I don't know why would you have negative feelings about the idea that one of the many metaphysical qualities surrounding a commodity include a tacit association to arbitrary social roles. Just for curiosity, what part is it the one that you don't agree with or feel like it's incorrect: the part where acquiring commodities actually brings about some sort of superegoistical enjoyment not strictly attached to its use-value by drawing from our sense of identity, or that gender roles are actually conventional and ill-defined and thus prone to change through the mere exchange of commodities?
I eat chicken wings and scream inappropriately at television but that's because I like the taste of buffalo sauce and get over-excited easily. I don't see what it has to do with masculinity because I would likely do this if I was a woman or something else
"You listen to every genre? Finally, appreciator of adult babyfur diaper thrash!"
>>846
Eh, I wouldn't say that it has anything to do with masculinity. I remember when people lost their shit multiple times during the women's world cup
>It always seemed insulting that things like "masculinity" and "femininity" are boiled down to aesthetic and product preferences, the kind of thing I thought we were more or less moving past seeing as gendered.
I agree, I have some trans friends, male and female, who said they weren't into girly things like ponies and make-up when they were young and so they decided they must be a boy (and vice versa) isn't that just reinforcing gender stereotypes?
Drinking a lot of water feels weird and urinating constantly is annoying
>>856
Is it a surprise that a superficially progressive "community" would be pushing anti-liberal pidgeonholing ideas, like some kind of a reactionary? It's especially convenient when any and all opponents can be dismissed and/or demonized as horrid transphobiacks.
Remember: boys have short hair, girls have long hair.
Hair length is something I don't even associate with masculinity/feminity and I didn't even realize it. Long hair on men depends on the person and can look really bad or really good depending on the guy. Sometimes it can be MORE masculine like in the case of metal
>>859 Maaaybe but long-haired metalheads still get called poofs by some people no matter how masculine they behave
>>857
Drinking a lot of water feels GREAT and urinating constantly is NOT AN ISSUE
Ranch
Transgender people aren't even real
everytime i play strangeprogram in sm5, i start half-forming a weird thought about using magic to choke people
im gay & have long hair & can squat more than anyone on this board, if anyone made fun of me or called me a sissy or w/e i'd just beat them up. that's what real masculinity is.
>>866 I was talking about how I get called a poof for having long hair, even when I'm with my girlfriend. Maybe it's my Hello Kitty backpack.
Hello Kitty more like Hello Titties
ray peat stans be like: dont drink water on an empty stomach or eat salmon or you'll fucking die, but coca-cola is a health food.
>>866 Gay people do a LOT of squatting so I don't doubt that for a second! But the "eye can do more exercises than u" and "hurr u insulted me so now eye have to beat u up" attitudes are the performative aspect they were talking about before.
>>871 i was the one talking about performative masculinity and i was making fun of the like, sean hannity listener types who jack off about how manly they are because they drink beer and watch sports but they're fat and weak and haven't touched a football in 30 years. while being ACTUALLY strong and masculine isn't something you can perform, you have it or you don't. and like it or not, strength and vitality are integral to masculinity.
performative masculinity: big trucks, big guns, beer, chicken wings, watching sports, trucker hats, dick jokes. a simulacrum of actual masculinity caused by the absence of truly masculine traits such as loyalty, fraternity, willpower, physical and spiritual strength, the ability to lead and command respect, etc.
not performative masculinity: posting on the elitist superstructure of dqn
it's possible to not be particularly physically strong and still be masculine, look at T.E. Lawrence, who was NOT a tall dark handsome peter o'toole style buff lady's man but was actually a 5'3 blonde porcelain-skinned vegetarian twink. rather than physical strength, he was endowed with an enormous strength of character and the ability to command respect and loyalty despite his stature. it's something you can't understand from a purely materialist perspective.
sorry i love boys so i think a lot about masculinity and what it means
>>872 yeah but feeling the need to prove it to others is the performance, seems like insecurity
>strength and vitality are integral to masculinity.
Idk this seems like an empty meaningless statement
> big trucks, big guns, beer, chicken wings, watching sports, trucker hats, dick jokes.
That's just a list of traits American people have? Loyalty and fraternity are more feminine traits, and hasn't it been found that countries led by women do better in some ways than ones led by males trying to prove how powerful they are?
How the fuck are chicken wings related to masculinity? It's a fun novelty food that isn't too heavy to drink with
performative masculinity is attempting to attack a pro wrestler and then dedicating your failed attack to Jim Cornette on twitter
>That's just a list of traits American people have?
yes and americans are generally fat, lazy, cowardly, and weak, both of body and spirit. i would not call the average american "masculine" in any way at all.
>Loyalty and fraternity are more feminine traits
christ this is what happens when they stop teaching classics in school. please read the illiad or something.
>classics
That's bizarre because The Odyssey arguably started the woman as a prize/reward for the hero, I thought that was the bad part of masculinity in fiction that was common until the last 10 years. I don't know if themes in classics are necessarily healthy to teach nowadays
>countries led by women
It always makes me laugh in a dumb way whenever generic female leaders are brought up because of the dead thatcher memes
>>880 Looking it up maybe I was wrong about fraternity, maybe in Greek times but when I think of fraternity today I think of gossipy hens at knitting club, sharing the dick pics they've received that week and having a laugh together. But regarding loyalty, wouldn't you agree the traditional view is that a man with lots of sexual partners is respected, while the woman is expected to stay loyal to her husband?
>>884 I was mainly referring to what I've read about which countries have done better in handling the pandemic, but that maybe doesn't hold much water
>>886
There was nothing wrong with what you said, I was just having a lark
The word you're looking for anon is sorority. But even that's a weird word to use to describe what you're talking about.
>>888-889 Yeah I said I looked it up and admitted I was wrong... I don't think I meant sorority exactly but that was probably where my mistake came from
>weird twitter catholics and think "traditional" just means going back to like, 40 years ago
What's the difference between a Catholic and a Twitter Catholic? I know it is based on conservative moral attitudes (not a view I subscribe to) but I didn't mean traditional as in going back, it's a double standard in normal society that feminists rally against today. I guess loyalty to a spouse is a different kind of loyalty than towards a ruler or team or something
Twitter catholics are a bizarre mix of memes and light-traditionalism.
>wouldn't you agree the traditional view is that a man with lots of sexual partners is respected, while the woman is expected to stay loyal to her husband?
Not really. I mean, from an ultra traditional perspective that would either be adultery or a renunciation of celibacy, both of which would be shunned. It's only in recent times that having sex with multiple people has become less stigmatized. And these days men and women both get away with sleeping around a lot more, so it's not that unbalanced either gender-wise.
Lost track of who's who but funny how that one guy was decrying "performative" simulacra of masculinity in one breath immediately heralds a "performative" simulacrum of masculinity (weight lifting) in the other.
Gender is the new soul. I don't expect people to be consistent about it. Nobody is consistent about the qualities of the soul either.
>>894
There are lots of things that only exist in the diffuse space of social convention: family, religion, money, nation-states, how to properly use a toilet, any relationship to power including capital, the government, your parents and your teacher and yeah, gender. Many of these are ill-defined in some aspect, if you ask three different people why should we obey our parents you'll probably get three different answers. They exist in this paradoxical nature of not actually existing (i.e. spooks) but still very much influencing every aspect of the social order.
I don't think that realization by itself is very interesting as anything else except as a starting point though
Shunning my sister after she went back to her abusive husband
It's foggy outside! Nice!
>>893 the difference is that strength is integral to masculinity and spicy chicken wings are not. i hope you can understand this.
>>898
Strength is about as integral to masculinity as a loud motorcycle.
>>899 if you inject yourself with testosterone it will make you strong and confident but it wont make you ride a loud motorcycle or eat chicken wings. i hope this clears things up.
>if you inject yourself with testosterone it will make you strong and confident
Even that's not guaranteed.
triple beam scales should be done in units of 8 or 16 so that i can do a binary search without having to round all the time
that's called fuckin' ergonomics bitch
now that my phone fills the usage niche my laptop used to idk really what to do with my laptop anymore
>>906
SMB?
Dock it and use it as a 2nd desktop?
Use it as a seeding machine?
grab your cock when u see 2pac!!!!
2pac alive in serbia
3pac
if 10 years ago i told you homorectalists are coming for your children with international poopdickery to turn your sons into fudgepacking snerd nurglers and shitleakers, you wouldn't believe it unless you saw it on video for yourself https://banthis.tv/watch?id=60e638068e0de54b952c18ee https://banthis.tv/watch?id=\
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imouto wants to build a keyboard with me
This is the 2nd (?) time the "tastes like prion disease" post has made the rounds on tw*tter...
For our fifth anniversary, my wife gave me a seven inch dildo.
murder-suiciding my neighbors wife by looking at her tits in ancient judaea
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Twitter edgelord that openly demeans Christianity but gets butthurt when people spread hearsay about wiccans and satanism
Good night and fuck niggers
I'm going to have some celebratory macaroni!
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Jodi Arias is hot
Wait, wtf, I could've sexed a succubi if I wasn't getting lied to by some 3DPD bitch pig? COME BACK! I liked the sleep paralysis and the purple that emitted into my room! She's gone, but my penis is still here! ;_;
Wikipedia has extremely graphic photos of birth defects on it. Most are just charts of how inheritance of it works but some are just "here's a picture of a disfigured baby"
Forgot what I was going to post
i am a disfigured baby ( ˃ ヮ˂)
not if it involves sitting on your face!
I have no dick, and I must fap
I do not even know
I know that rocko's modern life episode about clowns is about being gay but nowadays being a clown is more stigmatized than gayness in a lot of places
DQNocide
I started the succus facesitting joke a while back, I apologize, it was creepy and now others are joining in and making it worse.
Whenever the "sit on my face" thing comes up I hear a boisterous black man saying it
I love nice fat hairy sweaty juicy beef curtains sliding around my face
games where you have a thing in each hand that make you right click to use the left hand and left click for the right hand
What tv shows are good for ogling at schoolgirls? Puppies don't cut it anymore.
STOP BEING ANXIOUS