Dang! I wanted the 1000th! haha
Yes! We're nearly a third of the way through making this thread as legendary as the last one. Keep posting, fellow singles. Let the internets feel our pain!
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thought the board could use a good chuckle.
There's this girl....
Actually, she's a friend of mine and taken, by my other friend and they are really happy together, but this is my dilemma: for one thing, I can't help having feelings for her even though I only want to be her friend. And it's this thought that is just driving me nuts. Plus, I know if I let anything happen between us (which would require her leaving her bf), her ex, my CLOSE friend would feel betrayed and this could even ruin my relationship with the girl if it ended wrong. Also, meeting her and being her friend actually brought me out of a depression (lonliness?), but now has me in another one (her).
AAAGGGHHHHHHH!
sorry, I just wanted to vent for so long and if you have any comments I guess I would consider hearing them.
Stop obssessing over her, find yourself another target for your affections. You can just drop it, it's all in your head. You've made her awesome in your mind but she isn't all that great. Don't let emotions play you. Even if she is fucking wonderwoman, affection and feelings without love is worthless and fades quickly. A relationship brought about from emotions that betrays love will never last. Accept in your heart that you will never have this girl, even if your friend and she breaks up. You will never have her, not even in your mind. Do you understand?
yeah, but that's the thing, i'm havin trouble even finding another person that i can have a crush on. And i don't even want to feel this way about her. But who knows, probably actually writing that on this board will help me get over her, i mean i never let out that thought. I mean, i want to get over her, but without just asking some other girl out to compensate.
uhhh...am i hopeless?
Tell your friend you have a stupid crush on his girlfriend and can't do shit about it because you're such a woman, that will be so awkward it will definately kill it.
If you cannot rule your mind by the force of will alone, give yourself a push in the back by taking action.
Then, when you've rediscovered your manhood, go find yourself a woman.
Alright, I get it, but I don't need to find another woman in order to get over her.
No, but you might want a woman regardless.
>>308
I've never wanted any other woman, ever, and I never will.
So instead I'm resuming homosexuality, since it's all I can, and even then I only use it to get me to my ideal goal of asexuality.
lol, it's you.
"I'm resuming homosexuality" Haha, ohboy. You are fucking extreme, how about you realize that there are and will be others. Don't be so dramatic, it's mostly about our own oppinions. I'm still crazy about a girl I will never have. Not because she was ever that awesome or that we shared much, I just got obsessed about her, and it still sticks. Sometimes I'm struck by this overwhelming feeling of longing for her, even if she is long gone out of my life. It's all in my mind, and I obviously like it to be there. Eventually though I know someone else will come along and I will forget.
>>309
lol, ic wut u did thar.
If only all men had the same sense of honour...perhaps the world would be a better place.
hello I posted in this thread a few times, and I was just wondering about something. School for me is starting tommorow, after a short holiday, and there is this girl I really like. She is really talented especially in music, so two weeks ago I started taking guitar lessons every saturday. Tommorow I will tell her when she is in the music room for help in guitar. Hope this is good idea?
>it's you.
Me huh? Whats my name then? You know me so well, talk to me about it directly to me.
>there are and will be others.
Are? Care to try and prove that?
Will? Don't you try and will your socialist bullshit on me, my will is more powerful so it really is useless to waste the effort trying. Will be others? Not if I have anything to say or do about it.
>>311
Not sure what it is you've seen in my text, I'd just like to make sure you're not assuming anything here. Perhaps it would be nicer if more guys were gay, then less of them would have girlfriends.
WTH.. I have been reading your posts and I am pretty sure I know who you are dont come to the music room today.
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wow, is this thread mostly guys?? really dont wanna read through all of it to figure out myself :/
>>314
I don't go to any public education ministry building, ever.
I recognize you from this channel dude, not outside it. Chill, you haven't been found out.
>>Will? Don't you try and will your socialist bullshit on me, my will is more powerful so it really is useless to waste the effort trying.
Yeah I know it's because of your mind and as long as you don't change it you will not see and be able to embrace the others. Really, why would you stick to one person who isn't much better than all the others and will never be yours, thanks only to your mind being forced in that direction by your own will?
Have you no power over your will? Why stick with something when it only limits you to no good purpose? It's just fucking retarded. Are you trying to be a romantic or something?
>I recognize you from this channel dude
You have a case of mistaken identity then.
>Yeah I know it's because of your mind and as long as you don't change it you will not see and be able to embrace the others.
And that's precisely why I'll never change it, ever heard of defensive precautions?
>Really, why would you stick to one person who isn't much better than all the others and will never be yours
Oh you know this person? Oh you know all the others? Oh of course, you even know me, you're the best and I take your conclusions with extensive consideration. FUCK the others, there are no others, nothing but ghosts, why would I want to be with someone who is just going to die anyways? Its like necrophilia and as hot as that is, its not something I'd ever actually do, just consider for masturbational purposes, the same as all things until I rid myself of my sexuality.
>thanks only to your mind being forced in that direction by your own will?
Yeah its only my mind that has put me in the situation I'd planned for, not as if its the environment around me had anything to do with it, not as if I could ever count on it to be predictable and easily manipulated to my will, of course not. And even if I were to subscribe my will to the other team, it doesn't change a lick of shit besides make for some amusement in text form, but I can do better everywhere else.
>Have you no power over your will?
ahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahah wow, just wow, try to even understand what will is before even talking to me again ok
>Why stick with something when it only limits you to no good purpose?
Solitude isn't a good purpose? You're a fuckup, your opinions degrade into the bottom ranks of my considerations the more you even type. And as if sticking with it is something I can change, do you even know how powerful my will for that is? There is no way it could ever be surmounted by any amount of people across all of time all the way to eventuality. Do what I have, accept that it shall never change, nary that, embrace THAT because I'd rather perform that action on the fruits of my labors than some shitty person who I'll never care about and who interrupts my personal time.
>It's just fucking retarded.
Says the guy who doesn't understand that there is no desire, no action, not even any thinking within an individual without will and that will is the single driving force behind anything, let alone anything related to the individual (provided they're an individual and not a groupie). Fucking fool, WILL IS THE VERY SOURCE OF CONTROL OF ANYTHING, WITHOUT THE WILL TO CONTROL THERE IS NOTHING TO MAKE CONTROL HAPPEN.
>Are you trying to be a romantic or something?
Yes, with myself, because I'm the only one who'll ever subscribe to my brand of it, and fuck all if I ever get stupid enough to do such things with anyone. You want to talk about losing will and self control, that situation is what I would classify as the classic case of that.
>>319 so, are you trying to become asexual, or embrace solitude?
I am thinking about the same thing, well just becoming asexual but enjoying a normal life otherwise, but I think the key is to stop masturbating/looking at porn, which is hard (><);;
How important is procreation from an evolutionary standpoint anyway, right? But to achieve a truly unconscious asexuality, I need to consciously avoid sexual activity, i think.
If you want to be asexual, just cut off your balls.
Tall and lanky with tight faded jeans and dirty fake converse and a faded black t-shirt with a barely visible graphic design and the pink dye in her hair is fading pretty golden brown eyes LOOK AT ME please you want me YOU LIAR type of girl. ROck and drrawgs. I say do you notice any difference? its a bluray disc yaknow? I don't notice any difference. Me neither K bye. K.
forever.
>so, are you trying to become asexual, or embrace solitude?
I already embrace solitdue and have since, lets see...DAY ONE, what I'm trying to do is achieve asexuality. Which is of course only a matter of time, but soonest is best.
>How important is procreation from an evolutionary standpoint anyway
Less important than you would think, in fact at this point it is highly detrimental, but of course no one will buy that despite downs, harlequin fetuses and the general populace getting dumber and dumber, and whole fuckton of other issues, ahh humanity.
>If you want to be asexual, just cut off your balls.
If I believed in self mutilation then I would have by now, I'm going to do this by willpower alone, I have enough to spare.
>>322
yeah, uhmm, talking to myself here but total fucking coincidence reallyseriously has nothing whatsoever to do with you know, speaking of my friends nextdoor neighbor but still ur hot too really all to my fucking self here
Konbanwa mina-san. This is my first time coming here. I heard about 4-ch thanks to my love of the Densha Otoko story. When I saw this thread I knew I had to join in.
I am not, however, thinking that something could happen to me like what happened to Densha through this thread. I just thought it would be great to join in the conversation.
>>ahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahah wow, just wow, try to even understand what will is before even talking to me again ok
Yes I see you have not discovered the fine art of twisting your own mind. Not that it makes you very different from most people, it's only unfortunate that your circumstances
would hopelessly turn you into such an odd fella'.
But you seem to be happy with your situation so really why should I care? For your own good perhaps, so here's a protip for you son:
Will and control as you mention is emptyness, without a force to drive them, will is betrayed and control is lost. How often do we not act opposite to our will, we do not say what we wished we said or do what we wanted to do, often we actually do and say what we do NOT want to do or say.
What we want is equal to will, what we do is equal to our emotions. As long as our emotional currents are quenched, we can, more or less, live as we will. But once our emotions burst out due to lack of stimulation, we lose control, and find that we have no power over our lives.
What you are doing, motherfucker, is backing away from all situations that stir emotions within us, so you don't have to worry about losing control over your odd mind. You set up in your private environment, a haven for drenching the violent flames within you, to the best of your abilities. And this keeps you content to a level that you can go through life without snapping.
for now
But mark my words, you WILL snap. It's just a matter of time because in your mind you're already broken. I can see it in your words, you are the kind of person who snaps. Your thinking is not natural, it will not sustain you because our emotions will always be and require what is natural. Your hypocracy bullshit will break you to shit, how the fuck can you bring yourself to imagine anything else?
Hey I am @ school now and I just found out something. I think that my buddie whos in the same class as her likes her now. I overheard a conversation he had with one of his friends and he didnt seem to notice me. I know that if he asks her out he will never tell me, and he likes to keep me in the dark when convienient enough. Whjat do I do?
uh lol
>>328 challenge him to a dance-off
>try to even understand what will is before even talking to me again ok
sorry for my intrusion, i'm just new here
i just wish things would be better for me
right now its really early in the morning and I am writing a paper for a friend so his friend a girl who I like will notice meh good right?
>>337
What no? Girls don't generally dig pushovers. Unless she's into SM and that shit.
wth is SM?
Man, you are WEAK. First of all, why are you letting a 'friend' use you like that. If he was a friend he would introduce you to her without any hesistation, even he was interested in her (he would have probably let his motivates known though). But nope, he is like a pimp that you have a pay so he can see one of his hoes. He took advantage of your desperation. So tell your friend to fuck off and write his own paper while you spend your own time talking to that girl of yours.
Yeah you are right he probably dosent even regard him as a friend and is only nice to you so you can do his homework. Fuhhgetaboutit. LOL I guess he already wrote it goodluck xD
Okay yeah I did it. I saw on my friends contact list this girls name that I like. I was thinking maybe I can make a shell e-mail and send a love letter. I know what to say, but should I do it now or later like in the summer? Also I dont know if anyone here read my old posts but I asked out a friend of hers last year in December. What should I say about that if I send the love letter?
you don't say anything about it until she asks you, if she asks about it, then be glad!
Yo! Just curious... do you guys ever think about going to those date sites? Because man I really want a girlfriend lol. And im too lazy/ not confident/ and not social enough to get a girl... So yea neone have experience with date sites?
Better to go out your front door. It just takes a few steps, step out in the real world and hunt girls. ;)
>>346
Take this advice if you want to fail and waste your time, also follow this advice if you want to be miserable, have a fucked up day.
Another reason to follow >>348's advice is to experience the joy of wasting your time wallowing in a pool of boredom strewn from a trying to interact with a broken and dying society.
and maybe to kill time, too. that's how i see it. XD
Everybody has a chance, even if it's only 0.000001%, take it, jump at opportunities. Densha Otoko is a good example. See, he got the opportunity and he jumped right on it. If you go out of your front door, opportunities will come your way. ;)
>>346
Hunting people is illegal in most countries.
>>353
So i'll rephrase it. Meeting people. :)
>>353
Hahahahahahaha!
Thank you for this XD
Arrrrgghhh I just had my heart broken today. And tomorrow is my final exam. YOU CAN'T STUDY FOR MATH WITH A BROKEN HEART!
I feel sorry for you.. :(
>>356
One should not need to study the day before the exam ;) better to learn things earlier
>>358
Yeah, but it's math... :(
Anyway, I feel better now, but I'm so tired and I don't have a girlfriend to poke me.
Aww. Mind if I give you a poke, then? poke ._.
Dating online does work 345, my sister met her BF on a online dating site and she plans to get married to him next year.
Unfortunately I havent had any luck -_-;
Keep holding in there!!
you'll find one sooner or later
>>361
have hope. (ugh.. what crappy lines i have...)
guys i want to go to dating sites t00, but im too lazy atm i prefer playing games....
btw plz tell me something: on the sitez is it like teh real life, where the man has to make the move, or do the women also make first contact with men on the site?
i dunno wath to do, i know in real i must make all moves but in the site i'd prefer not to do it... so i can subscribe to all dating sitez and play games while a girl finds me.
or else should i ditch anime and stuff and become a dating geek stayin all day contacting girlz fomr the site lol?
10x all
well warez otoko, for dating sites it goes both ways. I'm a girl that uses dating sites and I usually make the first move if I see a guy that I'd like to get to know.
I was always told to let guys make the first move, but waiting for them to do so is hella frustrating >_<;;
what dating sites do you use?
match.com. It's actually the best in my opininon
I randomly go to different chat sites, like myspace and stuff
Anyone here ever try okcupid?
That said, a classmate of mine randomly said "I think you're hot" to me today... I think.
To sum it up, she said it as I turned around from the whiteboard to hand her a marker. She said it so randomly that it actually took me a second to comprehend that she said "I think you're...", I walked away thinking it was unimportant and finally figure out what the last word was about 15 seconds later.
I'm the kind of person who has trouble catching comments when they're said to me out of the blue. In such situations I usually forget to say something like "pardon?" also, unless I'm in a situation where comments are really important. Thus usually when something is randomly said to me, I don't get it and just nod or something. Bad habit, I know. But what made it even more random is that I knew nothing of the girl... besides the fact that she was my classmate.
And then there's the possibility that she was talking to someone else and just happened to turn to me right then.
Anyway, perhaps it's best that I'm not sure that she said that. I wouldn't know how to respond, as I'm always at a lost when women come onto me, online or off. The only thing I can think of which doesn't sound cliched as hell and not like me is "thanks"... which sounds sort of vain.
>>370
She probably did say it to you. Say it back just as subtly, turn the tables on her. See how she reacts.
hey, a girl with balls.
sounds like the direct type. if you want to be cute, buy her a single flower and as you give it to her say, 'wanna go out?'
that is, if you want to go out with her even..?
I think the lack of female contact has created such a void that now when I starting to reintergrate with the opposite sex I begin to think any girl that spends more than 5 minutes talking to me actually likes me. Not the fact that I with her friend who happens to be my friend, not the fact that I know more about a subject than she does. Nope, I just take any positive feedback from her and over amplify it. I guess it will go away with time.
>>373
Good to see you've opened up your eyes.
I love making, just friends, with the opposite sex. I find it better to have close friends as guys and girls, instead of finding out he or she doesn't really like you the way you wish they did. Once they know, it's like awkward to be around that person. But, hey, if you find out, somehow, if they do like you, go for it! :]
My sister met her stalker, munchausen syndrome ex on okcupid. I have virtually no desire to use dating sites because of that. But yeah, the last two girls I tried going out with...ended up turning into friends shortly after they found out I was TG...and it was subtle. I didn't even realize it until they both started dating other people, lol. Kind of sad. Oh well.
Yeah, TG? Like Trans Gendered? (Cause if you are, you may be too self delusional in the first place to find a normal human being with which to have a relationship)
>>378
Oh thank you random internet person for explaining how that all works. I'm happy that you at least aren't deluded about who I am, even if I may be. One of these days I'd like for us to meet, so you can fill me in completely about who I am. Please?
i'm 18 and i've never had a girlfriend in my life. sometimes i feel like i want one and that i want the company of a girl, but over time i've cared less and less. i haven't liked a girl or felt that i've met a girl that i wanted to be with in years. i just don't care anymore. i'd like to be with somebody, but i have pretty much no desire to be with any girl i meet. hell i don't really understand girls in general. most girls just seem weird, i can't even being to expain it. i generally don't even know what to talk to most girls about because of how little i feel like i have in common with them. i don't really know what to think anymore
Actually, I would like to withdraw that last post. It was late and I was pretty frustrated with something else, but that is no excuse. I just dont understand why someone would want to do the TG thing to themselves. It probably comes from the way I was brought up, and I should know better than to make a judgment about someone I do not even know.
So, accept it or not, I am sorry.
>>381
We need more people in the world like you. Forgiven.
>>380
17 here. Not a single girlfriend in my life, although I've had my crushes and whatnot -_- . I feel alienated too when being around girls. Not that they are weird (what is normal anyway?), but I feel embarrassed or vulnerable to them. I'd like to have a girlfriend, I'd really like to :)
But being stuck in a school in whose society (friggin' Mexico!) is alert and cautious as of relationships and pairing is a real drag. I don't feel free enough to have a girlfriend if I am in that school. The "qué dirán" (what will they say) fear is really a big problem in everybody, although very few accept it. I have that fear too, but I am trying, slowly, to get rid of it. Being in Mexico's slow and sad society is a real problem for a person like me who has other projects in life :(
hi, hows it going it's been a while since i've had a boyfriend or been on a date, but i'm a fraid to go up to a guy ask him out for coffee what do i do?
i'm 19 and my birthday is saturday so i'll be going on 20 so i'm flying to california, my mother thinks i should date within my own culture while i'm over there, but i don't care who i date, see for me in the past i had never dated a mexican guy, and my mother has always brought me down alot of levels in dating, because she told she would never approved of me being with aguy who is outside my own race, but i don't care who i date as long as i'm happy, so thats why it hard for me to date i'm afraid she wouldn't approve? you probaly think i'm stupid? for what i just said?
do it, as i guy i'd say you'd have a grateful recipient.
cultural pressure puts guys on the active side of encounters(presenation), and not all guys like that. saving some guy the hassle of that, and turning the tables, would be most certainly refreshing.
at least that's my outlook.
>>385
jewish here.. same dilemma... and the community is so small there tends to be a kind of cookiecutter mindset to most women in the culture.. (which also happens to be very cold).
my outlook.. when someone comes along who inspires me to say "f*k it, i dont care what they think", they'll be someone worth a relationship with.
>I just dont understand why someone would want to do the TG thing to themselves. It probably comes from the way I was brought up,
It probably comes from not being transgendered or transsexual yourself. :P (I'm gonna briefly define TG as "not identifying strongly as either male or female, or identifying strongly as both" and TS as "identifying strongly as the other sex, and possibly taking steps to fix ones body to match".) It's completely understandable for you to not understand it yourself. Myself, I'm transgendered; I can't really understand people being able to just clearly identify as one or the other without any doubts at all. But that's not any reason to be disrespectful, right? To each their own, I say. I'm happy you're happy with your identify; and I'm happy with my own.
>I'm gonna briefly define TG as "not identifying strongly as either male or female, or identifying strongly as both"
Frigid Onanoko not so fond of neologisms if there is perfectly ok regular word for it. Based upon above definition, lets define TG as 'confused' no? Now, gonna discern three levels of gender recognition. Have used it successfully to ascertain own gender and preference. Think you can use it too.
Level1: Your body. This very simple, you should know if you are boy or girl.
Level2: Type of partner you want. This bit more difficult. You need find out if you like to make out with girl or boy, which one better.
Level3: Type of body you want to have. You should know this too.
Level2 most important. FO believe that person can feel strong affection for both boy and girl - you can make very deep relation with either as long as you find right person. So only thing that matter is which type you prefer in your bed.
Frigid Onanoko not know if being gay or lesbian is simply fooling oneself, or something real. Must leave that to you to decide for yourself.
Anyhow, romance is just method to pave road to getting closer physically, so don't confuse it with physical love - as noble as it sound, romance is not of higher level than making love. (well, that's just what FO thinking!)
If you not really desire boy over girl - i.e. you don't know - then why not just choose for opposite sex. Going for both will make world around you very confused about you, and that probably alienate bigger group of either boys or girls from you than you will find in the transgender scene. Opposite sex is better than same sex (at least in this case) because it fit better in pleasure. (Frigid Onanoko feeling queesy writing so much about sex all of sudden!) FO really advise to narrow down your partners to just boy or just girl.
About level 3. So maybe you have boy body, but you feel you should have girl body. OK. Frigid Onanoko want to have shiny white wings, and magical powers to cause massive collateral at flick of hand. FO no have. Very sad. Have to face reality. It would be very nice. It so annoying to have to witness own limitations, but cannot change it. At same time, wanna try to love self. (This time not in erotic sense) Can you accept yourself? This maybe even more important than finding out level2 Yes, FO think level3 is nonsense. Only include it because might seem like argument for some people. But it really is not. It immature not to accept your situation and to live in dreamworld instead.
Frigid Onanoko.... believe have been respectful of people who pertain to idea of transgender and transsexual. That's what it should be at any rate, and FO hope this is true. However, Frigid Onanoko no have respect for such ideas. Those just elaborate but silly excuses to cover up being confused and not dealing properly with it. (And, can have disrespect for peoples ideas even while having respect for the people - although if would have disrespect for ALL their ideas, then no. Still, that hardly the situation here.)
Have been talking way too much again. Saying bye now!!!
Ooh, forgot to mention, FO sometime prefer romantic above sex, but still, romance far less important in determining what type of partner you wanna have!
Bye for real now!
>>391
nice derail. back on topic please. also your radical ideas about neologisms have already occurred to others, and been debunked vigorously by others still. but this forum is no more for linguistic debate than it is for gender enlightenment. so at least have the courtesy to sage when you're off topic, if you really have to post at all. thanks.
FO is a guy lol
Singles rant thread not have well demarkated discussion boundaries. It one of most broad places to.. uh... rant. It most general thread in /love. So please let FO be. ok?
>>395
I agree as well, rants in rant thread == okay
Eh, I'm good, wanted to get out to the gym today but didn't happen, but thats what tommorow is for.
Met some new college girls in Sunday school... remembered why I don't want to date college students..lol
Pretty productive overall I'd say
Everyone else?
400 GET
Anyway, last night I was hanging out with my friend. I use to have a crush on his cousin but she moved away a few years ago. I actually didn't know my friend up until recently and about 6 months ago found out they were related. Back to the story, we were talking about life and we started to talk about her. He wanted to know if I had a crush on her, but I denied it. At most I said that if stuck around, I would have had a major crush on her. But my friend is a good guy. He was saying how she has gotten prettier and is really smart. But she plays hard to get with guys (btw, after he said that I felt that it was my duty now to try, I always enjoyed a good challenge). But I feel weird now. I should have forgotten about her a long time ago, but I am sitting with my friend, her cousin, in the library studying. I dunno, I guess I can't get over any lingering feelings.
