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429 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:38

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430 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:38

Imagine getting this mad about quotes, or people having opinions about politics.

This is what happens when you're in the habit of talking in an extremely structured/restrictive way for too long. Can't accept anything different. But it can be good to have an open mind and really listen to different perspectives.

When Galileo was right about the earth revolving around the sun, instead of the other way around (which was accepted as true at the time), he was attacked for thinking differently, even though he was right. People wanted their comforting lies instead of thinking critically to find the truth. Nobody likes their worldview to be challenged.

431 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:40

>>430 imagine being this fucking dumb and american that you think people are mad at you for "having opinions" and not for being an obnoxious dumbass.

432 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:41

Great comeback. Ignore what someone says and call them dumb. If someone isn't exactly like you, they're dumb! Or a troll!
Quoting text from a post isn't "meme arrows" either.
Are those boxing kangaroos? Nice.

433 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:42

So talking about anything that isn't completely boring is obnoxious? We should all just discuss today's weather, or some flavor-of-the-month TV show you're watching, huh? Riveting!

434 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:43

>>432 i'm not talking about quoting text from a post you dense fucking retard i'm talking about when you completely ignore the actual text of the post and do this twumbler tier

me: reasonable, objectively correct thing
me: i have obviously won


435 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:44

Nobody ever really even talks about the Eternal September other than when someone refers to mad dates in the future... it's like back in the day when people would start threads on /m/ and say "What's /mu/'s thoughts on _____?" and the regulars would chuckle and say "Why don't you ask them". One of those telltale signs that they stumbled in from the rain.

436 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:46

>>433 American politics are not only boring as hell but quite distasteful. Nothing but idiots screeching at each other over pee-pee sex tapes and arguing over who the "literally hitler" of the month is. People have expressed this to you multiple, multiple times, and you ignore it and continue pretending dqns just "can't handle alternative views" or whatever.

437 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:46

I only made a post about list threads, then people made it about me. It was a quick way to summarize what happened, using the format that you have a problem with. But you apparently had no problem with the posts leading up to it? And are people just going to ignore the death threats? That's not okay either.

Look at >>372- and the following responses. I didn't make it about me, I was just noticing how weird it is for many threads to have very little interaction. Then posting devolved into personal attacks. But that's not what it was originally about.

438 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:49

Man my balls are so sweaty, don't you just love to squat down when your underwear is sodden with sweat and take a right good huff?

439 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:51

Meh, death threats on the internet aren't so bad, no big deal.

440 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:53

Okay then. If you had your way, what would /dqn/ consist of? List threads of Wikipedia articles of people whose names sound like funny words? People posting old aa art or anime stuff? That's it? You really want it to be so restrictive that people can't post about anything else? How come? Or do you think posts like >>438 are better? Yikes.

I never mentioned any of those things. Additionally, topics such as deep ecology are not even American. Deep ecology, especially Linkola-based ideology, is Finnish. Do you think Finland is in America?

I am not talking about Trump or Hillary. I am talking about Linkola. I suppose Ted is American. But it has less to do with American fad politics and more to do with general dislike of modernity, which is not an inherently American phenomenon. I do occasionally express dislike for US-specific things, but not the "pee-pee sex tapes" or "literally hitler" things you mentioned.

Why do you think it's wrong to be conscious of current political issues? Should we all just resort to escapism and not work on anything? It seems like a lot of people here like escapism, such as anime or games. But what does that accomplish? When there are problems in the world, ignoring them won't fix anything.

441 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:53

I wonder what espeon-chan is up to right now.

442 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:53

Still doesn't make it okay.
Who's that?

443 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:54

>>437 Yeah. >>374,375 were me. As you can see, we again agree on the fundamental truth of the matter yet you carry on far past the point when the discussion stopped being interesting, trying to turn that agreement into an opportunity to proselytize on how you personally think DQN should be like.

It's like you think pointing out banal, obvious things makes you some kind of visionary and then start acting like a college freshman who came back to his hometown for the summer and had to spend the entire time telling everyone why everything they're doing is bad and wrong. That is what's obnoxious about your posts, I physically could not give less of a fuck about your extremely basic and sterile opinions if you paid me to.

444 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9095 23:56

What are your political views? What are your values in life? I'd like to know. It's good to hear from other perspectives. Seriously.

445 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:04

I'd also like to point out that people can indeed not practice what they preach. For example, I drink, but I think alcohol is bad. That doesn't mean someone is a troll, or that they're schizophrenic, it just means they're not perfect.

So when people claim that posts are "disjointed" or whatever, sometimes people are conflicted or unsure of things, or sometimes they change their mind, or yes, sometimes people are indeed hypocritical. We're only human.

446 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:05

>>440 Did you mean to direct that >>435? That was me and I didn't say anything about what you're talking about. I meant somebody keeps saying that we go on and on and on about the Eternal September, but in all honesty it rarely comes up in the conversation. Talk about anything, I don't give a fuck, personally a lot of people's opinions and their belief that it matters (on this particular text board of all places) just makes me chuckle is all

447 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:14

I post on anonymous boards about these things because discussing politics with friends, family, or coworkers can be stressful, especially when they're diametrically opposed to your views. Posting politics on social media, like Twitter, is an easy way to have a bad time, with trolling, doxxing, harassment, people trying to get you fired, etc.

/pol/ is too /pol/ for me. Tumblr is too tumblry. Reddit censors people and it has that shitty "I fucking love science XD" attitude. Twitter has the "twitter do ya thing!" brigading/mob mentality problem. Instagram is just about pretending your life is cooler than it really is. Facebook is garbage. None of those places are suitable for serious discussions about ideology or political views.

Sometimes you just want to discuss issues, but there isn't necessarily a perfect place to do so. So you settle with some not-really-great place to post.

This is far from the only place I post online. But it's the only place I talk about these kinds of issues.

Identity is complicated. You have different titles. A single person can be a man, a son, a father, a husband, an employee, a coworker, an event organizer, a friend, a patient, a customer, an acquaintance, a car in traffic, and a stranger. It depends on how you know that person. To different people, that same person seems like a completely different person, because of their roles. They do not conduct themselves the same in every relationship. Social media is similar. Not all discussions or posts are suitable for all platforms. But sometimes, there isn't a great place for certain things. A lot of social media structures lead to pigeonholing, and there isn't always a right answer of where to put something.

448 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:42

>>447 Man, that's time I won't get back, what did any of that have to do with the post you're replying to? Why is this you only place you talk about these kinds of things, surely the least relevant place for it out of all the places you post online?

449 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:46

From >>446:

>people's opinions and their belief that it matters (on this particular text board of all places) just makes me chuckle is all

From >>435:

>t's like back in the day when people would start threads on /m/ and say "What's /mu/'s thoughts on _____?" and the regulars would chuckle and say "Why don't you ask them".

You're saying this isn't the right place for it. I'm saying there is no right place for it. Besides, what harm is there in talking about that kind of stuff here?

450 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:49

>>444 I actually considered making a thread like "outline your political views ITT" but decided against it, figuring it would get too heated. I guess I can just do it here. Plus, I think our perspectives are more similar than you might think.

Note, all copulaic(x is/are y) statements to follow should be read as if they started with "In my opinion,...", I just can't be assed writing it every time.

Anyway, in my teens, I would have at points variously called myself a Communist, or a Trotskyist, or a Fascist, partially out of a teenage desire to be edgy but also because of, at least I thought so at the time, an attraction to ideologies with a strong, centralized authority. However I realized later on that it wasn't the strong authority I was attracted to but rather the revolutionary utopianism of those ideologies, all of which seek to deconstruct the modern capitalist system and build something new and better(from the perspective of the ideology itself) in its place. I've since become disillusioned with all of them after realizing that they still have the fundamental problem of quashing people into cogs in a vast machine of state. I do still find that revolutionary utopianism attractive, though.

Nowadays, I refuse to call myself an anything-ist. Isms mean being fettered by ideological purity and being forced to approach every problem not from the perspective of "what is the best thing to do here" but rather "what would a perfect *ist do here"?

Fundamentally, I believe people ought to be free to do what they like without interference from the government, as long as it doesn't harm others (this would extend to causing indirect harm, such as littering or polluting). Economic growth ought to be secondary to the health and wellbeing not just of citizens but of the environment. If we take it as axiomatic that the primary concerns of the state are the security, health, and overall wellbeing of its citizens, then education and healthcare ought to be subsidized. Since citizens already contribute part of their income to pay for their collective security(ie, they fund the military with their taxes), I don't think funding the other two as well is that big of a stretch. Fully funding them 100% for whoever wants them might not be feasible in as big a country as America but you lot could probably still afford to partially subsidize them as well.

Building on the collective security aspect, I disagree with the statement that "violence is never the answer", but it should be a last resort. Both states and individuals should have the right to defend themselves from aggressors.

There probably are fundamental biological differences between the races and genders, but rather than trying to erase racism and sexism by pretending there aren't, we should embrace them as part of the diversity of the human species.

I do sympathize with migrants and refugees seeking to build a better life in another place, however most people advocating the hardest for open borders and unlimited immigration quotas are capitalist elites seeking to poison the well of public discourse by presenting it as an issue of race to disguise the fact that they're making huge profits off those people. The ones that do work drive down the cost of labor and reduce wages across the board, the ones that don't work and instead receive welfare or something still necessarily use that welfare money to purchase goods and services, which basically turns the welfare which was made with good intentions to keep people from starving and dying in the street like they used to, into an indirect subsidy of their businesses and enterprises.

continuing in next post since this ended up being too long

451 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 00:50


Sexuality is a spook, and at its core is just another ism that leads to tribalistic thinking. Just fuck who you want to fuck and leave each other alone about it. It's not super important.

Religion is a spook, and mostly a tool for enforcing social cohesion via shame and encouraging ingroup-outgroup thinking. However people should be free to believe what they want, as long as they don't use it as an excuse to harm others.

Discussion and debate, especially of politics, should occur with the goal of discovering the fundamental truth or best course of action of a particular matter, not simply proving yourself right and your "opponent" wrong. Sometimes you may truly be objectively right and your "opponent" objectively wrong, but using that as a foil to develop your own viewpoint and reach a mutual understanding is also part of the course of a proper debate.

452 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 01:04

I might address more of your points later, but for now, on the topic of sexuality: I think people spend too much time talking about sexuality and LGBT stuff, to the point of it being a "distraction" issue (though that might seem paranoid), and not enough time discussing other issues. It's like, democrats and republicans will debate whether they support gay marriage, but they won't talk about the pitfalls of capitalism, consumerism, how to fix poverty or climate change, etc. So it's a safe issue to bring up, regardless of their stance on it. That being said, I'm against degeneracy in a lot of ways, since I'm pro-family values and all that.

But I also feel like it's a case of a prisoner decorating their cell walls. By that, I mean people who are powerless to change or discuss other meaningful aspects of their lives fixate on things that they can change/do: pronouns, sexuality/gender identity, etc. People who are powerless, unhappy, etc. cling to the few things they feel like they have control over, and then they obsess over them, rather than working towards other things that might seem insurmountable. Sexuality is not the biggest problem in life right now, but many shift goalposts and talk about it like it's the only thing in life because they feel like they can't do anything else.

I also feel like some people only claim to be LGBT for attention, since social media makes people think that you're better if you have more friends, likes, comments, etc.

It's also used as a political weapon now too, like "this guy said 'faggot' once 10 years ago, let's get him fired" but the ulterior motive is that the person actually supports a political party they dislike, and the "homophobic" thing is just a farce.

But it also seems like an agenda is being pushed, since there is a lot of anti-white/anti-traditional rhetoric in the mainstream media now, and people are encouraging abortions, not having kids, being gay, etc. But meanwhile, the same media outlets are pushing for mass immigration. I'm not a neocon or a republican, since they're anti-environment and pro-capitalism and shit, but at the same time, I can't help but feel like there's an concerted effort to push for mass immigration. It's not about diversity, it's about capitalism. Need more people from other countries to increase sales to make fatcat shareholders happy. But it also feels like population replacement. I don't like that.

453 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 01:20

>>452 Yeah, that's what I was getting at. I don't have a problem with LGBT people per se(I'm not exactly straight as an arrow myself), but I feel like LGBT issues get disproportionate coverage in the media and public discourse.

I really like your second paragraph, and the statement that no matter what one's actual stance is, LGBT issues are a "safe" issue to bring up because getting people riled up about other people's genitals and their choice of who to rub those genitals on keeps them from getting riled up about how their suffering is being exploited by the capitalist elites to make massive, unthinkable profits that they'll never see even a fraction of a cent of because it's sitting in a bank account in the Cayman Islands or something.

454 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 01:26

I used to be a boob guy but recently starting to appreciate ass and legs as well


455 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 01:34

Put it another way: I'm a male, my preferred sexual partner is other males. I won't try to hide that, but neither is it the ALL ENCOMPASSING CORE of my personality and worldview. It's just one of many things that make me "me", but for some people it feels like that's all there is to them. It feels like that for a lot of straight people too, we just don't think of it in those terms. Being overly obsessed with sex in general, where to have it, who to have it with, etc etc is just another symptom of the poison of modernity.

456 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 01:59

If you can't hear the "subete ni kaeru" at the beginning, it's not loud enough.

457 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 02:20

I've only had sex with girls before, but I sometimes have gay thoughts, even though I've never been with a guy. I might consider getting with a guy at some point, or maybe not, but at the end of the day, I still want to eventually have a wife and kids, not a husband or boyfriend. But I'd say that having gay thoughts doesn't mean your identity is being gay. I think we are all hardwired for heterosexuality.

I still see my occasional gay thoughts as a problem, not something to accept. Some people have anxiety, some people have down syndrome, some people have gay thoughts. I think it's a mental illness and it shouldn't be normalized.

The most fundamental purpose of our lives is to reproduce. It's in our DNA. Besides, then you can continue your genes and raise people who will have your views and whatnot. Teach them to care about what you care about. Teach them your trade early in life so they'll be even better at it than you are when they're your age. If you're a programmer, teach them programming early. If you're a welder, teach them welding early. Teach them your political views too. Teach them your religion. Contribute good people to the world instead of letting it decay even further. The world needs more good people. Keep your legacy going. That's really important, don't you think? But you can't do that if you're gay.

I still feel no association to the LGBT community, because it's largely anti-religion, pro-immigration, and basically pro-flavor-of-the-month leftist issues. Democrats seem to think they own the votes of minorities and gays. Not mine though.

And shit like pride parades are degenerate as hell.
"Hey, how can we convince people that gays are just normal people too?"
"Let's have huge floats with rainbows and dicks and borderline nudity and weird-ass costumes!"
Yeah, that'll show 'em.

Also, cutting your dick off and taking hormone pills doesn't magically turn a guy into a girl.

458 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 03:22

>anti-religion, pro-immigration
>flavor-of-the-month issues

lmao seriously, you realize history goes back for millenia and you can consult about it on wikipedia and your local library, where you can find that people were talking about being against religion and in favor of migration for centuries

the rest of the post, i don't know if you are LARPing as a gay/bi guy in denial, or if you just get the ocassional gay thought (pretty much everyone gets those) which you dismiss as the devil making you horny for men but there's so many naturalist fallacies and fascist shibboleths (try using degenerate less, retard) I can read before growing extremely tired of the entire thing. if i wanted to argue with spooked simpletons, i'd go to reddit.

and I don't watch much TV or any of that stuff, but I agree with the perspective that LGBT acceptance "movements" are easily co-opted by liberals who are obviously invested into not shedding a single penny for anyone in need. "gays are chill like chillary" empty idpol rhetoric can go die in a fire and this "family values" garbage this fucking neonazi is "stealthily" recruiting with, too, can literally burn in the dumpster fire of ideology where it belongs.

459 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 03:36

Wow, people did something in the past! That means my views are invalid now. Better give up caring about immigration because you said it's on Wikipedia! I can't have opinions and values when something on Wikipedia says otherwise.

Besides, how come liberals are only anti-Christianity? You bend over backwards for other religions.

>LARPing as a gay/bi guy in denial

Nope. Consider this: I can smoke a cigarette without being a smoker. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. I drink beer even though I think alcohol is bad. A cancer patient has cancer, but that doesn't mean they ENJOY having cancer. It's just something they have. They did not choose to have it, but that doesn't mean they should want to have it.

Not every person who plays games calls themselves a gamer. Not everyone who goes to the gym calls themselves a weight lifter or bodybuilder. I've had gay thoughts before, and I've looked at gay porn. But I've had a wide range of negative thoughts. I've had suicidal thoughts in the past, but should people tell me that my identity is being a suicidal person, based on fleeting thoughts that are no longer relevant? Should my identity revolve around bad thoughts I've had occasionally, or should I just acknowledge that it's a flaw and move on?

>you dismiss as the devil making you horny for men

Not what I wrote. You're trying to say I said something I didn't.

>try using degenerate less, retard

Sorry for having a moral compass?

>if i wanted to argue with spooked simpletons, i'd go to reddit.


>I don't watch much TV or any of that stuff

Neither do I. Do you really think you're so special and different?

>this "family values" garbage

Oof. Did you grow up with a mom and dad? Did they function well? I grew up in a broken home to degenerate atheist liberals who had all sorts of problems, in an extremely liberal area, possibly the most ultra-leftist areas in the country, and that has pushed me to realize that the nuclear family, religion, and conservatism (but not in a neocon sense) is important for society, for a number of reasons. Having a good upbringing during your formative years really shapes who you are, and that's why family values are important.

>fucking neonazi

White people who don't have themselves are nazis, apparently. Okay, buddy. I'm also mixed race. I think I've mentioned that before. But the fact of the matter is that there is a ton of hatred towards white people these days. That's not okay. If you don't think it's okay to hate black people, then how come you think it's okay to hate white people? What's with the double standard?

>burn in the dumpster fire of ideology where it belongs.

You're wishing death on people who disagree with you but apparently I'm the neo-nazi. Got it. No self-awareness at all.

460 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 03:50

I feel like degenerates double down and say that morality is bad because they are immoral, rather than admitting that they're wrong. Liberalism is so deeply rooted in selfishness and hedonism. Liberals want government handouts, they want to fuck whoever they choose and ignore their duty to pass on their genes to future generations, they want to legalize drugs so they can get high, they want to do everything they can to live for pleasure and dodge responsibilities.

461 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 04:18

Oh gee, here I am again trying to have a discussion in good faith (I was >>450,451,453,455 but not >>458) when iOS-chan decides that the time for good faith is over and now it's time to break out the "owning the libs" personality. Guess that's what I get for taking someone at face value when they say they want good faith political discussion when what they really want is to win "converts" to their "cause".

462 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 04:19

You're not as intelligent as you think.

463 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 04:22


>now it's time to break out the "owning the libs" personality

It's called alcohol. I'm too polite when I'm sober, but I speak my mind after a few drinks.

464 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 04:47

Things that are bad:
Demagogue ideology, e.g. "Feel the Bern!"
Mainstream media outlets
Libertarianism, or just the idea of having too much freedom to do bad things in general
Thinking freedom is more important than forcing people to do what's virtuous and right
Disposable culture, disposable products, disposable everything
Unsustainable economic growth
Big oil
Big pharma and trying to throw a pill at every problem rather than seeing how depression etc. are often a symptom of society being fucked up
Military industrial complex
Prison industrial complex
Ego-driven faux-philanthropy and NGOs
Creating a permanent underclass for cheap labor
Extreme income inequality
Overuse of technology
Population replacement
Mass immigration
Sexual deviancy
Social media
Being a genetic dead-end
Video games
Data mining
Proprietary software
Being weak and permissive and tolerating/accepting things that shouldn't be tolerated
Gun control

Things that are good:
Family values
Traditional gender roles
Being an active member of your church, local clubs, etc.
Renewable energy
Small communities
Benevolent authoritarianism
Recognizing some of the merits of collectivism (but not to an extreme degree) and knowing your place in your community
Worker's rights
Actual culture -- festivals, traditional garb, food, religion, art, etc -- not bugman shit like games, superhero movies, malls, and other modern bullshit that sucks the life out of people
Having a sense of purpose
Helping your local community
Conservation of nature, like protected forest areas
Helping people in need, but not creating a welfare state
Support networks (mental health treatment, homeless shelters, women's shelters for victims of domestic abuse, job placement agencies, services for disabled people, etc.)
Minimal tech usage
Weight lifting
Continual learning, even after graduation
Open source

465 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 07:38

"You're saying..." no I'm not, read over the things I said again, the focus of my posts was referring to comments that we keep talking about September '93

466 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 08:23


>the focus of my posts was referring to comments that we keep talking about September '93
>t's like back in the day when people would start threads on /m/ and say "What's /mu/'s thoughts on _____?" and the regulars would chuckle and say "Why don't you ask them".

yeah, that's totally about September '93

467 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 10:01

Undercover Nigger

468 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 11:59

mfw "current thought" means "huge fucking list"

469 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 12:11

remember kids, don't drink and dqn

470 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 12:31

>>466 Yes, as in, a certain thing that most boards everywhere have where regulars can identify users less savvy with the local customs. Every now and then someone drifts in and wonders about the timestamps here, and that's the only time it's mentioned. That was my original point, in response to the person who said we keep going on about it.

471 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 14:41

suddenly wobble bass

472 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 14:56

Let's make pizza

473 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 15:01


> when iOS-chan decides that the time for good faith is over and now it's time to break out the "owning the libs" personality

You can't argue with shitty nazis in good faith, that's why they need to fuck off.

474 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 17:15

"...that tree is far away..."

475 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 17:36

oh its an actual place

476 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 18:44

bring back compiz firey cubes ubuntu video tutorials to youtube

477 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 19:56

Yeah, I'm totally a nazi even though I'm white and Mexican. In another thread, people were calling me "beaner" but apparently I'm also a nazi too, according to morons like you.

Instead of trying to understand my perspective, you're just going to dismiss me and use incorrect labels.

I miss those days. Spinnan cubez. I used to use Compiz Fusion in OpenSUSE back in the day. Instead of a cube, I actually had it set up as a sphere, or maybe it was a cylinder. I don't really remember. But there was a skybox, and there were glxgears and dolphins in the center when you went to switch between virtual desktops. And fire particle animations when you minimized a window. And wobbly physics for when you moved a window, making it look like it was made of jello.

What a waste of battery life.

478 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 20:05

Okay >>464 what are your thoughts on asceticism?

479 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 20:21

Maybe asceticism isn't the right word, but just general anti-hedonism. Too many people these days just live for pleasure. There's more to life than bread and circus.

I don't like the following things:
•People who don't go to the gym -- you don't have to be in perfect shape, but you have to at least try to improve yourself
•People who don't read books, or only read shitty books, like scifi, fantasy, romance, etc. rather than books about ideology, history, religion, or other important issues. There is a big difference between someone who reads Chomsky/Nietzsche/Linkola/etc and someone who reads Harry Potter or Ready Player One. Some books make you think, others are just useless ways to pass the time.
•People who enjoy TV, movies, video games, etc.
•People who constantly talk about how "bored" they are, and think being entertained is the only important thing in life
•People who don't do anything productive in their time off work/school
•Extreme wealth is corrupting, because then it changes how you live your life. You can have a mansion, sports car, golden chandeliers, fancy silverware, etc. None of that shit really matters. It's just materialistic garbage. Materialism and excess wealth are bad.
•Not having a sense of purpose in life and just floating around doing nothing in particular
•Hyper-sexuality, fueled by modern media, Tinder, etc.
•People who consume, but don't create. People who watch movies, eat comfort food, etc. but won't write something, won't program something, won't paint something, won't make things on their own. It's very liberating to make things.

You don't have to be 100% pure with asceticism, but being overly-indulgent is really bad. Modern western culture is extremely indulgent.

Here's an example of someone I know in real life: he's my age and he calls himself a gamer and a stoner. He plays games because it's fun and entertaining to him. He smokes weed to feel good. He defines his entire identity around self-absorbed pleasure-seeking. What a useless existence.

I'm somewhat hypocritical in the sense that I drink. I think alcohol is indulgent/hedonistic, so it's something I need to be aware of. But that doesn't change the way I feel about it. It doesn't make what I say invalid. You can be aware of a problem instead of pretending that everything you do is perfect. I feel like liberals nowadays are too keen on trying to accept all of their problems instead of working on them. Like fat acceptance, LGBT acceptance, etc -- why not try to work on your problems instead of giving up and forcing everyone to tolerate them?

480 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 22:12

I just spent ~4 hours in traffic while buying a toaster oven, a loaf of bread, and a hunk of cheese. This snack I am about to eat had better be fucking incredible.

481 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 22:16

4 hours?! How? I live a couple minutes away from grocery stores.

482 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 22:16

So was it worth it?

483 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 22:22

So do I. The place with a deal on toaster ovens was 20 miles in the opposite direction, though, and for most of the highway I didn't get out of second gear. I was slightly smarter with my road choice on the way back, but by then it was rush hour.

It's just okay. I got to the grocery store so late that all the newly baked bread was gone, so this loaf is a bit stale. Maybe I should moisten it a little.

On the plus side, I am now the proud owner of a semi-industrial toaster oven that uses so much wattage that it probably violates my lease every time I turn it on.

484 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 22:35

What the fuck is wrong with you people?

485 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 22:40

With all that hassle, I would've just ordered in online instead.

Is it really a good deal if you have to spend money for gas and wear and tear on your car?

Do you live in a rural area of something? I can't imagine driving that far for anything.

Why do you say that?

486 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:04

...so you're a right-wing sjw, even use most of their same terminology and talking points, but your main problem with your left-wing counterparts isn't that they want to legislate morality and use it as a means to control and pacify people but rather that you disagree with their specific morality? Yeah, fuck right off. You'll not get one single more attempt at good faith engagement from me.

487 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:06

The apartment complex I'm at doesn't take packages; I didn't know it was going to be this much hassle when I left; the deal I got was for in-store pickup only...

Seriously, this sort of thing is why I am >>394 . I am a mostly normal, boring individual. If there's a part of the story which I've left out, and which you can't reconstruct by guessing "why would a mostly normal, boring individual do this?", then it's probably not important.

488 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:12

>>486 welcum 2 the club

489 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:16

I want to talk to the Club's manager.

490 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:22

>>489 slaps your ass

491 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:38

2008: hah, this smartphone thing will never catch on. imagine the day when your phone of all things can get malware on it?
2018: ukrainian hackers got su on my smart toaster and in the process of using it to mine bitcoin, burnt my house down

492 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:48

Right wing? Yeah, sure. I guess. But not a typical neocon who only cares about tax rates and pretending that climate change is a myth. Those kinds of "right wing" politicians are useless and nothing like my views. SJW? Hell no. Maybe by SJW, you simply mean someone with strong convictions. Then sure, I guess by that definition, I am. But if you mean in terms of actual social justice and gender stuff, no way. I am diametrically opposed to that kind of ideology.

To call me a right-wing SJW really demonstrates your inability to understand what I'm saying. It's an easy way for you to be dismissive without having to think very hard about it.

>legislate morality

Legalizing and normalizing degeneracy is not "legislating morality." You're so far down the leftist rabbit hole that you don't even see how immoral your values are.

Despite being raised by and around degenerates, I've come to accept that traditional Christian values are great. with a couple twists, of course. And not that soft beta Christian "we accept everybody" brand of garbage either.

>use it as a means to control and pacify people

I'll never understand the "pacify people" argument. Are you saying people are so unstable that they need legal weed to stop themselves from doing bad? If people have lives full of meaning, they won't need pacifism. They will have purpose. A lot of the hedonistic things people do nowadays is sort of like a negative coping mechanism for dealing with how awful modern life is. How about we try and correct that and make life worth living instead of having to use a band-aid feel-good thing on top of a flawed society?

>you disagree with their specific morality

Moral relativism is a load of shit. Things are either moral or immoral. Moral absolutism. None of this humanist, secular, appeal-to-moderation, "everyone is right in their own way despite contradicting each other" logical fallacy. If I say 2+2=4 and someone else says 2+2=6, then fence-sitters would claim it's in between, so surely it must be 2+2=5. Or some people, who are afraid to take a stance, would say it's both 2+2=4 AND 2+2=6 simultaneously, because they're afraid to offend people. In reality, some people are objectively right, and some people are objectively wrong. Modern liberalism is immoral, plain and simple.

Just because something is normalized does not mean it's right. I could bring up the Galileo example again, or plenty of other things too. Even capitalism, pollution, consumerism, materialism, and mass media are normalized despite being terrible. Liberals think liberalism must be right because it's popular. Lots of popular things are awful.

People are rioting. People are extremely angry on social media. Drug usage and suicide rates are pretty high. You want to tell me that liberal America is just fine the way it is? Maybe you're from a different country, I don't know. But no matter where you are, I'm sure even you are able to see some of the problems with modern living.

>good faith engagement

Insulting me, ignoring my points (because I guess you don't have a comeback?), calling me a troll, etc. is not a "good faith engagement" by any stretch of the imagination.

You should still post your comments anyway, instead of writing and then deleting/not posting them.

You say you're a "normal, boring individual" but it's interesting to hear what you have to say. What's normal to you isn't normal to someone else. To you, it's routine. To someone else, it's different and interesting. Don't preemptively put yourself down. That's no good.

493 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9096 23:51

Why do people always think hackers are eastern european or Russian? Remember that US government organization called the NSA? Hello!

But even then, a lot of the real issue with security and privacy is the companies themselves, where, in one sentence in a 10,000 word EULA, they grant themselves the legal ability to spy on you and sell your personal data to advertisers using your IoT toilet.

I'm really less worried about muh Russian hackers, and more concerned about Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, etc. They have more power than most governments now.

494 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 00:12


495 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 00:16


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497 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 01:07

shit breaks in linux: hi, it looks like some shit broke. here's exactly where it broke and here's what your system did to fix it. would you like to send us an error report to help keep the same shit from breaking in the future? you can see here exactly what data is in the report, if you want.

shit breaks in windows: whups, some shit somewhere broke somehow :( abort/retry/ignore?

498 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 02:05

499 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 02:30

Shit breaks in plan9: it isn’t broken, the user is broken, cat cats files onto the console and the file you opened is an infinite special node like random or kprint, this console is over until the end of time or you externally kill cat.

500 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 03:01

There was a girl in my friend group in high school. It became clear at a certain point that she had developed a crush on me. Not realizing its magnitude, and also not desirous of a romantic relationship with her, I feigned ignorance. I feigned ignorance much longer than I should have, until a mutual friend called me out publicly for "being mean to her". As if the blame for the subject never explicitly coming up in conversation lay solely at my feet. Okay, whatever.

Honestly, she was a pretty cool person aside from that tension. But it never would have worked out between us. I like to think that healthy human beings are just naturally beautiful, or close enough to get the job done. And most of them are.

But not her.

It has been several years since we graduated and went our separate ways. According to Facebook, she is now happily married and raising a bright, energetic child. And she has somehow become even uglier than she used to be.


501 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 03:19

Too much processed food and lethargy in modern life. Fast food, cars instead of walking, soda... terrible stuff. Bad diet makes people look like trash.

502 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 03:45

>>500 nozaki?

503 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 08:59

so far:

middle manager tonegawa: favorite thing so far this season, very fun, not only full of highly aware self-parody but also neat on its own as a prequel telling the origins of gentei janken. probably wouldn't recommend to friends who haven't watched kaiji already though.

jashin-chan drop kick: shit, probably gonna drop. was excited for a guro-heavy comedy that reminds of dokuro-chan but it feels derivative as hell and cheaply animated.

sunoharasou: cute and comfy and hits me right in the /ss/, not much more to say

hataraku saibou: kesshouban-chan is cute, CUTE

these days it's rare for me to pick up even one seasonal anime, let alone 4, plus there's some others that looked interesting that i haven't started yet. have the good old days finally returned and anime stopped reclining?

504 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 09:16

>>503 Aw dang Jashin-chan looked quite good. I'm finally watching Haiyoru! Nyaruko-san, just working my way down my list forgetting why I added them until the OP plays!

505 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 09:54

>>479 Hmmm, sort of interesting, though I'm a bit disappointed that asceticism isn't what you actually meant. I'm on board with some of your points, to some extent, but what I see as the main flaw there is how many of the things you don't like are things "other people" do. Everyone is thrust into this world by chance and are given a finite amount of time on it, and everyone is stumbling around looking for their place and their purpose. I agree that it's a shame how some people choose to spend their precious time, but that includes other people who spend their time casting aspersions on the lifestyle choices of others instead of worrying about themselves. You might put your faith your own standards of morality and decent living, but no one human can set the bar for everyone/anyone else. It might seem like a good idea living to Christian values, but how much of those values come down to sour grapes? You mention Nietzsche, maybe you've read his Genealogy Of Morals - how often are the people who vilify extreme wealth and hyper-sexuality the same people who would love more money to buy nice things, who no one wants to sleep with?

506 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 09:55

It's a good thing to be fit and healthy, but I laugh at people who go to the gym - you're paying someone to let you run around and lift things in their shack! Why not just run around the streets/woods and lift trees and things ya silly billies?

507 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 09:59

>•People who consume, but don't create. People who watch movies, eat comfort food, etc. but won't write something, won't program something, won't paint something, won't make things on their own. It's very liberating to make things.

It's fun to create but the Internet's too full of people thinking their shoddy derivative piss is worth showing to other people. Especially fan art, 90% of fan art is hideously bad, made worse because it's not even an original idea!

508 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 10:34

>how often are the people who vilify extreme wealth and hyper-sexuality the same people who would love more money to buy nice things, who no one wants to sleep with?

I'm reminded of a Russel Brand quote, distasteful as I find the guy. Something about "when I was poor and wanted to talk about worker's lib, they said I was just a sour cunt; now that I'm rich and want to talk about worker's lib they call me a champagne socialist. I'm beginning to think they just don't want me to talk about worker's lib".

509 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 12:55

No, she was pretty healthy and took care of herself well enough. She just lost the genetic lottery above the neckline. Her mom was ugly too. I felt bad for them, but I couldn't look past it.

510 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 17:29


>how often are the people who vilify extreme wealth and hyper-sexuality the same people who would love more money to buy nice things, who no one wants to sleep with?

If I had more money, I'd put it towards useful things, not useless luxury things. Pay off college debt, get car repairs, etc. But there's a difference between having enough money for yourself and being corrupt by insane wealth, like being a billionaire. There are different effects at different scales of wealth.

I might be getting a more high-paying job soon, but even then, that's still not the same level of wealth I'm talking about here. And it still doesn't make me okay with capitalism.

And are you implying I'm a virgin or something? I've had girlfriends before. Even had a couple casual hookups. But I'm just so put off knowing that so many women my age have had a million dicks inside them.

One of my exes, a single mom now, named her kid (who she had with some other guy) after me. This is some sort of weird cuck shit and I don't like it one bit. But now she's talking about marriage and she wants some sucker to pay for her life, even after she became a single mom after sleeping with too many dudes.

I've been cheated on before too. We broke up after that. Modern relationships are fucked up.

One of my old friends, a super fat ugly feminist, date raped me when I went to hang out with her one time many years ago. I went to her place, we were just hanging out as friends, she brought us drinks, said something about if it was okay if she violated me, and then I blacked out -- after a single beer (she must have put something in it) -- and then, next thing I know, she was driving me back to my apartment and then tucked me into bed. But this bitch still complains about SJW garbage on social media. Oh yeah, and I came across her Tumblr once, and in the time span that I had one relationship with someone, she was with like half a dozen people (some men, some women). That ain't right.

I just want to have something that is seemingly unattainable -- a wife who is monogamous, loyal, wants to have kids, is Christian, right-wing, stable, isn't grotesquely fat, doesn't already have kids from some other guy, and hasn't slept with a million guys. I'm not expecting someone to be a virgin, but a lot of people fuck way too many people. My best bet would be to move to the countryside, but unfortunately cities tend to have way more tech jobs, so that's why I am where I am. Around here, shit like LGBT, open relationships, cheating, stepdads, etc is common. Completely dysfunctional.

511 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 18:15

If Mac DeMarco was a fed, he'd be Mac DeNarco.
If he was African American, he'd be Black DeDarco.
If he had a gun, he'd be Mac-10arco.
If he was a dog, he'd be Mac DeBarco.
If he was an addict, he'd be Crack DeRocco.
If he committed usury, he'd be Loan DeSharco.
If he stole money online, he'd be Hack DeBanco.

512 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 21:03

Big helicopters: no one gives a shit

Drones (small helicopters): oh my fucking god this is revolutionary stop the fucking presses this changes everything holy shit we have never seen anything like this before

513 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 21:30


514 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 21:38

uh oh...

515 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9097 21:40

all I'm saying is that current-day relationships are fucked up
modern life is trash, let's go back to traditional shit

516 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 01:32

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517 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 05:16

welp that was a nice 20 month run between "wow online retailing is the wave of the future" and "amazon warehouse slaves package dragon dildos for 20 hours a day and the only break they get is when jeff bezos descends from his sorcerer's tower to beat them with a garden hose"

518 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 05:35

every time something nice happens some rich fuck turns it to shit

519 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 06:13

Ejaculte money

520 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 07:10

What would you call this genre of music?
Rap? Trap? Horrorcore? Screwed and chopped?
If you know of any other songs or artists like this, please post them!

521 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 09:25

i mean of course when you're an alcoholic mexican who lives in the ghetto and make a living as a code monkey programming fart apps for iphone modern life seems pretty shit

have you tried not doing those things

522 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 09:55

>>520 It's a bit witch housey too, I think I'd maybe settle on Witch House or Hip Hop/Chopped 'n' Screwed for the genre tag, though your other suggestions fit too for sure. Have you listened to much witch house? It maybe doesn't all fit the bill for what you're looking for but there's some good stuff in there. Salem, White Ring and Spaceghostpurp come to mind. I don't really have much with rap on top in my collection but I'm certain more exists

523 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 10:05

"screwed and chopped" sounds like what i did to your mom last night HEYOOOOOO

524 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 10:51

bean me up scotty

525 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 11:58

>>523 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY4N5NOAsH0 I thought this was quite obscure, since I found it in a collection of old rock 'n' roll gems and deep cuts, I didn't know it was in Fallout

526 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 13:16

all the time, like every other day at least, i have to sleep and eat food and drink water

being alive is such a pain in the ass

527 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 13:21

beat me up scotty

528 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9098 13:22

just fuck my shit up scotty

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