nervous and jumpy inside. The others I only find as friend's or really cute girls. Problem is, I actually get to know them really well, I wonder if my impression of them wil change.
>>my brother made me and his gf stay in this small room
And you let this chance slip by. You could have added her to your ever-expanding harem.
Come on, man-- eyes on the prize.
>>366 um... nah its a bit wrong...~~"
funny thing is i was talking to manda on the phone for 56 mins, talked to lyss on msn and she told me to stay happy cos she thinks i've gone "emo" again lol. well tomorow i decide to call lyss, i think i am slowly getting better at this. when i use to be on the phone i would be really speechless but tonite me and manda were talking alot for 56mins! her battery ran off at the end so she sms me about it lol! i seem to be doing pretty good with manda and lyss atm!~
I want you to go ahead and try one of them. Don't let time pass. It's normal to feel attracted to more than one at a time, but you shouldn't necessarily hit on the one you like the best. Try going out with the one you think you could have a closer or closest relationship. By going out I mean DATE. Go out and DATE HER.
I want you to ask her out, come back here and give some results.
Do you happen to know what this "Manda" girl's favorite pokemon is?
lol.
I thought this thread was totally going nowhere until I saw >>355.
Anyways, if you don't speak Japanese, prepare to be rejected.
>>368 hmm i mite try and ask manda... seems more possible that she would go.
i'm not doing well with lyss right now actuali, she doesn't realy talk much now on msn. i'm actuali talking more to manda now, but what i'm afraid is that most of her friends know i like lyss and stuff but if i suddenly say i like manda which her friends know as well, they are gonna think i'm some sort of player....weird thing is i talk more to manda now. well i will ask manda out next week cos her birthday is right after the holidays, mayb get her a small gift or something!~
well. if manda has even the slightest more intelligence than lyss, then go for manda definitely. i am seriously tired of airy fairy girls like lyss. but that it probably because i don't like the idea of being told by other people that i should be HApPieeEE~~~!! 24/7 or else be considered an emo.
>>372 lol true, she thinks i'm turning emo again!
yeahh i think i'll go for manda now.... *sigh all that hard work gone..... mayb just time out with lyss for a while cos at the moment shes not really talking to me.
btw if i ask manda out, what do i say?!!
"Hey baby, you got a light?"
By the way, Benson, men should type with complete sentences, and proper spelling. Don't use "actuali" or "mayb", it's girlish. Please correct yourself.
And use more phone and less MSN. It naturally tends to make your relationships more based on actual meetings, while keeping the phone as intermediary to get to meet. I've said this before already.
>>375 oh sorry about that, stupid msn made me type like that.
hmm so phone is better then msn, well i better go charge my pre paid phone cos i can get free minutes on it. my parents would kill me if they see the phone bills if i talk to her everyday.
ohh btw i was thinking if i dont get the chance to give manda a small gift for her birthday, i was thinking maybe i can play the piano over the phone, is that a good idea?
do you know this girl well enough for buying her a gift to not be creepy?
i know her for about 5 months now, we are pretty close friends and stuff. i tried to call her just then but no one is picking up, i try again later
Just wondering, is your life all about trying to court girls? Cos this is one damn long thread. If I'm right, there's about 4 girls over 6 months that you devote all your time to, yet when it looks like you're gonna make a move, another one comes along and catches your eye (and you start all over again).
>>381 well for tthe first 4 months it was mostly about aya (the japanese girl) then everyone told me to move on and stuff, its either that i stuff up and start again or just keep trying cos it took me a while to get over Aya which she disappeared for a long time.
btw some crazy bastard flipped while driving my go-cart today and almost broke his arm... he was sent to the hospital, having a early birthday party today lol.
Play piano to her personally. Not over the phone, for her sake. And I meant to type like a man always, meaning on MSN as well.
Ask her out for dinner as a birthday present (doesn't have to be on the actual birth*day*). A kiss on a date is much more appropriate for a gift. You can ask her to close her eyes and stretch her hands, put your left hand over her eyes, your right hand you hand her any small gift, and then you can give her the "gift". If you try this, make sure you switch the purpose of your hands to hold the side of her head with the left hand (instead of keeping them over her eyes), and hold her hands with your right one (instead of holding the gift) as you kiss her.
That is probably the best way to kiss a girl. Wow, Mireille guy, you know your shit.
>>383
I'm all gooey inside..
ok guys... for some reason i'm going out with lyss again instead of manda..lyss suddenly started talking to me again today on msn again and this time no more "....." she randomly came up to me and said this " Hmm, you sound happier! YAY! stay like that!" and i told her about the crazy guy who flipped my go-cart and said it was my responsible for his injuries and she tells me "its not your fault! your too hard on your self!" and shes really talkative today some reason.
but the problem here is... i really like both manda and lyss. i can talk to manda about anything and she wont be freaked about it and she seems to be intrested in me like i called her and she didn't pick up, she sms me telling she went to visit her brother at a place and went to a winery, left her phone in the hotel and should be back on monday. this is really confusing me...i really like both of them, i realized from the past 6 months i prob sound like a player since theres been 4 girls i talk about in this thread.
>>383
Tell us some more hypothetical situations.....like what benson should do on christmas day.
Stop, stop, stop, and stop. Are you following ANYTHING that I'm writing you? Open your eyes, and notice, that I INSIST that you need to focus on one girl. When you are close to getting one girl, other girls notice your change in attitude and subconsciously become nicer to you. This is consistent with a guy or girl being suddenly approached by several potential partners at a time. Women are born with that instinct of knowing the timing for relationships, so if you don't take care of yourself, you will end up in failure. You want to get as close as possible and hook up a girl (as when you go fishing you hook a fish and it can't get away) to enjoy total freedom with her. You are NOT in that position, so you CANNOT go for both. Once you hook one fish, you take it out, put it in your bucket, THEN go for the other. If you don't and try catching a second fish, you'll lose both fish. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
>>384 Far from being the best way to kiss a girl. There are surely better ways, just be creative. If you're a girl, and have been kissed like that, I accept the compliment. If you're a guy but have not tried my approach, I suggest you practice it with any girl you can, (if it's still way too hard to practice on your friends, you can practice it by yourself on your forearm or hand.) Until you tell me it worked will I accept your compliment. Heck, you can even use "practice" as an excuse to woo a second girl (As in Benson has hooked the first girl already and "innocently" uses her second friend as practice for the first).
Let me expand on >>383
Make sure to use reinforcing commands such as "keep your eyes closed," or "hold the present," while switching your hands around. This reinforces your position, and makes the kiss more submissive, (almost all girls like the submissive kiss, that is, the girl receiving, and the guy giving the kiss). (Some exceptions for this are women who like younger partners. They are usually on the aggressive side of the kiss, and personally, I like those kisses since they are much hotter, and become quickly erotic if the man is aggressive as well.)
>>Make sure to use reinforcing commands such as "keep your eyes closed," or "hold the present," while switching your hands around. This reinforces your position, and makes the kiss more submissive, (almost all girls like the submissive kiss, that is, the girl receiving, and the guy giving the kiss).
Too true.
>>388 i know what you mean not to go for both, at the moment i am still going for lyss. ok so say if i dont get lyss then i go for manda, would that be better?! well i tried to pratice on what you said >>383 but i think i need more pratice.
well i will stay the same with manda at the moment as in good/close friends and try to get lyss. i'm seeing her this thursday around 2:00PM at the same place as last time. oh i was gonna give her this small gift and on that day i will tell her to close her eyes and put her hand out, then i'll put the gift into her hands and close them, it'll be a surprise, would that be good?
If you're not man enough to kiss her in the mouth, do give her a kiss in the cheek. It's corny, but I guess it can't be helped until you practice a little more and overcome your shyness. This is the birthday girl, correct? (Remember that the actual gift is the kiss, not the object. Follow the kiss with a compliment. Maybe she'll hint you to give her another actual kiss.) Any man can get any girl. Stick with one until she's completely yours, and remember not to waver in your decision. Be creative and practice!
lol stalkers
>>393 I've got to admit Benson's fun. Such a meek guy with good potential, and thriving with opportunities. Wouldn't want to see him fail in becoming a Casanova and turn into one of those heterophobic self-pitying idiots.
>>394 haha thanks, your a great help here.
well i found out that lyss has someone she likes, dont know who the guy is. i found out from her friend when i was talking to her today on msn. but we're stil talking normaly, her friend told me to keep a little distance from her and that love changes ~~" this is getting rather confusing.. i really want to know what kind of guy she likes, i've been really nice to her and always support her in every way. well who knows, maybe love does change.
Benson is a natural loser. He will never succeed
well lyss is out. she likes someone else and dont worry about who it is, just know that she doesnt like you the way you like her. so now focus on manda and hopefully things will work out for the best.
No! Are you understanding what I'm writing at all? You don't care who he is and what he does! He is your competition, and there is no reason to give up on her just because she hints she might like someone else. You will go all the way with her until she's yours, or she dismisses you completely for the other guy. Otherwise, you will get dragged into a drama (I don't want to get into the details of the drama, but try to figure it out yourself.) Read the post I've written about this! (I forgot where the post is... I've gotta start logging and organizing these posts.)
Found the earlier post:
http://4-ch.net/love/kareha.pl/1159108280/3
>If you're a man, you will ask her out, meet and court her, and disregard the fact that she's seeing someone else.
Maybe Lyss tell her friend to tell you that she likes someone else?
Maybe because she doesn't want to tell you directly, plus she knows you like her, so she doesn't want to hurt you.
Why don't you say to her, you like her?
And ask her if she is willing to go out with you.
I think Lyss is the type who is not sure or undecided, and shes young, air-headed type who thinks she has lot of opportunities, confidence about herself being able to get many relationships easily. As you said yourself, she is cute. Thats it she is cute, she thinks alot guys will go for her because she knows she is cute. Generally Girls/women, in developed nations are picky and independant, they can choose whatever they want, and can easily be the players if they are cute. So you see, pretty, cute, girls are hard to get. They believe they have so many opportunities for better guys, they can jump onto other guys if they feel like it. Plus she seems like the girlish drama girls. Asian girls who are cute in developed countries think they are all great, most of them want white guys, even though they don't want to admit it.
Benson, she shouldn't be serious about relationships, you and the girls are so young. Don't expect too much out of it. Just play it through and see how it goes, don't make yourself depressed about it. think of it as some light-hearted game. if you lose, you will be fine as it is just an unimportant event you just had, if you win, then good on you. Really just think of dating as a joke, don't take it seriously.
>>398
No..just no. There's too much risk and dignity involved by chasing her down despite knowing she likes someone else. Some girls may like that kind of thing and fall for your straightforward approach, but for others, it could prove to be quite the dilemma and you will be stuck in the sympathy/rebound trap. In this trap your feelings be toyed with to no end...not a pretty sight.
@Benson: >>400 (get) is quite right. Lyss is the undecided, airheaded type girl. That being said, it would be meaningless to start a relationship with her unless you're into all that mushy, shallow, doting-on-the-girl stuff. You will never know what she truly thinks of you unless you ask her out- which is a bad idea considering she likes someone else. Being an asian girl myself, I know that even then, we will tend to be quite coy about our feelings.
Focus your attention on manda.
greatt on my birthday i have to find out the guy that lyss likes..
btw >>396 you remind me of the guys who use to pick on me, i remember they said the exact same words. "your such a looser! you have no chance!" but i guess it turned out the opposite since they are so scared of me now... (long story) anyway >>396 if you got nothing good or nice to say then dont bother saying anything.
>>400 i think what you said is very true, shes 2 years younger then me so... yeah. the guys name is tony and i asked lyss what his last name was... she got all worried and started asking me "...? what u wanna know? u wanna stalk hin LOL!" so i just said "just wondering if i know him". ok i'm in the mood of fustration cos this guy looks REALLY palthetic and a 12 year old kid! and his got a xanga site and talks about lyss as well... like "omg sweet talk isn't working with lyss.. HELP!?" WTF is that?!! i cant beleive lyss likes this guy!! its really ANNOYING!!
i REALLY REALY want to just move on and focus on manda instead... cos this guy has gone out with LYSS and prob more then once from what i have read...okk i gotta calm down at the moment.
>>398 i understand what you mean, i should be going till the end but the thing is.. i dont want to waste time on lyss if shes likes this TONY guy soo much, i have this problem of giving up easily which i think is happening right now. but to be honest, i compared lyss and manda, personaly i like manda more cos shes nicer, same intrest and i can tell her about anything and she wont be freaked about it, she actuali helps out. i mean with lyss right, she'll prob think i'm EMO again and then go with the silence thing "...." so i really want to just move on. what do you guys think?
It's great that you're starting to think on your own. You have a much clearer image of yourself, (and her); and it's good that you feel that way, and it means you have the guts to move along.
Since you've expanded a little more on the situation, it makes sense. It's too bad she's going for the other kid and she can't see you; she'll regret it later. As for you, now that you know more about each personality, either way you decide, you'll do fine... as long as you keep practicing those moves. Good luck B.
>>402
just like i've been saying all along.. she wants to be surrounded by people who dote endlessly on her all the time as >>401 said. hell, i'll bet if you wore black socks to school, she would call you emo. i'm glad you've finally come to that realisation. a relationship with her would only last a month at most. she doesn't have the capacity or attention span to have a serious relationship.
i could tell her character from your chat logs straight away. although i guess it helps that i'm a girl myself. seriously, there is something wrong with her, not you.
Finally, a female post that we can trust!
it seems that manda also has someone she likes, i kinda dont wanna go tomorow to meet lyss for some reason. the thing with me and manda is, she knows almost everything about me, we talk alot and mostly about our life. i told her about last year how i use to get bullied around at school and that i tried to kill my self, i was surprised to find her not freaked out about it and rather said "must be painful last year for you" and i told her how i came back and started standing up for my self and helping others. she says "i think its great that your helping people with the same situation, make a difference!"
at the moment i really dont know what i am thinking, its either give up everything or work harder to get manda. latley when i talk to manda she says "take care...", but i doubt it means anything. well i will see what happens tomorow because i reckon i'm in the stage of confusing my self.
o btw it turned out that TONY guy lyss like is a player, and she likes him cos his REALLY REALLY good at clarinet... PFT
So.........who do you really love? Yuo should check up on Aya!
Tokyo, Aya is long gone.
>>408 very true
i beleive this thread is coming to an end, lyss just messaged me saying she wont make it so i wont need to do now... havn't seem manda online for a while either, this really is coming to an end xD
>>and his got a xanga site and talks about lyss as well... like "omg sweet talk isn't working with lyss.. HELP!?" WTF is that?!! i cant beleive lyss likes this guy!! its really ANNOYING!!
Delicious irony.
>>and she likes him cos his REALLY REALLY good at clarinet
"Duh" is the proper phrase to use here, I think. If you want to sit on Lyss' couch naked while she listens to you improvise for hours, you're going to need a musical instrument. It is a sure-fire way into the female heart. You know, savage breasts and all.
Disregard that, I suck cocks.
hmm i was talking to manda last night about tony, she kept saying sorry taht she forgot my bday lol! even just then i got a message from her apologizing about forgetting it xD
her birthday is coming up so i have decided to play the piano for her on that day, too bad i cant play it in front of her so i can only do it over the phone ~~"