I'm usualy just a lurker around the board, but today i have a story... recently i been posting about long distance relationship because I really like this girl that lives in japan. but i live in australia so its really hard if i want to confess to her.. well this is how it all started...

Around 2005 April, i was picked on by some people at school because of my hobby, which is movie making. I'm really like a movie otaku, i love watching movies thats why my dream is to become a film director. most of the girls i knew, i told them about my hobby and they would all ne like "isn't that like really immature??" and later on wont ever talk to me.. it was around November when i was on a japanese pen pal website where i met the japanese girl, her name was Aya. we started emailing each other talking about school and life style ect. then i asked her if she used skype and she said she uses it so we added each other. we started talking in skype, (to those who doesn't know its like msn but you use microphone to talk). for the first time, i told her i'm into film making... she unlike the other girls was actualy intrested in it.. she asked me when can i show her my movie.

we talked almost everyday, mostly for 2 hours and we can always talk about anything like movies, anime, school, music ect.. then one night... we talked for 6 hours! i only had 2 hour sleep because i had to wake up for tennis lessons >"< we got more close after that. for christmas i bought her a bracelet and air mailed it to her, she liked it alot. one day i got her email but was really surprised... usualy at the end of the email she would just write "from Aya" but this time she wrote "Love from Aya". i had this feeling when i saw it. after that, i didn't hear from her for 2 weeks and then one night i got her email asking when can i talk to her... but after that... I've waited for a month and stil counting on... I emailed her before saying i have something to tell her because i planned to confess to her next time we talk.. but now i dont think i can do it because i reckon its highly likely i may get rejected since we are so far away ＿|￣|○" the feeling with this girl is different from all the other girls i liked. should i confess or not??

First thing I can offer you is this:

"Love" when on a signature tends to mean NOTHING.

If you're knew to getting along with girls, I understand, you see that word and your heart jumps. I've misinterpreted this sign before, which is why I offer my advice as a caution.

You've only given us a overview of the information, so it's hard to say if you should confess or not.

Again, speaking from personal expereience, I once confessed to a girl that I knew primarily over the internet that I had feelings for her. At first she played along thinking I was flirting, but once she realized I was serious, she shot me down hard.

I really don't want to make you feel anymore nervous about this than you already do, but you did ask for advice so I'm offering what I can.

I'd gauge the situation best I can to find out if she has feelings for you if you don't want to set yourself up for a fall. You need more to go on than a "Love..." in an e-mail.

In conclusion though, as lame as it sounds, you really just need to listen to your gut on this. You need to ask yourself two things 1) Do you really love her? Or is this infatuation with someone that's offered you kindness? and 2) If you knew that she didn't love you back, would you still have feelings for her? If you can love her without need for reciprication, then by all means confess.

Sorry for the rambling reply, I hope that some of this will be of help to you.

Good luck!

Thank you so much for the advice..
i really think i am falling for her... even if i may get rejected i think i will still like her, the main reason why i like her so much is because out of all the girls i know, she didn't make fun of me because i was into movie making and other stuff. I just wish i was in the same country as her, i waited so long for a reply and dont know how long i can keep waiting＿|￣|○" but if told her everything how i feel... would that work?? also it was both for me and girl too talk to someone that long the first time... would that mean anything?

＿|￣|○" I feel so hopeless!! >"<

Dude...that little ＿|￣|○" man is cool. Hmm..

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BUT SERIOUSLY, A lot of people thought I was crazy too because I was into blond girls for a weak, then mean girls, then when I said I REALLY only liked girls like Hotaru and gave up on women because they were boring that people gave me a hard time too. I really, REALLY like Hotaru but not like goth goth girls who have piercings and play live action role play and lame stuff like that. ANYWAYS BACK TO YOUR PROBLEM

Dude you live in another country. Even from Australia it is expensive to go to Japan. Second this is just some girl you talked to on line. She might be a real bitch in real life. Liking movies and talking nice is one thing, but man, she could have been a REAL BITCH. And you would have hated it. Plus she may have just been using you for English practice and got bored with it. I'm sure it sucks and hurts, but it'll be ok, man. I'm sure there are plenty of other girls in Australia who like movies too. Hell, that could be your thing, ask them if they will be in your movies. Girls are vain and like attention like that.

PS. Is it true you can get Steyr AUGs in Australia? Do you have one? Chicks dig Steyr AUGs.

PPS I was serious. I hope it works out, try New Zealand if all else fails

PPS. Really, chicks dig Steyr AUGs. If you can get one in australia(A REAL Steyr AUG, not airsoft) then chicks WILL dig it.

GOOD LUCK

indeed... the "love from" might not mean anything...

hhmm i'm not sure but she doesn't sound like a "real bitch". i know the "love from" properly doesn't mean anything~"~ since alot of girls nower days use that ＿|￣|○"

btw whats Steyr AUGs?? i've never heard of it ~"~

still waiting for that reply............. ahh i dont think i can wait any longer!! >"<

becareful not to set yourself up for a major letdown.

hhmm should i be prepared to be show down?? if i get shot down i think i would be hit pretty hard ＿|￣|○" it seems that shes stuck in my head where ever i go.... maybe i should just give up~"~

so what was the last time you talked to her now?
also a steyer aug is a rifle australian sas use.

Yeah dude. I heard you can still get Steyr AUGs in Australia. Man they rule.

and another helpful hint. A Real bitch doesn't let her bitchness show until it is too late.

Besides...it's just a girl. There are plenty of fish in the sea. But seriously, a Steyr AUG will help you score.

why would a rifle help me score?? i dont really get it~~"

well I havn't met a REAL bitch in my life before... maybe just one i think.. but she really doesn't seem to be like it, i just cant imagine her like that ~"~

>>10 hmm the last time we talked was last year.. but everytime we talk now we always talk for 5-6 hours... she says she wants to try 7 hours next time we talk.

>>11

Because CHICKS DIG STEYR AUGs.

Eiga Otoko! i beleive you can do it!
althought i dont know why CHICKS DIG STEYR AUGs can help you score. anyway.. movie man (eiga otoko) if you really love her that much, i thin you should all by means confess to her. even if you do get rejected its not like its the end of the world and there are heaps of other girls waiting for ya! good luck for everything! hope next time you talk to her you have enough courage to tell her how you feel!

>>15
I disagree. What's with this confessing love bull crap. Unless the guy plans on going to Japan, paying all kinds of crazy money, and has a chance at actually entering the most holy of holies, then I say he takes up chasing skirt on his home turf. I mean, if he's still talking to the girl he could say "Hey man, I think you're cute. if you come to australia lemme hook up with you."

Otherwise he should seriously invest in buying a Steyr AUG. I KNOW you can buy them in Australia because I know a guy there and he has an AUG-Z with rails and scopes and shit. It's black too and hella cool. He gets all kinds of girls. Plus he has a Ford Falcon, fire engine red.

Benson, I don't know you but you are like the brother I never wanted. Do you really want to pine over some girl you'll never meet or do you want to score? Seriously, if all else fails go to New Zealand. I hear women over there are just crazy for Australianese.

What could it hurt?

Hate to do this, but...
>>11-13
>>15
Same person.

btw everyone... although i live in australia but i'm actualy chinese ~"~ i dont know why >>17 would think >>15 is me >"< however after reading your posts... I decided to try and forget this girl. >>16 does have a point, am i really planning go to and spend that money just to see her?? i mean even if she does accept it what next?? we cant even see each other but only hear voices. unless she has a webcam but still you still cant do much. maybe i will just remain good friends with her....＿|￣|○" But Thanks everyone for listning to my story, appreciate it! prehaps i will met someone same as her in australia one day!

>>18

Yeah dude, that's probably the best way to go. And hey, I didn't know you were chinese, but you're still cool in my book. There are plenty of young lasses traipsing around Australia, some of them even blond.

And hey, use that money you were GOING to spend to go to Japan and get yourself that Steyr AUG!

hahaha i noticed people didn't know i was chinese lol but stil thanks very much for the advice! maybe i will go look for that SteyR AUG lol! xD

>>18
That's because the IDs in >>11-13,15,18,20 are all 42XejFb+
Next time you're doing JISAKU JIEN in the dark of night, be sure to sage your post.

ahh apparently i just asked this girl out cos shes going to return some stuff she borrowed from me and i plan to take her to see fireworks on night, any suggestions wat i should do?!

btw i think >>15 might be a friend cos my friend was on my computer and he properly read the whole post >"<

eehh can soemone please help!! the girl messaged me back and asked "where do you want to go? what are we gonna do?" any suggestions what i should say?!! >"<

If this is the Japanese girl that you are getting over you tell her to go blow dirt. You're treating yourself to a Steyr AUG and don't need her mucking it all up.

If this is a new girl, Take her to an Italian restaurant(CLASSY restaurant). And then take her for ice cream afterward.

Trust me.

yeah this is a new girl!~ oh i see thanks!! i see what i can do! ^^ hope it works!

Now Benson...don't screw this up. I forgot to mention in >>24 some things.

Ok first of all, dress up a little bit. Not like you are going to a funeral but some slacks and a collar shirt(MAYBE a tie...depends) Whatever, just try to look kempt and presentable.

When you get to the place, pull her seat for her. AVOID SMALL TALK. Just enjoy the moment. Comment on the food, the atmosphere. BE HONEST AND GENUINE. Do not bullshit this girl, benson. If there is a moment of silence. GO WITH IT. If she wants to say something, she'll say it. EYE CONTACT IS IMPORTANT. Smile too. Nothing too toothy or fake.

If you are of age, order some wine. GOOD WINE. Like I said this should be a Classy Italian restaurant. Normally I don't like Italians or Italian food, but it is a good date food. It's rich, filling, and there is variety. Also, BE NICE TO THE WAITER. I don't care if he's so fruity his last name is Grape. BE NICE TO HIM. Women pick up on that. It's like if you are all nice to her, but an ass to someone else she'll think you are fake.(Hopefully you're a nice enough chap anyways..but still)
Also, Order for her. That's right ORDER FOR HER. Here is the classy way to do it.

Ask her what she wants before the waiter comes. Then when it's time to order say "The lady here will have XXXXX" Smile while you do it. Then after dinner, take her for ice cream. GOOD ice cream. Trust me.

Whatever, man. I hope you use this as a guide. Don't talk to her like you are doing an interview. AVOID POLITICS. AVOID TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE YOU BOTH KNOW. AVOID SWEARING. DO GLANCE AT HER BOOBS AND THEN LOOK INTO HER EYES AND SMILE. COMPLIMENT HER ON HER SMELL BUT DON'T BE CREEPY. COMPLIMENT HER ON HER HAIR.

Also when you get done with the date. DO NOT EXPECT A KISS. Give her a hug. If she does kiss you it might be a peck on the cheek, but otherwise give her a hug. Don't touch her ass or anything.

Also, DO NOT SPEND MORE THAN 50 DOLLARS US ON HER. DON'T.

But otherwise, be yourself. Save talk of Steyr AUGs for the third or fourth date. Then(and you ARE getting one aren't you?) take her shooting. Tell her how cute she looks holding a Steyr AUG. Take pictures of her. Post them here.

YOU KNOW NOW WHAT YOU MUST DO, BENSON. DON'T SCREW IT UP!

wow! thanks alot! but i dont think shes intrested in a Steyr AUG lol! Thanks for all that ^^

>>26 is a recipe for her having an allergy attack because you ordered something she didn't know what it was and was deathly allergic to, resulting in her brother coming to kill you

you might want to get the Steyr AUG beforehand just in case

hmm apparently she suddenly offline when i was talking to her on msn today~"~ she cant go out on night so might go out during day though... properly just ask her out for lunch or a movie i think ＿|￣|○" what do you guys think?

>>29

Movies are lame for first dates. She can see a damn movie on her own time.

Lunch is good, take her somewhere outdoorsy. Like a patio cafe or something.

>>28
doesn't know what he's talking about. Make sure she wants what she wants and THEN order for her. That way if she dies it is her own damn fault.

oohh okk! thanks for that ^^

it seems she hasn't replied me... maybe she got dissapointed that i didn't know where to go ＿|￣|○" she was only planning to return something she borrowed from me so really wasn't that big, but thanks alot for all that! maybe i can use it in the future ^^

I still cant get the jap girl out of my head, and stil waiting....＿|￣|○"

Still no news from her?

does the jap girl know ur chinese XD

yeah she knows I'm chinese, I am so hopeless when it comes to girls ＿|￣|○"

Hey I was lurking around and cool I see you hey sup just came from the Densha Otoko thread eh? everyone ditched me there =P

wow sorry for double posting but I can't help but feel that this is like mini densha otoko remake XD

go you w00t XD but ya sigh I know how life can be a well you know...

(sorry for adding this in here where it doesn't belong but ya... hope you don't mind benson hehe ya internet love don' trust it, 9 out of 10 times it doesn't work out even if it does, the chance of seeing the person is slim as for the current one you are going for ya like what the other dude said don't spend too much or she might just start milking you, you can spend more later on but don't start heavily spending from start basically work your way up.)

lol just like Densha＿|￣|○

hahaha, good to see you here xD>>36 well when i talk to her, i only spend the night talking cos its the only time we can talk. theres so many densha alike in this thead, maybe this is what this thead does lol, stil waiting...＿|￣|○

>>38

Benson, you are doing it wrong. Stop fooling around and buy that Steyr AUG

Hmmm Gun Otaku trying to date online girl wee for guitar otoko remix XD

(btw what do you type to get the ">>38" in blue font thing

well.... I guess it depends on what you are looking for I used to online date someone before.
I met that person off RO(Ragnarok Online XD) it was pretty
good for a year, since at that time I was too busy to actually
go out and stuff. The online relationship allowed me to get
the comfort and company I needed without going to too much
trouble. But the thing was I found out she lived 9 blocks from
where I am (ya its a small world sometimes) anyhow we met at a
dance after and it turned out okish but then her dad stepped
in... but bah why am I ranting... back to you^^.

Basically I guess its what you are looking for in the end.
If you are looking for a long steady relationship with cuddles
and what not, then online is probably not the way to go.
Because its really hard to meet someone offline,

and Benson cheer up I'm chinese too^^ not all hope is lost XD

(got search Yellow Fever on youtube.com
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIIoc8R26iM) It has a point in the end watch it.

=P

>>40

W T F?! Did...did you just call me an "otaku", boy?
I don't normally help chinese people(there are only two that I actually do like..and yes I have known more chinese than I care to)

I'm sitting here...trying to give good advice.

Getting a Steyr AUG is the BEST POSSIBLE ADVICE I can give this man. He's not getting laid because HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE.

You know what...I'll be damned if I help any of you again.....

gun otaku......the nerve.

>>41
best poster on /love/

>> 41

Oooh noooooo I didn't meant you, I meant benson I was refering to a japanese tv show called densha otoko that we both watched before

Sorry for the miscommunication, and if you took it that offensively

My apologizes.
(to be honest though Steyr AUG is good that gun is underrated in even in CS XD and I know alot of SAS used that gun a lot)

waah!!~~ whats going on?! we're fighting because >>40 called >>41 gun otoko?!??! Sorry that this happened!! ~~" thier was a misunderstanding! Aquilo was refering to me ＿|￣|○

anyway lol for the Gun Otoko! i thought i would be called movie Otoko xD

Sending my wish
Everyone on this thread will recieve joy and happiness

wow Thanks!!^^ u too!

>>45

posting in this thread because I need joy and happiness ^^

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I'm personally really pissed that he just forgot about the japanese girl like that. Money is only a way to realize our dreams. One thing thats important is a feeling. If you just want to fuck, then you can wank or something. But rejecting something that might have been a real feeling is a bad decision (in my opinion). She never acted like a bitch. I had a few girls in my life and I can tell you one thing. It's really damn hard to find one that will understand you completly. If you'll find the one that you can talk with for the whole night, it might be the love of your life. Someday you'll be old. Your wife will be old too. She won't be as cute as in the past, but you'll still enjoy your life together because you'll be like two parts of the same apple. I would never fuck a girl that would fell for my Rifle. This kind of girls is so called FANTA (Fuck And Never Touch Again). So if you're still reading this thread, just reconsider all this matter. If you'll still think about being with the jap girl as of "I'll be wasting loads of cash to visit her", then just forget about her cuz you're not worth her. Thats what I had to say.

If it comes to "Love" in the sig. it really means nothing. I have a pen pal friend from Japan and she always finishes her mails with Love Yuko. If your friend just started this habbit it may mean that she just starts to feel something. Why the hell all the guys tries to rush it and confess ASAP? Just enjoy the feeling you have, keep it going and maybe one day you won't even have to say it. Just wait for a good moment and when it comes you won't need advice from 4-ch and you'll just tell her what you feel.

PS. It's your life, just do what you want.

well i'm not the kind of guy who just wants to F*** girls, from the previouse post some people been saying "whats the point of having long distance!" i understand what you mean when you said its damn hard to find one that wiil understand you becasue from the girls i have met, she really is different. actuali i never thought it was a waste of money to visit her! i had a thought of doing it one day cos firstly, i can see her, secondly, i want to visit differeny places and thirdly, i really want to go to japan again cos i been there once and i really want to see the cherry blossoms ^^

Personaly i really appreciate everyone on this thread, willing to read my story and help out. some people properly think I'm just an Otaku and hopeless at everything ＿|￣|○ although i dont know anyone here but truly... thank you! I appreciate everyone trying to help me.

well so far I still havn't heard from her yet, but i beleive within 3 weeks i would hear from her soon! I'm gonna wait for another 2-3 months till she replies. Maybe i will write her a letter! I think >>49 is right, i should just wait for a good moment then tell her how i feel, maybe i been rushing things again >"< Well I'll report when something happens and let you guys know!

Everything too me now seems like i just woke up from a dream and back to my lonley anonymouse life.... 1 month waiting felt like 5 months ~~" is it true that if you truely like someone, time seems to be slower without them but is faster when your with them?

yup. It's just the same like when you're having a good fun or you're bored. And it's the same like waiting for the X-mas presents. Have you tried to contact her?

well i did email her once and been waiting ever since!~ somehow i keep thinking the reply will be here soon, maybe i just need to keep waiting.

hey everyone i need SERIOUS help! apparently i found out this girl likes me but i dont like her. shes a family friend and we only got to know each other this year for a bout 2 months. me and her friend pretended that her friend asked me to be her bf and she took it soo serious and i heard she couldn't sleep at all, me and the friend told her today and she got pretty upset i think. well the problem is (this is what i plan) she knows who i like which is the jap girl "aya" and knows the i been waiting for about 2 months now. I'm going to pretend that i talked to the jap girl and confessed and that she liked me also so that shes my gf. if i do that she will give up but i feel so bad doing that >"< any suggestsion anyone???

so first you want a girlfriend but she doesn't want you, then some other girl is into you but you don't want a piece of that?

>>54
um... don't like, lol
You will get fucked and then NO girl will want you

>>54
for starters, stop writing like that

>>1

>I'm usualy just a lurker around the board

you're in every damn thread i read, benson_2009.

nominating "benson_200n" as the new anonymous name, where n is some number.

>>59 My suggestion? Don't lie to this girl, tell her the truth so she can move on with her life. Nobody said you have to force yourself to like her. Show some decency by telling her gently that you're not interested in her, or her friend for that matter, and that you're interested in someone else right now. Also, pretending to get asked out by her friend is just low, shame on you both.

Trust me, you'll only make things worse by lying to her.

hmm thats true, its bad to play with peoples feelings... i should know better >"< your right i should just tell her the truth.... lying only makes this worse, thanks for that! ^^

has she replied you yet?

sorry to doulble post but...>>56 you sound like a flamer in most of the theads. lol not very supportive

ya... ID:Heaven from the Flim & TV Densha Otoko thread lol XD

ID:Heaven is what you get when you sage the thread; it's not the same person every time.

I find it really hard to talk to girls now, since i cant really use the internet much nower days and stil waiting for the reply... i begin to think how am i gonna find relationship, somehow my intrest on girls is lost ~"~ i somehow think it has to do with my past since i been tricked a few times...

i think you should just stop worring about it.
seams like its taking a lot out of you.
dont worry eventualy everyone finds their someone,
you just have to accept that this girl might not be that person.

After waiting for 3 months, i dont think i can wait any longer. I'm thinking of moving on with my life, theres realy no point waiting here all day. i dont blame her or anything its just that i cant wait anymore. day by day my feeling just start to loose and eventualy all that feelings are lost now. what do you think i should do now?＿|￣|○

move on, find someone new.

move on, you should have done that ages ago instead of waiting.

hmm i'll try moving on, waiting here really doesn't help at all. thanks for that!

Hi Benson I just read what you said and I found it interesting. However, I don't think you should give up on this Japanese girl if you like her so much. Have you tried sending her another message? Maybe the one you sent her forever ago never got to her? By the way how did you just lose contact with her? Does she not get on skype anymore?

Wishing you the best of luck eiga otoko!

benson...dont listen to >>72. Move on, don't wait, just move on.

>>73
I'm not saying he should just wait I'm just curious more about the situation.

>>74
if you curious about the situation, read the thread, it should be enough.

I mean Come on, I believe 72 is right! If you really like her...did you did anything to get her attention besides waiting for her? Maybe her com crash or something bad happen? No one knows...Until the day you know the reason why she just left not contacting you, you shouldn't be thinking that she out there to play you. If she is, i dont think anyone would be that stupid to spend hours talking to you or something like that.I understand that long distance relationship is definately hard to maintain so ...just for backup..if you really feel that you cant handle such a relation..i suggest you be practical and not get yourself a long-distance relationship

>>76

you are asking if benson didnt do enough to get her attention, but what about her not doing enough to keep contact? i mean, if she truly cared about him, even remotely, you would think that she would find someone to write him even a simple email. you are saying he didnt do enough, im saying she didnt do enough and isnt worth it, so he should just move on.

which is why i say if he cant think positive on a long-distance relationship just give up and find something more realistic. But if lets just say that the girl did really get caught up with something or maybe couldnt find a way to get to him? there are lots of possibilities that he has to lay out depending on whether if he's willing or not.

its true she has a life and she probably got caught up, but honestly, a email doesnt shouldnt take more than an hour to write just saying "im going to be busy for awhile" and there is always a way to get to a person. always, especially in today's society.

nothing to see here, move along.....

sage for a nihilist complaining.

oops, wrong thread, har har.

hey everyone! sorry i havn't been on for a while..... well i did send a letter to her 4 weeks ago since she didn't reply on email. its true... i've only waited and didn't take any action, cos i thought if i kept on sending emails she would properly get annoyed. i really thought alot of possibilties like she was too busy with work or something must have happened because it really doesn't seem like her to just suddenly dissappear like that, there must be a reason and she isn't a type of person who would not contact you all of a sudden. i mean why would she talk to me for 6 hours if she was just using me or playing around?? well wat do u guys suggest me to do?? i moved on a bit and she kinda disappeared in my mind for a while. my friends keep saying "give up, she wont ever reply" but somehow i just think that she will reply, or that we will somehow contact each other. its almsot 4 months now... what should i do??

-Eiga Otoko

hello there benson.i have almost the same experience with you.having an online relationship and living long distance.but what seperate us is that i was really glad that i got to meet her in person when i got back home(i'm studying oversea and she's at my home country).we do spend a lot of time e-mailing and talking to each other and even it cost me a lot that time it just don't matter(we can't use skype).it's true that i also did confess to her on the phone,it's really take courage.as for you benson,it's unlucky that you didn't have chance to confess to her.i was thinking that maybe she has waited for you to confess long enough or maybe she just met someone in real life and they started dating.i know that the truth is painful,but there must be reason for her to left you just like that.there is no certainty in online relationship,the thing you need the most is trust.looking at your condition now,it's been really long since you last contacted her.there is possibly chance that she might contact you back,but if it is 4 months already,i think it's to long enough.all that i could say,move on benson-san,there is more waiting for good guy like you.yes,it's a miracle that she will contact you back.but waiting long enough for nothing is not really worth it!!

>>84 hmm i see, well i moved on a bit. I was going to confess to her but didn't expect this to happen, can you guys think of any possiblities that she didn't reply??

-電影男

>>85 umm why cant u just move on and accept the fact that shes not going to reply. it doesnt matter why but if u so want to know then why dont u email her or something asking why. i still dont understand how u can have hope after 4 months. its pretty obvius what happened

That's the problem with you Chinese people; always so shy. Send another e-mail asking if she recieved the previous one, since you haven't gotten a reply yet. No girl should be annoyed by that (unless the girl in question is being a total bitch).

yeah.to think why she didn't reply is not really a good idea..there's to many possibilities for the reason..and the best way to ask her again.move on a bit..don't put hope to much for things that unlikely to happen..i know it's painful..but this is life..

well i did send another email but i doubt i wil get a reply. i moved on a bit and currently i'm going out with this girl this week lol, any suggestions of places i should take her?

-電影男

>>89

See >>26.

oh yea I'll try that, i'll report back what happens! date is on this saturday at noon ^^

benson, i would avoid anything fancy and just go for a causal date. since its at noon, a fancy date will not be appropriate. plus fancy dates will make her nervous, and thats bad. rule #1 about first dates: keep her comfortable. when she gets uncomfortable it will end bad for you. and to keep her comfortable you need to be comfortable/relax.

dress comfortable and respectable, slacks, nice shirt, nice shoes, shower, put deodorant on. make sure the car is clean if you are driving.

i would recommend getting some pizza at a nice, causal place. then afterwards take her out to play some mini-golf (depending on weather) or something else like that. this way you can relax, enjoy the weather and each other company, but most importantly both of you will have fun. talk to her, tease her a little and in pure jest like making fun of her swinging style or bet her that she will miss the putt. make sure you smile too when you tease her to show you are playing, make sure you dont come off as a giant asshole. after the game get some ice cream to cool off and take her home.

its important that you be yourself, dont act like she is a potential girlfriend and place her on a pedestal because she is a woman. treat her like a mate, a extremely cute mate, but a mate none the less.

i wish you luck with your date.

thanks alot! i didn't have anything fancy in mind and i think what you say is the best. I'll report back tomorow and tell you guys what happens! ^^

-電影男

well apparently, the girl couldn't come cos of family stuff happening. i mite ask her out again next time and hope that she can go! recently we been smsing and she keeps saying i'm cute and that i'm really nice and easy to talk to, does that mean anything?

-電影男

i guess it means something. try again for another date, and if it falls through again because of her then forgot about her even if she says you are cute and nice; actions speak louder than words.

ok i'll see what happens later! thanks for that!

-電影男

BIG NEWS!!! I FINALY GOT A REPLY FROM THE JAPANESE GIRL!!! 4 months!! i cant beleive it! 4 months and now i finaly got a reply!!! this is wat she wrote:

Hey Benson,

How are you doing? I'm doing fine.

I'm so sorry about I didnt email you for a long time..I have been so busy.

I'll check your web site soon. :)

anyway I have to go now.

see ya,

Aya xx

hmm well not much replied but i knew she was really busy, i hope i dont need to wait for another 4 months now... wat do u guys think??

-電影男

shit. well at least we know she is still breathing. how did that date go with the girl?

Just send her some nice e-mail...

100GET and for fucks sake please stop putting the 男 crap after your name already

>>100
Seconded

>>100
Thirded

Ive been waiting, too
r2_jane@yahoo.co.jp

I definitely understand how hard it is when you've begun devoloping feelings for a friend like J. But the thing is, it sounds to me you two are on the same wavelengths. I think I'm with the rest of the guys and tell you to take hold of her!

Sorry, I mistyped this message (104) and meant for another thread. My apologies!

By the way Benson, 4 months is a REALLY long time... I'm not quite sure what's going on here. I just hope it works out in the end.

>>106
Maybe she found this board

well i'm a tad confused at the moment cos the feeling i had with the japanese girl was lost for a while, i'm just afraid i'm gonna wait for another 4 months or something... i'll be surprised if she found this board, prob got freaked lol.

>>98 lol i said the girl didn't show up cos of family business or something.. didn't go well with her cos she doesn't talk much so i didn't bother. I sent a normal email to the jap girl yesterday so hopefully it wont take long for her to reply. btw how do you sage a post??

write "sage" in the link box. it adds your post to the thread without bumping the thread back to the top of the page.

ok cool!

I have no idea what's going on, but benson_2009, you're such a loser. Have phone sex with her already.

And when you meet her, go to a hotel and relieve your frustrations already. Read my other posts if u want advice.

sorry but i aint the kind of guy that just want sex, your in the wrong thread man

>>111
DISREGARD THAT, I SUCK COCKS

Yo, Eiga Otoko, any updates/emails from the Japanese girl? I am in Tokyo right now you should have me go tell her to email you. Ahahaha.
Goodluck!

hahah she doesn't live in tokyo, she lives in hyogo i think. have fun in japan!

You never did take my advice and get that Steyr AUG, did you?

>>116
You never did take my advice and chop off your penis, did you?

You never gave me that kind of advice.

Hey man, you can kiss my ass.

Benson is like a goddamned brother to me, man.

hahaha i'll save up the money for it and you need a gun lincense to buy guns here. lol whats with the flaming?! well there wasn't much news about the jap girl so thats why i didn't come on much. at the moment i am thinking of emailing her to ask if she has any time to talk to me so i could maybe confess. even if its just a minute i really want to talk to her, i havn't got anything since the last email and been living my boring life like this waiting for something that i probably forgotten.

>>118 everyone here are like brothers to me, this has got to be one big event in my life to be honest, even though i dont know anyone here but you guys are the best! i love this message board.

benson, as a your brah, i gotta say, you have patience. give the confession a shot, but i wouldnt expect a happy ending out of it (citing the lack of communication). but go ahead, she lives in japan, so i doubt it she would hunt you down with a stery aug for confessing.

Brother Benson, you are a very shy person, no?

hahaha yea i am a shy type person, i guess i'll give it another shot! wish me luck~!! thanks again!

hiya, well im a n00b on this forum, but i was reading this topic, and its pretty interesting. but man, 4 months for a reply? something must be going on, unless like her comp blew up or never went online after that cuz thats a long time. Hope that u can have contact with this girl and able to get your confession out sometime soon. g/l man, i'll keep reading on about this =)

btw, what this penpal site u went to? im interested in talking to people arouund the world =)

hey everyone
i emailed the jap girl saying that i have something big i must tell her. i was thinking of showing the message board to her but i thought about it, would that scare the crap out of her?? to be honest i really dont know, i dont want to be obsesed with her and when i get shot down i'll prob go to mental mode going crazy and stuff. so right now, maybe she got scared of me but i didn't say anything to make it look like i like her or something. well i guess i can only WAIT again, seems like its always like that. lol everyone keeps saying i got alot of patience to wait 4 months xD

>>123 http://www.yorihuzi.net/1--8-1.html thats the website i met the jap girl.

what kind of a friend are you by still referring to her as 'the jap girl'? Do you even know 'jap' is offensive? Give her a name here, dammit. I'll leave the rest of your problem to the other guys here.

>>125
About as offensive as calling a british person a brit. Stop fagging up the thread with your stupid shit if you're not even going to help him. LOL IRONY

benson sounds like he's confusing a bit from Densha otoko into his own life... with the showing his JP girl this site and all...

>>125 hahahaha sorry i didn't know that, well her name is Aya.
yeah i know its similar in densha otoko when hermes finds out about the message board, but the reason why i want to show her the message board is to show how crazy i was waiting for 4 months. basicly my feelings about aya is all in here so if she read this she will know how i feel. i dont want to sounds weird or a looser but god i'm really confused atm, i thought that she might be scared of me but doesn't seem to be like that cos before i was waiting for 4 months, she asked "when can i talk to you?" on her email. it just doesn't make sense, maybe she really was so busy, i really dont know. i'm even more scared to confess now, maybe that would scare the creeps out of her.

to be honest, i havn't been this crazy about a girl, usualy i move on really easily but... for some reason, i can just keep waiting like this. she really is different from other girls i met and known. i really wish i can just hear her voice one more time... even if its for a minute. i know i really shouldn't be this crazy about a girl especially one that you cant even see and are miles away from you. maybe i really suck at these stuff, prob why i am still single. well i guess i just have to keep waiting... nothing else i can do really lol. i just hope i dont have to wait too long.

but you've only talked to her through internet right? Have you even meet once? If not, can you really say you really like her?

do you REALLY want her to read all those "stick it in her pooper"-like posts? I don't know if it'd be a good idea. I'm not sure how realistic Herme's reaction was in densha. goodness knows, she may not react so positively in the end.

Itai!!!! ;D

anyways, i wouldnt show her this board, well at least not all the replies here. btw, are u ever able to see this girl? lets say u like each other, how r u going to ever see her? she lives like on the other side of the world, and long distance relationships are pretty hard to maintain.

but, if it will make u feel better, u should tell her, because its going to suck later if u dont and then have regret or like wonder about what would of happened if u ever did tell her. might as well get her reaction from her and dont have regret in the future. trust me, its the worst thing to have when u get older.

I think benson_2009 is trying too much to be like Densha Otoko. Why? He came from that thread, and clearly showed that he watched it. He tries to live a fairy tale by waiting 4 months from a girl in Japan when he lives in Australia. His heart seemingly fluttered when he got the word Love written in his email, and he doesn't understand the Japanese girls last message. 4 months without communication says 2 things: 1) You're not part of her life anymore, and 2) She has a boyfriend. By the way she responded, you can tell that she had something busy to do. Even for a Japanese girl, she should be able to get online if she was able to before. She gave you no clue on what she was doing, nor did she give you a clue on why she had to leave. You're obviously trying to get a GF because you chase two different girls, then when a girl likes you, you end up not liking her not because she was your family friend, but either 1) personality or 2) looks.

What I suggest is just act yourself. Stop trying to be and live something you aren't. I myself watched Densha Otoko, and it is in my opinion that you should do what he learned to do when he confessed: You live your life and move on.

Ja Ne.

>>126 Various of my japanese friends found it offensive to be called japs. In my country its common knowledge that Jap is an insult, and used that way. Anyway, what bothered me is that he didn't have the manners to stop referring to her as sort of a third party.

If you want to flame, fine, but do it properly.

>>132

I agree. Benson, just move on with your life, stop thinking about the girl, and soon you'll realise that you only loved her based on your fantasy ideal image, not because of the person she actually is - a person you never got to meet or know in real life.

Benson, I've been following this thread from the sidelines till now, but feel compelled to comment due to recent developments. In my opinion, it is a large mistake to show Aya this thread because it will send the wrong message.

When you are uncertain of something, there are two things you can do: 1) do nothing but hope for the best. 2) act and find out. Until now you've basically been at (1) and now you're trying to move to (2), but there are risks. This risk consists of the chance that she tells you in clear terms that she does not feel the way about you that you wanted her to. Other possibilities are that she clearly does like you a lot, or an unclear statement either way.

It is laudable that you want to act, and understandable that you waited a long time for this. After all you seem to sincerely like this girl and a rejection would definitely hurt you. However, the nature of her feelings towards you are already set. There is not much you can do to change these. All that matters is that you are clear about Aya's feelings for you.

So you want to elicit a response from her to get some clarity. At least you want to be sure that she doesn't break communications for 4 months yet again. Now you assume that when Aya reads this thread, she will understand how you think. I think she will understand that you are a dreamer. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't seem very appealing to a girl, I think (it's different than being in touch with your emotions, which they do dig). It also tells her that you are too lazy or scared to tell her in person (a letter in fact) that you enjoy her attention.

For that reason, and also that she might get suspicious that you set some of your posts up more as confessions than as contributions to the thread, I strongly recommend you not to show her this thread. Instead, I would in your case write to Aya that you enjoy her replies, and talking to her. It doesn't even have to be a letter with that theme, you could also write it as a side-note in some other correspondence as long as its clear you value her. This should not be harmful as long as it isn't done too cheesy. You could post a draft and we'll evaluate it for you.

cheers,
Demian

after reading the posts, i understand what you mean. its true that i am a big dreamer since i often day dream alot. honestly i really think she might have got a bf after reading what >>132 said. i understand why people say i am trying to live like densha otoko and part of it is true, i really am a big dreamer cos during that 4 months of waiting, i would just day dream about meeting aya and confessing. i 100% agree with >>135, if i show her the thead it really thinks i set all this up for a confession.

i really would like to move on and i dont think it should be too hard but there will be things that remind me of Aya. i did write her a letter saying how i really enjoyed talking to her and that it felt like a dream since i havn't talk to her for so long. maybe i should just make Aya a really good memory, but the biggest problem is its hard for me to socialize with girls that i know here. most think i'm a weirdo since i dream too much, some wont even bother talking or even say hi. to be honest i'm sort of like a otaku, instead of talking to people now i just watch tv, movies and anime. not that i'm trying to be like densha but thats what i really do nower days, i was so sick of being ignored by people that i didn't talk to anyone for a long time and being posting on this thread. its hard to beleive but thats what life is for me.

thats why i said this thread has been a big part of my life since i dont really socialize with people now. i dont think i would confess to Aya anymore but remain good friends, which i think is the best since i can move on and stay in touch with her. well realyl depends if i ever get a reply anymore but thanks guys for those great advice! really appreciate the help.

>>132 and >>135

I think you saved benson's life.

Benson, unfortunately I can relate very well how much of a problem it is to be a dreamer. I too, I am trapped in a fog of silly lazy dreams which hold me from making real accomplishments in my life. By reading manga, watching anime, listening to music - the like, I waste most of my day. The worst part is that I realize my problem everyday, am guilty of perpetrating it every new day.

Its really hard to break out of the cocoon of the dreamer. Its walls are thick and fluffy, cozy and warm. To break out of it, I need real a goal stronger than a dream. But what star can perpetrate these walls? And once I escape, its so tempting to return. I wish I could have the inner guidance to steer towards an honourable goal.

There are certain girls which I like, but I know they won't choose to be around me since I hardly accomplish anything of meaning. There is only one way to alter this situation, which is to do real work and not to let myself get dragged down in the quicksand of lamenes. But is it sufficient? I don't know. In a world where any goal can be disputed for its worth, what goal can be pursued without faltering? I must find a solution soon, for can no longer be a child, have to take up responsibility for my own life.

I can conceive of girls liking me for what I am. The girls I like are not among them and I feel I have nothing to say to them, nothing that won't make me look like a loser to them. So I don't. I sense there is no point to approach the girls I like because I am not the guy I want to be. That person should be with them, not me.

Anyway Benson, we've got to live in reality, whatever that is, as much as we can. However great our dreams are, it involves only one person, us. And loneliness just isn't fun.

ps. I owe you an apology, because in post nr 1 you did actually introduce Aya.

>>138 i think i know what you mean, i'm about the same. everytime i like a girl, it seems i had to hide about my innder dreamer side from them and when i do that i feel unconfortable since i'm not use to it. but one of the problem is i use to be able to talk to these girls and can chat alot, but now i just cant seem to have a nice normal chat with them anymore, just completly speechless. its always the same like "hi hows ur day?, not bad u? pretty good" something like that.

well the good thing is i moved aya from my life now, actually i did that a long time ago but there are just things that remind me of her. well all i can think of is probably wait to meet another girl in the future or something otherwise i'll be stuck in this thread xD i dont really trust most girls i know here cos most of them were just using me, that was mostly in the past. seriously are you suppose to be nice to a girl or just act cool?? i mean i'm nice to all the girls i talk to but it seems it makes me look soft but then if you act cool it just makes you look like an idiot. prehaps i should stop focusing on relationships and focus on something else, maybe that would do better, what do you guys think?

i think that's a good idea benson

BIG NEWS AGAIN!!!! ANOTHER REPLY!!!! AND THIS TIME I AM TALKING TO AYA!!!!
Hey Benson!!

I'm sorry about I didnt email you for a long time..

hm.. I'd like to talk to you on 18th..Okay?? I'm exciting about listen your news!!haha

well I'll have history exams tomorrow..I hope I can do well on it..

see ya!

Aya

dw guys i aint gonna tell her about the message board, i just got so many things to tell her!! its been like 7 months since we talked. well hope it goes well! cant wait! i'm seriously over excited and i know i shouldn't

Benson! The 18th is coming up! I hope all goes well!

I just recently discovered 4-ch (through 4chan.org, oddly enough) and I finished reading this thread only moments ago. I am, however, drawn into your story. I've nothing to say that hasn't already been said, however I wish you the best of luck.

>>143
Please sage if you have nothing to say. Type "sage" in the link field when you post. It prevents the thread bumping back to the top of the page.

Thanks.

Benson, what happened? It's past the eighteenth. Any luck?

i'd like to know too !

haha i thought this thread died, well the 18th........ she never came on and i waited till 12 AM that night, was very disappointed but i emailed her saying if she has time i would like to talk to her again. but oh well, i really dont know what to do now cept wait again, however i been emailing with this girl latley but she... how to say... she looks like a kid!! shes nice, seem to get along really well but i think we're just good friends. lol to be honest i think i'm really bad when it comes to girls, i think the big problem is that i'm not ready and not serious enough to have a relationship at the moment, i just think theres something more i should do before going into those stuff, i'm not to sure. well with aya i just have to wait for her next reply, mayb in a monthi presume.... surprised this thread is still alive lol! thanks for the post and wish everyone the best!!

Benson, honestly it's not that hard for someone to reply to e-mails. The fact that it takes her a month to reply is not a good sign. Either she does not use the computer but once a month, or she is blowing you off like she did on the 18th every time you e-mail her. If it is the former, then she could not possibly know enough about internet subleties to form a viable feeling for you over the internet because it is not a big part of her life. If it is the second, then she obviously has no permanent feelings for you, and digs you up when she is lonely. Either way you're setting yourself up for a world of hurt. You cannot possibly woo her with chatting only once a month. I urge you not to spend your youthful years pining after the unatainable. You will find yourself an old man pining after his youth. Perhaps the best thing you could do now is buy that Steyr AUG that another secret admirer suggested earlier in this thread. In reality, it would have as much effect on your friendship/relationship with Aya as anything else you could do during the silent months. This may be better conveyed by a sports reference. The ball is in her court and she's not dribbling. I hope everything works out for you Benson, one way or another.
rx

thanks for that, i'm not actuali like OBSESED with her or anything, well it does make sense if she has no permant feelings for me but that doesn't really matter. i realized that waiting here will just make me worse so i moved on a while ago, its hard to think the reasons why she email me once a month when we use to email each other like every 2 days or so. i dont know her very well since we never met and only talked a few times last year. lol maybe i'll just save up for that Steyr AUG xD well keep you guys posted if anything comes up!

hey guys!
your not gonna beleive it! i got Aya's mobile no.!! shes in hawaii at the moment for vacation and gonna stay there for 3 weeks. i told her i might visit her end of year cos i mite be going to japan for a holiday, she wrote "please call me if you come to japan!!" lol this email didn't take long, only took 2 weeks hahahaha xD

>>150
yeah, must be the delays in getting the mail all the way from japan to australia.

>>151
fucking pony express are getting slower and slower.

hey guys!
just got an package from a girl over seas, shes a family friend of mine. sent all these stationy stuff she made, has my name all over it LOL. anyway i just recieved an email from Aya in Hawaii, she says she wants to send me a letter. my week just keeps getting better and better ^^

hey everyone
i just recieved a postcard from aya, lol the front cover says "thinking of you in hawaii". nothing much written on it cept that its hot there and asked how i was and how everything is going here. she describes how hawaii is such a nice place and that if i ever get a chance to go i should go. well pretty happy about the post card xD

Your the Man Benson_2009!!!!! This girl loves you! This is amazing! An otaku like myself, who want's to become a director, like myself, is actually loved by an asian girl.(though the fact I'm also asian) HAHA!

Aw, what a great story :)

Keep us updated, Benson.
I think something might even happen from this :D

>>156
Forgot to mention that it has been 5 months already!
Amazing :)

hahaha thanks guys!! looks like there really is something going on here!! well i hope lol! i'll be sure to keep you guys updated! :)

>>157 5 months?! really?! i didn't even notice... wow!

There will never come anything out of it. Get over her already and search for a better girl, one that doesn't play with you and that you can have an actual love relation with.

I know it sounds harsh, but that's the way it is.

>>159 agreed

>>161 thanks for the advice, it was very hard for me to make films especially last year when alot of people was agaisnt it, but now i'm saying exactly what you said "screw what people think!" i mean its my future not thiers and they can think whatever they want. lol i know the film industry is a difficult one but i'm gonna try my best to get in it from bottom to top!

>>159 hmm its not really harsh, more like the truth. alot of people have said that shes just playing with me but i dont know why something just doesn't feel like that. well i'm gonna see whats going to happen, it isn't the best choice to decide to get over things now.

benson you are breaking my balls here. you are so in love with this girl, but is she in love with you? i have been reading your story since the beginning and its been the same cycle: you talk to her, she disappears, you think about moving on, she comes back and you talk to her. get out of this pointless self destructive cycle. nothing is going to change. it is male nature to want a girl who rejects, it is just the way we are built. just get over it. many people here, including myself, have been saying to move on, she isnt worth it. i dont want to sound like a broken record, but she isnt worth it, move on. this isnt densha otoko, this isnt a book or a movie, this is real life, this is your life, dont waste it, please.

Okay, from what I've read, it sounds like you're the type of guy who jumps the gun alot.

Firstly, when a girl ends her letters in "luv aya", it does not imply anything serious. More likely, she feels acquainted with you and sees you as a friend. Please stop assuming that she is interested in you just because she sends you a couple of emails occasionally. I can tell you that if it takes her that long to reply to an email then obviously she has her own life. Her priority is not you. Ie: She is a smart girl who is simply looking for a friend in you.

Secondly, with no disrespect to anyone, I can hardly see how you can fall in love with some when there's a language barrier between you. I mean, from teh email that you posted here, it seems like the convos are really shallow, and essentially a bunch of light and polite conversation. No offence to her, but her english is too dodgy to draw any value from it. Perhaps the language barrier might've worked if you guys regularly conversed and met each other in real life, but as it stands I think you're decieving yourself if you're actually seeing sparks.

Thirdly, I really don't think you know anything about love. Or perhaps you are too young to. In the process of chasing "Aya", you also seem very open minded to other girls from overseas. I can tell you that relationships and feelings don't just start from an exchange of the occasional word on the internet. What's more, you constantly refer to "Aya" as "the jap girl". By labelling her like that shows me you don't really love her.

Lastly, you should just get on with life and meet girls that you can easily ACCESS. Maybe then you'll get a grasp to understand girls and I won't have to be reading cringing stories like this on the internet anymore. I can't believe noone has told you this. If you really are trying to imitate Densha Otako, this comes nothing close to it. At least in his situation the girl was within metres of him, not thousands of kilometres. Get back to reality.

>>162 but i dont know why something just doesn't feel like that
It /never/ feels like that. I learned this the hard way. Please don't make the mistake I did.

>>164
Agreed.

I am Australian too. I talked to a girl on msn for almost a year and I thought I really loved her, but her suicidial tendencies and the fact that she was bisexual meant that I regretted ever wasting that much time telling her not to kill herself.

And, yeah, go with the Steyr AUG. Chicks dig them.

And no, Jap is not really that acceptable, even in Australia. The japanese make up a huge chunk of Australia. And I am fucking glad that that do.

>>166
STFU, I know for a FACT that love can remove a girl's suicidality.
Bis rule dude, I have a lot of bi friends and its awesome knowing girls as perved as you.

What the hell is the big deal about this Steyr AUG? It's just a freakin' gun, jeez. ¬_¬ If a guy needs a gun to be secure in his masculinity, then he's got bigger problems than finding women.

i dare you to say that when he has a steyr aug in your face.

>>167
what are you smoking? there's hardly any japanese in australia, relatively speaking. lots of chinese and vietnamese around, though.

>>167
you obviously don't live in australia, or you assume every black haired person is japanese. fail either way.

ok guys lay out the flaming lol
what i dont understand is that alot of people are urging me to get this Steyr AUG gun, is it really that attractive to get a gun?!!

yea its true, hardly any japanese here in australia, mostly chinese like from hong kong or taiwan like my self. about why i called aya "Jap girl" was becasue i didn't know what to call her and didn't thought of saying her real name, i had no idea it was offensive since people in australia here talk so slang most of the time...if i knew i would never had said it so thats why i call her by her real name.

to be honest i am very confused right now, its true i know nothing about love because i never been in love before. reason why i like aya so much was last year was like hell for me, like i said in my first post i was basicly bullied by these group of people. for about a whole year, all i knew was hatred and darkness, i almost gave up. intill the day i met aya, it was a feeling i havn't felt for ages, i was happy, like really happy especially when we talked on skype. for the first time a girl wanted to talk to me i was like "wooww" but thats prob nothing... so basicly, aya saved me from the hard times. i know its hard to beleive but i tried several times to move on but i'm just not attracted to other girls here...the only way i think i can move on is if i get rejected, like most of you guys said, she might be just playing or only think of me as a friend. i can never forget that feeling from last year, maybe thats why i cant move on. i didn't realize till now that this is the first time i'm in love with someone, I'm actuali a type of person who doesn't like to say "i love someone" for some reason, usualy i say "i like someone".

i cant seem to get along with girls here prob becasue they think i'm a kind of looser since i love watching anime, movies and playing games. girls here like those hardcore asian types who love to show off with thier cool hair style or whatever.

anyway just wanted to tell you guys why i'm in love with aya. most of you guys think its prob the most stupidist thing to fall for someone on the net who you never met before. >>164 is really right, i know nothing about love since this is really the first time. like i said in another post, i am pretty anti social even on msn nower days. to be honest this is the closest relation i have with a girl, never talk to a girl on a mic for 6 hours... never sent a gift to a girl before either and aya is the first girl i sent too.. maybe i live in the dreamworld too much, too much of a dreamer. like most people say "reality kills ya!"

>>173
lol Steyr AUG, it's just an inside joke here on /love/. Sorry to break the trolling of other Anonymous, but I don't wanna see you spend money because of a meme

>>173
They're just fucking with you about the gun. Don't take them seriously, and here in the US, everyone thinks you're Chinese, or if they have some sort of intelligence, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and sometimes Filipino.

I know it's hard to move on. I jump from crush to crush, and the only way I move on is if I meet another girl. Then the vicious cycle repeats. You will meet someone else sooner or later, but remember to keep an open heart, or you could pass up a great opportunity.

>>173
I love someone I've never met, I believe in it 5000%
I hope she really loves you man, otaku gotta stick together

Benson....

Steyr AUG is not a meme....I own one and it grants me all kinds of awesome. Don't listen to the heathens, you are probably one of the few decent people on this bullshit forum.

Seriously, get one.

>>168
Worst advice ever given on this board ever. Never, NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER date a girl with more problems with you. Seriously, if this chick is fucked up she is just going to drag you into it and it'll be a big fucking waste of your time. Doesn't matter how "nice she is", doesn't matter how much you love her, drop it like a hot fucking potato.

Also:
Keep in mind that a lot of girls (particularly the crazy ones) pretend to be/say they are bisexual to either get attention or cope with some kind of emotional problem. If a girl says she's bisexual, ESPECIALLY if she's upfront about it (i.e., mentions it out of the blue as a means of gaining attention), get the fuck away from her, as far as romantic relationships go. Also, this has about a ninety-nine percent correlation rate: all bisexual girls, real or pretend, are batshit insane. This is a FACT.

tl;dr: Never date a girl with more problems than you.

DON'T DO IT.

THIS POST EMPHASIZES THE LAST POST.

DON'T DO IT.

Seriously just STAY AWAY.

>>178
>>179
>>180
>>181
Same person.

>>178
As a bisexual girl, I resent your statement about bisexual girls being batshit insane. :-p
Though it is indeed true that if someone's using his/her sexuality (whatever it may be, hetero-, homo-, bi-, pan-, etc) as a way to attention whore, one needs to avoid getting into a relationship with the person.

>>171
>>172

Ok, huge chunk was an exaggeration, but I happen to know a lot of Japanese people. And yes, I can tell the difference between asians. There are enough Japanese in Australia. Especially where I live. I suppose the fact that most store signs near me are in both English and Japanese (And yes I can tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese, that isn't it) means that there are no Japanese people? But what exactly are you arguing, that it is therefore acceptable to call them Japs? There are plenty of Japanese people in Australia, there are more Chinese and other asian people, but there are still a lot of Japanese immigrants.

>>183 i think its just some australian slang to call japanese "Japs", i live in melbourne and havn't even seen one japanese person here, i know sydney as a few.

ahh looks like my first ever experience is with a long distance and i heard they dont long last.

>>178 you know i met a girl whos a family friend almost dragged me along with her problems. every single problem even a small one she would just come straight to me. i reckon what you say is true...not to be tite or anything but it was pretty annoying cos my phone kept beeping every 5 seconds and my inbox was full cos of this girl.. so scary

lol i'm not gonna buy a rifle, dont even have a gun license and to be honest i stil dont see how a rifle can get you anywhere. funny thing! lol

anway i dont know what to do, maybe just wait as usual for something to happen. prob wont get into relationships intill i graduate cos getting a pretty busy year next year so i should be working hard lol, but thanks for the great advice everyone! wish you all the best!

>>178
Everyone of our generation is fucked up. Everyone has some sort of issue with something. I wouldn't write her off right away because of that, but I would proceed with caution.

>>184
Slang, so I suppose they also refer to all their other minorities by derogatory slurs, hmm?

She's not, fucked up surroundings would give almost anyone low self esteem. She used to be, but isn't anymore.
BTW, she's not bi, I just know a few. ONE of them...yeah...compulsive liar, upfront, etc

Benson. Aya is out of your reach, but there are other girls like her who are more accessible to you, it wouldn't be fair to yourself to emotionally attach yourself to something you cannot get. Be friends, but I think you should keep your romantical life open to realistic oppertunities. You seem like a good person, and I think a relationship with a decent girl would do you well, so it's definately something you should work for.

Also, looking where you haven't looked before might be a good idea, for while finding someone who is a lot like yourself with interests and everything might seem like fun and good idea to begin with, having someone who can complement yourself and bring new strenghts into your life is actually better. The most important thing is that you love eachother and can hold passion for eachother, similar interests is only a must for this for people who put their minds under matter. If you don't do that you can appriciate people much more, and will be less inclined to tire of them.

In either case I wish you good luck with your lovelife and life at large.

Benson I hate to ay it but it sounds like Aya is very casual about you and is in no way serious about you at all. I really wish I could be one of the Densha style cheerleaders but in this case it’s just not in the cards.

I think your best/safest bet at this point is confession and see where that leads. In your next conversation on Skype or MSN just tell her you have something to say to her and say it. If she has mutual feelings she will let you know. If she has a Boyfriend she will tell you. If you have been Friend zoned then she will tell you that too. After that you can move on with your life one way or the other.

Benson I hate to ay it but it sounds like Aya is very casual about you and is in no way serious about you at all. I really wish I could be one of the Densha style cheerleaders but in this case it’s just not in the cards.

I think your best/safest bet at this point is confession and see where that leads. In your next conversation on Skype or MSN just tell her you have something to say to her and say it. If she has mutual feelings she will let you know. If she has a Boyfriend she will tell you. If you have been Friend zoned then she will tell you that too. After that you can move on with your life one way or the other.

>>183
Okay, I think there was a misinterpretation on both parts. The 'offensive' part of saying "the jap girl" is not so much the "jap" bit, but the fact that she was labelled. Like, use her name for respect? I absolutely have no qualms about using jap, cos it's not a racial slur in any way (if you think otherwise, please give some reason). Which is probably why I interpreted >>167's "jap" comment as japs aren't welcome in australia. As in, mixed relationships are not accepted or something. Thus you would understand my wtf attitude. For the record though, I don't know whereabouts you live, but overall the proportion of japanese people in australia is very small.

Anyhow, point is; if you really like someone, you would use their name for goodness sake.

>>189 i think your suggestion is best, if i do confess next time we talk i would 100% know if shes being serious or just playing around. i shutted my self from my social life for a while latley, only cos of work. its true thats shes out of my reach, i mean we live so far away so there really is not a slight chance. but what if, next time i do confess and it turns out that she liked me as well, what do i do next?? i mean will she be my first gf or are we still just friends??

its weird to say this but, its kinda lonley sometimes... when theres no one to talk to. even in my family, my parents travel often so not at home much and my older brother goes out frequently and we dont really talk much. my daily life is either on the computer, playing games, watching anime or movies and school work. i mean most girls who know me prob think i'm this big looser, i tried to change once but it just didn't work out cos i dont feel like my self, its like i'm hiding my real personality. to be honest i use to be on msn 24/7 talking to people but now i hardly go online or talk to people.

i could already tell that me and Aya prob wont really work since she keeps disappearing...i really wish we lived in the same area, if we did that might have worked.
>>187 she did bring new stregth into my life, if i didn't meet her last year i would have stopped filming, prob gave up since these group of people were picking on me. she actuali gave me courage to stand up agaisnt those people and to keep filming, like i said i never met anyone like her, and like i said in my previous post, i was really happy when i talked to her and last year all i saw was just darkness. you know its funny, i said that i didn't want a gf and here i am hoping to get one. i actuali been rejected 6 times already......thats why i'm stil single and in this thread lol. anyway i think Aya is going back to japan near the end of this month, possible that i could talk to her and finaly confess, see what her answer is.... if yes, i would be extremly happy and see if we could work something out. if no, i would move on knowing that i got rejected again and having the first time to confess on the phone (i use to do it on msn cos too nervous to say it, i guess thats why i got rejected lol). you guys think thats a better idea??

>>191
If you feel you really must, don't "confess," just tell her. You'll scare her away for sure with a confession, but if you're cool about it, I guess there's nothing wrong with it. However, I feel she's not serious about this and would've seen that red flag right away.

>she did bring new stregth into my life, if i didn't meet her last year i would have stopped filming, prob gave up since these group of people were picking on me. she actuali gave me courage to stand up agaisnt those people and to keep filming

Then her job is done. There are three kinds of people you'll meet in your life: those that are there for a lifetime, those that are there for a part of it, and those that are there only for a moment. The things we learn about ourselves through them lasts forever though.

>>190
The term Jap was used as a derogatory term for the Japanese during World War II. It's like calling a Chinese chink or a Korean gook. I doubt you are referring to Jewish American Princess since you're Australian and that's an American term.

>Jewish American Princess

I have never heard that before.

Benson, go ahead and confess, I doubt it would make a difference. You just gotta get out and enjoy life. Join a club, just go out and meet people.

Hey Benson, your local fellow man from Australia. I have nothing to add to this thread that had not been said already.

But on a curious note, how old are you and which suburb do you live in Melbourne?

Today is Friday, and I find myself sitting on my ass in front of my computer as usual and thinking of what to do. It's nothing special today but I'm responding to this thread anyway, usually I'm just a lurker and can't think anything to reply to most threads in this bbs.

Do you have friends and do you go out?

I didn't meant to sage this thread. That is a typo.

>>191

True, I was being all practical and shit but nevermind that, go get shot down, or conquer her heart! Love is worth a risk, blood, sweat and tears.

I'm just realizing that if something is to come out of this, it will take a lot of work. But what worthwhile doesn't ey?

>>192
Okay, you might be right. But it's still really absurd to think that "jap" would be an offensive term. I mean, at least with "chink" and "gook", there are negative connotations. Compared to them, "jap" is a really plausible shorthand. I dunno, perhaps it was offensive like 50yrs ago or so, but in today's society it's rather accepted and definitely isn't used in a derogatory sense. Much like how we use "phillo", "viet", "malay", "indo" and even "aussie".

>>194 um.. i dont go out much, only go out to watch a movie or something occasionaly with a friend. i go out more on holidays with 4-5 friends and we go to the movies or around the city.

lol my age, i'm 16 turning 17 in a month. hmm i live around doncaster, lol how old did you think i was??

Guess that I'm correct you are around that age. :)

Nah just curious.

Doncaster is not far lol. There are lot of Chinese living there, it is well off place, people got money there :)

But I prefer Box Hill, thats where I wonder around sometimes, in the arcades, but I don't live there though.

lol box hill is like hardcore asian areas, my school is near box hill, its like a 15 min tram to get there.

anyway i've been thinking for a while, theres this other girl i'm intrested which is a family friend of mine. we talk alot on msn but shes in taiwan. she sent me this package 3 weeks ago with these stickers thats got my name on it and stuff. i just bought her a bracelet with her name as a thank you gift which i'm sending it tomorow. we get along well and she helped me with some situation and i help her alot on her english lol, prehaps i should get over aya and focus on her?? i mean at least i get to see her once a year cos i go back during the holidays and we talk alot, unlike aya who just randomly disappear. so what you guys think?? oh btw her name is KIM (its not reallly her english name but apparently thats what her english teacher calls her lol)

btw forgot to mention

200GET

Just wondering, why do you keep trying to get girls from overseas?

Why not here?

well i have actualli, i got rejected 6 times here lol. hhmm i kinda lost intrest to girls here due to that and girls here aint intrested into people like me. i tried a few times to get along with girls here but just doesn;t work for some reason. anyway i'll be seeing KIM at the end of this year cos i'm going back to taiwan.

6 times?!?! holy fuck, 6 girls out of an australian population of 20 million said no.

hmm these people i use to hang around thought i was trying to act hardcore by asking every girl out, i use to play badminton with them. i was only asking out as a friend but i didn't understand that people here thought you were trying to hit on them when you ask them out cos in taiwan i think its normal if you ask them out as a friend, different things i guess. for some odd reason, everytime i like someone i seem to get further away from them like naturely. i guess i'm use to being by my self, my friend says i'm very dependant lol.

anyway i really decided to give up on aya, even if she replies me i'll just stay good friends with her. what do you guys think??

HARDCORE BADMINTON!!!!
no wait...

do it!

>>205

>>anyway i really decided to give up on aya, even if she replies me i'll just stay good friends with her. what do you guys think??

I think you're on to something there. Sitting there pining for this girl forever without relief will only eat you up inside.

Yes. give up on this. I've followed the story while it ran, and this is the only sensible thing left. The reasons to believe love might ensue from this were pretty shallow anyway.

Frigid onanoko can only support this decision. Friends is a boon already.

Just hope that it's not one of those "moving on" things that you keep on doing but coming back to it after she says something nice.....

hahaha i did realize that so i said i'll just stay good friends with her. me and some friends decided to ask these girls out next week, one of them is a family friend of mine so shouldn't be hard to ask, maybe this is starting fresh! ah i'm stil talking to kim latley lol

it seems my luck with girls is really bad, apparently no girls could go next week so the arrangements got cancelled... well i dont really mind but loosing a little confidence in this type of situation more now. lol i'm pretty screwed for my formal next year, prob wont go since i got no one to take and cost alot as well...i'm stil not giving up, gonna try again next time!

Take a friend, that's what I did. IMO, formals are a bigger deal to the parents than the kids though. Don't go crazy over it.

i was going to take a friend, even told the girls to bring friends. but they just couldn't go so we cancelled it, o well.

got so drunk tonight at my brothers birthday party, first time LOL!!

hooray beer!

lol i had 4 bottles and got so high!~

anyway i'm intrested in this girl who lives in the same place!
well the funny thing is this girl who i talked to a bit 3 months ago, started talking to me on the weekend saying how she sees me at my bus stop everyday. she goes to the same school as my family friend and she sometimes jokes about trrying to get me to go for my family friend. so i said "are you trying to get me to go for her?" so she says "nahh got my own problems" so i being nice said that if she has any problems, feel free to ask me. she says "nah its private" but my computer lagged for a sec so i didn't reply when she suddenly said "ok, but dont tell anyone like...(this list of names) promise!?" so i said yea and she tells me about this guy who stalks her and gets too jealous easily. the guy sounds so weird, he cried infront of her and hugged her so tight while saying "I love you".

i also talk to this other girl, we just talked about anime all night lol!! and apparently she looks cute i heard xD i think this is a good fresh start to get over aya! btw i tried to call her last nite and this random girl picks up saying "moshi moshi?!" she couldn't speak english at all, so funny xD

>>216
dude. long distance call gone to waste. not funny.

>>216

lol, as long as you're having fun I guess.

lol i know its expensive, my house has this dial where it cost onl 7 cents a minute!

anyway i'm thinking of trying to get close to this girl i was talking to last nite. shes really into anime LOL!~ she also goes to the badminton place, i was thinking maybe i should go so i could meet her face to face. i'm gonna try another arrangement to ask the girls out, like i'll ask some friends to come with me and tell them to bring friends as well, what you guys think??

LDRs rarely work out, but if you absolutely must meet, then by all means do so. Besides, you have no idea if you'll even like each other when you meet.

why bring friends along? that will only make her think that you want to be friends. just ask the girl out for ice cream or something along those lines.

so u mean i should just ask her out like just me and her?!

just talk to the girl on the phone, god her voice sounds so cute!~ we're meeting next friday at the badminton place, yes that badminton place LOL!! i was pretty nervous when i was talking to her, she giggled alot when i went a little speechless....oh btw her name is LYSS. her voice is stuck in my head! bah so cute XD! btw last time i went to that badminton place, i was so nervous i didn't talk at all and made my self look like a complete idiot, so this time i'm gonna take some courage and talk to the girls there, i think i will be so nervous that i'll stop breathing ~~" so gonna embarras my self there, i cant play badminton anymore, cant even hit the damn shutle now... any advice??

yeah, hit the shuttle, not the cock.

ps. you sound like a cute guy....except ur 17 rite? dontcha have some important exams to do in like a month or so? i know i do..

>>223
A voice is a voice. Don't set yourself up for a huge fall, hope it works out.

hey ask her to teach you how to play. it would make a good date.

>>227

This sounds like a good idea.

Also don't worry about embarassing yourself, worry about not doing things in fear of embarassment. If you cut yourself down because you're scared, you will just seem boring and unattractive.

>>212

>> i'm pretty screwed for my formal next year, prob wont go since i got no one to take and cost alot as well

That's not a bad thing. Just stay home and play Pokemon or watch anime or something like I did. At the end of the night, you'll actually have something to show for yourself, unlike the people who went to that formal. Basically, they just wasted a ton of money and time to sit around talking without anything to show for their time. Lame.

Yeah, stay at home by yourself with only Pikachu as your friend. Go ahead and watch anime that you could see on any night of the year. Yes sir, nothing is more rewarding than avoiding people and hiding because you are too scared to ask a girl out to the formal or too afraid of just going stag with a bunch of friends and not enjoying yourself. Be lazy, don't get a job so you can pay for the expenses. Man, I regret going to my formal (prom). If I didn't plan on going, I wouldn't have asked this girl to go with me and she wouldn't be my current girlfriend. Yup, watchin anime that I could watch on any night would have been 20x better than spending all night with a cute girl and all of my friends. >>229 you are right, I have nothing to show, just a few pictures, memories and a girlfriend.

benson have hope and have a lot more patience, you will win my friend.

>>Go ahead and watch anime that you could see on any night of the year.

The exact same thing can be said about going to a formal/prom. You sit around doing nothing or talking with people. How is that different from sitting around with friends any other night of the year? Oh, wait... You have to <i>pay</i> for the privelege of attending. No fucking thanks.

>>230
lol fag

i give up

I went to the formal by myself. Only because I felt I had to. But I don't see anything wrong with staying home and watching anime. I barely remember the formal and I have no photos of it. I doubt it will be a memory that I will hold onto til the day I die. But I can remember every plot line of every anime I have ever watched. Now that is something I will hold onto til the day I die.

>>231
haha that is funny seeing as you never went to a formal -_-.
this isn't a matter of money. i know alot of stingy people who went to my formal. why? because memories are priceless. if you actually socialised you would know the difference between "sitting around with friends" and attending an event that would potentially be one of the most memorable time of your life. take it from the words of someone who actually went to their formal. live life with no regrets and don't do something that will be a cause for embarassment when you grow up and look back on life.

If a formal is one of the most memorable events in your life I wouldn't want to live that life. I weep for you

>>225 lol well not at the moment, exams are around November so i stil have time now xD

well yesterday i was talking to Lyss again on msn, and i cannot beleive how nice she is. well 2 months ago, i had to walk home for 1 hour and 30 mins in the rain cos the person who picks me up forgot about it, my parents were overseas and my older brother was stil at uni. around my area they dont have much walkpaths cos its near the bushy mountain area. so i told her about this and shes shocked, like really surprised and said "what if you got....pneumonia or something like that ><"""""""", *slightly paranoid" and then said "you wont do that again right?!" so i said no and she said "thats good! :)" then later on.. this convo happened

Lyss: just curious...you made up your nickname right? its not form a song right?
Benson: yeah i made it up
Lyss: I've been meaning to ask if you were ok.. coz "kurayami"(darkness) is kinda depressing...
Benson: oh that name is like from ages ago, just forgot to change it (btw the name said "the world of darkness has come back to me") i think the name was around..... april or something
Lyss:ohh! are you ok now? you are right?!
Benson: yeaa i'm great! xD its all good now, thanks anyway^^
Lyss: ttthatts good =]]!

oh btw her msn was on busy and it said she was doing hww....is this going somewhere?!!

also.. i was thinking... if i win or get to know lyss ver well i mite ask her to the formal next year.. btw >>234 its so bad to go to the formal by your self since you have to pay while you got no one else to take and people will laugh at you for not having a girl to take there, thats why a few people are thinking of not going next year. i dont see whats wrong watching anime on that night if you got no one to take there... but i reckon it will be a good memory if you could go. some poeple think other people who dont go to formal are loosers, i dont know why they think that...jsut cos we dont have to pay so much money to go into some place with a girl and talk.... well anyway it stil a long time till my formal so i got ALL the time to think about it xD

>>236
Eh? Why not? Lemme guess, you hated your life at highschool or something? It's not the formal itself. It's what it represents. The friends, atmosphere, final year, growing up, celebration.

Save the tears for yourself man.

>>236

A lot of people lose their virginity at their formals at least in America.

Yeah, it's considered a mating ritual here. It's prostitution on a grandiose scale.

>>some poeple think other people who dont go to formal are loosers, i dont know why they think that...jsut cos we dont have to pay so much money to go into some place with a girl and talk

Formals are a big deal because people make them a big deal. Nothing has meaning unless meaning is attached to it. Women love it because everyone has to get all dressed up. Guys like it cause a lot of them think they'll get laid afterwards (and many do, but the number is greatly exaggerrated). Parents love it because they get to pretend their kids are adults for one night. Formals are very much an evolved rite of passage out of adolescence into early adulthood from some ancient ceremony our ancestors held. Like other human behavior, anyone that doesn't follow the status quo is different and therefore must be labeled and persecuted.

My formal was nothing special, and I had a date, but then again, we both fell into the "social outcast" archetype. She was against formals, yet she had a dress, so she was pressured by some of her friends to go with me, not exactly how I'd like to get a date, but whatever. I would've went stag, but well...I didn't have any friends.

you can't fight tradition

Try saying that to women and blacks.

Blacks?! What do they do do with this?

uuugh let's just ignore >>242, ok?

Don't do it, benson. Going to a formal will destroy you. You'l be there surrounded by dozens of other people, in a noisy, busy environment. That's no good for building a relationship with a girl. Don't you think going somewhere with just the two of you would be better?

Meeting up and playing Pokemon together, or getting a private booth at McDonald's, or something like that where the two of you get to spend some quality time together. That trumps anything you could possibly get out of a get-together you have to pay to attend. Take my word for it.

Formals suck. I hated every single person in my class. Dipshits, all of them. Why the fuck would I want to talk to them? And why the fuck would I want to remember it? But I do love pokemon and anime. It doesn't sound stupid at all.

>>246

You hated everyone in your class? Dipshits, all of them? Ok look you don't come here giving advice, you're a fucking LUNATIC!

Benson

Going to a formal can also be a healthy experience for social growth even if it does retain shitty aspects, everything is what you make of it. The last thing you need to do is to take advice from a bunch of spiteful shutins if a normal, fulfilling life together with a woman is what you're aiming for.

I completely agree with >>238

>>245
if you are trolling, you are a genius.

>>247

Look, I'll admit that it sounds nice, but it sounds a bit TOO ideal, you know? Spending possibly hundreds of dollars on something, most people would want to feel like they didn't waste their money, so it's possible that people who have attended such things are biased towards it, or they have just fooled themselves into thinking that it was a good experience.

well wat i am thinking at the moment is if i am like close friends with lyss or able to win her, i might ask her to the formal. my bros is nagging me about it as well saying "why wouldn't u go to a formal?!" but come to think about it.. formal is like your last night to have fun with your school friends cos your about to graduate so i dont see whats to bad about going to the formal, but i kinda gree that it spends too much money with formal, u gotta buy a suit and also pay to go in. well anyway thanks to Lyss i'm completly over Aya, i saw her pic last night and she looks pretty cute! mite even be better in real life cos i couldn't really see the pic. apparently her school has this concert tonight, my school concert is next tuesday and its in a concert hall in the city, we have it every 2 years.

btw guys do u mind if i call my self 電影男?? people been calling me that latley at school since my movies have been uploaded onto youtube.

I don't mind of you call yourself 電影男, only faggots snap about shit like that.

>>249

So you litterally HAVE to spend "hundreds of dollars"?

I've never been to a formal but it seems like it could be a memorable experience. Sure, if you don't have good reasons, like a date or accompanying friends, or something else, then I suppose there really is no point but if you DO.

Just saying. It's also kind of biased preaching against formals just because you personally can't find reasons to spend that money.

>>250
How do you pronounce ????? ?

Go to the formal with Lyss. She so sounds like she digs you.
At least in 20 yrs time you'll have something to show for.
Pikachu will not be cool forever. Sad, but true.

I could see if you have a money dilemma if you were a girl. But seeing as you're a guy the tops you'll spend is $150. That's ticket, limo, tux hire and a corsage for your cute date.

lol its pronounced "Eiga Otoko" i think

hmm $150 isn't that bad i guess! btw wats it with pokemon?!! i dont even watch pokemon anymore LOL although people at school calls me a pokemon xD god i cant wait to see her next week! hope it goes well! btw any advice when i talk to lyss?

mann i think i impress lyss! we were talking about japanese and shes like "wow, you know quiet alot even though you dont learn it! xD" and i told her i ran for 35 mins on the trendmill today and she was shocked to hear it!~ omg i think this is going well ^^

>>251
A wapanese is fine too.

>>252

>>At least in 20 yrs time you'll have something to show for. Pikachu will not be cool forever. Sad, but true.

Right. Pokemon's just been a worldwide phenomenon for 10 years now with no sign of slowing down. If he goes to the formal, what, exactly, will he have to show for it in 20 years? A ticket stub? With your Pikachu, you even have the option of evolving it along the way, adding a new realm of enjoyment and fun to your life. I don't see that kind of possibility when it comes to some school get-togeter.

If you have to go out with this girl, do as I said and get together on a one-on-one basis. It's like when you're trying to catch Safari Zone pokemon-- you can't just go in too strongly against them or they'll run away. You have to toss out some bait and slowly win them over. Bringing her to some noisy, crowded event that you had to pay to attend is no way to catch her heart in the pokeball of love.

>>If he goes to the formal, what, exactly, will he have to show for it in 20 years? A ticket stub?

I've got a videotape to show for it. They hired a videographer for our prom, and then of course there's the obligatory prom picture. I didn't even get to arrive in a freakin' limo. >.< Last time I'll be seen in a tux till someone's wedding (not mine, not marrying) or till I'm nominated for an award, ***last time*** I'll ever be seen in a bow tie. Bow ties look stupid.

>>254
Formals are all made out to be a big deal, but don't treat it like that. That's what they want you to think. Keep your cool, and you'll be fine. People make too much of a fuss over it. Don't fall for that crap. I do agree that they're ridiculously expensive though. However, usually the parents are so thrilled about it that they'll pay for most expenses if they can afford it. My prom was nothing special, but if you don't go, you'll never know. Look, there are two main ways to look at this. Whatever you choose, just have no regrets. That's the important thing.

I'm glad you've moved on, just don't set yourself up for disappointment by misinterpreting signals, and don't get caught in a vicious cycle like me. Good luck with the girl. She sounds great, so far.

I wish I could move on. u_u

>>255

How can you be so cool on the internet?

>>256
Using Pokemon as a metaphor for love is a sure fire way to lose your credibility.

>>259

So instead of actually addressing what I said directly, you're choosing to discredit it on some flimsy pretext? It doesn't matter how I stated it-- my points still remain valid.

>>260

No a formal would be more like the icing on the cake, you see. As with Benson and this Lyss, they are already getting to know eachother, taking her as date to a formal would be like a subtle invitation to a higher level, and she would most definately get that. Understand?

I know you do.

Reversedly asking someone to a formal could serve as a base on which to start to get to know a girl you like, if you haven't already prior to the event. And for that purpose it's also good. It's a nice, special event for such a gesture.

Chicks in particular dig this shit, you should not underestimate that.

maybe i'll ask lyss out on the holidays since she lives right near my school... how long do you think it needs to take to ask her out?? i gotta give her a good impression next week when i see her!

First off, benson, do you know which pokemon is her favorite? I only ask because I think it will help me to understand what kind of person she is. Knowing that will tell us more about her than anything else you could say.

If she likes Gardevoir, then she's a keeper, man.

>>261

I understand how you could think so. It does seem like the perfect place for a couple, but if you look at it in the right way, then you'd see that it's really the worst thing you could do. For starters, you're surrounded by dozens of other people, and you're in a loud, busy environment. Hardly the most intimate of settings for a date with your sweetheart.

This is why I suggested finding something to do with just the two of them. Playing Pokemon over a link cable, or maybe just going out to get a late night bite to eat at Wendy's or McDonald's (but not Burger King or KFC, whatever you do). Finding subtle ways of being romantic like this is what girls really like.

lol i dont know if she likes pokemon XD hmm if i keep talking to her everyday will she get annoyed?? well at the moment doesn't seem like it but i'm kinda running out of thigns to talk about, but then again shes doing hw so thats why we dont have much to talk about. also would it be weird if i called her on the phone? i'm afraid i might go speechless which isn't good ~~" last time i called her she just giggled alot.

>>264

LOL! Ok, keep posting you clown.

>>265

Benson you must understand that the poster of >>264 is not being serious. It's like the Steyr AUG guy.

I think it's pretty clear that Lyss likes you though. And don't worry about talking so much, the important thing is that it's clear that you want to spend time with her, so it doesn't have to be interesting. If she likes you, she will appriciate that you're spending time with her more than what you're actually doing. I assure you, do not worry. If you know that, then it should be easier to hang out and communicate too.

>>260
That's the thing. I don't think you actually have a point.

well today when i was talking to lyss, she only replied in one words then said "sorry for my infrequent answers~ i'm tring to stop procrastinating and finishing my essay" so i said if she needs any help but shes like nahh its fine. so i said "if you need any help feel free to ask! lol i better no disturb you" so shes like "wahh sorrry!" so i said "haha its fine, do you essay, Ganbatte!!("you can do it" in japanaese)" and shes like "haiiii (yess) I'll do my best!"

hmm i dont know if she likes me but its a bit early to say that now....but maybe shes just intrested in me... no idea!~~"
oh yea if i do talk to her on the phone, i cant be speechless right? cos it'll just make her bored, hmm i rarely called girls before, only did it 2 times....

>>268

Well if you're on the phone you obviously need to talk.

>>268
She sounds interested to me.

>>266
>>267

I think I've gotten my points across quite clearly, actually, but I'll lay them out once more. Basically, they are the following:

1. Getting together on a one-on-one basis will trump a get-together in some noisy, crowded environment any day.
2. Finding subtle ways of being romantic is what girls really like, which is why something as simple as getting a private booth at Wendy's will net you points in her book.

>>271
i like that you kept it serious until the awesome punchline at the end. but don't you think that maybe wendy's is a little highbrow? he really needs to take the chick to denny's or waffle house if he wants to impress her.

well i was thinking since i finish school in a week, i'll ask her out and say that you can bring friends and i'll bring friends as well.... doesn't it usually start like that?! plus i may get rejected if i just ask her out like that. but it wont affect me that much if we have friends around does it?!!

>>doesn't it usually start like that?!

No. Getting together in a group is hardly intimate, and it greatly diminishes the amount of fun that you can have with her on a one-on-one basis, which is the number one thing I've been trying to get across here. Unless you're planning a Pokemon tournament and you want to show off to this girl by beating the crap out of everyone else, I'd advise against it. That is one of the few times I would ever support getting together in a group.

i was talking to lyss this lunch time and some how my name made me look emo (stupid translator, its in japanese) and she asked me "your not emo are you?" so said "nah i dont cut my self lol", heres wat happened on the convo...

Lyss: some of my friends use to be, i think it was the mood swing
Benson:oooo... well i use to be a bit i think lol
Lyss:emo?
Benson: well not emo...but dark
Lyss:i was emo at one stage too
Benson:lol
Lyss: something depressing happened? *pats as long as your not emo now =D
Benson:lol thanks!~ but it was a long long time ago anyway XD
Lyss: lalalalala, lets all watch anime and be happppyy!
Benson: hahah YeAH!! lol i made someone cry once when i told them about my dark past.
Lyss:...ouch, it must've been pretty bad.
Benson: yeah it was, went for about 2 years
Lyss:..what happened? if you dont mind ><

i was gonna tell her but she had to go to reheseral for her school concert. about late afternoon, she started talking to me!~ well i gotta wait for her cos shes gone to eat dinner. looks like its going well

>>274
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I got the distinct impression we were talking about whether our Benson friend here should go to his ball. One of the reasons being that he could create an opportunity to catch up with Lyss. Girls like a little dress and impress once in a while. Of course a one on one date would be a better scenario, however there are many more other days to do that rather than on his formal night.

@Benson: Lyss sounds like a real ditz but she complements you nicely.

>>276 she sounds ditz?!! how?!

anyway i told lyss about my past and she gave me alot of this *pat icon and hug icons. shes really nice, she told me not to be like again. i think i gained her trust cos she told me that she sometimes argues with her mum and that if she went through wat i went through she would have died ~~" well i'm gonna talk to her more and hopefully it goes well this friday!

>>277
Enjoy your new female friend.

>>277
You took a big risk sharing that information so early. You could be on your way to the Friend Zone now.

>>279
Who are you kidding? He's already there.

benson just ask her out 1 on 1, ask her out with friends may make her believe you want her as friend too, and that is the last thing you need.

just ask her to hang out, please no mcdonalds. all of the mcdonald's ive been to are shitholes. if you are going to ask her out to eat just nice, small, UNIQUE restaurant.

>>279

If you can't make your way to the couple zone from the friend zone she isn't worth shit anyway.

If you actually believe in the girl and yourself and are hoping to build something lasting, initial honesty won't hurt anything, but if you think or actually know you need to work her with tricks she's just another hoe and you're just another player.

I'm a guy who also has a penpal! 7 to be exact! But there's only one who would take the time to talk to me everyday! She's from China and will soon to move to Australi and someday I have hopes of seeing her. So I say GO FOR IT!

you sound friendzoned, dude. the one thing you can really trust a board like this on is whether or not you are friendzoned because that shit is a daily occurrence for most of us.

crapp... seems like i did the wrong move.... ok say i ask her out 1-1 like to hang out, and she rejects it so what do i do next?? it would make it obviouse that i prob like her if i ask her out. well i didn't want to tell her those stuff this early... she kept on asking me, was i suppose to say "sozz its private" ??

well i was talking to my friend about the "going out" bit... he said ask her what shes doing for the holidays and if she says she doing nothing, ask her if she wants to go for a movie or just hang out. hmm mayb i could do that..... btw any suggestion for the coming friday?? cos i'm gonna see her at badminton with 4 other girls ~~"

>>285

Don't listen to them this friendzone talk is bullshit. I friendzone girls all the time, i.e. I tell them everything and treat them like the closest of my friends. Doesn't stop them from eventually climbing all over my dick. In fact, pretty much every last girl I've befriended have somehow ended up wanting a piece of me, I don't even push it.

Just be yourself completely and don't try to be something you're not to appeal to her. Thats why these guys get stuffed in the aquintance but no further-pocket, they have these ideas about what they think girls want them to be and act like that instead of being frank. That deprives them of every interesting aspect they might have had.

>>286 well luckily i'm always my self cos i know girls dont like guys acting some one else... i really want to call her but.. something just makes me stop~~"

ok guys... i sms lyss tonite about her DVD i am giving her and i accidently called her so she told me shes at reheasal, i was like "omgg sorry! *hits head i had no idea, ganbatte (good luck, you can do it in japanese) in reheasal!" and shes like " aaaaawwwwwwww ^O^ TY!!!! TYTYTYTYTYTYTY!!!!"

then later on like 10 mins ago, i'm talking to lyss right now actuali... well i apologized for calling her at reheasal... this is wat happened

Benson: so sorry about calling u!
Lyss: its ok! i had my phone on silence anyway ^^
Benson: crap... suddenly started coughing
Lyss: OOMMGGG, DONT DIE!!! NNNNNOOOOOO!!!!!
Benson: hahahah I'm not dying! xD
Lyss: Thank GOD!!!
Benson: ohh btww i got ur dvd ready, also made a cover for u!
Lyss: aaaaaawwwwww, TY!! dont need to bother with the cover....
Benson: Dww i done it alrdy ^^

well anyway.. i asked her what shes doing on the holidays and shes like "i got work exp... WHHYY!!!~~" but i just said "nothing just wondeirng". then i ask her where shes going for work exp and she said shes going to the vet, then she tells me her problem with socializing with people and is so similar to me. so i'm like "dww it will be fine! just try and make conversation when your there and ask alot of questions" so shes like "ahh TY!!~". well i'm stil talking to her!~ she seems to enjoy talking to me now! i think i'm over the friend zone!~

If she is socially inept, then the rules of the friend zone might not apply, of course you can still be had by another guy swooping in from the shadows and blowing your opportunity, so yeah, start spending some time with her.

>>Just be yourself completely and don't try to be something you're not to appeal to her. Thats why these guys get stuffed in the aquintance but no further-pocket, they have these ideas about what they think girls want them to be and act like that instead of being frank. That deprives them of every interesting aspect they might have had.

Honesty has made nearly all women run the fuck away from me in Looney Tunes fashion.

>>289 well depends wat the girl was like.... cos i met a few whos done that to me as well, they thought i was some kind of looser or something ~~" well i am confirmed that Lyss will go to badminton!! my god i cant wait alrdy!

You should just give up. This one is lost. Better luck next time!

>>Honesty has made nearly all women run the fuck away from me in Looney Tunes fashion.

Well look I'm not saying that any shithead will be appealing with the honesty approach. Nor am I saying that all women are interested in a sincere relationship. If they are not, they well be like "fuck this guy means business better stay clear".

I don't know how your situation is, either case you still have to be a good guy going for a good woman for my advice to be of value.

Benson, you still haven't told us what her favorite pokemon is. Are you intentionally witholding that information because you think it will make her look bad? Does she like Sunflora?

I hope she likes Gardevoir.

>>293

He actually said she doesn't like Pokemon. Chances are then, she also does not have a favourite.

>>277
Not to sound bitchy or anything, but this girl is a blatant ditz. I haven't even met her but I can already imagine what she must be like from the really good notes you make from your phone calls =P. Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against it, alot of asian girls are typically like that and guys dig it apparently. The good thing here is that you are so much like her. Be careful that you're not getting played though (if getting refused on a one on one date says anything to you).

>>Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against it, alot of asian girls are typically like that and guys dig it apparently.

This trait is not exclusive to Asians.

>>295

>>Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against it

Sure sounds like it

>>296
I'm not saying it is. It's just a reference because we're talking about an asian girl here. However, I'm asian myself, and I can say that if you've hung around enough asian girls you will find that a scary number of them are beyond a normal level of ditziness.

>>297

>>Some of my friends will talk in the same sickly sweet tone. I have nothing against them

>>291 hmm i dont see how i am lost....

well today i had this concert so we didn't have school for the whole day, just hanged around the city. well i sms her around noon saying "hey how was the swimming competition?! lol i got a concert tonite!" and she replied "it was ok! XD so THATS why you weren't on msn! have fun lol!"

i was talkinmg to my friend who knows her, he says she the cute type (looks not personality) oh and apparently shes shy as well when it comes to talking to new people, we seem to have the same personality and intrestso its all good to me. well depends how i show my self this friday....

what are you going to do friday?

>>299 hmm i dont see how i am lost....
You will. Just wait..

ITT we pretend to know what we're talking about

>>294

No, he didn't say that she dislikes Pokemon. He said that he doesn't know whether or not she likes it, which means he hasn't asked her yet.

>>301 hmm okk... i dont give up easily as you can tell from this thread...

well i'm going to the badminton place on friday night and shes gonna be there. i heard shes really good at badminton and i cant play. well so far i made this dvd for her with a cover on it which i hope she likes....any suggestions for friday?? i really need it!! i'm getting all hypo about it just by thinking about it...

damn tired.... the concert went so late i had very little sleep... damn school making us go in the morning

I would love to see the look on this girl's face when she finds this thread.

>>304

That's good. I assume you're going to be playing with her one-on-one, right? It's not a group thing, is it? In any case, that DVD may turn out to be a nice move, so good job. If you get a chance to go out for something to eat after you play, remember what I told you earlier: McDonald's, Wendy's, and Taco Bell are good; Burger King and KFC are not.

Also, I think you need to stop running away from the important issue of finding out which pokemon is her favorite. This is a crucial piece of information, and it will allow us to better evaluate her character. Good luck.

>>306
Dude! McDonalds? Wendy's? KFC?!! WTF are you talking about man! Bring her to a place not to fancy and NOT a fast food joint. After that take her out on a walk by the park or ocean and talk! That would be really thoughtful.

Dude McDonalds and Wendy's are perfectly acceptable. Nothing show you care about a girl than buying her something off the dollar/value menu.

>>307

I said not KFC. Anyway, the reason why getting a private booth at these places is recommended is because it's a small gesture of romance that you're showing to the girl. Small gestures net you way more points in her book than large, overly flashy ones. This is important. Capitalizing on this point is the way to win a girl's heart.

Taking her out to Wendy's, opening her ketchup packet for her, and dumping the tray into the garbage when you're finished alone will leave a big impression on your date. It's understandable if you think this sort of thing is contrary to reason, but that's females for you. Just trust me on this.

something really good/bad just happened, apparently lyss reckons i like her now because my family friend told everyone at her school about it (they go to the same school). firstly i didn't tell her i like lyss, she just figured it out her self i think.... welll the good thing is lyss is still talking to me as usual. apparently she found out on tuesday, the day of my concert... well nothing bad is going on but i thought that she might be freaked or something and stop talking to me, seems not that way. well i will see her tomorow! i really hope i can ask her out like you guys suggested!~ btw i think Wendy's would be nice, since its ice cream lol

>>309
Okay, despite your Pokemon fetish it seems like you might know a little bit about girls after all.

Don't encourage the idiots.

ok guys.... I'm going to the badminton place now... wish me luck~!

>>313
Show those girls some REAL badminton, boy.

Don't bang her with your shuttle COCK HahAHAHAHAHA....

I'm so lonely...

I wonder if he blew it or not.

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well.... i must say.... i think i blew it up last nite but then again not really....man...lyss is soo cuttee!~~ well this is what happened

i told 4 friends to come with me on that night cos i thought mayb i wont be so shy if i have some friends around to suppot. well we all got thier but apparently only members are allowed to play and my friends aint any members, that counter guy is such a bastard, we asked if we can just watch but his like "no u must be a member, its insurance blah blah blah" so my family friend (the girl who told lyss i like her) dragged lyss to meet me and i gave her the dvd. she looked really happy with it and kept on saying thank u. my friends kept on telling me to go in and play but i felt bad leaving them behind thier watching since i was the one who dragged them there. so i decided to go with my friends and we end up at his house.

yeahh i know i blew it up but lyss was pretty happy about the DVD plus i printed a cover on it.

well i was talking to her today and aplogized about last nite leaving with out a word and explained wat happened. she said it was fine (btw she gave me a anime dvd as well last nite and didn't give me the 2nd season soo...) then she said she said "btw how can i give u the rest of the dvd?" so i was like "hmm not sure", she said she was gonna give it to one of my friends at badminton but then i said "hm i'll be around the school area some time this week, mayb we can just meet somewhere and u can give it to me there" and she said "oh, ok! but tell me when not sure when i will be at home xD" soo i'm gonna meet her this week just the two of us.... my god!~ and i thought i stuffed it up last nite (which i did). well she said she had to go walk the dog so she said she will talk to me later cos going for a walk with her friend (dunnno if its a dog cos she suddenly said her grandmother left her dog at her house~~") well..... any suggestions for that meeting?!!!

its a date now i think..... cos we arranged to meet at the train station.... btw i accidently asked if she eva had a bf and apparently she hasn't.... she asked me why and i said just wondering, she went a little "....." but we're stil talking. i cannot stuff up on wednsday!

>>319

lol she gave you only the first season, eh? Might be something behind that.

>>320 r u seriouse?! theres this intresting convo that happaned today.... we were talking about my family friend that goes to her school and i was saying how she use to spread rumours about me liking this other girl, lyss was like "omg... wow, GO BENSON!" and i said "nonooo i didn't, she made it up" and she was like ".......,you can tell me if you did y'know ;("
so i said "yeahh i know!" and she said "telll meee =D" and apparently she knows about aya.... she said she read it on my forums (not 4ch obviously) and i kinda noticed she didn't talk as much as usual....but she stil gives me the smiley and patting icon lol! i was thinking of taking her to a nice cafe around the station, wat do u think??

WOW! I just read the whole thread and I've seen a lot of improvement from you! You posted this thread cause you wanted to get to know Aya more and know it's cause you need help with Lyss! Man, I hope your life turns out great! Oh and do you still talk to Aya? Cause the reason she disappears is because of all the teast and studying they do! I have penpals in China, Korea, and Japan and they're doing it to! So how old Aya anyway? It would be nice to get to know another japanese person.

>>321
>>r u seriouse?!

Well heck I don't know, maybe it is.. At any rate it did mean you had to meet so you could get the 2nd season from her.

>>321

>>she said she read it on my forums (not 4ch obviously)...

From a girl's perpective, finding out that a guy posts his love problems on the net is freaky. It gives the impression that you're ultra sensitive. Sure, alot of people do it, but know one really talks about it IRL.

Other than that you seem to be managing with Lyss really well.

KILL

well aya hasn't replied me for... 2 months now i think. i dont mind stil having contact with aya cos its good to stay good friends stil. Aya is 15 years old, turning 16 this year i think.

>>324 well the post i did on my forums wasn't like these ones on 4CH, its more like "i waited 4 months for one email reply! damn thats long" and all the people that post are my friends lol. i realized on the day i have to stop being so shy cos that will just ruin everything. i'm pretty surprised how similar we are.... never had a relationship, both really shy infront of people we dont know, love watching anime ect and shes a really nice person as well.i'm also surprised how well this is going cos usualy i just blew it up within 2 weeks lol! well hope it goes well this time

>>Other than that you seem to be managing with Lyss really well.

Perhaps, aside from the fact that he still hasn't inquired about her favorite pokemon. Seriously, is he that worried about it being a bad choice? Perhaps she likes Luvdisc?

>>327
Nah I'm thinking Jigglypuff.

>>327 lol i'm afaird if i ask her wat fav pokemon is, she mite think i am some pokemon maniac~~"

Hey! If your a maniac of some time such as Poke'mon or Yugioh! It's okay! If she can't accept the fact that you are who you are then she's probably not the your looking for.

>>330

Speaking of Yu-Gi-Oh, I like making wind decks. It's a fairly underrepresented and undersupported element when you compare it with things like Dark or Water, but it has some very excellent monsters.

>>331

Freak.

Anyway, I'm not suggesting that he talk to her about Yu-Gi-Oh cards (just yet), because that's fairly hardcore compared to Pokemon. Pokemon is somewhat more accepted, and ever people that don't like it much can have a favorite monster, and that can tell you a lot about the person's personality.

ahh i see, well i will try and ask her lol!~ prob a cute type pokemon i think

No, don't listen to him. You can ask her sometime if you really want to, but this might be too early on. Let your relationship cement first.

see if she like guns?

>>336 i doubt she likes guns LOL!
lyss doesn't seem to talk that much as usual now..and for some reason she sounds kinda shyish on msn~~" we were arranging the times to meet and something came up...

Lyss:waiit.... some how i need to organize with my friend for a walk. so i can meet u without my dad knowing..ok
Benson: oooo ok~
Lyss: Um... ok >< problem is that...i'll probably go out for lunch with dad, mums in china and brothers in uni so i'm not sure if i can make it on time..T_T
Benson: ahh actualli...tell me when you can get thier, cos i'll be thier this whole afternoon, so when your gonna go thier just give me a message or something.
Lyss:....you're just hanging around thier? for what?
Benson: need to buy a stupid gift for a friend so i'll be walking around that area.
Lyss:lol! ok!
Benson:yeah that should make it easier~~"
Lyss:coolies! =D ty!!~
Benson ^^
Lyss: ...when are you gonna be there untill??
Benson: i'll be thier the whole afternoon, cos i got a piano lesson at 5
Lyss: oohhh i see!

i'm a little speechless latley.... but it still looks good~~" btw apparently she use to like a friend of mine from school who is a type of person that is a attention seeker, has bad breathe and kinda... hard to explain, his like those type of person who you think that no girls will like him... so when i heard that i'm like "OMG r u serious?!" and she also just gave up someone she liked for 7 months a week ago.... well i really dont know if this is going good or not... depends on wednday

okkk i just had the best convo i had so far with lyss!!~well i asked her how much hw she has for the holidays and apparently she has alot.... so i said "if you ever need any help feel free to ask me cos thats alot of hw" and she said "TY!!!~~~" anway... ok about 2 days ago, i made up this name in japanese on my msn.. today when i talk to lyss she asked me about the name...

Lyss:....something pulling me to kurayami...to dark gloomy place...darkness?
Benson: huh?
Lyss: ur name
Benson: oh!~
Lyss:who is that? -_-
Bennson: uummmm.....
Lyss: is it you?
Benson: yeah~~"
Lyss:why did u type that in? what happaned?
Benson: well nothing really happaned..butt
Lyss:what happened?!?!?!?!?! telll meez ><
Benson: well i just the feeling i had before i was dark
Lyss: why??!! nnnooo!! *smack dont be emo!!
Benson:nonono
Lyss: its bad for you!
Benson: I'm not turning emo lol
Lyss: it SOUNDS emo!! geez
Benson: zomg really?!
Lyss: stop the darkness stuff, its really bad for you!
Benson; i have!
Lyss: really..then why you type that in?! and get it OFF your nickname!! omfg! put on something happy! DONT BE EMO!! ><
Benson: wowww
Lyss: its bad for you!! nnnnoooooo!! ><
Benson: lol i'm not turning emo, jus this feeling i had, just felt weird
Lyss: like... emo weird? get rid of the feeling! ><
Benson: i know why but...
Lyss: why? >< why are you turning emo?!
Benson: your gonna think i'm weird, zomg i'm not! this isn't even emo!
Lyss: lol it sounds like it, go on tell me!
Benson: omg you havn't even seen me turn dark
lyss: even NOW you sound emo
Benson: zomg really?!
Lyss: here have some light! (does this light bulb icon 3 times)
Benson: lol thanks!
Lyss: anyway tell me what happened
Benson: okk well its just i had this weird dream latley
Lyss: like??
Benson: my brother and my dad... were killed
Lyss: wahhh, no wonder your turning emo....
Benson: and it felt really real, in my dreams i even had this memory of them when they died... it just felt like my self in the past again
Lyss: *pats(its an icon) wahhh dont, thats bad!
Benson: well what i'm afraid is that... in year 4, i had a dream about my dog dying, in a week it was killed by a car...
Lyss: T_T my god.... thats kinda freaky
Benson: i know... so weird.... but i doubt its gonna happen cos... to be honest this isn't the first time... i had a dream of my dad dying in hospital but nothing happaned and plus it doesn't make sense cos my parents are over seas and my brother is living with me now.
Lyss: just....be wary...and dont be emo...
Benson: ddww i'll be fine by tomorrow
Lyss: hopefully...:(
Benson: Sorry if i scareed you
Lyss: i wasn't scared, I'm just worried about you ><
Benson: lol dont need to, i'll be fine~~"
Lyss: eat chocolate! it'll make u happy!!
Benson: serious i'm fine! dont worry about it!
Lyss: aaaawww *pat
Benson: lol thanks!
Lyss: *pat *pat i think you need it *pat *showering you with comfort ...and light (does all these sun and light bulb icons)
Benson:hahahaha , your a really nice person! seriously i'll be fine
Lyss: have more light! *light icon
Benson:lol getting a little bright here
lyss: nnoo! its GOOD!! HAVE MORE LIGHT! (then does this sun icon) actuali sun light is better....
Benson: lol thanks for the light!~

well anyway... she keeps sending me these light icons like a flashy light, sun, light bulb ect.... I'm meeting her tomorrow, getting all nervouse noww~~" okk heres what i planned..... if she has to go home i'll say "hey i'll walk you home!", if shes not doing anything i'll ask her if she can help my find a gift for my friends birthday which is the day after tomorow, if she agrees we'll walk around the area and prob take her to a nice cafe or something! what do you guys think?!!

funny how you guys throw the word "emo" around alot.
zomg! you're asian and u have black hair....EMO!
shallow conversations, but at least you're getting somewhere.

GO FORTH, TEENAGER!

You played that quite well

WHY IS YOUR NAME 電影男? PLEASE ANSWER ME IMMEDIATELY

The moral of this story is don't be emo!

>>342 lol i'm using 電影男 cos i'm addicted to movies and movie making, also alot of people been calling me that latley~~''

annyywayy yesterday i was suppose to meet lyss, i was having lunch with some friends when i got a message from her and it said....
"omg benson, i'm so sorry!! i dont think i can make it today cos dad is being really tite!! i'll send you the codex ok? i'm really sorry!!! T_T"
well i must say i was a little disappointed cos everytime when i go out with a girl, something will happen in a bad way. i was thinking mayb she made that up or something but apparently it was true, her dad is really tite cos i asked my friend about it after and they told me her dad is so tite that shes not suppose to be on msn at all... so i told her it was ok and said how do i give you the dvd? then she replied
"how do i give you the rest as well?>< work out something later on msn? sorry again!!"

well i got home at night and talked to her, again she kept on saying sorry and stuff. she seemed to be stressed from all the hw she had so i just told her that is she needs any help just tell me. also....for some reason she called me big brother in chinese like "yes gege(big brother in chinese)" when i said "gotta focus!!" hmm i hope she doesn't think me as a brother~~" well i'm hopinh to try and talk to her on the phone now, gonna call her sometime today if possible to arrange another time to meet.

BUT 電影男 HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MOVIES. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Wow! Benson. I've been through that many times!Trying to talk with a girl and then she just blows you off with an excuse. All the excuses I 've gotten were, "I'm helping my mom cook, I'm baking a cake, My mom needs me, My mom's calling me downstairs, I have to eat......." Everytime we talk there's always an excuse! The only time when she didn't have one was when she didn't know me on AIM cause I was known as Spider-Man to her for 3 hours! When I revealed who I was, she kept asking If I was joking about being TokyoJapan22! Well, since then I haven't spoken to her at all.

how old are you guys... seriously...

>>346
And you can't accuse them of lying either, cause then you look like an asshole and blow your chances completely.

>>345 電影男 means movie man and like i said alot of people call me that latley at school and stuff

>>346 i know what you mean, everytime i have a date with a girl or something, they will either blow me off on the day or something naturallly bad happens.... i guess its just my luck. but i dont think lyss blew me off cos he dad really is tight. cos if she did blew me off, why would she want to arrange another time to meet so i dont think she blew me off. well i didn't talk to lyss today cos she seemed really busy with hw~ i just realized my god brother in Taiwan is about to release his album by Sony, his name is evanyo! so surprised XD

>>349 電影男 means movie man
WHY MUST YOU LIE TO ME IN SUCH A BLATANT MANNER?

Yeah sorry to break it to you dude (ok not really it's kind of funny), but it doesn't mean movie man.　映画男 would be what you are looking for. How do you even pronounce 電影男? Den kage otoko?

>>351 ahh well it means movie man in chinese, soz for the misunderstanding but i think 電影男 is Eiga Otoko

映画男 is eiga otoko

>>350
i want to know the truth too

sorry for my misunderstanding!~ i just directly translated from chinese. but does eiga otoko mean movie man??

btw i didn't talk to lyss today, i had some friends over and she still seems to be busy working....

>>350 lied to you?!!

>>351

Did you ever think that maybe the Japanese and Chinese didn't use the same exact characters for this term?

and now we learn where hong kong anime subtitles come from

>>357 /love/ ?

lol i did the stupidest thing today, i had 2 friends over last nite and today we found these handcuffs, i thought i had the key so i pranked them and handcuffed my self when i found out it wasn't the key. we spent about 3 hours trying to find the real key and trying to get it off. i told lyss about it and she just laughed at me lol and now her msn name says "hahaha bensons kinky XD" well luckily i figured out how to break the handcuffs... anyway i wanna ask you guys something, as many of you know that lyss knows i like her cos my family friend told her, i was about to ask my family friend why she told lyss i like her but then i thought its better not saying it cos she might tell lyss that i knwo that she knows i like her..... this family friend is a little problem for me, shes been telling her friends how mean i am to her when i was just joking around...mayb too much that night... and not to mention i helped her alot before with hw and some problems... she use to have a crush on me which was really troublesome.. what should i do?

i wonder how long it will take him to confess

eh what does it mean when a girl says that she doesn't normaly starts convos with people on msn but has started 2 convos with you and says you should feel special about it.. btw this isn't lyss. i didn't talk much with lyss yesterday and she has work experience today, btw the girl who said the special thingy is called manda and i use to like her. i've talked to manda for a long time and we're like really good friends.

I'll be frank, Benson. Try to live your youth without worries. Because surely, you're living a golden age that won't come back, and be there good or bad memories, try to live them all and in your best disposition. To sum it up, >>360. All your good (girl)friends are in an unstable yet powerfully attractive age. It's all new for them as much as it is for you (relatively). Girls will much more likely be attracted to secure guys. (Let me be redundant, confidence, not assholeness.) Girls seem much less pressured into relationships because it's their specialty. They are taught to understand relationships at a young age, be more open, talkative, and experienced in dealing with people (women are by nature more communicative than men, because long ago, women would spend time communicating among themselves. Gossip is part of women's evolution. Men, on the other hand, are less verbal because evolution required us, hunters, to be absolutely silent during hunt. Physical contact and body motions are our way of communicating). So do not be uncomfortable for not knowing what some phrases or expressions mean. You were never taught that. Try to communicate to women in their language. Practice makes perfection.
Do create a healthy habit of practicing your moves beforehand. Learn how to approach and start interesting and romantic topics by training alone. Out loud. Maybe even record and listen to yourself. Practice makes perfection.

>>361
Lol..if she's anything like me then she doesn't mean anything by it. Alot of people do that, guys as well as girls. I don't tend to start conversations with people either, so I can tell you that you shouldn't read anything more into it, other than the fact she wanted to talk to you at that time. You don't expect people to take it seriously you know?

>>362 it is true, i think i worry to much even with small things around me. this manda girl seems to be intrested in me cos shes been talking alot latley....like telling me alot of stuff like how her mum was murming bad stuff about her becasue she got her ear pierce.

i think i have this problem that i think too much, maybe small stuff like the special thing makes me think that someone is intrested in me or something or mayb i am just too sensative... eh...for some reason i've got lyss and manda in my head now...well its cos... 45 mins ago, my house had this odd banging noise and my older brother thought there mite be someone in the house so we had like weapons in our hands and checked around the house, my brother made me and his gf stay in this small room and he went to check around. while i was sitting in the room i was thinking "if something really did happen..." when suddenly lyss and manda both poped in my head... i was also thinking "should i tell lyss i like her if something did happen...mayb my last words" (i know i shouldn't be thinking that at a time like that!) luckily there was nothing and we double checked everywhere to be sure. so when i got back to my room i was thinking "why was i thinking that?!" thats why i reckon that i think too much.

also... say if manda did like me... what do i do?! shes a really nice girl and pretty cute as well... i would feel really bad if i just rejected her like that..so confusing~~"

btw i sms lyss saying "hey how was work exp?" but i got no reply...

Wow! that's really a bummer. I happen to like a girl, but then I also have some other girls I think I like as well. Only that one of them makes me feel really nervous and jumpy inside. The others I only find as friend's or really cute girls. Problem is, I actually get to know them really well, I wonder if my impression of them wil change.

>>my brother made me and his gf stay in this small room

And you let this chance slip by. You could have added her to your ever-expanding harem.

Come on, man-- eyes on the prize.

>>366 um... nah its a bit wrong...~~"

funny thing is i was talking to manda on the phone for 56 mins, talked to lyss on msn and she told me to stay happy cos she thinks i've gone "emo" again lol. well tomorow i decide to call lyss, i think i am slowly getting better at this. when i use to be on the phone i would be really speechless but tonite me and manda were talking alot for 56mins! her battery ran off at the end so she sms me about it lol! i seem to be doing pretty good with manda and lyss atm!~

I want you to go ahead and try one of them. Don't let time pass. It's normal to feel attracted to more than one at a time, but you shouldn't necessarily hit on the one you like the best. Try going out with the one you think you could have a closer or closest relationship. By going out I mean DATE. Go out and DATE HER.
I want you to ask her out, come back here and give some results.

Do you happen to know what this "Manda" girl's favorite pokemon is?

lol.

I thought this thread was totally going nowhere until I saw >>355.

Anyways, if you don't speak Japanese, prepare to be rejected.

>>368 hmm i mite try and ask manda... seems more possible that she would go.

i'm not doing well with lyss right now actuali, she doesn't realy talk much now on msn. i'm actuali talking more to manda now, but what i'm afraid is that most of her friends know i like lyss and stuff but if i suddenly say i like manda which her friends know as well, they are gonna think i'm some sort of player....weird thing is i talk more to manda now. well i will ask manda out next week cos her birthday is right after the holidays, mayb get her a small gift or something!~

well. if manda has even the slightest more intelligence than lyss, then go for manda definitely. i am seriously tired of airy fairy girls like lyss. but that it probably because i don't like the idea of being told by other people that i should be HApPieeEE~~~!! 24/7 or else be considered an emo.

>>372 lol true, she thinks i'm turning emo again!

yeahh i think i'll go for manda now.... *sigh all that hard work gone..... mayb just time out with lyss for a while cos at the moment shes not really talking to me.

btw if i ask manda out, what do i say?!!

"Hey baby, you got a light?"

By the way, Benson, men should type with complete sentences, and proper spelling. Don't use "actuali" or "mayb", it's girlish. Please correct yourself.

And use more phone and less MSN. It naturally tends to make your relationships more based on actual meetings, while keeping the phone as intermediary to get to meet. I've said this before already.

>>375 oh sorry about that, stupid msn made me type like that.

hmm so phone is better then msn, well i better go charge my pre paid phone cos i can get free minutes on it. my parents would kill me if they see the phone bills if i talk to her everyday.

ohh btw i was thinking if i dont get the chance to give manda a small gift for her birthday, i was thinking maybe i can play the piano over the phone, is that a good idea?

do you know this girl well enough for buying her a gift to not be creepy?

i know her for about 5 months now, we are pretty close friends and stuff. i tried to call her just then but no one is picking up, i try again later

Just wondering, is your life all about trying to court girls? Cos this is one damn long thread. If I'm right, there's about 4 girls over 6 months that you devote all your time to, yet when it looks like you're gonna make a move, another one comes along and catches your eye (and you start all over again).

>>381 well for tthe first 4 months it was mostly about aya (the japanese girl) then everyone told me to move on and stuff, its either that i stuff up and start again or just keep trying cos it took me a while to get over Aya which she disappeared for a long time.

btw some crazy bastard flipped while driving my go-cart today and almost broke his arm... he was sent to the hospital, having a early birthday party today lol.

Play piano to her personally. Not over the phone, for her sake. And I meant to type like a man always, meaning on MSN as well.
Ask her out for dinner as a birthday present (doesn't have to be on the actual birth*day*). A kiss on a date is much more appropriate for a gift. You can ask her to close her eyes and stretch her hands, put your left hand over her eyes, your right hand you hand her any small gift, and then you can give her the "gift". If you try this, make sure you switch the purpose of your hands to hold the side of her head with the left hand (instead of keeping them over her eyes), and hold her hands with your right one (instead of holding the gift) as you kiss her.

>>383

That is probably the best way to kiss a girl. Wow, Mireille guy, you know your shit.

>>383
I'm all gooey inside..

ok guys... for some reason i'm going out with lyss again instead of manda..lyss suddenly started talking to me again today on msn again and this time no more "....." she randomly came up to me and said this " Hmm, you sound happier! YAY! stay like that!" and i told her about the crazy guy who flipped my go-cart and said it was my responsible for his injuries and she tells me "its not your fault! your too hard on your self!" and shes really talkative today some reason.

but the problem here is... i really like both manda and lyss. i can talk to manda about anything and she wont be freaked about it and she seems to be intrested in me like i called her and she didn't pick up, she sms me telling she went to visit her brother at a place and went to a winery, left her phone in the hotel and should be back on monday. this is really confusing me...i really like both of them, i realized from the past 6 months i prob sound like a player since theres been 4 girls i talk about in this thread.

>>383
Tell us some more hypothetical situations.....like what benson should do on christmas day.

Stop, stop, stop, and stop. Are you following ANYTHING that I'm writing you? Open your eyes, and notice, that I INSIST that you need to focus on one girl. When you are close to getting one girl, other girls notice your change in attitude and subconsciously become nicer to you. This is consistent with a guy or girl being suddenly approached by several potential partners at a time. Women are born with that instinct of knowing the timing for relationships, so if you don't take care of yourself, you will end up in failure. You want to get as close as possible and hook up a girl (as when you go fishing you hook a fish and it can't get away) to enjoy total freedom with her. You are NOT in that position, so you CANNOT go for both. Once you hook one fish, you take it out, put it in your bucket, THEN go for the other. If you don't and try catching a second fish, you'll lose both fish. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

>>384 Far from being the best way to kiss a girl. There are surely better ways, just be creative. If you're a girl, and have been kissed like that, I accept the compliment. If you're a guy but have not tried my approach, I suggest you practice it with any girl you can, (if it's still way too hard to practice on your friends, you can practice it by yourself on your forearm or hand.) Until you tell me it worked will I accept your compliment. Heck, you can even use "practice" as an excuse to woo a second girl (As in Benson has hooked the first girl already and "innocently" uses her second friend as practice for the first).
Let me expand on >>383
Make sure to use reinforcing commands such as "keep your eyes closed," or "hold the present," while switching your hands around. This reinforces your position, and makes the kiss more submissive, (almost all girls like the submissive kiss, that is, the girl receiving, and the guy giving the kiss). (Some exceptions for this are women who like younger partners. They are usually on the aggressive side of the kiss, and personally, I like those kisses since they are much hotter, and become quickly erotic if the man is aggressive as well.)

>>Make sure to use reinforcing commands such as "keep your eyes closed," or "hold the present," while switching your hands around. This reinforces your position, and makes the kiss more submissive, (almost all girls like the submissive kiss, that is, the girl receiving, and the guy giving the kiss).

Too true.

>>388 i know what you mean not to go for both, at the moment i am still going for lyss. ok so say if i dont get lyss then i go for manda, would that be better?! well i tried to pratice on what you said >>383 but i think i need more pratice.

well i will stay the same with manda at the moment as in good/close friends and try to get lyss. i'm seeing her this thursday around 2:00PM at the same place as last time. oh i was gonna give her this small gift and on that day i will tell her to close her eyes and put her hand out, then i'll put the gift into her hands and close them, it'll be a surprise, would that be good?

If you're not man enough to kiss her in the mouth, do give her a kiss in the cheek. It's corny, but I guess it can't be helped until you practice a little more and overcome your shyness. This is the birthday girl, correct? (Remember that the actual gift is the kiss, not the object. Follow the kiss with a compliment. Maybe she'll hint you to give her another actual kiss.) Any man can get any girl. Stick with one until she's completely yours, and remember not to waver in your decision. Be creative and practice!

lol stalkers

>>393 I've got to admit Benson's fun. Such a meek guy with good potential, and thriving with opportunities. Wouldn't want to see him fail in becoming a Casanova and turn into one of those heterophobic self-pitying idiots.

>>394 haha thanks, your a great help here.

well i found out that lyss has someone she likes, dont know who the guy is. i found out from her friend when i was talking to her today on msn. but we're stil talking normaly, her friend told me to keep a little distance from her and that love changes ~~" this is getting rather confusing.. i really want to know what kind of guy she likes, i've been really nice to her and always support her in every way. well who knows, maybe love does change.

Benson is a natural loser. He will never succeed

well lyss is out. she likes someone else and dont worry about who it is, just know that she doesnt like you the way you like her. so now focus on manda and hopefully things will work out for the best.

No! Are you understanding what I'm writing at all? You don't care who he is and what he does! He is your competition, and there is no reason to give up on her just because she hints she might like someone else. You will go all the way with her until she's yours, or she dismisses you completely for the other guy. Otherwise, you will get dragged into a drama (I don't want to get into the details of the drama, but try to figure it out yourself.) Read the post I've written about this! (I forgot where the post is... I've gotta start logging and organizing these posts.)

Found the earlier post:
http://4-ch.net/love/kareha.pl/1159108280/3

>If you're a man, you will ask her out, meet and court her, and disregard the fact that she's seeing someone else.

>>395

Maybe Lyss tell her friend to tell you that she likes someone else?

Maybe because she doesn't want to tell you directly, plus she knows you like her, so she doesn't want to hurt you.

Why don't you say to her, you like her?

And ask her if she is willing to go out with you.

I think Lyss is the type who is not sure or undecided, and shes young, air-headed type who thinks she has lot of opportunities, confidence about herself being able to get many relationships easily. As you said yourself, she is cute. Thats it she is cute, she thinks alot guys will go for her because she knows she is cute. Generally Girls/women, in developed nations are picky and independant, they can choose whatever they want, and can easily be the players if they are cute. So you see, pretty, cute, girls are hard to get. They believe they have so many opportunities for better guys, they can jump onto other guys if they feel like it. Plus she seems like the girlish drama girls. Asian girls who are cute in developed countries think they are all great, most of them want white guys, even though they don't want to admit it.

Benson, she shouldn't be serious about relationships, you and the girls are so young. Don't expect too much out of it. Just play it through and see how it goes, don't make yourself depressed about it. think of it as some light-hearted game. if you lose, you will be fine as it is just an unimportant event you just had, if you win, then good on you. Really just think of dating as a joke, don't take it seriously.

>>398
No..just no. There's too much risk and dignity involved by chasing her down despite knowing she likes someone else. Some girls may like that kind of thing and fall for your straightforward approach, but for others, it could prove to be quite the dilemma and you will be stuck in the sympathy/rebound trap. In this trap your feelings be toyed with to no end...not a pretty sight.

@Benson: >>400 (get) is quite right. Lyss is the undecided, airheaded type girl. That being said, it would be meaningless to start a relationship with her unless you're into all that mushy, shallow, doting-on-the-girl stuff. You will never know what she truly thinks of you unless you ask her out- which is a bad idea considering she likes someone else. Being an asian girl myself, I know that even then, we will tend to be quite coy about our feelings.

Focus your attention on manda.

greatt on my birthday i have to find out the guy that lyss likes..

btw >>396 you remind me of the guys who use to pick on me, i remember they said the exact same words. "your such a looser! you have no chance!" but i guess it turned out the opposite since they are so scared of me now... (long story) anyway >>396 if you got nothing good or nice to say then dont bother saying anything.

>>400 i think what you said is very true, shes 2 years younger then me so... yeah. the guys name is tony and i asked lyss what his last name was... she got all worried and started asking me "...? what u wanna know? u wanna stalk hin LOL!" so i just said "just wondering if i know him". ok i'm in the mood of fustration cos this guy looks REALLY palthetic and a 12 year old kid! and his got a xanga site and talks about lyss as well... like "omg sweet talk isn't working with lyss.. HELP!?" WTF is that?!! i cant beleive lyss likes this guy!! its really ANNOYING!!

i REALLY REALY want to just move on and focus on manda instead... cos this guy has gone out with LYSS and prob more then once from what i have read...okk i gotta calm down at the moment.

>>398 i understand what you mean, i should be going till the end but the thing is.. i dont want to waste time on lyss if shes likes this TONY guy soo much, i have this problem of giving up easily which i think is happening right now. but to be honest, i compared lyss and manda, personaly i like manda more cos shes nicer, same intrest and i can tell her about anything and she wont be freaked about it, she actuali helps out. i mean with lyss right, she'll prob think i'm EMO again and then go with the silence thing "...." so i really want to just move on. what do you guys think?

It's great that you're starting to think on your own. You have a much clearer image of yourself, (and her); and it's good that you feel that way, and it means you have the guts to move along.
Since you've expanded a little more on the situation, it makes sense. It's too bad she's going for the other kid and she can't see you; she'll regret it later. As for you, now that you know more about each personality, either way you decide, you'll do fine... as long as you keep practicing those moves. Good luck B.

>>402
just like i've been saying all along.. she wants to be surrounded by people who dote endlessly on her all the time as >>401 said. hell, i'll bet if you wore black socks to school, she would call you emo. i'm glad you've finally come to that realisation. a relationship with her would only last a month at most. she doesn't have the capacity or attention span to have a serious relationship.
i could tell her character from your chat logs straight away. although i guess it helps that i'm a girl myself. seriously, there is something wrong with her, not you.

Finally, a female post that we can trust!

it seems that manda also has someone she likes, i kinda dont wanna go tomorow to meet lyss for some reason. the thing with me and manda is, she knows almost everything about me, we talk alot and mostly about our life. i told her about last year how i use to get bullied around at school and that i tried to kill my self, i was surprised to find her not freaked out about it and rather said "must be painful last year for you" and i told her how i came back and started standing up for my self and helping others. she says "i think its great that your helping people with the same situation, make a difference!"

at the moment i really dont know what i am thinking, its either give up everything or work harder to get manda. latley when i talk to manda she says "take care...", but i doubt it means anything. well i will see what happens tomorow because i reckon i'm in the stage of confusing my self.

o btw it turned out that TONY guy lyss like is a player, and she likes him cos his REALLY REALLY good at clarinet... PFT

So.........who do you really love? Yuo should check up on Aya!

Tokyo, Aya is long gone.

>>408 very true

i beleive this thread is coming to an end, lyss just messaged me saying she wont make it so i wont need to do now... havn't seem manda online for a while either, this really is coming to an end xD

>>and his got a xanga site and talks about lyss as well... like "omg sweet talk isn't working with lyss.. HELP!?" WTF is that?!! i cant beleive lyss likes this guy!! its really ANNOYING!!

Delicious irony.

>>and she likes him cos his REALLY REALLY good at clarinet

"Duh" is the proper phrase to use here, I think. If you want to sit on Lyss' couch naked while she listens to you improvise for hours, you're going to need a musical instrument. It is a sure-fire way into the female heart. You know, savage breasts and all.

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

hmm i was talking to manda last night about tony, she kept saying sorry taht she forgot my bday lol! even just then i got a message from her apologizing about forgetting it xD

her birthday is coming up so i have decided to play the piano for her on that day, too bad i cant play it in front of her so i can only do it over the phone ~~"

ok... lyss just suddenly flooded me with "sorry" in japanese on msn, should i just ignore or reply?! my friend told me not to say anything lol

dont play her the song. she forgot your birthday why should you do something special for her. she is sending text messages saying sorry, she still didnt give you anything. If she makes it up then go ahead, if not don't waste your time.

>>414

Those girls are just playing with you. You said everything about yourself. They are kind of looking down at you. You said about your past and they down on you. Lyss keeps pestering you with emo, and i think she has an attitute who don't look up to those who are emo. You shouldn't say so much about your past. now they know you are vulnerable and insecure, which makes them think of you as a low person. They may also be like that, but they want guys who aren't. Girls/women want reliable and confident guys/men because they have to, it what makes girl/women, girl/women. Girl/women always have an inferior complex to men, so they instinctually have to rely on them and take their commands. Girls/women are emo, but they want guys to not be emo, and want guys to lead them out of their emo self who is afraid and not confidence of progressing.

well i've been texting messages with manda for the whole day today, shes just asking me wat happened with lyss and stuff.
yesterday with lyss i just said "hhhmmm, dw about it" and left cos i had to go to a friends house. well i'm stil going good with manda, i'll still have another go with manda, hope playing the piano can get me further lol xD

tell lyss to piss off...eloquently of course.
seriously, she'll only play with you if she's bored.

whats intresting was last night i found out lyss rejected tony and she flooded me with "eewws" about tony as well... what the hell is going on!! i'm going to get things fixed today.

manda is epexting me to call her or something, cos she said "talk to u tomorow yea?" hmm i better go pratice the piano otherwise i might stuff up.

i decided to sms manda at 12 tonight and say "HAPPY BIRTHDAY", then give her the surprise by playing the piano this afternoon! you guys think that would be good?

>>419
interpretation: she is bored of tony. the fawning all over her act only kept her interested for a little while. now she wants an older guy to play with.

just ignore her. "emos" don't solve other people's love problems. she'll want you more, but just remind yourself, you won't get anywhere with girls like her.

gluck with manda.

>>421 yeah i understand, i'm just staying normal friends with her. i'm about to send the message!

well i'm going to call manda and play the piano for her soon, but i'm not sure what to say!! should i just say "hey manda happy birthday, since its your birthday i decided to play the piano for you" hmm i'm really not sure what to say, little help here please!

last night, i played the piano for manda and she loved it!!! she kept saying thank you and how sweet it was, even posted it on her xanga xD!! we talked for a while after that, seems to be going good!!

looks good, keep it up

so whats going on now? any news with manda benson?

well we're only emailing each other and stuff, thats about it.

manda's been telling me really personal stuff like how much her dad makes.... does tht mean anything? we seem to be getting closer

Just make sure you don't forget to make a move and become just "a friend"!

>>428

I know it is personal... kind of wondering... how much does her dad make?

latley manda has been starting convo's with me. yesterday when talking to her she suddenly said this..
M: r u ok?
B: eh wat do u mean?
M: oh... well u just sound very distant thats all

i was talking pretty normally and yea something did happen yesterday but somehow she knows theres something wrong with me. btw 3 days ago, my family friend told me she had a bf and yesterday told me again she doesn't. she also said "even if she doesn't have a bf, she wont like u anyway" and i asked if lyss likes anyone and she said "atm no... but if ur going for her dont.. cos she wont like u anyway" and yesterday when she told me manda has no bf she said "but she wont like u anyway". i was REALLY pissed and we had this massive fight, tomorow i'm going badminton with lyss and the family friend, i wont even talk to her there. i realized these days that i dont like manda but i'm really in love with her now... god i went pretty crazy knowing she has a bf 3 days ago... i'm just really pissed with my family friend for putting me down.

too slow

my friend in mandas school suggested to write a love letter to her or sing a song on the piano. i reckon thats a bit early to do it but she says shes gonna help me with it. i mite see manda next week

i am preparing my self to confess to manda very soon, we're even more closer then ever. i might confess to her next month and i'm writing the love letter at the moment... gosh i hope it works this time. i almost confess to her in a email today... god

>>432
BLOODY SECONDED.

I notice that you still haven't confirmed what either girl's favorite pokemon is.

>>436 cuts right to the important bits

god if her fav pokemon is such a big deal i will ask her next time lol
manda messaged me the other day saying "if you ever felt like that again, i'm always here to help =D" reason for that is cos i had a fight with my parents since they crack at me easily and got a bit depressed. i really want to confess now but i dont think the time is right. i might see her next week, hopefully

Did you kiss her yet? If you didn't kiss her yet, that could be your confession.

Tell her that you find something about her sexy, and make her close her eyes. Then kiss.

that will be a while before i kiss her lol, depends if i can ever meet her again XD

benson forget the love letter and go for the goal. next time you meet her give her a kiss and then see what happens.

Print out and memorise:

You: Hey Manda.
Manda: Oh hey, Benson.
You: Pause Uh can we talk? I have something to tell you. Take her hand and lead her to a bench
Manda: Umm, ok..sure. Let go of her hand
You: Dramatic pause. I just wanted to tell you how much you mean to me. You've always been there for me, and I really feel lucky to have met you. My friend told me that you just thought of me as a friend, and I respect that, but lately I've started to like you alot. Look into her eyes You make me feel happy when I'm around you and I want to be more than friends with you. You're really special to me. I just wanted to let you know.
Manda: Flustered
You: Kiss her hand

Walk into the sunset

Wake up from dream and live in the real world

Live rest of life in a deep, inescapable depression

>>443 i will try that next week we meet, we're going to a beach so it will be better if i can do it during the sun set!

if shes crowded with people, i go up to her and say "hey manda, uh can we talk? i have something to tell you..." right?

god i'm already nervous right now ~~"

i know it is a big undertaking but dont follow >>443 plan. life is unscripted, so you will have to feel your way through the situation. just relax and dont get too worked up over this. you are a resisent guy so if this doesnt work, like always, will walk away wiser, taller and ready for what comes next.

>>446 lol, you're actually taking >>443's plan?

is >>443 plan not good?? hmm i have decided to confess when i see her and we are going to the beach. i was thinking either give her the letter or just say it.

okay, I guess i got a little carried away. but seriously, what is wrong with starting off with "hey manda, uh can we talk? i have something to tell you..."? if you haven't noticed, benson's way of approaching women is rather scripted itself. (no disrespect to benson), but if he's gonna get anywhere with this girl, he sounds like he needs to follow a couple of lines to get his confidence up. yes, confess to her at the beach. i'm excited for you buddy. just make sure the palm cards aren't too big to see. jk.

nothing wrong with that part. it is just the >Print out and memorise:

>>450 lol its not disrespectful, it is true anyway xD well i like ur plan anyway so i mite stick to that on that day.

i'm thinking of doing it before we leave cos thats around sun set time and hopefully no one is around.

my family friend who is a friend of manda said i might have a chance after she saw my messages with her

>>451
that is the MOST IMPORTANT part. she can tell that you're prepared and well organised. something that every girl looks for in a man.

i'm getting nervous every day! the day is getting closer when i confess to manda! god...

Have someone punch your arm repeatedly, so that the pain in your arm will distract you from the pain in your heart. Alternatively it could make you numb, and therefore insensitive to any type of rejection.

Hahaaaa. Only kidding. You can do it BEnsonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

If you fall, i'm here to catch you.

Sincerely yours,
Secret Admirer

Benson, you're taking too long.

>>457
I agree. 458 posts too long.

okk i have a problem... well i dont know if its a problem...

well on my forums, her friends at school was talking about something she sms me cos she cant go on monday and she sms me saying "hey u should come to our school celebration evening or smthing!" and manda on the forums suddenly said "Benson, do you like me?"

i am so speechless right now, my family friend who is her friend at school asked her what she thinks, apparently she doesn't want anyone to know what she thinks, everyone says i have a chance now and should confess as soon as possible, shes talking a bit shyish today but stil talking normally. what do you think is going on!? btw her school evening is on the 20th of november and my exams are on the 23rd.. godd this is bad or maybe good lol

okk i was just talking to manda and she just told me REALLY REALLY personal stuff about her family... i think i have a chance right now! i might confess to her in 2 weeks time, go to her school and wait at the front gates for her and confess to her when i see her! my god is this really going to work out?! if it does... i will be a VERY happy man!

I don't know why you decided two weeks but, you're the man. Plan your timing well and best of wishes to you!

>i think i have a chance right now!

>i might confess to her in 2 weeks time

you're doing it wrong.

seriously, what is wrong with you benson? you let the best opportunity slip because you plan too fucking much. ALL THE SIGNS ARE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE. I THOUGHT YOU FREAKING CONFESSED TO HER AT THE BEACH????? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING IT OFF? DO YOU WANT TO SCREW THIS UP??

freaking hell. everytime i come on 4-ch, your last post is always "omg, i MIGHT confess to her this time!" or "i MIGHT confess to her NEXT CHRISTMAS." seriously dood, i was rooting for you after you dumped lis. i thought you had developed some initiative and realised what girls were like, but now i'm not so sure.

PS. even if you planned for your confession to be the perfect time (being at her ball and all), chances are it will not turn out like you wanted it too. the best time to confess is usually that unplanned fleeting instance. ie: when she said "Benson do you like me?" you should have launched your attack from there. in person, preferably.

>>463 i havn't confessed at the beach cos thats wat was suppose to happen on monday and shes not going on monday. reason why i dont wan to do it on the forums or msn is cos i've done that in the past and its the worst place to confess on the net, the only time i can see her is in 2 weeks or a week. unless i should do it on the phone but that doesn't seem to be a good idea, i will confess to her if she does ask me on msn, i'll prob say "would u rather me telling u in person?" and some how arrange to meet. or just call her if she asks me and tell her on the phone.

If you can't meet her right now, thats unavoidable. Instead, call her and up and tell her, "I have something really important I want to tell you when you get back. How about meeting somewhere?"

Good luck man,
a girlfriendless comrade

aahh thanks thats a good idea!! i'll be doing it next monday!

Does this girl like guns, benson?

steyr aug perhaps?

hmm amanda just told me she likes someone else...so i guess...its another rejection....i think i will disappear for a while

how about you get back on your feet and find some other girl. remember courting is a numbers game.

Such a high school drama. You take too long. Your youth will pass by quickly.

well to be honest i aint that down, just feel really weird thats about it. i guess i'll just move on again XD

like they say, theres plenty of fish out there

Sometimes you have to whack the fish over the head with an oar and drag it into the boat, though. Get what I'm saying?

yueah. if you give up over something as little as this, it just proves that you really didn't LOVE HER LIKE YOU CLAIMED YOU DID. wasn't this the girl who drove you crazy??? the one who you wanted to play piano for??? THE ONE THAT YOU FREAKING WAS GONNA CONFESS TO?? this wasn't a mere crush dude. you don't just "move on again" in this situation. you have to FIGHT FOR HER and maker her realise she WANTS YOU.

hmm its a bit hard from some infomation i got today...

yea i was crazy about her tilll today... apparently a friend of mine told manda about how i am going to confess to her on monday and she doesn't seem to be the type of person that will tell people about it so i find it really weird. my friend at school is suspicouse that she mite like me cos i'm very close to her and recently she just got over a guy she liked before and she suddenly called me today cos she heard i was away on msn and was turning emo or something. she has NEVER called me before so i called back today and she didn't answer but 2 mins later she messaged me twice by accideny saying "omg sorry i was in shower -_-", i talked to her for a while and she thought i was emo and got worried about it so i told her i was ok, then she said she will talk to me tomorow. so i rather find it weird that this girl told manda about monday... i dont think she likes me becasue i know that when she likes someone shes to shy to talk to them, really confused though cos we talk almost everyday.

so wat should i do about manda? i got rejected and i wanna know why my friend told manda about monday's confession.... it just doesn't make sense, and wat happen if this friend likes me?? should i go for the friend or stil go for manda?

To quote >>432

too slow

Oh, you kids and your "emo."

benson you should know that girl can never keep a secret. loose lips sink ships. next time dont tell a girl any thing important because females cannot be trusted.

thats so true...well manda emailed me today saying how nothing is going to change between us and that she will still be there for me if i need help and care for my well being... god shes such a nice person...

oh btw i forgot to say that the friend is Lyss.....today lyss made me promise i wont disappear and stop being by my self. hmm i must admit i'm not handling very well in this situation atm.... i'm seeing lyss tomorow cos shes giving me a CD. with manda i'm not sure what to do now but maybe remaining close friends like now will be good... i'm pretty sure lyss doesn't like me cos shes getting over this guy atm...but i'm not sure.. god i'm pretty hopeless at this.

CASE DISMISSED.

>>478

I second you.

lol i met lyss today at her school with my two friends and one of her friends. apparently my friend confessed to lyss's friend last week and she accepted it today.. god so lucky

i gave lyss this keychain and she really liked it, its a thank u gift for the last two days cos she helped me a bit with the rejection from manda. me and my friend were saying how out situation really is like a high school drama lol.

i got a email from manda yesterday, she said "nothing is going to change... i'm stil always gonna be there for u whenver u need help and care for ur well being, thats wat friends are for right?", i must admit i was really touched from the email. well its all good to me really, i stay the same with manda and my chances are stil there. i kind of found out why she rejected me..... apparently someone made this stupid story of me going for my family friend in the past and found manda more cuter and smart so rejected my family friend ect... i bet that really embarrased manda so she got annoyed.

btw apparnetly lyss really liked the gift and kept saying thank u and how cute it is. even told my family friend about it (my family friend goes to the same school as lyss and manda lol)

CASE DISMISSED.

AGAIN.

Indeed, this case is over.

write down the details of keychains on your blog, not here. we'd like to see just a tad more important matters than that.

What's next? are you going to tell us how you accidentally took 6 pieces of toilet paper instead of the usual five, because you were distracted thinking of a random girl who you saw in the bus?

then again i could reason to just not read this thread anymore, or rather not to take posts by some '映画男' serious anymore

>well its all good to me really, i stay the same with manda and my chances are stil there.

you're right that you stay the same with manda, but wrong that your chances are still there. you're deep in the friendzone, buddy.

>>485 sorry, i'll stop posting

>>486 prob true, stuck in the friendzone

i'll just quickly conclude that i was on the phone with lyss for 45 minutes and she called me twice today cos she thought i was depressed and she doesn't call guys. well anyway about time to end this thread since not much is happening. but just wanna say a big THANKS to all the previous anonymous whos helped me in the past.

If something SERIOUS happens, scream or something.

Eiga otoko, If something big happends, you know where to find us :D

>>487

You don't have to listen to those other guys. Post whatever you like whenever you like.

you really haven't learnt have you. i've heard you say "my family friend told manda..." about 219408kasjfaslkfja30129 times already. she screwed up your chances with lyss AND manda. but hey, what are friends for ^_^

>>491 very true, shes stuffed me up all the time. i guess my mouth is too big.

more like her mouth is too big

stick it in her pooper

>>494 lol how bout just duck tape her mouth next time XD

you should know which alternative she likes

I need an update.

well i saw lyss last week at badmin cos she told me to go and she seem excited knowing i was going. there was this intresting convo we had though last week...

Lyss: why dont u hit on her??! lol and then she'll get over it
Benson: zomg i'll rather jump off the window then hit on her!
Lyss: omgg!! wtf!! nooo!!!! dont jump!! if you jump i'll jump!!
Benson: what! why are you jumping cos of me?!
Lyss: i dunno, just felt like it

my friend said she really cares for me but doesn't really like me. i can only say me and lyss are really close friends but for some reason she doesn't feel like talking to me now cos she knows i'm not EMO. i really like lyss atm and i just want her to be happy even if she doesn't like me, i'll do anything to make her happy. i tried my best to make her like me but i guess i couldn't, some how i'm only seen as a FRIEND to everyone.

>>498
Maybe if you stop typing/talking like an idiot things will work out better for you. Grammar karma?

>Lyss: omgg!! wtf!! nooo!!!! dont jump!! if you jump i'll jump!!

Yeah, she is basically quoting "Titanic."

And if she doesn't like you, then why the fuck bother. You aren't going to benefit from helping her. Be selfish and only do something only if you benefit from it. That is why everyone thinks as you as a friend because you are always nice and no one can hate a nice guy. But girls never love a nice guy.

>>500 GET

maybe i should be more aggresive and harsh to her now lol, if being mr nice guy doesn't work, i think i should be the villain now.

How can you do that when you never even bought that Steyr AUG that was suggested to you several times?

because i dont have the money and licence to buy it yet lol

i was surprised to recieve a email from aya who told me her computer has a virus LOL...

SIF u got a virus! anyway i was sort of rejected by lyss cos she told me i'm not her type but i'm a REALLY good friend and a REALLY nice person. so i guess i'll have to fix my body up a bit since i am a little fat ._. time to work out

you do that. take a break from all the girls, shape up and then worry about girls.

today i recieved a shocking email from manda telling me that her best friend commited suicide the other day. i'm the 2nd person she told and she said she told me cos she really trust me. shes blaming her self for the friends death cos the guy called her 3 times but her phone as off. i told her not to blame her self for that and that its not her fault, and that i'm always here for her if she needs someone.

we played maple a bit and i think it made he felt better, hopefully she'll get better cos from the sound of it at the moment shes stil blaming her self. always sad to find out ur friend died.. *sigh

sorry to hear about that. i had a friend commit suicide, it can be difficult to get over it. just let her know you are there for her. it takes time to get over it but eventually she will be fine.

oh it may be dumb to say but for those who are fucked up: dont take advantage of her sorrow for your own personal gain.

now here got another guy with nick "映画男". like the famous "电车男"

>>509
the fuck?

>>509 lol yea another famous story like densha LOL SIF

anyway manda seem to be fine cept that one of her friends is telling people about the situation when she specificly told her not too, i was on the phone with manda 2 days ago for about 1 hour and 20 minutes and we talked alot. i'm away from home atm so she kept on asking me when i'm coming back and also text me saying "tell me when u come back :D" is she trying to ask me out? i kinda get that feeling cos on the phone she asked me twice when i'm coming back. lyss seems to be havin fun in japan atm lol

you guys wont beleive what happened!! ok i was talking to Aya (finally) who told me her computer was down for 4 months and she was too busy with school work and exams. we talked a bit about all the stuff we missed, i told her i missed her and she said she missed me as well. suddenly she said this...

Aya: hmm i like to tell you something
Benson: what is it?
Aya: i really like you
Benson: uh...really? (in japanese)
Aya: really(japanese)
Benson: hmm since when?
Aya: since last year when december
Benson: hmm wow.. to be honest i am surprised
Aya: hmm do you like me?!
Benson: hmm Aya....can you give me a little time? i need to think about it
Aya: ok!

i cant beleive it, Aya confessed to me and shes the first girl to confess to me in my life! the problem is, i alrdy like lyss but then i'm thinking. what if i dont be with lyss and miss this chance with aya?! i'm really confused now, my heart is with lyss but i dont know, this is kinda like my dream come true. what should i do?

well u already know what answer u might get. so dont do that. she lives miles away anyway. living far away is absolutely an obstacle to have romance with her, but it may be the best help when u want to forget about her

Man I just don't care anymore.

GO FOR THE MOST REACAHBLE ONE. Long distance relationships at this teenage years is rather bleh. Keep touch with her in case you have a chance to drop by her place.

I mean good god. If this is how things go in high school then I'm in for a real ride D:

i agree with >>513, this is the best chance to forget about her i mean this girl dumped you there waiting for so many months without saying a real reason and now she wants you back?! dont go that way, you'll just regret it in the future, stick with lyss.

DUMP HER!

Before we can give any actual advice, could you tell us what Aya's favorite pokemon happens to be?

>>517 why does pokemone matters so much in this thread?!

I'm sorry to say, but for a serious relationship, that is, one other then the "I got a girlfriend in japan" bragging rights. Aya is out of the question...sorry =/

okk i had a real think about it and i finaly chose to reject aya, why? heres some reasons....
-she made me wait for so long without a proper answer
-I alrdy have someone i truely like, Lyss

• as many people say long distance dont last long

-she hasn't really done anything that will make me like her now

there you go, i can think of more but thats the main reasons. i rather be friends then have long distance and regert later on. but i wont just rejet in her face, i'll explain it to her next time i talk to her.

>>520
dont worry. just reject her. she lives miles away, and havent even seen u before. she wont care as much as what u might think. she will be fine however harsh u reject her.

It seems to be Korean common sense

Jesus Christ is a Korean

Tom Cruise is a Korean

Carl Lewis is a Korean

Michael Jordan is a Korean

Queen Elizabeth is a Korean

American ancestors are Koreans

A Korean forges it

>>522 wtf with all the korean?

>>518

It's something that can immediately allow you to get an idea of someone's true nature. A person's favorite pokemon just says a lot about what kind of person he or she is.

>>524

I really like mudkips.

Well, that is a good choice. It tells me that you're either sensible or that you're easily influenced by peers.

>>526
this post tells me you're either retarded or not

well i successfully rejected Aya without a problem, she was fine with staying good friends. anyway my parents are thinking of movine me to taiwan from australia, i told lyss the other day and she got upset about it and kept on saying "as long as your happy, then its all good. you better be happy there, if its for your own good, i wont stop you." well its not confirmed whether i'm moving or not but if i am, i'm planning on confessing to lyss, i was thinking of buying her a nice necklace here but i'm not sure if thats a good gift. any suggestions what to buy?!

tell her first and then worry about buying a necklace. save your money

>>526

Yeah, I luvvv Mudkips.

today i went out with a girl i use to like, shes older then me though, it was only the two of us today. oh btw i'm not in australia, i'm in taiwan now for holiday, i only see her once a year when i come back, we normaly spend New years and watch the fireworks. well today when i met her i was rather speechless at the begining since i havn't seen her for so long, we walked around and chatted about what we been doing latley. she took me to see the university there and we walked around, then got tired so we sat down and was waiting for a friend. we talked for about 2 hours about our lives in 2006~ however the friend was busy so she didn't turn up. the girl then says next time they'll come to my house and cook, i said "sure! that'll be nice!" anyway we went to eat at a small shop then went to look at some gift shops and walked around. then we took a bus home, well didn't really do much but it was nice to go out with her, shes coming over to my place next week to cook haha. oh by the way anyone read the actual "Densha Otoko" novel? i just bought it today in the book store, its the whole message board format, intresting...

i tried to ask lyss out on the email since i might be moving back to taiwan to study. but she said "yeah sure we could go out sometime...with Angela(my big mouth family friend) and peoples right?
We'll organize it when we get back, and can I bring along my friend who came
from Hong Kong and is staying with me for the remainder of the summer holidays." from the sound of it, i dont think i'm able to go out with her with only her and me. she also said "keep emailing me...even if you go back to taiwan" i guess i'm stuck in the friend zone...again. i might give up on lyss since i'm moving back, if i am then i will 100% give up and stay good friends with her, if not then maybe i'll give it another try.

recently i've been going out with that girl i use to like, shes 7 years older then me and we known each other for 3 years. today i went out with her and my older brother came along, he was really flirty around her, i kinda got jealous to be honest. during dinner, my brother kept on asking if he didn't have a gf, would she choose him. she said "yes", then my brother asked "what about someone whos 7 years younger then you?" and she replied "well.. they have to be mature since his younger then me". btw recently we're getting close since we are really close friends anyway, she suggested me to go to her school cos i told her i might be moving back and i myself know that she feels save around me. but the problem i stil have is that i stil dont have confidence with girls even though i've gotten much better, my brother kept on patting her head and grabbing her arms when crossing the roads. should i be doing that?! maybe thats why i never got chances but i just feel nervous and afarid that they might think wrong of me. i'm kinda starting to have feelings for her again cos when i see her, alot of memories rush in my head. shes really important to me, she saved me during a really depressing time. whats also bugging me is that i'm afraid if my brother is just playing around with her, cos my brother already has a gf and his acting as if his trying to pick her up. i really dont know what to do cos he could tell i was a little sensative when he was flirting with the girl. i'll be seeing her again in two days, if i move back i'll see her alot. also is it strange for someone to like a person whos 7 years older then you?? some people find it really weird but otherss find it normal, anyway i feel she treats me different this year, in a good way.

Jesus christ dude you are simply shooting blanks now.

You have known her for 3 years, and she is 7 years older than you, while you are 16.
Unless she is into teenagers, then you may be more or less, well, screwed.

Seriously dude, what I suggest you to do is to calm down and stop thinking about girls just for 2 days or so. Because right now you are simply getting boners at random. You need to pick one REASONABLE girl, then focus on her, not some swinging between Aya/Lyss/23yearoldfriendwhoyouhaveknownfor3years/Badmintongirl/whatever.
Honestly, I stopped paying attention a hundred posts ago once I got confused whom are you actually trying to get.

Also, you are moving to Taiwan. Lots of cute girls there (around your age), right?

>>533 yeah, there is alot of cute girls around my age. well i'm obvioursly thinking too much again and i really should take my time to think. this really makes me look like a player
_|￣|○" i think i'll stop posting till i find someone i really want to be with them, so far it was lyss but since i'm moving back i thought i'll give up since she doesn't really like me.

>i'm obvioursly thinking too much again and i really should take my time to think

what?

It simply seemed that you are popping a boner, then dumping whatever the girl you were going for and go for the newfound boner-inducer.

What I want is you to cool down just for a moment, clear your head, and then think what you really need to do.

>>536 i think thats been my problem for my whole life, i never really cool down and think clearly what i really want or need to do, even with my own life. i guess thats what i should have been doing in the first place then jumping around from one to one.

btw i gave up on alot of girls in this thread for either they rejected me(Manda), they disappeared (aya) or they dont like me (lyss). i still like lyss but i never got the chance to do anything with her especially with my annoying big mouth family friend following us everywhere. i'm trying to find a way to go out with lyss alone but i think shes not confortable doing that.

Well, I do have to admit, you have done much more in a few months than I have in... years D:.

Well, dude. I think it's STAGE CLEAR here. You MIGHT try out with Lyss, but don't hold your breath. But when going for Lyss, don't be so stressed out. You sound like stressed out like all the time. Like you have constipated for 9 years or something.

If luck is on your side, then luck will pull some strings and help you out. Believe me, miracles have happened even to the most common of folks.

Good luck.

(Also don't also say BUT DISASTERS ALSO HAPPEN. Well, that's the whole thing with the yin and the yang. Shit happens, then you win the lottery. Etc.)

From my past experience, I suggest that you stay away from friends. I think that probably like me, the girls see you as a nice guy and are just getting friendly with you.

Friends of friends are ok tho. That's about how all of my friends found their girlfriends and boyfriends.

I guess you could call me a believer in the friend-zone.

You're also moving to Taiwan right? Unless you plan on coming back to Australia, perhaps you should concentrate on your studies more for the time being. You wouldn't want to look back in 10 years time, still single, and regret not focussing more on your studies to get a decent job.

If you really want more advice, wait until University/College before you find a girlfriend. Lot's more choices.

>>540
Love and Romans University is on this board

>>539 well i was planning if i do go back to australia, i'll stop on the girl chasing things and concentrate on my studies since its my last year of high school, get good grades and get into a good university. like you said which i reckon is a great idea.

if i do move back, i dont think i'll have time to go on msn and talk to anyone since the studies here is really strict and most students dont have much free time. they only sometimes go out on the weekends as a group of friends which i reckon is pretty good. i'll be able to meet new friends and stuff.

well i'm stil thinking carefully whether i'm going to stay in Taiwan or not.

>>538 hahaha i wont say that, i know if bad things happen the good things will happen, like you say shit happens anyway and we gotta live with it.

long time no see everyone
quiet alot of things happened when i came back to australia...
so far i completly have no contact with lyss now cos we had this little fight which is complicated, basicly i asked her to the formal but got rejected and all these weird stuff happened in between. i've met quiet alot of people in class that i attend now, so far nothing intresting is really going on, also i recently moved house and the worst thing is... my house is right next to lyss, i was exctied at the begining but now its so akward. anyway i'll report back if something DOES happen,

also my close friend is trying to make me look good or something, shes took me to a stylist for my hair cut and is telling me to exercise alot so i can loose weight etc, prehaps something may happen in a month or two xD

well, i see that you're progressing further than any of us have. my best wishes [[;

>also my close friend is trying to make me look good or something, shes took me to a stylist for my hair cut and is telling me to exercise alot so i can loose weight etc, prehaps something may happen in a month or two xD

Finally. A girl you can listen to.

Well if you have someone that you like... wouldn't it be natural to confess. Well anyways I think there are lots of opportunities in the future even if you don't get any girl right now. But I hope that your love life will turn out well. Fighting!

whats funny was i asked lyss to the formal as good friends but she said shes afraid i'm gonnna like her again and she doesn't wanna encourage it. then my friend went up to her and called her a coward and she think it was me which started the fight. well we havn't talked at all now, her friend said to give her time.

at the moment, theres this girl in my tution class that i went out with the other day for lunch, first time i talk to her and we seem to get along pretty well. shes seems like a nice girl and i havn't talk to her on msn yet since been busy latley. i think i'll just find my chance to talk to her in class then.

i've come to the end where i have no social life, i seem to have gone back to my old life before i met aya, lyss or manda. i try to talk to people but they seem to ignore me or see me as some not normal person, i just say "hey hows your week?" and they say "eh....ok...", i really dont know what to do now and loosing more confidence then ever, i really want to give up＿|￣|○

latley i'm getting really anti social, dont really talk to people or socialize even if i did i just get ignored. what is going on!!

>>548
you hadn't noticed that everyone always answer "eh... ok" when you ask how their day/week/etc was? it's a generic answer, because it's a generic question.

I wouldn't give up on meeting people. The very fact that you've been and still are close to several people is testament to the fact that you're successful at talking with people and holding a friendship with the potential of a relationship.

It seems like right now, though, you don't have a clear goal, so this thread is becoming a form of blog of your daily life, as all these different people seem to keep coming and going. Sooner or later, you're going to have to choose someone and significantly try with that person, even if you get turned down initially, rather than just continually bouncing from person to person, with people you've been with before, or are looking at now as next-in-line.

i think the problem i had was i kept bouncing around, so far the only girl i'm socializing with is a close friend of mine who we talk on the phone every day. it seems to be a habbit since i didn't call her for 3 days and she wondered what happened to me. at the moment i kind of like her but i'm not too sure my self, she seems nice and all but i dont think she will like me.

Well, if you're talking on the phone every day, and you both seem to like each other, then just ask "Hey, do you want to catch dinner tomorrow? My treat?"... Perfect way to start getting more serious if another relationship's what you're really after right now...

>>552 i'll give it a try, its easy for me to ask her out at the moment.

*help! i got the date but i'm not sure where to go, any suggestions?!

umm, take her somewhere you would like to go with her

Depends on how well you know her; If you are fairly casual in your relationship, a little diner or cafe or something similar would probably be nice... If you're not that well-off as far as being close with her yet, try a larger, more expensive restaurant...

Either way, you can bring up why you chose the place with a phrase similar to: "I always wanted to try this place, and I thought you'd be the perfect person to invite!"

well we are very close since we talk everyday on the phone, she tells me stuff she dont normaly tell people. i was thinking of taking her to a nice italian restraunt for dinner, would that be good?

I for one, am sick of this thread.

I was vaguely interested in your internet love interest, and I could deal with your issues with Liz. But freaking hell, your little issues never seem to end. Without fail you seem to conjure up some new trivial problem about a girl every couple of months.
You would think that by now you would have either gotten past the "I'mma so desperate for a girlfriend" stage, or you would have improvised with the endless stream of advice that you've gotten from here (which all say the same thing anyway).

Are you so socially inept that you have to discuss every single girl that crosses your path and turn them into an opportunity??

Seriously dude, your life sounds like it revolves around getting your first girlfriend. Well here's a protip buddy: If you cared a little less, then you would probably pull in a couple of decent chicks. But as it stands, you think WAY TOO MUCH about it, and therefore you project yourself as a desperate guy, driving away all the girls.

>>558 i know i may sound desprate on this thread, and it is true that i seem to have problems with every single girl i meet. i have a problem with girls is because i dont socialise enough with girls to understand them, sure i had a few close friends last year like lyss and manda but that was about it. i look desprate becasue i dont even have friends that are girls, the only girl i talk to now is the one i'm taking to dinner this week. if you really must know, i use to be a hikkikimori and a very antisocial person. last year was the only time i started socialising with girls so thats why i kept asking questions about them because i dont know what to do. unlike a friend of mine at school who actuali is desprate because he would plan things to get peoples attention. he tried to pick up lyss last year but i stuffed up all his plans. with lyss and manda, i just naturaly got close to them because they found me as a good friend and someone they could trust but not someone to be a boyfriend. i never had a single girl that likes me because people in the past found me weird as i dont talk much. right now i'm not even trying or doing anything with this girl, shes the one who calls me every night and talk about these things that happen in her life.

right now i have bigger issues and problems then with girls at the moment, so if you think i'm those people who ONLY think about how to get a frecken girlfriend every minute, then sorry you mistaken the wrong guy. i for one aint like those faggot players who has like what...4 girlfriends at a time and acting all trihard like they are some sort of gangstars.

Sigh... Again...

You did not "used to be a hikkikimori"... You were shy, and antisocial, but the fact that you had any friends, and left your home for more than food & water makes you definitively not a hikkikomori... Please, everyone, yourself included, stop using that word to describe yourself being shy with girls, or just emo in general... That's not what it means, and it's just embarrassing even to we readers, to hear people describe themselves that way...

Anyway... You should, by this point, after going through about 3 or 4 girls here, be able to competently handle this... Of course Italian or any place would be fine; And I think already, several suggestions have been made about places to go, as well as sort-of pickup lines to use while having dinner...

You need to take that advice & go with it! Now get out there & take her to a dinner, and try to get to know her even better!

>i dont socialise enough with girls to understand them

show me a man that does understands women, and i will show you a fool

>>560 i guess ur right, its just people these days use the word "emo" and "hikkikimoro" alot to describe us antisocial shy people .___.

anyway i got good news, last night me and lyss are back to normal, we're back to good friends again. i dont think i wanna question her anything incase she gets pissed about it.

i'll have to read some old posts, i remember there was one desribing everything you should do in a dinner. thanks everyone!

>>559

>right now i have bigger issues and problems then with girls at the moment..

It certainly doesn't sound like it from way you even bother to maintain this thread.

>>so if you think i'm those people who ONLY think about how to get a frecken girlfriend every minute, then sorry you mistaken the wrong guy. i for one aint like those faggot players who has like what...4 girlfriends at a time and acting all trihard like they are some sort of gangstars.

Well, if you're desperate it doesn't mean you're a "trihard gangstar". And you most certainly wouldn't have 4 girlfriends at a time. I think anyone would have worked that out by reading your first post.

>>i seem to have problems with every single girl i meet. i have a problem with girls is because i dont socialise enough with girls to understand them..

To reiterate, you are way too young to be so desperate. Don't try to understand the other sex at your age.

Besides, it's not as if you listen and carry out our advice anyway. You always end up doing something different, because you had already predetermined what you were going to do anyway. I recall telling you that Lyss was your typical asian ditz. Any effort would be wasted on her. Did you listen? No. Instead you went after her like there was no tomorrow. What happened? She was playing with you and had some other guy up her sleeve. You got hurt. But it's okay, because you had a rebound called Manda. Hey, as long as you got one of them right?...and so the tragic story continues..

>>563 Lyss wasn't playing with me, i was just not her type and my friend is working on that at the moment, shes that girl who took me to get my hair cut and is making me exercise to loose weight etc. me and lyss are still good/close friends right now and i'm happy with that at the moment, i dont know why but i just want her to be happy.

I'm techinicly in my last year of high school and we have massive stress from test and homework so thats why i said i got bigger issues then finding a girl friend.

i admit, i didn't really listen to the advice about lyss cos you guys kept thinking she was playing on me but she wasn't, she just happens to be really nice to her friends and since we were close she helped me alot when i was in a mentally unstable time last year. manda was also like that and i thought you guys told me to give up on lyss and find someone new and at that time i met manda. Lyss and Manda are the only two girls who understands me and are really ncie to me not to mention changed my life last year. apparently i'm the only guy lyss is close to and at the moment, we're back to normal after a long fight that i managed to fix =D

>>564

>>I'm techinicly in my last year of high school and we have massive stress from test and homework so thats why i said i got bigger issues then finding a girl friend.

Interesting, I'm in my last year too. Well, seeing as you're probably the same age as me, I'll stop nagging about how young you are. It's your life, I'll stop being such a bitch. Right now I don't really have time to be checking posting here let alone be in a relationship (rejected a friend a few weeks ago partly because of this), so in that respect I can sort of relate.

Also, being asian, I know the way a lot (not all) of asian girls work. They have guys eating out of their hand whenever they please. It's so unhealthy to watch. When you described Lyss and posted her convos on here, she fitted that stereotype. But I do admit that I don't know her in person, so whatever. If you think differently, then that's your judgment. I suppose it is better to have her as a friend because if you had a ditzy asian girl as an enemy, you would have a lot of trouble.

Anyway, remember your priorities. Peace.

Aw, come on guys. You're being too harsh on him. He's just like me in the future!

Come on, bud. Teenage years are kinda bummer.
I myself already have enough trouble just talking to strangers. But it's gonna be all right. It's just who I am. 8)

Chill, bud. Whatever happens, happens.

well my date with the girl last night was pretty successfull. we met and took a train to the restraunt, i took some old adivce from previous a previous poster about dinner, it went ver well as we talked and ate. after dinner, we took the train to the city and took sticker photos and had a drink. we talked alot when we went for a drink. well shes going over seas for the holidays but i dont think we can be together and stuff since shes not really my type and she does have a guy she like, we only like brother and sisters -____-

>>565 i know what you mean how lyss fits to that sterotype of girls, cos i know some girls that are like that in the past which tricked me. for an asian, you should know we dont really get along with our parents..... thats prob why i told lyss those personal stuff cos she helped me alot in the past. as i'm typing this post my dad is yelling at me in the background but i cant be fucked listning anymore.

hey everyone
i have decided to end this thread because after a long long think i have finally decided to settle down and just be with lyss, why?! after a long thought i figured out why i couldn;t get over lyss, because i really love her and i have been rejected a few times by her last year. she also managed to bring me out of my shell and change my life not to mention she is the first girl i met managed to do that. so i have decided just go in the natural flow, me and lyss are even closer then before. i know its prob a really stupid idea but thats how serious i am with lyss, if i wasn't i'll prob be like poping a boner and going for another girl. which i dont want to do that anymore cos its just gonna make me look like a player. i'll just wait....just like what i did with Aya cept this time its different. I'm sure i know what to do now so i just wanna thank EVERYONE who posted in this thread even the flamers lol. i'll be lurking around 4ch from now on xD Good luck to everyone and thanks for everything :) really appreciated all your advice on this thread =D

>>568
Woah, dude.
You are actually doing THE RIGHT THING this time.

Whatever man, good luck. I need some too 8)

>>568

i'm amused that you bumped the thread to say that, but good for you!

uh seems like i'm in a trouble atm....

i have a school formal in about 3 months but atm i cant find anyone... i seriously have Noo one to ask = / it'll look sad if i go by my self. lyss alrdy rejected and we're kinda in um.... a time out atm, this other girl i was gonna ask is taken alrdy. i really dont know if i should go now .___.

>>571
Bring your sister.

Excuse me whilst I pop my boner over that image.

>>572 i dont have a sister .___.

>>572 i dont have a sister .___. and no i aint gonna bring my mum either

i thought you were ending this

retards actually mean continue when they say end

>>576
i lol'd.

tis true.

i wouldn't have come back if i didn't have trouble. i'm rather having alot of troubles atm especially with lyss which has been happening for about 2-3 weeks now. none of my friends are able to help me either so thats why i came back to this board otherwise i wouldn't even touch it.

>>580 wtf

>>580 what are you on about? you've been doing that in most threads

what did 580 say?

580 wrote "lame lame" in almost every thread

>>578 a bit late to say this but... what r u troubling?

>>585 this place has died out lol

>>584
Well, in the case of this thread, it was legit.

>>585

need to contact her again i think ^^;

currently i'm doing quite good with this girl who i met a month ago, we talk on the phone everyday and see each other at least 2 times a week, which is mainly at my house lol. but shes a girl whos use to being around a bunch of guys since half of her classes are in a boy school. but she tells me stuff that others dont know about even her friend who shes close to, we get along really well. the problem atm is that shes still has some feelings for her ex bf whos over seas, is there something i can do for her to make her move on? i've done quite a alot for her like i came to see her at midnight when she was really sick, been there when she needed someone to talk to and cheered her up when she was crying.

like my male friend did from me.. and i felt very confused about my feeling now T^T

well.. that was a good job ^^ just need a time to show her that you love her..

but.. what about the japanese girl who you talk to us from the first time?

電車男．．．
This reminds me of that show.