Technology & Programming @ 4-ch

Technology & Programming @ 4-ch

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1: cock.li red alert (7) 2: What Text editor you guys use, and like? (20) 3: [CHAT] Fuck Discord! Matrix FTW! (28) 4: OS Wars Thread (18) 5: For those who know crap about ipads... (2) 6: Do you have any favorite tech Youtubers? (13) 7: [HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (416) 8: Windows software recommendations (15) 9: Computers should last a long time (29) 10: Which Linux distro should I use? (65) 11: I came here to hide from the god damn AI take-over. (8) 12: New features for BBS software (2) 13: I'm making a Textboard with an obsolete (2) 14: What would you consider the best linux distro in a post-internet world? (30) 15: ' (2) 16: Half-Life Episode 9999 (2) 17: Have you read your SICP today? (8) 18: so how do i solve... (4) 19: Is meta down? (4) 20: game programming books? (5) 21: GHOST Privacy Project (2) 22: suckless unix tools (21) 23: How do I learn computer? (9) 24: Nginx and Kareha (5) 25: Maker of ‘smart’ chastity cage left users’ emails, passwords, and locations exposed (5) 26: I like AI (8) 27: is it possible to have fun programming (25) 28: What the fuck is "-ilocal?" (2) 29: any good Macintosh 1 emulator? (3) 30: Twitter Source Code Leak (4) 31: Trying to make a language in c without learning c (3) 32: XMPP & Matrix (9) 33: LUnix Shitware #1 Tumbler: (3) 34: Javascript and webdev (38) 35: Japanese PHP/CGI BBS script archive (9) 36: Thoughts on Finishing Shiichan? (10) 37: Can someone create me a textboard that runs on Kareha called pworld? (15) 38: 2ch-style BBs (47) 39: Where can I download red hat 3.0.3? (2) 40: How do i install Kareha (2)

cock.li red alert (7)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-13 09:09 ID:BEdZSnEu

>Date posted: 2024-11-12
>
>Cock.li will shut down before becoming complicit in crimes against its own userbase by duress of any government or organization.
>
>For nearly 11 years, cock.li has remained one of the only public e-mail providers to allow registration as anonymously as a library card. The fact that it's still possible to get an e-mail address as easy as 20 years ago is a fact widely hated by international governments; at least the parts of those governments which have dedicated countless resources to target our service, our team, our family, and our friends with illegal surveillance, bad-jacketing, organized disinformation, and much worse.
>
>A combination of these illegal tactics have become so serious that the site is now in grave danger.

2 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-13 09:10 ID:BEdZSnEu

Does anyone know a good alternative?

  • anonymous registration
  • IMAP & SMTP support
  • preferrably free (as in beer)
  • preferrably not in smaplists

3 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-12-03 18:33 ID:ZWRReJdN

still not working?

4 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-12-04 11:56 ID:BEdZSnEu

>>3
It always did, just with occasional interruptions :/

5 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-12-04 12:46 ID:4ffUPRxl

huehuehuehue cock

6 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-12-08 21:32 ID:BEdZSnEu

It's orange alert now

7 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-12-14 16:09 ID:16g+mEt+

fuck. i use cock.li for my government address and college address

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What Text editor you guys use, and like? (20)

1 Name: ed(1) : 2024-02-06 20:14 ID:sXM4ZYHY

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I might frighten some sissies, but I heavily use ed(1).
Look at you in disbelieve, questioning how could this be possible, "why would anyone use it?" you sissy slut say.
I believe anything else is absolute bloat, even the visual idiot vi editor; is bloat hiding under the minimalism umbrella with its six grillion features, let's not forget the eymax jewchinese faggotry, an entire fucking OS on another OS all to fucking take notes in org formats, those jiggers thinking they're like a fucking Jedi for using "such a powerful editor" OS to open an email client.
Why would I even bother to install Unix or Loonix to end up living inside my editor, where I can't even leave my machine without taking my config files with me
I mean, you faggots even started to challenge each other to not leave those fancy sissy editors.
None of you can be truly commune with your machine on a very deep and personal level, because of your brainlet kikery.

thanks for reading my blog post.
.
wq niggers-tongue-my-anus.txt

11 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-07-23 12:09 ID:9gZbJcnt

>>10
I'm happy for you anon, you're not complicating your life and just using whatever that comes with your OS.

12 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-09-03 06:05 ID:Heaven

niggers

13 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-09-24 18:34 ID:O4R3/qmk

I use normal Vim with an LSP server and minimal configuration.

14 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-09-25 23:32 ID:WwX7muUJ

I use a pen and paper and write it up with Pico

15 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-13 16:48 ID:Pz8vWXHk

I think Joe (Joe's own editor) is a good editor. It supports a variety of keybinds for efficient editing, but is much more limited compared to Vim, which doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing. It has syntax highlighting for most programming languages and detects most file types reliably. It has editing commands akin to Borland IDEs, yet can be used in Emacs emulation mode, but I prefer the default settings. It has a built-in menu and has a config file, that you can edit manually too. It has a toggle-able help window, but unlike Nano, it has to be triggered and is off by default.

16 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-15 19:25 ID:9bYLn305

Notepad++

17 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-06 09:06 ID:Y+7+qF77

acme!

18 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-06 21:57 ID:Heaven

The lasting popularity of Vi / Vim is the most compelling proof that reptiloids from the planet Draco walk among us. No actual human being could enjoy Vi.

19 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-07 12:33 ID:Wd1jaKst

I use helix, because it has:

  • vim-like keybindings
  • tree-sitter integration
  • multiple cursors

and these features were designed to work together, you don't have to fix small but annoying incompatibilities between different plugins.

I still miss VIM sometimes.

20 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-12-09 13:40 ID:P6XDMiHA

spacemacs. used it for a long time now and its less hassle than maintaining an emacs setup myself. too lazy to try out to doom but that seems good too?

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[CHAT] Fuck Discord! Matrix FTW! (28)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2021-09-24 07:17 ID:bSKKF4mb

https://tanasinn.vip/doku.php/matrix

IRC is cool and all but it's 2021. Fork in the road:
Discord OR Matrix.

We currently don't have a proper Matrix server of our own yet, but that doesn't matter because you can just join whatever server you want and then connect to channels, or make channels to share with others. Matrix is like IRC -- channel based, channels are atoms, the admin "owns" their own channel to some degree -- users are free to create new channels, and unlike IRC, permissions management is simple AND real end-to-end encryption is possible.

Unlike Discord, where the "channel group" is created first and then contains its exclusive channels within it (with a shared power structure), Matrix users can also freely create "channel groups" for relevant channels, for private use or social use, to help organize similar channels by concept or intention. This radical inversion of the paradigm is naturally more in line with VIP values and return a more natural, bottom-up sense of vision to this space that corporate entities seek to seize and exploit to maladaptive ends.

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19 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-02-22 08:37 ID:WRKGqxlz

>>17
As >>18 said, there's bouncers you can use for IRC. Even if you don't use a bouncer most IRC networks have a host option to mask your IP. Then making sure to do proper SSL/TLS connections will protect you as well.

20 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-09 18:22 ID:kSYkzz9A

>>5
By this logic, we should all start using FB messenger

IRC is a sane and well-established protocol. It's easy to work with, there are plenty of good clients, and it just works.

21 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-05-20 17:59 ID:YjoroCsI

You could literally accomplish everything said in this thread with a well oiled XMPP server.

22 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-07 14:52 ID:VIvDRad4

>>17

Many networks will give you a bouncer or at least mask your IP but I don't think it's all that necessary. Unless you have enemies on an IRC network you don't really need to worry. Any firewall should block ports and nobody is likely to DDoS you unless, as mentioned, you piss people off. Just be sure to connect via SSL/TLS and that'll give you an extra layer of security. Likewise, a VPN can be useful to route through thoughamy VPNs are banned due to abuse, so your results may vary.

But yes your IP is usually visible by default on IRC networks.

23 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-13 06:59 ID:U9EkSRFO

Using SSL when connecting to IRC is neat, until someone else joins the channel with plaintext connection and everything leaks in the clear from the other side.
Jabber/XMPP could be enough for everyone, but then, what the excuse would be to reinvent the wheel and /or hoover up all the data.

24 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-24 18:30 ID:h0GKVNQG

>>17
you dont need to read the backscroll. use it to have conversations not as some glorified forum system. find a network with HistServ so you have the immediate context of the chat, or like everyone else has said, get a bouncer that does it for you. infinite history sucks.

25 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-02-26 19:44 ID:9IvIMlkx

matrix is much better than discord

26 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-02-28 10:17 ID:Heaven

I hate how online content which was once created and stored in accessible online forums has gradually shifted to private/hidden discord instances. Things like translation projects, open source software, modding communities or fan groups.

27 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-02-29 16:48 ID:o3MfqcKi

anyone, recommend me an IRC channel

28 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-29 08:49 ID:F33QSBsF

>>26
good insight

another reason why the internet sucks today, aside from the bs seo/ai garbage

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OS Wars Thread (18)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-15 21:03 ID:Heaven

My os is better than yours.
Round 1, fight!

9 Name: ti0191a430-0712.bb.online.no : 2022-11-18 09:27 ID:Heaven

>>7
Dummy.

10 Name: ti0191a430-0712.bb.online.no : 2022-11-18 09:28 ID:Heaven

Oh no the linux spyware got me

11 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-19 09:41 ID:Heaven

by the way, I'm not angry, that's just how I talk. Calling somebody a nigger faggot cumrag is like saying hello for me. I do complain a whole lot, but actually getting angry is pretty rare for me.

12 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-22 15:38 ID:Heaven

This seems like a good place to ask if anyone has had experience with TempleOS. Though it seems mainly to have gathered notoriety due the interesting nature of its development, is there anything worthwhile about the system at all?

13 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-22 18:18 ID:Heaven

Heard it isn't actually compatible with modern hardware, and development happened in virtual machine after the death of bios. But I blame hardware and glowniggers on that.

Other than that, no, you have better chance by asking a random search engine.

14 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-23 12:49 ID:x0xADglt

FreeDOS >:)

15 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-26 03:07 ID:Heaven

its good, probably. Besides being barely useful, that is.

16 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-17 12:02 ID:+AlhjjCt

If your desktop, Thinkpad, Dreamcast, Raspberry Pi, server and router don't run on the same OS, it shouldn't be even considered a real OS. NetBSD masterrace it seems.

17 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-17 15:06 ID:M/lKA+cI

The boot-up blue BASIC screen of a Commodore 64 is perfection that has never been surmounted.

18 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-29 08:40 ID:LfrHs9Q+

i use Artix btw

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For those who know crap about ipads... (2)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-21 01:59 ID:iHGDp/LF

I'm just curious,how many gigabytes is "enough"? i know everyone has different use cases for them(and some people here probably percieve these things as evil) but for a person who is transferring from android and wants to use facetime to communicate with family,how much storage would i be able to use? It might be frowned upon to ask this here,but i would honestly be here than reddit of all goddamn places to be honest...

2 Name: William Henry Gates III : 2024-11-21 03:49 ID:q6F9LzRE

640 kilobytes ought to be enough for anybody.

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Do you have any favorite tech Youtubers? (13)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-07 11:38 ID:eixs3Oip

I suppose I'm using the term "tech youtuber" very loosely here, but I like watching danooct1. I discovered his windows virus videos back in 2015 and I still watch him to this day.

4 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-12 08:18 ID:xEIoG+MU

I honestly can't stand most programming or Linux Youtubers (in a very broad sense). It's either all really mediocre and boring, or just outright bad. One example are all those distro/window manager/text editor showcasing channels, that do nothing else all day than show you some obscure, probably useless piece of software, which is the completely same as all the other softwares of it's kind and has no redeeming features or anything. You don't learn anything while watching them and it's just a waste of time, because what they say can be easily looked up in man page, or README file. There is also all those programming-themed channels, that talk a lot about programming, but in reality never actually program, yet like to participate in all the holy wars there are. That's so far the side of tech Youtube, that I'm aware of. There is also all those hardware "showcasing" (in reality it's just ads) channels, but I never bothered with them, because I never felt the urge to have to know what new hardware thee is on the market and what stats it has. For similar reasons I don't follow all those tech news channels, since most noteworthy news are going to reach me anyway, so it's not worth keeping up with them deliberately.

It's all so tiresome and washed out. Also I doubt it is ever going to change. That being said, there are some channels, which make tech content, which I like (in no particular order):

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5 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-12 18:05 ID:okTjvqCb

>>4
YouTube in general is pretty much just a vehicle for adcrap these days so it's not surprising. Not just the Google corporate themselves, but also the "content creators" are mostly in it to shill garbage on videos that tend to be, at best, information that would be better presented in text/images on a web page rather than video, but there's no money in that so they make it a pointlessly time-wasting video instead. Then there are the ones that aren't even good info but just clickbait.

6 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-12 22:13 ID:VKzhtsd4

>>5

I agree with you in general, but there are exceptions: MeatCanyon, 3B1B, or Felix Colgrave.

7 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-14 20:59 ID:lwPT2AUn

>>4
Most linuxtubers are absolutely worthless and pretty much just read articles for you.

8 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-16 12:00 ID:okTjvqCb

Heh, I remember some guy who did a rant about how bad Windows 10 was, and he kept pronouncing Linux as "line-ox". In the followup he was really salty about all the people who commented on that and that it "wasn't what the video was about" and said he'd block anyone who mentioned it again.

9 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-17 16:02 ID:qGg1uGL1

LGR is pretty cool and wholesome.

10 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-17 20:17 ID:okTjvqCb

>>9
Decent choice from what I recall; I would mentally categorize him more as a gaming channel (it did at least originally stand for Lazy Game Reviews, after all), but he had definitely branched out into covering a lot of weird, sometimes only semi-gaming-adjacent old gadgets.

Also leileilol seems to hate him for some reason so that's a point of recommendation too.

11 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-21 01:51 ID:T5Lrrrld

>>10

>leileilol seems to hate him for some reason

Fill me in,who is this and why?

12 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-21 17:13 ID:Heaven

>>11
lolcow whackjob with Strong Opinions™ about things that are usually shit takes, and a generally obnoxious attitude, who used to frequent retro game / FLOSS game circles but isn't very active anymore. Also founder of the OpenArena Quake 3 clone.

If you mean "why does leilelol seem to hate Clint" IDFK for sure but might hazard a guess he said something pro-abandonware in passing at some point.

13 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-22 01:35 ID:Heaven

>>11
created the flash for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymZPPCLQaTc and that's all

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[HELP] Single questions & Help Thread [n00b] (416)

1 Name: CyB3r h4xX0r g33k 2005-09-05 20:53 ID:KxkIsG20

If you have a single (or some more) question regarding any of the tech topics of this board and feel that it wouldn't justify creating an own thread just for that, feel free to post it in here.

If you know the answer to any of the questions in this thread, please help us out here! I am sure it's going to be appreciated.

I am creating this thread since there's ben popping up too many threads lately with single questions asking for help that aren't really set out to create too much interest.

407 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-10-29 00:23 ID:3sj/2ydQ

Can I run Windows software on Solaris using wine?

408 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-10-29 03:39 ID:iiFBMAJc

>>397
I would say RISC OS, a classic like OS/2, but you may need an ARM computer/emul to make it run. Think ppl got it to run on a Raspberry Pi.

As for x86 platform, a little, often overlooked one is GEOS for PC. Similar Win 3.x, nowadays it is foss, iirc. Also marketed as GEOWorks, Breadbox Ensemble a.o..

>>398
Newest is OS/2 derivate is ArcaOS, but non-free. Quite a bit modernised, so it installs on more recent PCs. Sadly idiots at IBM never released OS/2 source, could have been the better Windows... :(

409 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-11-02 10:42 ID:nbIVMqvK

>>408
If IBM released the source Microsoft would have raped it. They are slowly raping Linux now.

410 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-12-17 08:38 ID:S6yhZ2Ww

How the fuck do i use a computer?

411 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-12-24 00:05 ID:q9HlMQBD

>>410

Post tits.

Captcha: yum

412 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-02-20 01:30 ID:nq6q7/+6

>>410
Read the manual

413 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-07-04 21:12 ID:sswZ96QH

>>407
yes but lil trickkkky
but not on sparc cpus

414 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-07-08 00:15 ID:KWrGqNdV

How do I patch KDE 2 on the FreeBSD?

415 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-07-12 09:35 ID:eBYHLMD0

How the hell am I supposed to sort CSS selectors in my stylesheet?

Alphabetically?

fuck this i am just putting all my stuff inline

416 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-11-07 23:42 ID:LBrR4sa0

>>415

I'd sort by specificity[1], then alphabetically. Maybe split into groups if the file grows large, and sort them alphabetically.

[1]: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Specificity

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Windows software recommendations (15)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-15 15:00 ID:Heaven

Got programs you like? Tell everyone about them here!
Need to find some program to do something? Ask here!

6 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-15 20:27 ID:Heaven

>willingly suckling on bill gates teat

7 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-11-18 13:55 ID:Heaven

Open-Shell
https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

A start menu replacement for windows.
I can't stand default windows start menu, especially windows 10 start menu, so I use this instead.
You can customize search box to not search for files or online, so with this you can launch programs by just typing first letters of its name.

8 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-05 20:34 ID:Heaven

certUtil
https://www.shellhacks.com/windows-md5-sha256-checksum-built-in-utility/

A good enough tool to quickly calculate a hashsum of some file. Comes with windows since windows 7.

Use it like this:
certUtil -hashfile c:/filename.zip MD5
or
certUtil -hashfile c:/filename.zip SHA256

If anyone has something more comfortable to use than console programs, please share.

9 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-18 09:58 ID:Heaven

Honeyview
http://www.bandisoft.com/honeyview/
Really fast and lightweight imageviewer for windows. Starts in less than a second, unlike other things.

10 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-18 10:52 ID:Heaven

Hashtab
https://implbits.com/hashtab
A nice util for calculating hash sums.

They recommend https://github.com/namazso/OpenHashTab themselves though.

11 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-20 14:08 ID:Heaven

yt-dlp
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
A software to download videos (and metadata, thumbnails, and such) from youtube and other sites. A spiritual successor to youtube-dl. I'm not sure what happened to youtube-dl, probably authors of it were harassed to shit by big tech, no idea.

Command to get the entire list of all videos on a channel.
yt-dlp --skip-download --flat-playlist --print-to-file "%(id)s %(title)s.txt" "yourfilename.txt" https://youryoutubeurl

Command to get the entire list of all videos on a channel, but not save any of the videos while grabbing thumbnails and metadata. Pretty slow.
yt-dlp --skip-download --write-info-json --write-thumbnail --print "%(id)s %(title)s"

12 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-01-01 08:34 ID:Heaven

disk space visualizer
https://lifehacker.com/the-best-disk-space-analyzer-for-windows-5915921
The Best Disk Space Analyzer for Windows
Those are tools that show big files/folders as big rectangles, and small files/folders as small rectangles. Really useful when you try to find what to delete.
Surprisingly useful for when you try to open some source code for the first time too, you can instantly see which files matter the most.
A small hint for you. To make those work faster, merge folders with millions of small files into an archive, maybe even an uncompressed zip if it's music / images. Some programs can read files from zips anyway.

This is a long list, but I mostly used 2 of those.
WinDirStat
https://windirstat.net/
and
SpaceSniffer
http://www.uderzo.it/main_products/space_sniffer/

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13 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-01-07 08:48 ID:Heaven

Open Broadcaster Software
or
OBS
https://obsproject.com/
Good software for streamers and for people who need to record their screen / window. Annoying part about it though, if you try to record videos in not fullscreen, you will have to reconfigure video output resolution and bitrate every time.

ShareX
https://getsharex.com/
Good software for recording part of the screen.

14 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-20 08:49 ID:ErJBnGyr

https://mpv.io/ for media playing
https://www.irfanview.com/ for image viewing
https://www.httrack.com/ tool for archiving websites
https://www.qbittorrent.org/ for torrenting
https://nicotine-plus.org/ for Soulseek
https://7-zip.org/ for archives
https://github.com/abbodi1406/vcredist for installing all the various Visual C++ runtimes

15 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-31 18:41 ID:OUFCl++c

86box

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Computers should last a long time (29)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2022-12-15 22:42 ID:XZH79cjx

The average computer should run for at least 25 years, just stop running bloated shit and it'll be fine. NetBSD/Alpine Linux, suckless-like programs, and making webdevs face the wall should do the trick. Heck, I'll argue technological progress should have ended with the Pentium 3, computers can just do the stuff we do today (just with less fancy graphics boohoo, don't need anymore than software rendering at 640x480) anyway.

20 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-08 09:46 ID:q2Wt1l3J

>>14 >>15 Cont. 2/3
Happens every single time with pictures, I'll simply never understand their mentality in sharing everything especially personal family photos with a bunch of fake "friends" on their shitty Facebook accounts or any other social media platform. Perhaps that's the real virus and "pandemic" that people should have been worrying about for all of these years. It's just sad and disheartening that people can't see how controlled they really are. You can only imagine the confused looks that I get when I tell people in public that I don't even own a cell phone. Which is another thing, it's so frustrating that almost every single purchase for anything they want to ask you for a phone number and an email address. I always say, I don't have one to both. Like I'm going to give them that kind of information. Even in the 90s anyone with half a brain should have been able to deduce what these sleazy corporations were up to.

That's simply the reality of it. They just don't care. People don't care about anything anymore. Not a fucking thing! Can't accept the reality that is crumbling all around them. And again, I despise the whole "I have nothing to hide" mentality that mostly is associated with it. I've tried for years myself with people I one time really cared about and wanted to help them. I tried to show others that there was other ways to use the internet. The internet is a lot bigger than just a few "apps on a phone". People have also lost the drive to explore the web as they once did. I still come across a ton of new interesting websites every single time I sit down at my computer. It's not this extremely hard thing to do. Just like with a lot of other mediums the internet and true hobbyists of it are a dying breed. You just can't relate with the userbase anymore. Same goes with anime and video games as two more prime examples. It's to no surprise that everyone suffers depression constantly obsessing over nostalgia of "the good old days". What's even more sad is the fact nobody wants to take action to attempt to make anything like "the good old days". Like I had mentioned I used to help run a few small forums and I've hosted a bit of my own personal webpages over the years. Plan on working on a couple of new ones here soon. Would like to make an updated webring page since I took my other one down a few years ago.

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21 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-08 09:46 ID:q2Wt1l3J

>>14 >>15 Cont. 3/3
Compartmentalizing is a very good practice, combining it with a good threat model, and proper OPSEC naturally. Having specific VMs for specific tasks along with anonymizing network protocols. Getting some decent hardware to help you. OpenWRT or OPNsense compatible routers would be a nice touch as well. I'm not against VPNs but that's another mistake a lot of people make in thinking it completely protects them. I could go on and on about other measures to take. Something I have been wondering for a while is since the internet has been getting completely assblasted with censorship and most people being completely retarded, will people like us eventually just move over to fully staying on something such as Tor or i2p for an example?

YES, YES, and ABSO-FUCKING-LUTELY YES!!! That's what all of these fucking moronic dumbass people are already doing each and everyday. Getting pissed on, shit on, and fucked in their loose gaping assholes leaking nasty shit and cum from these technocratic overlord elites.

I really hope our pocket communities can survive and that we can maintain some sense of progress with continuing our work even if it's just small things such as our convictions that we uphold and share our knowledge to attempt to enlighten the next group of drifters who stumble upon our corners of the web. It does make me quite sad about not being able to find people IRL to connect with who really understands. Almost a cruel fate that we can't escape from. You're right though, smaller communities is the last bastion of hope. Thank you, for those kind words and taking the time to write back to me. I'm glad that I'm also not alone in seeing things the way that they are knowing that there's an alternate way to live online that's not only better but more practical for our "digital" survivial in these weird dystopian do I dare say, cyberpunk times.

22 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-03-12 00:53 ID:c1gj99qD

Still using decade old hardware daily. Most programs usually have an older version that still work and sometimes you get respectable programmers that still support legacy systems. Only real issue I've had was a government related online ID program that only works on the newer versions of wangblows or the latest dumbphones, but there's usually some alternative ID method that is a bit more inconvenient. I'll probably get a new computer when those new mega cache CPUs specifically made for AI computations become more afforable.

23 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-07-26 20:15 ID:4QLC7kAv

Ask yourselves, do we really need any more computing power to just browse the web, listen to music, watch videos in 1080p, and play some graphically good enough games between now and 10, 20, or even 50 years time? Not really. A computer should serve a lifetime, programs considered complete, and hardware fixable. The benchmarkers are really just an extension of the marketing arm of the computing industrial complex.

24 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-04 17:07 ID:ILbf4knj

>>13
I get you dude. I've felt the same way, I used to be on Discord only to stay in touch with my old friends, I thought that maybe they'd make an effort to email me so I gave them my address and left. I never got any email from them. And that's not even the first time this has happened where I lost a whole cluster of friends because they wouldnt bother to stay in contact through other mediums.
The most concerning thing to me isn't that normal people are dumbfucks, that's pretty normal. What really swept me off my feet was entering a CS course this year thinking that I'd meet other people like myself or even better than I, then finding out that nobody has anything more than a year of python experience, or playing with ubuntu, if they've even done either of that.
It fucks me off to no end, and makes me feel more alone because I cannot find a single person who I can maintain a conversation with where I'm not spoonfeeding them basic programming concepts.
maybe next year will be better?
Seriously though... these are meant to be the people who will be my work peers? who will have massive influence on software into the future? That makes me uneasy, because they are so disinterested and so ignorant.

25 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-04 19:11 ID:vwoFm2jZ

>>24
Sometimes it feels like being the last one left on Earth after a horrible apocalypse. Aside from the brief moment of fresh air you might get reading posts here, you're probably only likely to find hypersexual furries with 6-figure incomes writing "blazingly fast" terminal emulators in Rust that only work properly on computers made after ~2009 with OpenGL ES 2.0 support or whatever (even though more capable terminal emulator programs have been a thing since the 1980s).

I think it's probably because most of the people "interested" in computers at the moment are actually much better at (and happier knowing about) business studies and sleazy marketing tricks than knowing how to design your own Arithmetic Logic Unit or program microcontrollers with a variety of different ISAs or anything like that. They don't really like or care about what a computer actually is and does, so they create countless marketable abstractions on top of it, which also conveniently helps fuel the infinite cycle of throwing away older computers that can't handle those abstractions and buying newer ones with even more pointless computational power.

That's probably why one of their favorite marketing buzzwords is "scalability," because they often only ever know how to scale up, not down. The complexity required to manage the kind of distributed computing used by vast data collection businesses like Google doesn't really work anywhere near as efficiently on a simpler, older computer even with smaller datasets, yet "scalability" is all people really seem to care about. It's great for business, and "computer scientists" -- at least nowadays -- are just fancier businessmen.

26 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-10 07:24 ID:gWRl8WSj

you've got to be retarded to use suckless

harmful.neocities.org
harmful.cat-v.org

27 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-08-11 01:57 ID:vwoFm2jZ

>>26
I think the people who use Suckless are just gullible. They think minimalism is when you use a program that is only 5 lines of code long, but just so happens to depend on a thousand-gigabyte library that does all of the work instead. (See Suckless Surf, and the thousands of clones that all do the same thing poorly)

They like their convenient "truths," so calling configuration files "bloat" is fine but the moment they're confronted with an actual gigantic source of bloat that would require actual effort and thought to replace, they'll just shrug their shoulders and go back to complaining about how scrollbars are the real source of all evil or something. To make matters worse, a lot of them think they're special computer geniuses because Suckless taught them how to run a compiler every time they edit a file, as if changing an integer value in the source code is some kind of monumental cognitive load.

Good luck getting their programs to run on an old Pentium II, let alone configuring them when you have to run the whole compiler over and over again. Having a lower LoC figure to flaunt is apparently far more important to them than programs that actually work. There's a term for this I think, "Chickenshit Minimalism."

28 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-20 16:46 ID:giFVwjDN

> Old computers are noisy bastards and eat much more electricity than they should

I got a power usage meter a while back and ran a bunch of tests with the various hardware I have around, and while there's a fair bit of variation that seems unrelated to age / processor power my finding was that the notion that older computers are power hogs is largely not true, at least not if you're using flatscreen monitors instead of CRTs.

Maybe the watts per MHz aren't as efficient (I didn't calculate out anything as deep as that) or the comparative consumption is worse if you're one of those people who doesn't shut the machine off when you're done with it, but for the most part, using a system that's just powerful enough to do the task is going to cost you less in power was my conclusion.

29 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-22 19:15 ID:L+DZwXqZ

I think what pisses me off the most about modern tech is how hard it is to recycle into something useful. Think about it; Android phones are perfectly good ARM computers but you can't install any OS you want on them.

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Which Linux distro should I use? (65)

1 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2023-06-01 01:23 ID:45ytmAoH

I’m a n00b when it comes to computers but I don’t want to use Mint or Ubuntu, what’s the alternatives? I just want to learn programming with it but want to make it secure enough so I can fap in secret. Which should I pick?

56 Name: ゼリーさん !smz6IUT2D2 : 2024-08-05 04:13 ID:lPx6V+SD

Get Fedora.

57 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-08-28 11:18 ID:sPAOhmSB

>>56
Fuck Fedora and fuck Redhat IBM shit

58 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-08-31 09:33 ID:Heaven

>>54

>Getting help is much easier too.

From my experience, it absolutely is not.
Whenever I have a problem with Linux I can usually find an answer well documented on some wiki, or resort to pestering weird nerds on IRC for an answer.
Whenever I have any nontrivial problem with Windows I immediately realize that whoops, nothing is documented or maybe the thing causing problems was in a recent update and no one knows what to do about it, and I'm forced to look at totally useless gibberish written by Indians at Microsoft's support site. Half the time the only solution anyone comes up with is "just reinstall Windows".

Granted, running into nontrivial issues with Windows is much, much rarer, but it still happens.

>>52
Why in the world would anyone complain about compatibility issues and vitriolic culture only to then recommend anything BSD? Are you insane?

59 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-09-10 12:00 ID:fmHV+uWz

>>58
Anon didn't complain about compatability issues just vitriolic culture and the junkyard that is the Linux world. BSD types are asinine in their own way but I've found the FreeBSD forums to be more helpful on average than the Linux fanboys. That's probably because FreeBSD is used by a small handful of legitimately knowledgable people while Linux has a larger userbase and attracts more retards. His concluson is correct: the easiest and friendliest Unix system is Mac OS.

60 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-09-24 18:31 ID:y1b1faXd

I think Debian is a reasonable choice. It was among the first distros that I tried, when I got into Linux and I'm still using it as my OS of choice. Perks of using Debian are:

  • free as in freedom OS by default, but proprietary drivers and software can be added if needed
  • Doesn't force any desktop environment, but let's you choose between plenty (also you can use pure Netinstall as basis if you want to use only a window manager)
  • if there is software available for Linux, it works on Debian in 99% of cases
  • easy install and easy administration
  • apt is a good package manager (in my humble opinion)
  • most problems you will come across are well documented

61 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-09-27 20:20 ID:dU4Oq2Mq

MX Linux. It is based on Debian so documentation is easily available and has its own GUI programs for some tasks that will require a terminal.
Otherwise as a few people have said above Debian.

62 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-05 05:50 ID:eqD6LeUB

get slackware or devuan
i don't recommend systemd shit for beginners, since the error messages are retarded and systemd is a cancerous growth

63 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-07 10:10 ID:BuEk9Kha

Use Ugentu

64 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-08 21:23 ID:Heaven

This thread goes to show why you shouldn't use Linux!
Linux distributions are the same garbage re-packaged differently with a different coat of paint.

65 Name: Anonymous Techie : 2024-10-09 02:01 ID:BuEk9Kha

Just use [insert flavor of Debian] is like 90% of replies ITT.

Look at OP’s request. 1. I want it to be secure 2. I don’t want Mint or Ubuntu. 3. I’m a noob and want to use the OS to learn plus daily tasks.

So you have MacOS except it’s not secure and you need to sell a kidney to afford an Apple device and less hardware compatibility rules out FreeBSD. If OP wants to learn, there’s no need to get any particular version of Debian. Just use regular plain old Debian.

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