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801 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 21:50

360 dynamic noscope
also lisp weenies seem to obsess over programming languages so much that they never really program anything of worth
obsessed with syntax and language design to the point of not being able to move on and solve higher-level issues, which is the whole point of programming

computing isn't about CPUs and scoping, it's about being able to talk to people on the other side of the planet, make robots water your plants, draw a picture, and so on

802 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 21:50

Keyword is "emulate", there.
And I didn't mean just extra features, I mean something more all-encompassing: static typing is a strict superset of dynamic typing; dynamic scope is a strict superset of lexical scope.

And yeah, CL gets a special shout-out, as always.

captcha: howrc, some kind of config file

803 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 21:52

Don't you dare hijack a normal programming conversation with /prog/ autism

804 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:01

You know what, maybe you're right. I've been doing lexical-in-dynamic scope with gensym and renaming, but that's not too different to dynamic-in-lexical scope with parameters. I'll have to think more on it, or maybe it's not that important. Either way I was too hasty in my assertion.

805 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:02

I actually made an anti-/prog/ post

/prog/ loves lisp and arguing over programming stuff, I said that they're missing the point of programming if they obsess over that

if you have an app, no one cares about the code underneath

what's more important is the idea, usability, price, UX, etc.

806 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:20

I don't care, this isn't /prog/, you don't need to remind me it exists by mimicking a /prog/lodyte.

If I want to talk about the specifics of programming, I will, and I won't appreciate someone telling me not to talk about programming and instead to talk about business, marketing, "product" etc.
I might be building a house, but conversations about real estate won't help me decide which screws to use.

captcha: shownen: shows for boys
damn these captchae are on a roll

807 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:22

What kinds of things have you made with programming? Have you made anything useful, or do you just endlessly play around with language concepts? Serious question. Go ahead and insult me some more, but I am asking real questions here.

808 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:29

Don't start meta-arguments.
I have a full-time job writing software. That's all I have to tell you. Thanks for derailing another otherwise-normal programming conversation.

809 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:37

i love you, mister anonymous guy from two and a half years ago

810 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:50

What kind of software?

Asking questions isn't a meta-argument. People don't agree on everything and that's perfectly ok.

811 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 22:56

I come from a different world of software. Web developers, apps, and other more modern stuff. These kinds of developers often aren't familiar with concepts like pointers or other lower-level things. Usually just use interpreted languages, with a couple exceptions. Lots of JS and lots of reliance of built-ins, libraries, and frameworks, instead of doing lots of things from scratch.

The people in my software development circles are often self-taught and only know higher-level languages. They might not know how to manually implement sorting algorithms, which is the kind of thing you might learn in computer science academia, but they know the idea of sorting and can just use a .sort() method. They might have never installed Linux, but their AWS instances run Linux. They don't know how to set up iptables, but they do understand the importance of firewalls and security, even if they don't know the specifics. Rather than being puritanical about language and design (and old school CS stuff in general), they just follow modern trends and make presentable products, perhaps without really having a great understanding of everything. Even so, these are the kinds of people who make the apps and websites you use every single day.

People having different backgrounds doesn't make someone a troll or an agitator, it just means they don't share your exact life experiences.

812 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 23:35

If you tweet into the abyss, the abyss might tweet back. -Freddy Nietzsche

813 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 23:38

old software happening to new people

814 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9111 23:56

What is your favorite social media platform?

815 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:13

>>814 (!!!!!)
All of them are shit!

816 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:15

If your only life experience is being a retard who can’t write actual code and makes javascript for a living you should just end your life experience now.

817 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:20

captcha: pone

818 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:22

Don’t forget redundant, technically wrong, full of misunderstandings of the base concept, and ruled by politics instead of actual codewriting ability.
Sisyphus is an apt way to refer to sysfs, so much of Linux is undocumented bullshit made for people with commit access to lock in their side projects like udev and now cgroups for systemd, it’s a miracle kdbus finally got canned when it did. Not to mention that many of AMD and Intel’s blogs are wrong or inadequate but dare you not try and replace them since they give money to the foundation.
GNU’s contribution can be summed up in a sentence: GNU awk has a command line flag that does the same thing as the awk substr function, but on a longer timescale.

819 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:34

yeah dude, lisp is ``actual code'', and modern web and apps are not
t. boomer

pretty hard to get employed or get invited to events if you don't use at least something

as flawed as it is, what alternative is there?

captcha: vi

820 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:37



Go back to /pol/ iOS-chan.

821 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:41


>the cheap shitty clones of already existing tools are shitty, what alternative is there

If only there were other UNIX derivatives that weren’t so terrible, but what kind of Solaris person would openbsd FreeBSD come up with such a plan9 thing? If only there were some MINIX HP-UX IRIX hero who would systemv save us from this.

822 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 00:47

Not understanding things now a point of pride among the kind of retards who use “frameworks” to make shitty websites that take up 3gb of memory to do text communication. This is what is called “disruption” and it is what happens when antiintelectualism takes over.

823 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 01:27

imagine being this pretentious about obsolete lisp shit

824 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 01:33

Ah yes, it was /pol/ that invented the term baby boomer. It's totally not a name for a generation of old people. Old people who use Fortran, COBOL, and Lisp, like the people on this site. Yes, I should go ``back'' to a site I don't even go to. Cool.

I hate to break it to you, but people in the real world use Linux, not your dinosaur/special snowflake shit.

825 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 01:48

>people in the real world use Linux

what fucking planet is this

826 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 01:56

I don't mean Linux on a personal computer. I mean if you're a web developer, your servers are gonna be running Linux, not some autistic bullshit like Minix like someone else mentioned.

827 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 01:56

Obviously macOS is the default OS for a computer if you're a developer. Linux on a laptop is a truly terrible experience.

828 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 04:23

how come the i9 9900k only has 8 cores instead of 9

829 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 05:07

How well do you personally accept compliments?

Is it paranoid or reasonable to think that, if someone says something nice about you, that they're either lying or making fun of you?

830 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 06:47


831 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 07:05

break break break break break break break break break break break break break break break break

832 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 07:10

dudes i'ts almost 10000 september wtf do we do thren

833 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 07:29

after 9999 it'll roll over to september 0000 like those old analog gas pumps

834 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 08:02

>>819,824 Why do you use `` and not “ or " ?

835 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 08:06

it's a /prog/ meme called ``faggot quotes''

836 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 08:14

>>835 I see...

837 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 08:23

"I see," said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.

838 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 09:32

Should've guessed the "stop talking about programming because it isn't important" guy was iOS-chan

839 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 09:51

Every post is made by iOS-chan. No exceptions.

840 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 10:01

shut the FUCK up ios-chan

841 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 13:16

pull your dick skin back for TURBO PEE MODE

842 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 13:35

I was circumcised though

843 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 13:41

>>842 You've never felt the pleasure of pulling your foreskin forward and clamping it shut when you piss so that it fills like a water ballon...

844 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 13:57

what the fuck, dude

845 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 15:58

in the past couple weeks my anxiety has spiraled out of control

846 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 17:07

basically my experience:
AJ: power to the people! money out of politics! down with globalism!
me: yeah! preach, brother!
AJ: yeah! we need to SMASH GLOBALISM because the elites are satanic pedophile vampires who want to steal your children's life energy!
me: uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
AJ: *rips off shirt and screams incoherently about 1776* FRIGGIN FROGS GAY p.s. buy a filter filters
me: uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

847 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 17:19

The difference between Alex Jones and run-of-the-mill media pundits who you've never heard of before (because they're not interesting) is that Alex Jones understands memes and viral marketing.

You think his regular political genuine beliefs are unique? hell no. It's just that he dresses them up with silliness.

It's the frogs and gay chemicals meme tier shit that makes anyone even pay attention to AJ in the first place.

You think he's dumb. I think he's a successful self-promoter.

848 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 17:59

You're missing out

849 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 18:27

You should be rising A LOT faster

850 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 18:35

>>847 My point was more like, he starts by saying something vaguely agreeable and then derails it at maximum speed into 360 noscope off the rails crazyville. If anything I just find him entertaining.

captcha: rome

851 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 19:37

"BRAVO HITS '95" would be an excellent name for my vaporwave project.

852 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 19:44

You are now the funk soul brother of http://4-ch.net/dqn/kareha.pl/1480168637/960

853 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 20:48

He really is.

854 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 20:58

It's time to go.

855 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 21:18


Those aren't mutually exclusive.

He's undoubtedly good at self-promotion and selling (just about literal) snake oil, but it sounds like 25 years of conning people has erased the line between his on and off show persona and beliefs. Sure, he plays it up sometimes still, but it sounds like he believes most of what he says in essence now too.

856 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 21:25

I am going to disrupt the tech industry, and by disruption I mean flash in the pan, and by flash in the pan I mean VC welfare.

857 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9112 23:26

>>852 Actually I think that post was me having the exact same thought around 600 days ago. I was reminded of it again recently what with all the controversy.

858 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 00:39

Sure, there are plenty of jobs where software engineering skills, business sense, UX etc. matter more than CS knowledge. CS courses should probably teach these skills more often. However, there's still plenty of problems out there that need CS to solve them. Plenty of innovation is still being done by the people writing CS papers.

It's not like the two worlds are mutually exclusive, either. Plenty of computer scientists write papers and also make practical implementations. It's never a bad thing to learn more. Why can't we all just get along and share knowledge?

859 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 00:40

wow I just re-read my post and realized I used the word 'plenty' way too often

my bad

860 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 01:00

obscure touhous no one cares about are literally-hus

861 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 07:42

862 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 09:06

I did the thing.

863 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 09:37

you installed gentoo?

864 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 12:40

It's all a matter of perspective. My real life friends, who don't post much online, tell me I'm antisocial and quiet. Meanwhile, I talk to tons of people online. Am I really antisocial if I talk to more people than they do?

865 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 14:16

I wonder how you make cool sound effects, like in this video:

866 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 14:34

My degree involved at least one administration class, one UX class and two software engineering classes, so there, I became an absolute office drone.

867 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 14:47

Why are there so many computer people on text boards? Not judging it as good or bad, just saying.

868 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 15:00

check this out:
you might be surprised

869 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 15:01

hmmm, actually you probably won't be surprised, because the font here gives it away lol

but not all fonts do, so in some cases, unicode can lead to situations where some domains look the same even though they're different

just not on sites with fonts that make certain characters look different

870 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 17:42

>>865 The art of sound design and foley is fascinating! Sometimes you use creative sound synthesis using programming and software, sometimes you use your imagination to record real objects. The trick is to think outside the box to make sounds more impactful or satisfying or gruesome for the effect you're trying to achieve. For example, snapping bundles of celery or slapping steaks together or bags of walnuts for bone-crunching combat sounds, or pouring bowls of soggy cornflakes for vomit sounds. The raptors in Jurassic Park used geese sounds. You can play with the pitch and tempo and various effects to create otherworldly yet organic sounds.

In your video, you could maybe make those mech sounds with like power drills, or balloon whippets for the hydraulic sounds.

871 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 17:44

I once got good anti-aircraft gun sound effects from pushing a big wooden table across a wooden floor so that it juddered with a big hard booming sound. Another time, for a sort of card game, ripping duct tape off a wall gives a much more satisfying sound for opening a booster pack than if I was to just to record the sound of me opening a real one.

872 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 17:55

That's not a hot take, though!

873 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 19:16

So feminists won't actually kill us, much as they hate us, but they're happy to harvest taxes from us.

874 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 19:52

So apparently the anti-sodium craze was wrong. I feel betrayed. It used to be that when I oversalted my food I'd think to myself "it tastes better AND I'm shaving off a few days of dementia and/or cancer treatment". Now I'm going to have to cut back.

875 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:00

So nanoka.

876 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:03

If you've been keeping up with the news lately, there's actually been a lot of violent rhetoric from leftists.
From the "Unite The Right 2" rally, which was actually just antifa rioting and breaking things on their own, with no one else there:

>"It takes bullets to bash fash."

Remember: according to antifa, anyone who isn't antifa is "fash," so they are inciting violence against anyone who isn't a left-wing extremist.
And let's not forget the blue checkmarks on Twitter saying shit like "punch a nazi" when they define nazi as anyone who isn't as lefist as they are.
This will backfire for leftists, as it pushes more and more people to the right, as the left is kind of imploding in on itself and there are liberals who are attacking other liberals for not being as liberal as they are.
I used to be a liberal. Not anymore. You will find that there are many people like me. Blue wave my ass.

877 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:08

You might think I'm making up the part about being a former liberal, but in high school I was forced to be a part of an anti-gun petition thing and I had to write about gay rights and stuff too. I also used to call myself a feminist, which was a cringe-worthy phase in my life. But that was all due to indoctrination, back when I didn't think for myself. Now, I've been pushed too far by other liberals to the point that I want nothing to do with liberalism anymore and I'm voting for Trump in 2020.

878 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:16

I wasn't gonna bring up politics, because most of you get mad when I do, but someone else posted about it. Don't get mad at me when I'm not the one bringing it up. If you post about politics here, I will probably respond. But don't blame it on me. If you don't want to see political responses, don't make political posts. It's really that simple.

879 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:24

god just shut up

880 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:27

If you don't want people to respond to posts about politics, then don't make posts about politics!

881 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:28

( ・-・) don't care >>867 *yawn*

882 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:28

( ・-・) i mean >>876 yawn

883 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:30

great comeback, you make a compelling argument

884 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:33

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885 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:34

Me: [polite post that has nothing to do with politics]
You: [post about politics]
Me: [response about politics]

Why post something if you're just going to get mad when someone responds? Do you not understand the point of communication?

886 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:44

>>885 except the "you"s are usually entirely different people

887 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:49

>>885 Yeah wtf dude there's four of us here!

888 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:49

doesn't matter

political posts will get political responses

it's that simple

889 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:51

You, me, Punctual Gomez, and DADDYCOOL?

890 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:53

Others making (unwarranted!) posts about politics without being asked to stop should not be seen as an invitation to do the same.

891 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 20:53

What are your thoughts on CuriousCat? I have only seen people on Twitter using it, but it seems interesting. But when would you send an anonymous ask on CuriousCat instead of @ing or DMing someone? What is the target userbase/use case?

892 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 21:35

It all fades away.

893 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 21:47

coconut water is a bad meme

894 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 21:58

the world is a bad meme

895 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 22:03

post your twitter handles you bakas

896 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 22:17

>>895 ...

897 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 22:23


898 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 22:28

that ain't a twitter handle

899 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 22:40

fuck jersey shore was a thing

900 Name: (*゚ー゚) : 1993-09-9113 22:55

Treat me gently.

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