Employment is a joke. Low pay, unreasonable hours, tasks that eat into your lunch break, working with assholes who criticize you while doing literally nothing and using company internet to use twitter or whatever the fuck people use these days. Wage work is fucking slavery. Just today my manager gave me a warning for sleeping at my desk during lunch recess. I can do what I like in my 30 minutes fuck off you jew! And holy fuck do they underpay me, all my wage goes into rent. I can't even afford lunch. What's the fucking point? I'd be happier starving all day and killing time watching anime and playing games. What did this job give me? Fucking nothing. Why do undeserving pigs have so much and we so little? The wheel will turn soon enough.
don't worry about that, widespread automation will soon make it so that you will have no choice but to starve all day while maybe watching anime and playing games. If nobody will send you to some random war first, accelerating the whole process.
i saved up money and stopped working for a couple years but now I'm running out. damn.
A day at the office should be enough to turn anyone into a raging Marxist or skinheaded neo nazi. Get yourself a job where your not working with a bunch of asinine woke colleagues. Seriously, I used to work 8 to 5 at in college admin and it was hell. Since then I quit and now work installing cable. I mostly work alone, get paid relatively decent, and the job is simple.
I was recently let go by an incompetent asshole "executive director" who can't manage his way out of a wet paper bag. While I'm happy to be outta there and done with that organization, I've been feeling like I'm a screwup because I got let go. I don't want to be a NEET, but I don't know what to do next and it's fucking awful.
wait, no, he didn't delete that thread, merely moved it down because this site is too slow for autosage to do anything. HE'S HALF A NIGGER
I'm almost 40 years old and I have yet to work a day in my life. Thanks for reading.
I somehow ended up with TWO major projects and the deadline for each is just two days apart! I have to somehow pull of two goddamn projects, do extra work for lazy team members who don't bother showing up, and wrap it all up in less than a week. This is fucking unreasonable!!!!!!!
>>5
We've all been there anon. Just hang in there and don't beat yourself up about it when other people are clearly at fault. I had a blind co worker get disciplined for accidentally knocking over someone. Where the fuck do these incompetant execs, directors, and project managers come from?
Coming to work just makes me want to kill myself. I’d rather be dead than live through this shit.
I just wish I could make friends (and maybe get a gf) at work so I don't have to suffer alone like I always do.
Work would be bearable if I didnt have to spend my entire wage on rent. seriously what’s the fucking point working when i could just live off savings and be just as broke
Society has been captured by compulsion to reproduce value. Human beings are enslaved by their own social formations to make numbers grow. Work sucks. Die Bourgeoisie macht einen Dollar, ich mache einen Cent, Deshalb kacke ich während des Arbeitstages.
>>14
What I don’t understand is why do people just accept it? Work sucks but nobody rebels. Fuck we don’t even have terrorism in this country anymore, outside of migrant jihadis anyway.
>>1
> Why do undeserving pigs have so much and we so little? The wheel will turn soon enough.
The wheel isn’t going to turn anytime soon because people these days are just sheep who are too lazy or cowardly to do anything, think only about their careers, and will eat shit of their boss told them to do it. That’s why pigs have so much because we let them get away with it.
>What I don’t understand is why do people just accept it? Work sucks but nobody rebels. Fuck we don’t even have terrorism in this country anymore, outside of migrant jihadis anyway.
I don't know, probably the same reason the peasants didn't rise up against the lords or the slaves against their masters for hundreds of years. Seems like people can stomach a lot, hopefully history will sweep away the current state of things eventually.
>>16
Not true. History is full of peasant and slave revolts. Sure, they were mostly crushed, but they happened pretty often almost every decade. There’s a reason medieval Europe was such a violent fucked up place. People today are brainwashed consumers who are happy to buy useless trash and live off fast food like chickens being fattened up for slaughter.
>>17
Because peasants weren’t brainwashed by the media and degenerate modern “values”
I agree, our fallen modern society should look to the great medieval paragon of moral righteousness Saint Thomas Aquinas, particularly when he penned the wise words "Prostitution in the towns is like the cesspool in the palace; take away the cesspool and the palace will become a dirty and stinking place."
>>19 Interesting! I was just thinking about this, and it turns out Aquinas thought about it first! THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS TO ME!
regular workdays should be 4 hours long at most instead of 8
>>21
Keynes predicted this but it never happened for (((some reason)))
why bother with prostitution when porn is much less hassle? Though not gonna lie, I'd like to try at least once. Will probably be disappointing.
First 3 times or so, maybe. After that it'll probably get boring. Unless you get an endless supply of prettiest girls in your kingdom and decapitate them the very next morning.
Why should we live in a world where labor-power is made into a commodity, and you're forced to sell it to a capitalist for a wage?
>>26
Because clearly Marxism worked out so well. You have to give up your labor power out to the state for the good of all society. Under communism everyone is reduced to a common wagecuck surviving off cheap handouts, living in shit housing, and waiting in line for their daily piece of bread and spoon of slop. The fact that we’ll create another world about as bad if not worse is the reason we don’t have revolutions and uprisings anymore. Every single one has failed. Capitalism is like AIDS, once it’s in your system your totally fucked.
>>27
All Marx ever did was point out labor-power was turned into a commodity by what would become the capitalist class. He didn't write in a book that "you had to sell your labor-power to the state" (that was Stalin to be frank).
I'm very much against the idea of communism being the state, because it goes 100% against the core ideas that Marx, Engels, and even Lenin brought to the front.
The only way one can avoid repeating the mistakes of the USSR is to understand the true nature of commodity production, its existence on a global scale, and the rejection of bourgeois charlequinnism.
>>28
Marx himself said “I am not a Marxist” so when I say Marxism I don’t mean Marx. It’s pretty clear that Lenin and Stalin believed in a world where everybody is lowered down to a wage slave to the state and the government will parcel out food and shelter to them like the brainwashed humans hooked up to the matrix. Lenin told us the state would wither away, but you don’t make a beast wither away by feeding it, expanding it, making it more and more powerful. This is why communists are a failure, they say one thing (stateless, classless, society) and do the total opposite (brutalist authoritarian state where everybody are slaves). Best way not to repeat communists mistakes is to not be a commie and just say no to communism. We need to find another solution not keep trying shit that has proven not to work.
can we do the part of communism where we kill all the landlords and stop after that?
>>30
Yes as long as we can get the faggot loving capitalists and bankers too
>>28
Ok, how should the U.S.S.R. have done things differently? Where did they go wrong?
>>32
The USSR couldn't do a whole lot given its situation, but I outlined what should be learned from it in my initial post.
>The only way one can avoid repeating the mistakes of the USSR is to understand the true nature of commodity production, its existence on a global scale, and the rejection of bourgeois charlequinnism.
>>30
if you have guns and if those guns can do shit against actual military
or if you are military
>>33
I’m pretty sure the Ruskies read their Marx and rejected bourgeois charlequinnism. That’s not where the Soviets fucked up though. Russian style planned economies don’t work, a group of guys sitting in around a table can’t plan the entire economy of a massive country, getting rid of markets is a bad idea. The Soviets put too munch money into the army, they floated their dying economy on oil and gas sales, and they spent too much time building an autocratic state that they gave up on the whole withering away promise and they stopped caring about the average worker.
You can’t build a big government and then act surprised when it starts taking away your rights. Lenin didn’t realize this obvious fact.
>Getting rid of markets is a bad idea. The Soviets put too munch money into the army, they floated their dying economy on oil and gas sales...
If money circulated in the USSR, then the law of value was still present in the country and markets were never done away with.
>You can’t build a big government and then act surprised when it starts taking away your rights. Lenin didn’t realize this obvious fact.
Lenin wrote an entire book on this subject: State and Revolution. As much as the state is a repressive arm of the ruling class, and needs to be abolished, it cannot be abolished overnight.
A worker's state should take on a different form and content from the capitalist one, which we saw with the worker's councils (soviets). However, they were unfortunately crushed as a result of the civil war.
> However, they were unfortunately crushed as a result of the civil war.
So what your saying is rule by soviet style workers councils is how things should look? Is that even a state or some kind of syndicalism anarchism?
> markets were never done away with
The soviets tried abolishing and doing away with markets and even currency at one point. At the end of the day, you can’t do without the market mechanism as it’s the only successful means of distribution we have. What do you propose? Soviet style planning clearly doesn’t work. Even big capitalist corpos are better planners than the soviet communist party.
Communists are also atheists who destroy religion wherever they go. This is another reason for their failure, but it actually contributes to the capitalist system by helping the capitalists turn everything sacred into a commodity. There are no sacred mountains that can’t be mined, no holy tribal places where observatories cannot be be built etc etc. communists assisted in this disenchantment of the world which paved the way for brain dead consumer culture and environmental catastrophe.
I still say the best form of government is a benevolent dictatorship tempered with the occasional violent assassination.
My manager only shows up when she feels like it, she spends most of her day on discord or ordering junk off Amazon. And they slap me with a disciplinary warning for unprofessional conduct? All I did was rest my head on my desk for 10 minutes during fucking LUNCH BREAK. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
>>30
Where do I sign up?
>>39 Do something about it, employment tribunal or something. Or kill them all
Fuck the bosses and the Jewish control
>>40
Killing them would be preferable but then you’ll end up in a cell doing life without parole, starting at the world through a crack while you do your best not to drop the soap in the shower. Suicide is the better option imo
>>39
my manager spends his day jerking off behind his desk thinking nobody knows. he has a seperate office with those ugly metal blinds and whenever he puts it down you know hes beating it. at first it was kinda funny but now its just annoying as fuck and i have to jam my headphones into my ears untill they bleed and blast something loud and annoying just to survive. fat sweaty bastard has built up some endurance too, maybe all that porn watching has given him a limp dick and a right arm built like ronnie coleman? why the fuck do i have to put up with this shit? seriously nobody can tell him to jerk off somewhere else because he has the power to fire us whenever he wants. im half considering flooding his pc with lolis and ratting him out to chris hanson or the fbi but you know what they say about snitches.
>>44
Leave him a note. "Keep it in your pants until you get home. We know what you're up to. It's disgusting."
>>48
Society has let the gays get away with too much. If you criticize that behavior they’d just play the homophobia card. Does it ever occur to the LGBTQKKK+-% whatever that there maybe wouldn’t be so many homophobes if they didn’t give society a reason to keep hating them?
>>49
The ones around here don't even see a problem with openly pissing on the street drunk and jerking each other off on their front porches where other kids live on the street. I can't wait for someone to finally get frustrated enough where they don't give a fuck and beat them senseless.
"homosexuality" is just a mental/psychological disorder that's being perpetuated by the ruling class as a control mechanism for society.
It's clear to anyone with a brain that there is no such thing as "homosexual" and it's nothing more than a fetish or disorder from trauma/abuse.
And yeah I agree fuck work, fuck society.
I've been a hikikomori since I was 12 years old.
The only escape from this judeo-capitalist hellscape is to form homesteading communities off-grid.
Great thread.
Love it when some schizo makes it all about his current thing that he has obsessed over for the past 20 years and not the thread topic.
Fuck society it can drink my piss, eat my shit, and choke on my cum.
>>52
Judeo-capitalist? we all know christians are to blame for this. the catholic church was the worlds first multinational cooperation with branches across europe and a huge financial empire. the jews are merely like those midget fish in nature documentaries that hug the belly of a shark so it can get a few crumbs or whatever the fishy equivalent is. They are just along for the ride but they aren't the ones driving.
Go read weber, capitalism was caused by the protestant christian spirit. the idea that working as hard as possible and as painfully as possible is somehow godly and a good an righteous thing to do. Thats literally why work sucks shit today and of course this retarded christian work ethic has been exported to every corner of the known world. except in the first world nobody believes in god but individualist hedonism, so they will work their ass off for that dream house they'll never get and still be deluded into thinking what they're doing is good and our moron society applauds this.
just move to the third world (mexico, cambodia, moracco) and live like a king
Today I went home early from work feeling sick. I was genuinely feeling sick but also not really in the mood to be there. I really shouldn't have though because apparently I've taken off a lot of time this year and I got disciplined for it (fuckers).
Since I took the day off, I'll have to get a doctors note during the week which is going to be a huge pain in the ass as I'll have to sit in some clinic for 3 hours just to say "I need these forms signed, I felt a bit dizzy at work and didn't want to faint and went home. I know this is a huge waste of your time as a physician but my employer is an asshole and my job depends on it."
It's this sort of shit I hate. I hate my day job but I do actually do a good job when I'm there. I get thanked for it by those around me. But the management? They don't notice and worry about shit like this. Fuck them!
>>57
management are evil. literally pencil necks who do no work and are paid for nothing. managers just dont understand shit about the actual job but think they know everything and love to crap on employees who tell them otherwise. if there's ever a fuck up though, they dont hesistate to blame you for it.
>>57
>>59
Managers are literally incompetent by definition. The Peter Principle states that people are promoted based on their performance in their current position, not the position they are being selected for. The Dilbert principle states that people who are so good at their current position (this applies more to technical positions as opposed to leadership ones) as to be irreplaceable will be passed up for promotions so as to avoid the headache of training someone else to fill their shoes. Ergo: Management are people who were good - but not great - at ground floor positions and ended up stagnating performance-wise at lower and/or middle management, since those who were actually really good leaders of men and good planners ended up getting promoted to the senior management and executive level.
Just something to think about.
>>60 Hmmm yeah “literally” ”by definition” are you sure about that?
I got a job and actually go outside now and I fucking hate it but have to pay the bills somehow. I thought I’d get a job and act like normie and everything would be okay and I’d be normal but I totally failed. Fuck it I’m better off alone and at home watching anime all day. Trying to role play as a normie all day is just painful. I have to put up with their bullshit materialism and false flag fuckery. Now I just tell my work colleagues to fuck off every time I see them. “Hey can you take these down to Jemm-“ fuck off! “Hey, so we’re all going out for lunch do you want to com—-“ fuck off! My manager has warned me for this behavior so today I told her to fuck off. I hope they fire me so I don’t have to get up every day at 5am put up with the excrement they are.
>>62
Telling people to "fuck off" where I'm from would get you killed or shot while you leave to head home. Do you work around a bunch of betas and women?
>>63
They have a rainbow pride flag in the office so that tells you all you need to know about them
>>63 That's hilarious, offices in some kind of savage lands?
>>66
Faggots tried to get me onto their gay pride bullshit. I flat out told them no and they even demanded we all change our social media avatars to Ukranian flags. I don't use retardbook or twitter so I squeezed my way out of it. I've been decorating my workspace with pictures of lolis, toys, and today I prinetd off a picture of Osama Bin Laden. If this doesn't get me fired I don't know what will.
>savage lands
I've actually been thinking of moving to a third world country or somewhere in Asia. But judging how things are these days, it won't be long before they too are corrupted by the poison of western civilization and disgusting woke cancer.
>>67
Most that live here don't even know what Ukraine even is, that's how out of touch with the current trends regular people here are. There weren't even mask mandates except for at the hospitals during 2020. Not that anyone actually even bothered wearing them. Mostly saw people wear a bandana on their necks and would raise them up for a second if at all when asked by someone. A male with slightly long hair gets constantly harassed and screamed at by anyone who passes him by. Someone gets murdered all the time which doesn't seem to even phase anyone anymore. A guy I went to school with just got locked up for chopping up a girl into pieces with an axe. He was found doped up on heroin naked next to the chopped up body covered in blood. I think I'm going to start seriously referring to this place as the "savage lands" because fucking dammit, it's accurate as hell.
Thank God for unions. The bossman can't be a lying, cheating scumbag like all bosses want to be without causing a region wide strike and getting fired. I've been cheated so many times in the past because I was so desperate for a job, but that doesn't happen anymore. I may just be a cog in a machine, but I'm a damn good cog and I deserve the best damn grease a cog could ever wish for.
>>70
I had a Jewish boss that put a big Israeli Jew empire flag in the office during the Gaza bombings and if you say anything to these people it’s considered antisemitism and you get deleted
Be honest, do some of you get jealous when you realize if you had even the most minimal social skills and social identity, you could've made it as an IRL streamer making over 10k a day off of ads, sponsorships and paypigs? A lot of working men talk about unions like it's a good idea, but then in the next breath they prodigally waste money giving donos to streamers that could've easily been them
>>72
I'm not female, have zero personality, I suck at gaming and I'm as shy as house cat. I could never make it as a streamer. I'm pretty sure most people here aren't sexy ladies and there's no way your going to make it as a streamer if your not a cute girl with cleavage. The bigger issue is working men who don't join unions over membership fees only to dole out cash to cum baiting streamer girls and fucking over the entire working class in the process.
>>72
As >>73 said, "not female". Unless we could have had random instant success in the beginning of gaming content going wild such as Pewdiepie, Markiplier, and others around that time period it just couldn't happen in today's time or even since probably around 2014 or so. Since the whole "Girl Gamer" aspect really has taken off there's been no chance for men to get in that sphere unless they already were big in some other category and just jumped into gaming as well with already having that following. I could start a channel/stream today on Twitch or some other platform. How fucking long would it take me to even get 100 followers? I'm sure a while since I already only play very niche interested titles. I don't play current games and haven't been too interested in newer games since the mid 2000s. The last time I got a console while it was still fairly a new release was a PlayStation 2. I'm not sure there's really a group of people willing to sit and watch me play retro games for hours on my emulators then donate enough money for me for me to make it a "full-time job". Besides, I'm a middle aged socially awkward neckbeard who doesn't even own a webcam. I do have a microphone somewhere probably covered in dust that I haven't used since 2019 when I thought I'd do a podcast with some guy I know. That didn't go anywhere. Was mainly going to talk about how I thought my home state and country was a shithole.
>>73
As if unions actually did anything even when you give them money.
The reason why people don't join unions is because they fear not having a job and want their job to pay bills so nothing changes.
Doesn't help that most people are in debt to credit cards buying useless shit and that the company will either have so much money that it does nothing to them or that there will always be someone willing to work or take your shitty place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRU1rPHJdSo
He makes it as a streamer and somehow manages to make money.
This video is an example of how his streams go.
I know part of it is because he became infamous for what he does so people keep his "legacy" alive.
Why do people give him money? No clue.
Another thing I can recall people doing was making "VTubers".
Pretty much your webcam maps your movement to a virtual character and people went nuts over it, even had dudes posing as girls to try it hop in on that sweet cash grab.
I know people give vtubers money just for them to say their nickname or some shit like that.
I wouldn't do streaming though for money and would rather do it has a hobby.
I never liked how it went from you making videos for fun or whatever and people watching them to you make videos and expect your viewers to give you money especially with how streamers view or talk to their viewers.
I mean even that DSP streamer doesn't like to stream, not hard to tell. But because of how long its been since he worked and the amount of debt he's raked up he has to go on with the show because somehow his streams manage to make more money.
>>75
The idea that unions don't do anything is corpo propaganda. Unless a union is corrupt as fuck, you will benefit from membership.
>He makes it as a streamer and somehow manages to make money.
Well good for him but I suck at gaming so there's no way in hell I'm ever making money streaming, unless its some kind of fetish porn for homosexuals except I'm not a faggot and still have some level of decency and self-respect left.
>even had dudes posing as girls to try it hop in on that sweet cash grab.
I'm not some fucking troon either. I'm not pretending to be a female hentai character for money. I'd rather starve than do that!
>>76
I was in a union when I was working in a unionized field at 18. I was legally required to be given the choice by my employer to choose if I wanted to be in the union or not. I chose yes because they had already ensured my wage was far above average in the country, as a beginner no less. It also gave me a load of insurance benefits in case I got laid off, had an accident, or needed a legal council.
Countries with good laws love unions because you can't be fired for talking about them or trying to form one. Corporations don't even bother paying marketers to fud unions, it's a losing position for them so they'd rather save the money spent fighting unions for paying better wages. American union busters are hilarious. If unions are so bad, why do they spend so much money trying to prevent them and convince people they're bad?
It's simple: whenever some faggot with a vacation home and a private yacht tells you that you shouldn't do something, like talk about your salary with coworkers or demand a raise or join a union, do it immediately.
I wish I was that gothic king dude. Some say he lives in squalor, but honestly his small town seems so nice. The worst you get in little all-white-no-gros hick towns are meth junkies trying to steal your radiator every once and a while, but aside from that, all that guy does is get high, eat garbage and be himself on livestream, and he gets donos from paypigs because being a lolcow in the current year basically means normalfags will throw money at you for existing.
I’m seriously thinking into going into NFTs to rip off retarded old Chinese men who don’t know how to right click + save but that seems like very Jewish behavior
If I had to be a streamer I’d demand money to live stream my own suicide. Then make off to some 3rd world country with my bag of bitcoins and live like a king. Tbh I can’t say I’d know what to stream it’s all become boring as shit these days. Every streamer is just like the last streamer.
>>81
You still use 4-ch so in the world of internet normalfaggotdom you might as well be one
I saw a guy try to confess to a girl today and she got all aggressive and started punching and kicking him like a roided up tranny. Like wtf? Dude was sat there gripping a teddy bear like a wuss. What the hell is happening to society? We all know men are supposed to beat girls not the other way around.I don’t think I want one of these so called “women.” Where’s the girl in girlfriend these days?
I can't help acting lame in front of my colleagues. They just look at me and think I'm a total fucking creepy retard. I try being friendly but just come off as cringe. Let's face it, I'll never make friends. Been friendless for nearly 30 years, it's pretty much over for me at this point. I'm too far behind to catch up with other people socially. Whatever, it's not like work is a good place to socialize anyway, you can never just be yourself or say anything truthful to people whatsoever. It's all just fakery. Hopefully, I will be able to adopt a child (preferably a daughter) and the authorities won't say I'm unfit or discrimminate against me for being a loner.
>Whatever, it's not like work is a good place to socialize anyway, you can never just be yourself or say anything truthful to people whatsoever.
Nah dude the workplace is not the place for that
I wish I could fuck stinky hairy fat women for pay.
I wish I could just find random people to work for on a limited time basis. For example, just work one day a week or a few hours here and there for others. I don't want to slave away for a megacorporation but I have no problem working for a regular person to help a small business or do some chores for an elderly person who needs help for some pay that would be tax free.
>>95
I've been doing that for a while. Freelancing and taking short contracts. The problem is, unless your an engineer or something serious like that with a lot of experience under your belt, there's no decent money in it and your effectively a low income wagie.
Finally got fired
PARTY TIME!
Work is good
Employment is bad
Of course work is a scam look at the cost of a tiny house, 1 million average here in Toronto. Minimum wage like $14 bucks. Average wage is like $25 on the high end. 20% down payment $200,000 who has that? And interest you will be paying over the life of the mortgage is like $800,000 interest is about 180% not 5%.
Its all agenda 21 no house no family no kids depopulation. Vax 5G cancer it all works together to depopulate.
After working at the same company for several months, someone finally asked about my sex life (or lack thereof...)
i quit my job because my boss was promoting people that started after me above me. he did offer me a raise to stay but it was going to be a few bucks less than what the others made and i would have to do most of their work. that was a big fuck you to me. hard work just isn't rewarded in a capitalist system unless of course your working for yourself. but when you work for someone else it's just not. employers reward hard work with more hard work.
>>103
Ahh, the well known way to fuck up as a boss. That stuff just isn't for everyone.
>>103 My boss doesn't do that, if I work harder to get something done for a surprise deadline, I get bonus time off. Not saying it doesn't happen, but I often see people complaining about employment in general when really they were just unlucky not to work somewhere better
Don’t worry ChatGPT will replace us and dysfunctional AI can do your job for you except shittier. All while the rest of us all share a side walk on skid row hoping they’ll finally employ us after the next skyscraper comes down because some genius replaced the architect with a chatbot.
Coops, worker owned companies, or and (some) state governments all provide better conditions. Brother works for the state and gets paid well, gets a pension (that's not underwater), and has good benefits all while doing less work than when he was in the private sector. My roommate works for a coop as a dev and has an excellent work/life balance. Currently what I'm seeking to escape the hellscape that is contracting.
>As if unions actually did anything even when you give them money.
You are aware this year (and to an extent, last year) were hot summers and tons of folks won better pay, right?
I successfully got myself fired now I can wake up whenever I want and do what I want. First few days were boring though.