Thread to talk about the actor Tom Hiddleston
What TS was saying with the LWYMMD video, according to one of her official organs, People: http://people.com/music/taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-slams-haters-criticism/
I had to laugh, after the paragraph claiming they were relentlessly mocked about the shirt and I was thinking "that's disingenuous to think that viewers wouldn't see that segment as mocking Tom" - then the next section of the article talks about her addressing her rep for being disingenuous!
>>999 The nannies said the same when he actually wore the shirt, that they were mocking the media and being oh so clever and meta. It didn't apply then and doesn't now.
>>994 This will die down but the possible diss track scuttlebutt will flare up right around TR promo and release time. I wonder if Marvel will give him a pass given the situation and after Thor 2 promo. He shouldn't hide away but maybe let CH and MR do the vast majority, it seems this might be their approach anyway.
Here's the cold hard truth for the nannies on Tumblr and Celebitchy: nearly a year after their breakup (contract ended) their names are still attached, their relationship is still media fodder, he's still being mocked as a result of it.
That's the bottom line the nannies can't deny.
And the DM picks up the story....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4828736/Taylor-Swift-mocks-Look-Do.html
>>2 God, she is unspeakable, and explaining it in People makes it no better. I was wondering when the litany of "people who vaguely criticised Taylor" was going to end. Will we get a video about the person who took the last space in the elevator when she had heavy shopping?
>>7 Best shade of her on tumblr - "immature poop star." Whether deliberate or typo, it sums up her video and general level of classlessness.
>>5 Fans are annoyed that the video mocked TH and K Kardashian's robbery at gunpoint in the tub w a gun.
>>9 Based on the top comments, I'd say it's the opposite. They seem to support it, going so far as to accuse the DM of disliking her for the negative headline.
Again she plays the victim and then the empowered female taking revenge, and it works, not fully, but works. Blurgh.
Quick run down of twitter.
This is from a search I set up last night after the video aired. I blocked her name and Hiddleswift and limited it to only English language tweets. Even then there are 3,000+ this morning.
Sample of the latest 100 or so.
Captcha: Tire...yep.
I'm more appalled at how she's monetizing every single thing, from the collab deals to the merch to how she's using Reputation paraphernalia to generate higher album sales. Ugh talk about the revolting side of naked greedy capitalism. She's basically pulling a pyramid scheme on her fans and they don't see it at all. That's how she makes it to these top selling lists and makes her fanbase appear bloated. Lucky she has her financially cunning mom and dad who are the ones coming up with these schemes while she sits and draws in her burn book surrounded by her cats.
>>13 She's even selling pieces of the wooden floor that the male dancers danced on wearing the TH heart tank tops, with her signature on them! The good news is that dlisted came through!
>>14 W o w...floorboards, wow. Is she gonna market the air from the studio during the shoot next? I really believe her fans are too sense to see what she's doing. It's the exact same formula as her previous albums with amped up visuals (yes that includes all the new work she got done) with just as an aggressive promotion as 1989. There's no new Taylor lol
>>11 She's definitely coming for Tom, he was a mark from the beginning but judging by the general public and media's reaction so far she's gonna end up burning herself more than Tom. She knows it, she knows her act is on shaky ground outside of her staunch base hence all this aggressive monetizing of everything, even LITERAL FLOORBOARDS.
E! Online using Tom's GQ article statement that he chose to wear the I heart TS TS shirt as fair game for TS selling the heart tops. Playing along with TS in the puppy dog article by taking the high road only hurt his rep. Her name must never cross his lips again. Why doesn't he have a crisis PR team? I fear that tv and online series and theater will be the only jobs open to him in the near future unless he has some unknown career strategy planned.
An OP on ONTD called them 'Tom Hiddleston Shirts' and I'm howling. Not the marketing TH wants.
It all looks to me like she doesn't give a fuck anymore. She's on the bridge, she's burning the bridge, she's torpedoing the bridge, she's trying to sell the bridge. Which must make TH nervous. If she DGAF, well then she isn't really thinking about who's on the bridge and what might happen to them.
>>16 You've said this before, Sosorry, but I wonder what good a 'crisis' PR team can do. If, as we suspect, he's somewhat limited in what he can say or do by a contract/non-disclosure, then any PR strategy is equally limited. He certainly can't fight fire with fire (as much as he may wish), she has the victim act down to a science.
If you're only talking about a career PR crisis team, I wonder if that is limited too, for all the reasons NewAnon has mentioned. I fear Tayto and his GG speech (that room would have been filled with directors, producers, studio heads) have taken the rudder out of his hand. There may be nothing that he can do except do the work he has on the books while hoping his agent can secure him auditions, roles, etc. And if tv and theatre are the only jobs on offer, well a job is a job, those grey boots aren't going to buy themselves.
>>16 And here I was thinking earlier that the press coverage of this was fairly neutral towards him (USA Today even called him "poor T. H." For her dragging of him)....
Her mouthpiece People continues selling that this was a job at those who mocked Tom last summer. From what I've seen, there are about as many people who believe that as believe the snogging on the rocks pictures weren't prearranged.
>>15 I agree that her money grabbing around this smacks of getting while she can, because she's about to have a forced break in her career.
Did the Independent like Tom before Tayto? Because they just called him "that poor git" for getting "tangled up with her": http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/taylor-swift-new-video-vmas-made-a-video-everyone-talk-about-it-a7916921.html
I wonder if he'll start getting pity jobs from his directors friends - cameos - until he can rebuild his reputation?
>>18 Its just that I'm just a little sad, from a distance. There probably is no short term PR solution, now. Sosorry to repeat myself. Tom made the most foolish mistake he could make in Hollywood, that is the easiest mistake not to make in the world. He either needs a miracle offer from a director or a producer with whom he's worked before, or a Heath Ledger-like or Colin Farrell-like gradually rebuilding of his film career, brick by brick. Or maybe just do theatre for 2.5 to 3 seasons, and win back the critics in London. My dear.
>>20 The Independent has been favourable of TH since they first wrote about him in 2006.
>>21 I had been thinking a Colin Farrell rebuilding, he who came back from far worse, a sex-tape scandal and some drinking/brawling incidents, but did so before the current celebrity Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/tumblr social media landscape. Tom's best bet is to keep is mouth shut. No comments to anyone, anywhere. Same advice to anyone who gets a mic shoved into their face about Taylor - let her drown in her own immaturity and ridiculousness. Rise above her antics.
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>>21 I didn't mean to suggest that you're babbling on! Far from it. I just meant to say that you've mentioned it before as a possible step or solution for TH but that I didn't know if it was really a viable option given the situation. Certainly no need for apologies. It could be an option, maybe he's done it and we'll see something from him.
I can't say I feel sad but then I'm a hard-hearted bitch. I understand what you're saying however. I'm stuck at secondhand regret and amazement. From the heights of Oscar talk and could-be-Bond (misguided as they were) to the lows of being a figure that seems to attract mockery (July 4, GGs, GQ, 'Tom Hiddleston shirts') and pity (poor old git) in about 15 months. The bottom fell out.
Are we in the seven steps of fan grief?!?
>>21 >>22 My FIL recently gifted me the McCullough John Adams bio and the HBO series based on it. I said a quick NO to the book, which is a doorstop. We've been watching the mini-series and teaching the little one to be a patriot (That's how you throw tea into the harbour! That's how you sign the Declaration of Independence!). Paul Giamatti did this work after his nominations and awards for Cinderella man and other 'big' movie roles. It's genius work, he's genius in it. He then went on to do a mix of movies and tv.
Maybe TH doesn't need to make a comeback per se. Maybe he needs to reevaluate what he wants from his career and take a different path.
>>21, >>23 When crisis PR management could have helped the most was during Tayto and right after the GGs, I think, but Tom probably didn't see the need or was resistant to the idea. I do get the feeling that some intervention was staged before the KSI promo tour because he behaved so differently than his usual exuberan/extra self. And RadHam was a savvy move (especially because the ballot approach to ticketing is now in such contract to TS's money grubbing).
We may not be in one of the seven stages of grief, but Tom may be! Let's see: Shock and denial (check). Pain and guilt (pain, yes; he wasn't acknowledging guilt, at least at the time of the GQ article). Anger and bargaining (anger, yup). Depression/ loneliness/ reflection (the first two, yes; again, don't know how much self-examination he's done). The Upward Turn (he's likely either here or in Reconstruction and Working Through). Acceptance and hope (someday, one hopes soon).
>>24 I really, really like Paul Giamatti's work! But you're spot on that for TH to have that kind of career, he'd have to change his path. PG has never been the square-jawed leading man type that Tom seems to aspire to be.
Here's hoping that working with Sir Ken and being back at RADA, doing Shakespeare, reminds Tom that he used to love theatre and leads him to do more of it!
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>>24 Perhaps he could get a WW1 period romance HBO movie, like Parade's end for Cumberbatch, or like Eddie Redmayne did in Birdsong for the BBC. Everyone would swoon. Easy Emmy nom. With a Shakespearean production on television in the US, he would walk away with a nom for sure.
>>24 Paul Giamatti is brilliant. Nuanced. Even more so than Tom Hardy. John Adams was fantastic. Please seek out and watch Billions if you haven't. I've always gotten the impression our TH has the range that he needs to dig as deep and as broad as his peers who have Oscar noms and wins (BC, ER, THardy). But his ego made him decide to take a narrow path into a tight leading man box that's so limiting and shallow. Paul Giamatti career is a fantastic example. The late Philip Seymour Hoffman.
I love Paul Giametti. Thought he was so good in Billions.
Either lead in that series would have been a great coup for TH - I've said before that he would be lucky to have made the tv choices that Damian Lewis made (Band of Brothers, Homeland etc).
Slightly OT (though slightly not) I have also always loved Rufus Sewell. He was in some ways the TH of his generation - unbelievably beautiful and therefore typecast in a lot of frock coat roles on tv and in movies. He never became a big star and I never understood why, but he has since broken out of the costume drama mould and been in some really interesting stuff (The Man in the High Castle for example). He's also had a very highly regarded theatrical career thoroughout (he got his big break playing Septimus in Tom
Stoppard's Arcadia) - though I have to say in defence to him as prior crush that he is a far, far better actor than TH. I've seen him on stage several times.
>>30 Rufus Sewell's name didn't ring a bell for me, but as soon as I googled him and saw his picture -- he is so good in Victoria! Yes, it's a frock coat, but a very classy one. (Now I have many more things to add to my to-watch list....)
>>30, >>30 And interestingly enough, he says "it was always films I wanted to do — but I've kind of changed my mind ... I prefer theater now to film, certainly, because I get much better roles." TH should pay attention! http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511886261/cast-as-brooding-leads-rufus-sewell-says-his-real-talent-is-comedy
Miss TS has just labelled TH as a past"high profile fling", and claims that she felt like her personal life was spinning out of control with him. Hmm...then she should stop calling the paps and fauxmaning for PR, in general. What a crock!
http://people.com/music/taylor-swift-felt-personal-life-out-of-control/
>>33 LOL! Why meet the parents if it was just a fling? Walks on the beach with the family but it was just a fling lol
My flings don't even know if I have a family much less meet them or hang out with them.
And what was all that gushy bogus shit Tom was saying about her to Josh and Taffy? Lol! A fling! HA!
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2013/mar/30/rufus-sewell-almost-famous
Here is a nice interview with Sewell from 2013, talking among other things about how he was gorgeous and curly haired and had razor sharp cheekbones, won an Olivier for Stoppard's Rock and Roll, and never made the big time. (sound familiar?!!)
I find it hard to imagine TH talking about himself and his career with such humour and objectivity ("as the hair gets thinner, the waist gets thicker"). I've always had a lot of time for RS as a person - he's got his head screwed on and seems to see life with a wickedly clear eye. He hasn't had the chances TH has had but he has made the best of what he has been given.
By the way, I just googled to see what he's been up to since The Man in The High Castle and it turns out he played Alexander Hamilton in the John Adams miniseries that Anon. mentioned. So there you are - you can watch Paul Giametti and Rufus Sewell in the same frame while pondering TH's bad career choices! One for my watch list, definitely.
>>33, >>34, >>35 Her only flings last summer were of Tom to the wolves, and general BS to the public. Doesn't a "fling" generally involve sex, specifically hot and frequent sex? The two of them projected about as much heat as a pair of flounder fillets!
That label is so silly that so far none of the rags or gossip sites have pounced on it.
>>36 Sewell has the advantage over Tom of about 15 years' worth of experience to give him that clearer perspective. I hope Tom will handle the vicissitudes of his career and challenges of aging in public so gracefully.
There were a couple of RadHam-related tweets today, one from a staff member saying they did the photo shoot (but she doesn't know when the pix will be released). The other was from the agent of one of the supporting actors saying that they were seeing the show tonight. So RADA is having some invited audiences for the dress rehearsals. (From the #radahamlet tag.)
>>38 I can't wait to see how Hamlet turns out! Hopefully a reviewer won tickets, and we get a balanced and fair review, and not just swooners. Hollywoodlife is trolling Tom to deny to gossipcop. HL claims that Tom thinks being in the video is great because now he is a part of legendary music history...sure Jan. Tom is probably getting his mind and body prepped for Hamlet by running up and down the stairs, backstage at the theater : )
##39 A different rag and source for TH's reaction to her video: "he feels like an idiot for going anywhere near her" - http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/taylor-swift-feuds-140672
Looking forward to anything we hear about RadHam!
>>40 Is this rag friendly to Luke or anti-Taylor in general? Even though it's cool to say out loud that he's made a mistake, that's a hell of a dig at her.
>>38 The fling statement she made: if I'm not mistaken this is the first time she's said anything remotely referential to sex.
>>39 And here's the Gossip Cop response to that HL story. Dancing around the " the shirt was a joke" content by referring back to the GQ article. They're more righteously announced by the rag making up a source. https://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-reaction-taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-video-made-up/
Tonight's RadHam final dress had people from the industry/ supporters of the RADA campaign in attendance. So far, a couple of favorable tweets from some actors (see the #radahamlet tag).
>>41 It was the one plugging that the Tayto twins were talking marriage, so not anti-Taylor or pro-Luke/Tom's PR. Yeah, having an "industry source" quoted as saying that "Now he sees her as a desperate attention-seeker” could rebound on Tom. Be interesting to see if Gossip Cop addresses it.
The reviews are coming in from Thursday night's dress rehersal and they're good:
@StephenGreif : Terrificly vibrant , Pacey production of Hamlet at RADA, directed by Ken Branagh with Tom Hiddleston and great company in every dept. Bravo.
@JillWinternitz : Strikingly impactful and beautifully realised, @twhiddleston is extraordinary as Hamlet. Congrats all! @RADA_London @KBTCLive #radahamlet 💀
I am glad he had good "reviews".
Interesting though that they have managed to get the theatrical great and good in for free tickets somehow (though no space for critics, strangely!!). I had wondered whether/how they would do that. The dress rehearsal is the answer. Looks like it was a gala evening with canapés laid on. Not really a true dress rehearsal where the gravedigger finds someone left the skull backstage. It's effectively free ticket night by another name and the real dress rehearsal was the night before.
>>47 It might have been iwith paid tickets, though, for existing or potential RADA donors. They could even have charged extra for the tickets, especially if the attendees were ablle to meet the cast and Sir Ken. But yes, it' seems they shut out the critics.
>>47, >>48 Found this quote on the crazy clever one from the FB post of someone who attended last night - sounds like a donor event indeed: "FB: Oh wow! What an evening I've had. [...] Thank you Derek Smith for inviting me to a wonderful evening and a fantastic production of Hamlet. The evening started with champagne and nibbles and short talks in the building that used to be the Drill Hall. Then we all trouped across to RADA and another drink and thenthe play. The after party with deserts back at Drill Hall with members of the cast amidst drinks and exciting sweet concoctions. Chatted with Kenneth Branagh and Tom Hiddleston."
I'm not willing to call a tweet which employs a skull emoji a 'review.' And the phrase 'beautifully realized' is as hackneyed as they come.
I don't doubt it's very good, and I don't doubt he's very good in it. It's breadbasket for both KB and TH, and tailor made for their respective talents. That was never the issue. The issue, at least for me, was the calculated nature of this in terms of his re-creding process. The evening of nibbles, champagne and chats with the talent but minus actual professional critics does nothing to address that issue.
Alas, poor Yorick! I still find this dodgy.
>>49 How many of these have come out? Are the interwebs flooded with praise, I.e., was RADA's champagne budget put to good use?
That's why I called it a "review" and not a review.
I think in my last post I was trying to articulate that the non dress rehearsal dress rehearsal made it sound more rather than less calculated.
The people who tweeted included (a) a plus one of the actor Derek Smith; (b) a (recent?) graduate of RADA who is in the business in the US and has a blue Twitter tick, but of whom I have never heard; and (c) the agent of one of the actors. Colour me cynical but I don't feel that these are people who would donate £100,000, or even £10,000 to the cause.
It may have been dressed up as a "donor" event but I still think that the reality was that this was a way of getting industry types and famous people into the auditorium without them having to enter the ballot. Apparently David Attenborough was there - as brother of the late Dickie - and they were hardly going to make him enter the ballot, were they?? But they want to have their cake and eat it. No critics, no big audience, but maximum coverage.
All very useful for anyone who wants to be seen by the aforementioned industry types (which includes the newbies as well as TH). But not a donor event. If they wanted to make srious money from that evening and publicise the cause to the 1% they could have sold tickets to the highest bidder.
"very lucky to see a dress run of #radahamlet this week. a really strong company, clear and immediate storytelling. thank you! @RADA_London"
plus the one Heynon cited at >>49
"Watching opening night of Hamlet, played by Tom Hiddleston, at rada, with David Attenborough on the opposite front row. One to tick off the bucket list I didn't know I had"
impactful and beautifully realised cliche person/vibrant and pacey cliche person/coming all the way from America person
I think that is basically it so far.
So basically this show is for new RADA students to get noticed by industry types; basically an audition. And TH to get his "serious actor" cred back more then the "charity" itself. With "reviews" from probably Kenneth's theater friends and a sprinkle of TH stans.
Yep. Total emergency serious actor status plan. TH is extremely lucky he has Branagh on his side. If it was any other actor of a lower station I.e. not posh, it would take years to get their former reputation back. TH is so transparent.
Its interesting that they have these rich parties for the "charity". Working clas students in less prestigious schools who don't have that clout really have an insurmountable mountain to climb to the top when the competition have vast resources they never have.
A few interesting and not wholly intentional revelations in this interview with a RADA bod: https://amp.theguardian.com/film/2017/sep/01/tom-hiddleston-plays-hamlet-london-ticket
I noticed:
(1) it's avowedly not about making as much money as possible . (Apparently it's about the "art")
(2) KB and TH had talked of a project for years but it was mysteriously only recently that their schedules coincided. One of you having no work will do that.
Also:
No critics so as to maximise revenue (even though it is not all about the money!)
It's the "grief Hamlet" (I bet!)
PS re timing. Although KB became president of RADA 18 months ago, the interviewee deliberately elides when Branagh actually called to say he wanted to direct TH in the school play. It is not said that KB suggested this 18 months ago.
>>51 Haven't found any new tweets about the final dress/real opening night/whatever the heck that was. It's possible, of course, that many of those attending aren't much for social media. (The few who did tweet weren't generally exactly household names!)
Good catch on the vagueness in the Guardian article about exactly when KB proposed this to RADA. The production is already having one of its intended effects, it seems - to get the non-tabloid UK press to stop ridiculing Tom.
We should start to see feedback from the paying audience in about 5 hours.
>>50 - >>56 Oh there's a whole lot of let's stand in a circle and scratch each others' backs communal benefitting going on here!
No it doesn't. Article says Branagh became President 18 months ago. Article also says that Kemp recalls talking to Branagh about directing a show, but Kemp does not say when that conversation took place. Could have been immediately after Branagh became President or could have been 3 months ago.
Kemp rang back a week after that conversation and proposed doing a show with TH. That still does not tell us when the initial conversation took place.
>>59 Sorry, "Branagh rang Kemp back a week after...etc"
From the Guardian's twitter account, the Saturday edition - HiddleHam gets front page, complete with the pictures referred to in >>38
https://twitter
.com/guardian/status/903723011353841664
Print is too small to read.
It's a good pic. Is the ripped t shirt Hamlet's rended black garment or Tom's normal rehearsal gear?
The text says something about the production having started yesterday (i.e. today) and that tickets are sold out. It suggests there is an article inside as there is an arrow pointing to a 5 in a circle. Possibly the article linked to above?
Front page of the Telegraph: https://lolawashere.tumblr.com/post/164873575827/front-page-of-tomorrows-telegraph-newspaper
Story inside.
Someone tweeted that Hamlet is wearing black jeans, black coat, black Calvin Klein pants (he's British so he means underpants) and THE GREY BOOTS!!!!
>>63 So his clothes have melded to his body. Ditto with the shoes. Great. :(
>>58 The syntax is vague. Anon is correct. Had it read 'Branagh became president of Rada about 18 months ago and Kemp recalled talking with him then about directing a show' the timing would be more concrete. As it reads now, it isn't.
>>63 This isn't the grief Hamlet, it's the Johnny Cash Hamlet! Oh no, he's going to bring out the guitar and sing about missing his daddy.
>>62 The caption identifies Tom and his costar, Caroline Martin. I saw the link too, Anon but I'm not sure that it links to the article in >>55, since that link is for Friday's article, but the photo is for Saturday. Dunno.
Clever has posted a number of tweets, including the one in >>63 about the grey boots. One, Jashalee, says that TH is slightly better than Cumber but doesn't come close to Andew Scott's Hamlet. Ouch.
@MatthewLumby's twitter is a good read, a lot of tweets in a long Hamlet thread. He's the one who commented on the boots.
>>63 Hmm, tumblr link has been deleted for the Telegraph cover. Here it is on Twitter:
https://twitter
.com/ajsaladine/status/903736041793871879
Many other tweets together. TH sings and plays piano at the beginning:
https://always-hiddleston.tumblr.com/post/164874727352/insanely-smart
The Guardian critic got a ticket - https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2017/sep/02/hamlet-review-lucky-few-see-tom-hiddleston-combine-sweet-sadness-with-incandescent-fury
>>71 And the Times critic saw it as well:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/theatre-review-hamlet-at-the-rada-jerwood-vanbrugh-theatre-tom-hiddleston-kenneth-branagh-ddlqnzr8l
I've used up my Times views for the week, so please jump in if there's anything significant said.
So they either saw it at last night's event, or....
>>62, >>70 The Guardian review mentions white windows on the set, so this may have been from the production shots,
>>72 So the Times review said they got their ticket thru the ballot like everyone else. IF that's true, maybe the Times had every employee submit a ballot in order to produce a winner who could then "gift" the tix to the critic.
More audience reviews (interviewed after the show), including one who didn't think TH was great: https://www.yahoo.com/style/tom-hiddleston-apos-apos-mesmerising-002707294.html
I have a subscription:
★★★★☆
This production of Shakespeare’s great play stars Tom Hiddleston and so it was dubbed, immediately, a HiddleHamlet. The hype has been huge. You cannot buy a ticket for love nor money to see the super-villain star of Thor in the role, as every one of them for the three-week run were allocated by ballot (proceeds go to Rada). Critics were not given tickets and The Times won its ticket via the ballot like everyone else.
It’s a terrific production. Sir Kenneth Branagh directs with style but then he’s had a while to think it over. Apparently he first floated the idea of doing Hamlet with Hiddleston a decade ago when he saw him in Othello. Since then the doomed Dane has become the role du jour for thrusting young actors who want to be taken seriously: David Tennant; Benedict Cumberbatch; Andrew Scott, whose pause-filled Hamlet is just finishing in the West End.
And now, Hiddleston. He is a fine Prince from the get-go, when we see him sitting on a stage bare but for a piano, picking out the notes, singing a lament for his father (though, it must be said, he can’t sing). He makes the role completely his own, emotional, magnetic, canny, often frolicsome. The words seem natural, effortless. He bounds around the stage and his duelling is fierce (his swordplay, unlike his musicianship, is expert).
This is a stripped-down version, with modern dress, set in present-day Denmark. Branagh introduces as much mirth as it can take: as Hamlet begins to go mad, he takes to wearing hoodies, painting his face and reading a book titled Reasons to Stay Alive. There are tinges of farce, with doors a-slamming. There is also melodrama and, towards the end, way too many dark and brooding Scandi noir skies.
This is a small (160-seat) theatre and the audience surrounds the stage on three sides so it’s hard to hide a mistake. The words are wonderfully clear throughout and Branagh has had some fun with the casting, having placed more women in various roles: Guildenstern has become Guildastern and Rosencrantz is now a Rosa.
It’s three hours long and flows well, helped by James Cotterill’s sparse set (it’s amazing what you can do with a sofa and a desk). Not all performances sing but Nicholas Farrell is a thunderous ghost and Sean Foley an engaging Polonius. But it is Hiddleston who holds the eye and our imagination. The only shame is that so few will see his HiddleHamlet."
Given that 75% of the audience appears to be female I suppose casting women as Horatio, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern was appropriate!
The reviews have reminded me that Kenneth Branagh is a fine director. I am disappointed that this won't see the light of day to any meaningful number of people. It would be well worth it even with another actor in the lead.
The Telegraph's review: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/theatre/what-to-see/tom-hiddleston-hamlet-supremely-self-assured-prince-radas/amp/
More detailed than the first two. But like them, barely reviewing any performance other than TH's.
Pictures from the program: twitter,com/disneycastle88/status/903784267544657922/photo/2
Nice of RADA to open this on a US holiday weekend when one can make time to pay attention to this!
OK, last one. About the two recent RADA grads in the show and more about the lottery reasoning, with some quiet dissing of hardcore fans: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-daily-telegraph/20170902/281479276557276
>>82 It is good that some of the less well known actors got a look in.
As to the "certain people will be on the internet" diss - well, I am not so sure that the audience is significantly less composed of uber fans by having the ballot.
The Donmar audience for Coriolanus was not noticeably composed of stans (I didn't see anyone taking a pic, even in the curtain call). The audience was as it usually is - people old and rich enough to be on the advance mailing list for £350 a year, plus their kids/other halves/random mates (me!).
There seemed to be more fans at the Cumby Hamlet - but the Barbican is so huge that there was space for a lot of non fan theatregoers. Again the Barbican has an advance mailing list (a lot cheaper than the Donmar) which allows committed theatregoers to get a look in ahead of fans.
The Nuffield talk was I'd say 99% committed fans - probably because it was a one off with (somewhat) limited numbers (large auditorium). Even so it didn't sell out for about 3 days so I would say that everyone who really wanted to go did.
Looking at the Telegraph pic of the punters, and looking at how many of the tumblr regulars have tickets, I would say they are much more like the Nuffield audience and much less like the Donmar. I actually think that having a ballot and limited numbers made it more and not less of a fandom event. It attracts a different sort of obsessed fan - the kind that will set up 15 email addresses and/or ask every family member they know to enter and/or peddle their ass on Twitter to get a plus one.
By the way, as career rehabilitation it seems to be working like a dream. It feels
like there is wall to wall coverage of him and (to a lesser degree) the production in the broadsheet press. Last week they were full of TS summer fluff broadsheet articles. They have all vanished. Nobody's mentioned TS in any article or review I've seen (I wouldn't put British journalists past this). Juvenile diss track with indifferent reviews has been completely eclipsed by genuine artistic endeavour with great reviews. Hats off the KB and TH for that.
>>84 Agreed, though I did see a couple of non-review articles this AM that spent more time on Tayto and the tshirt than on Hamlet (Metro UK was one, I think the DM was another.)
>>85 The DM doesn't surprise me. I suspect that will be how he is represented from now until he does something else that enables the DM to pigeonhole him. Before TS it was revealing his bum in "saucy scenes" on tv.
However I felt TH was really in the career doodoo when he was on the front page of the Telegraph because of Tayto, or being the subject of snarky articles in the guardian. He must be well pleased that he is on the front page of both because of his new project.
>>86 This is working out well for him. Plus the good reviews are being magnified on social media, and will probably have extra "weight" with whomever because there will be so few reviews.
Even the BBC had to do a summary of audience opinions from Twitter since their critic didn't get into the first show. I did think the Times review sounded a little snarky, perhaps as a result of the balloting. Is that their critc's usual style?
The Guardian's 4 stars were more than they gave either of the other recent productions of Hamlet. Not that it's a contest, but that must be satisfying for all involved!
Sounds like this move is working out favorably for him. Especially in light of how juvenile Taylor currently looks. Actions speak louder than words, and he's starting to look the opposite of what she's trying to frame him as. Combined with the fact his play began it's run smack dab during the current film festival circuit of Venice and Telluride, he picked a good time to get noticed again.
I'm hoping this puts him back in consideration for some good roles. And that he doesn't ruin his second chance by limiting himself to just lead roles in just big studio movies.
And no more fauxmances. I never thought I would long for the days of "nothing to write home about", but man, if you are seeing someone, especially someone famous, be discreet.
Also please please no more Yours Truly. And can the grey boots be retired now that they have had their moment of fame?!!!
>>82 In the pressreader article, the picture of the couple - is that Robert Redford plus one? If so, that couldn't have been at the play; there is no press area. Just curious.
>>80 Great review: "And as for the main event, Hiddleston? His Hamlet is proactive, masculine, edgy to the point of aggression - and definitely, absolutely sane. His madness is a ruse, through and through. Having decided to “be mad by craft”, he appears wrapped in the flag of Denmark with his face painted in the national colours, like a hardcore football fan."
Like all of you have been saying today, it's a testament to KB and TH that they've pushed away all the negative press of the past year (I'd forgot about the bum comments since TS pushed those away).
I must be in crappy tumblr circles - only 3 of the people I follow got tickets.
>>89 Amen! But I'm not holding my breath on the Yours Truly part. She's everywhere...everywhere...👀
He's not out of the woods yet. Remember, TS album releases a few days after Thor Ragnarok's release.
I wonder if he'll skip on promoting Thor and leave it up to Hemsworth and Ruffalo since the film is centered on them rather then Loki.
>>88 I was a bit concerned earlier this week that Taytay's video dig would spill over into the Hamlet coverage, but it turned out that the timing helped. You couldn't make up more of a contrast between his public life and hers at the moment!
>>89 Is there a museum that would be an appropriate home for the grey boots? For example, Judy Garland's ruby slippers are in the Smithsonian....
>>90 That picture must belong with another article - depending on how I size the window, it doesn't even show up with the Hamlet text.
>>89, >>91 I agree that we likely haven't seen the last of Yours Truly. After all, the costumes for Hamlet show how Tom dresses when he has to fend for himself.
>>90 I haven't seen that many of the tumblrites got tickets. (Maybe, unlike the Guardian and the Times critics, they didn't have multiple ballots submitted for them!)
>>92 And I gather than in the past, TS has generally released a second single before the album drops. So depending on its topic, their "fling" could pop up again. If so, Marvel might be smart to use him for promo mostly in Asia, where (based on the KSI promo tour) no one will ask him questions about her.
From today's Times:
A small group of lottery winners — some from as far away as America and Canada — gathered on a quiet back street in central London yesterday.
They had all been through a ballot for the chance to buy the most sought-after theatre tickets in the capital — and were off to see Tom Hiddleston play Hamlet.
The demand was always going to be huge, so the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art (Rada) chose the smallest venue it could think of.
The Jerwood Vanburgh — Rada’s in-house theatre — in Bloomsbury seats just 160, and the run lasts a paltry three weeks. When Benedict Cumberbatch played the same role in London in 2015, about 250,000 saw him. Only a fraction of that number will have the privilege of watching the Kenneth Branagh production. Tickets to this one are strictly for the few, not the many.
It is galling for those who missed out, because the critics have described Hiddleston as “mesmerising” and combining “sweet sadness with incandescent fury”.
However, those who have been lucky are happy. Emily Friedman, 36, teaches English literature at Auburn University in Alabama. During a two-month research trip to the UK, she entered the ballot and won. “It’s a unique experience to see this Hamlet in such a small venue. It is so different to experience it this way,” she said.
As in every ballot, not everyone can be a winner. Social media have been full of complaints from the unfortunates who did not get the chance to buy a ticket.
One disgruntled fan wrote: “Am I ever gonna watch Hamlet?! I Missed Benedict Cumberbatch’s. And Andrew Scott’s. And now Tom Hiddleston. I hate my life.”
In which case they will not be pleased to hear that there were empty seats on the opening night.
“Just a handful,” said Karen O’Donnell, a research fellow at Durham University who lives in Salisbury. “I imagine it was people not able to get there. How awful for them.”
For Friedman, it was certainly not Branagh that was the attraction. “I remember lying on the floor in Houston watching one of his films,” she said. “I hope he’s learnt something about editing since then.” Most of us will never get to find out.
>>95 Diving fully into the snark by the 3rd sentence, I see. Way to go, Sunday Times.
They should have critics on the wait list for the empty seats! (joking)
On another note, maybe wearing The Boots some sort of snake cleansing ritual he's going through and he'll burn them in a bonfire in his backyard when it's all over, never to be worn again.
>>95 I get the impression that the Times isn't too happy about having to cover news of this production!
From an audience member's review, we now know that there's dancing (Hamlet R & G) -- wonder whose idea that was? https://nauticulture.com/2017/09/02/my-hamlet/
Oh Lordy lordy lord.
Taylor's second single has just dropped and it seems to be about her current bf (aka bravest millenial alive) . No specific disses other than references to exes who "tried to hard" and how she's forgotten their names.
I puttered around the reviews and 'reviews' while feeding the young master his continental breakfast.
They are roughly what everyone expected. It was never going to crash and burn like Springtime for Hitler was meant to! Excellent director, excellent lead, some pretty good material - that's going to work out performance wise. What was important for TH, I suspect, was the extra-performance bit (it hasn't just been about the Work for a good while now). That seems to have worked out too: front covers, good reviews, interest (from fans and the media), no mention of her. I don't know if this is going to translate into instant HW offers or Oscar worthy scripts, but it's a start. I half wonder if he's trying to re-do 2008-2011 in brief: Hamlet is his Othello and T:R will be his Thor 1, and he'll be off to the races like Tayto never happened. Clever if it works and worth a try.
>>97 Personally I like my Shakespeare traditional so this sounds a little gimmicky to me: Danish football fan, reading self-help manuals, gender bending (yes, I know, that's a demerit off my feminist card!), piano playing and dancing.
Someone with more Shakespeare and literary taste/knowledge than myself would call those choices 'interpretative progress,' but being a backwater rube, I tend to call them hokum. Edit it well, stage it well, perform it well - don't try to be different.
>>98 Well, he did try too hard. And if she needs to refresh her memory as to his name, she can just check the contract - like with all the others.
I've decided that her boyfriends fall into two categories: gay or famwhore. I think the bravest millennial, as you hilariously call him, falls into the former.
Welcome, Anonanonnynonny! I think I typed that correctly.
A fan pic of Tom arriving at the theatre for a rehearsal.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BYkmGXYFXYr/?taken-by=tomhiddleston_daily
Does anyone else think that Taylor Swift was mad because Tom Hiddleston is receiving excellent reviews in the press and social media (front pages and articles praising HIS WORK) and that's why she decided to drop her second single? She wanted to steal the spotlight because she doesn't want him to succeed and rebuild his good reputation?
>>102 So he did break down and decide to use a car after all. Probably a good idea for the run of the show since fangirls know exactly where and when to find him. Supposedly (per tumblr) a handful waited outside RADA for hours, tweeted RADA to ask if he could come out to see them, and disappointly tweeted him because he "just left." Sigh.
>>100 You forgot the condoms!
This is one reason I really hope they make this production more widely available (though I doubt they'll bother to). I suspect some of these "update" choices might make more sense when seen in context (whereas some would still just be shitck). For example, my eyes rolled when I saw the mention of face painting. But when a subsequent review said that Hamlet was wrapped in a Danish flag at that point and he was painted like a soccer fan, it worked a little better for me as Hamlet making a political point or mocking his uncle. Still not precisely subtle, but might fit a bit better.
I also wonder if some bits were meant to make the play more accessible to audience members without much exposure to Shakespeare. The first use of the condoms, for example, might make more sense of Laetes' warnings about Hamlet to his Ophelia than musty warnings about her virtue.
It occurred to me that the piano/singing at the start might have been to get any applause for Tom out of the way rather than have it interrupt the flow later.
Genderswitching R & G is not unusual, but changing Hamlet's confidant to a woman looks (from the production photo) as though it could change that dynamic a lot. I hope some subsequent review/"review" talks more about that.
The dancing, though - why? Especially when' KB had to make cuts to get it down to 2:45.
Tom taking a solo curtain call. Nice pic! http://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/164938958985/twhnewscom-on-instagram-repostsave-from
>>103 I do, because the second single probably wasn't slated to drop until October. The bad reviews from all over and Hurricane Harvey took the wind out of the sails on the first single.
I think there is so much Shakespeare performed in the U.K. that the "straight up" traditional approach has fallen from fashion. You see it more here in the comedies (think: Merry Wives of Windsor) or at the Swan in Stratford when they are performing lesser known plays of Shakespeare's contemporaries (and sometimes not then). The best productions I have seen are those which are neither wholly traditional nor wholly contemporary, an approach which I think works well with the Histories, which just don't feel right without a nod to their period of writing and/or the period when the events take place. With plays like Hamlet I am more relaxed because they aren't wedded to a particular time, or place really, references to Denmark notwithstanding. I wouldn't expect a trad Hamlet here, not least because of how many other Hamlets there are this season alone.
That said, I still haven't recovered from the awful staging of the Cumberbatch Hamlet. I was ok with the Romanoff Winter Palace theme in the first half but the second half appeared to be staged on a slag heap. I think this was meant to be post-revolutionary Russia, but it looked shit, must have been terrible to act on a steep slope and had no textual justification whatsoever.
PS my husband read the reviews saying that Branagh created "an identifiably Danish" setting and snorted, "What? Are they all eating open sandwiches?" You can't please everyone!!
>>100, >>108 I'm getting the feeling that KB just let Tom do whatever he wanted to in the "mad" scenes. From a fan "review" (warning - some gushing involved):
'He plays piano and sings- I cried He dances around to a beats pill He dry humps a couch A Scottish and Irish accent appear Leather and swords holy christ the best stage fight I’ve ever seen He looked right at me twice like I can’t even recover from it. There were moments where every single person was silent and it was because of Tom. It was just so amazing.' (A beats pill?!) (Via http://insanely-smart.tumblr , com/post/164940278613/putting-these-quick-hamlet-notes-from)
>>103 TS petty and calculating - never! ;) The DM tells me that she did wait a whole day so as not to drop it on her best friend's wedding. I was surprised.
>>109 My MIL asked me what we were doing for his 1st. It's still a few months off but I gulped nonetheless. He's going to be a year old!! It's especially sobering as I'm due back full-time at work then.
>>110 I always eyeroll at the 'he looked RIGHT AT ME' parts of similar encounters. These are people who have never stood on a stage where the audience is in darkness and the performers/speakers in a spotlight.
>>110 This is exactly the sort of Shakespeare I don't like.
>>110 And here is the piddling puppy we all know. Apparently he was saving it up for the stage, hence the low-key Kong and SDCC TH.
The second song is about Karlie Kloss, who she did go on a beach vacation with. And Joe is the public front since he is tall, has blonde hair and blue eyes, and is younger than TS as well. If you put Karlie's hair on Joe, they are identical! I kid you not.
>>111 TS only cares about Taylor world. If she could get more buzz/controversy from dropping the second single near the opening of Hamlet because the numbers of the first single dropped after one day and do not compare with the numbers of Adele and Ed Sheeran whose numbers grew and grew, and she is being bashed by the critics, plus Hurrcaine Harvey stole her steam, then she will. The DM has now combined the Tom Hamlet article with TS's video and the pic with she and the effeminate male dancers wearing the Tshirts and high heels. They even bring up the faux Bond rumours, and mistakenly claim Tom was in Sherlock! Ridiculous.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4845700/amp/Tom-Hiddleston-looks-brooding-makes-Hamlet-debut.html
A beats pill? Accents? You are so right, that is TH all over! (That video JVR put on his Instagram of TH playing with a beats pill, which I bet he had never seen before JVR showed him one; that GQ shoot where he did all the accents). Not sure if I would have liked it - it would either have been brilliant or terrible.
BTW Mark Shenton, who reviews for the Stage, has expressed surprise that critics for the Times, Telegraph and Guardian all got tickets for the first night. The Guardian rather sententiously says at the bottom of the Billington review that the tickets were "obtained by the Guardian through the ballot." I'd have thought that was both true and misleading: yes, obtained through the ballot, but achieved by making every person in the office enter and promise to take Billington if they got a ticket.
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Article on "growing pressure" for RADA to broadcast or record the show for wider availability: https://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/theatre/tom-hiddleston-in-hamlet-rada-under-growing-pressure-to-broadcast-production-to-a-wider-audience-a3626366.html?amp
The writer was contacting people on twitter to interview about this, including >>113 Mark Sherman of The Stage. That note from the Guardian wasn't there originally. The TImes' critic explained on twitter that she'd asked friends to apply too. And the theory on tumblr is that the third paper hired a freelancer, who must have come to them with a proposal after getting a ticket, because there's nothing online that he or she has reviewed previously. RADA might have done better to select a limited press pool of people to review it, because this stirred up the complaints about the limited availability.
>>111 And she forgot that Tom is nearsighted, so even without light in his eyes it's unlikely that he sees more than a blur! That said, the audience is really close - see this shot from before the show: https://mobile.twitter//com/thaisinhaa013/status/904489724831813632/photo/1
>>115 No plans to extend because of Hiddleston's Hollywood schedule? Do they know something we don't, or is that a reference to Thor 3 promo?
The reality is that this was always intended to be a short and "exclusive" run, for all the laudable and not so laudable reasons we have discussed on here.
NT Live has filmed in all sorts of small venues and I bet they bring their equipment for free. I don't buy that it would reduce RADA's profit from the venture.
I totally agree that they should have allowed a limited press pool - if it was that big a deal about losing £950 to the cause (10x£95 tickets) then (1) they could have said, it is charity so can we ask you to pay? or (2) invited a limited number to the "dress rehearsal" instead of a few of the plus ones who were tweeting about it.
>>112 I hope my wink indicated that I do believe her possible of what Xanon suggested (even if I don't think it the case in this instance). But don't mention Poor Joe in a wig; he's got a tough enough row to hoe without giving TS ideas.
>>113 He has previous with a beats pill? I had to look it up myself.
>>115 Hmmm. Will they give it a wider showing now that it's cleared the first hurdle of reviewers who balloted in? Surely TH will want a recording so he can post it in his stead when he can't attend a wedding.
Praise for Tom's performance, and his self contained approach to the whole music video fiasco after dumping out his "heart" to GQ magazine. Most of the comments debate whether or not the commentators are interested in another Hamlet.
>>117, >>118 I suspect the HW schedule affecting this would be KB's rather than TH's (unless the latter happens to be in A4, and even then I think something could be worked out with Marvel). And T:R has plenty of other name actors for promo.
From the theatre photo I linked to above, I think NTL might be challenged to film this live as it's currently set up. Certainly without distracting the audience, and possibly not even having room for cameras on the main level. But from what I've read about that theatre, it has at least some flexibility in configuration (for example, it can seat 180, not the 160 available for this show with the thrust stage). If they really wanted to film this, I'd think they could do something creative with a few extra performances with some seating judiciously removed. So there's likely some other reasoning involved.
>>120 the article definitely says "Hiddleston's HW schedule"....
I am not sure whether they record NT Live with audiences. I think possibly not - having seen stills from the Donmar production of Coriolanus there are no audience members visible, but they would definitely be in the frame if they had been there as it is such as small theatre (though I haven't seen an NT live so I stand to be corrected).
Apparently Tom and Chris Hemsworth were both guests at former Mean Girls and "Masters of Sex" actress, Lizzy Caplan's, wedding to UK producer Tom Riley on the Amalfi Coast on Sunday. Are there no Sunday matinees of Hamlet? Lucky mister. Tom's stylist, Ilaria Urbinati was there as well, and she posted pics of Ravello on her Instagram.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/lizzy-caplan-marries-tom-riley-w501107
https://www.instagram.com/ilariaurbinati/
>>122 No, no Sunday matinees, or eves for that matter. The show is playing Mondays - Saturdays, with a matinee only on Sats. And they're skipping a mid-week night each week. So it's only 6 performances a week.
>>121 I was just speculating (unclearly!) that despite what the reporter was told or may have assumed, we know that KB has commitments soon that he can't break but we don't know the same for sure about Tom.
>>121 Also I was assuming that the NT Lives are filmed with an audience. Partly because of their name, and partly because I've seen a clip of the very start of the Coriolanus broadcast, which showed the audience. Though that could have been edited in. If this Hamlet were filmed at RADA as staged, the audience is so very close that filming would likely show if the seats were empty. But I haven't seen any of those broadcasts either.
>>122>>123 Apparently Chris Hemsworth was spotted in Byron Bay in Australia with his family on Sunday, so he wasn't at the wedding. So Tom probably wasn't there either. I was thinking that Tom had to be pretty confident in his performance skills and his recuperation abilityto jet off to Italy for a vacay middle of his Hamlet run. US magazine must just have wanted the clicks. Silly me.
NT Live is just that Live. I looked at my copy of Coriolanus and there are audience members present. Whether that could logistically happen in the Rada theatre, I don't know. More importantly, I don't think it will happen. That would seem to undermine everything they've said about the ballot system and their use of it, not to mention undermining the actual process of the system itself.
>>126 I don't think that doing an NT Live would necessarily undermine what they said about the ballot system, at least what they said at first - it was supposed to be about fairness in getting tickets. And while there doubtless would be people who got tickets complaining that they had to go through that whole process, and pay X to go to London and Y to see the play when others could just go to an NT Live showing, I think there would be many, many others happy to have an expanded opportunity to see it. (Not to mention that those who saw it live, saw it live and were mere meters away from the performers!)
Doing NT Live might somewhat contradict the recent quote from the head of RADA who talked about it being about the art, not about making as much money off it as they could. But that statement itself undermined how the production was originally presented as a fundraiser.... But all that said, I doubt they can do one or more NTLs at this point, because they would have had to announce them by now to get audiences for them.
Which leads back to our suspicions that this was as much about showcasing Tom as anything else. Witness this excerpt from a fan who saw it yesterday: "There are so many great moments in there, I still need to wrap my head around them all… Has anyone mentioned that he gets to dance? Suddenly, smack in the middle of Hamlet, there is Tom with his famous moves :) I loved that! And there’s a scene where he’s got warrior make up on and walks around wearing the Danish flag as a cape. Very punk rock. And another where his head’s covered with the hoodie. And he does a Scottish accent while holding the skull. It’s like a wonderful showcase of everything Tom knows and likes to do." (from the crazy smart one's tumblr)
Now I can't get the image of Hamlet doing snake hips out of my head!
>>126 >>127 I'm going with Anon. here - they're not going to film this limited run for NTLive. Even if they hadn't had a ballot system and there was nothing about it that would make them out to be hypocrites, and no physical limitations to setting up the cameras and lighting, it isn't going to happen within these 16 remaining days. There are 2 other major Hamlet productions being staged right now; it wouldn't make sense for them to film RADA's.
If schedules clear for KB and TH early next year and they revive it in the West End where it would up for awards, I would expect it to be filmed by NTLive.
>>127 Now that more tweets are surfacing about the play, it is becoming more clear that the play is a little bit self-indulgent. I've read there's also a dry humping scene on the couch >.<
>>127 This play sounds ridiculous! This sounds like an audition reel for TH or a parody of Hamlet sponsored by Tumblr.
>>130 I wonder if the exclusivity isn't going to backfire on TH, at least a little bit? It certainly hasn't endeared him/KB/RADA to at least one critic (new article from Mark Shelton today: https://www.thestage.co.uk/opinion/2017/mark-shenton-review-hamlet-not-review-hamlet-question/ ). And with most of the coverage coming from twitter reviews that talk about the gimmicks in the production, it may not maintain a sense of "serious actor" after this show vanishes. Already have his google search results are back to being TS related.
>>127 So Sir Ken has not stepped into the role of TH's NO man. Can I dance? Yes. Can I sing? Yes. Can I hip thrust? Yes. The search for the elusive TH wrangler continues.
>>131 He's at the damned if he does, damed if he doesn't stage. Probably not making him enemies, serious ones, but not making friends either, especially not among those who didn't get tickets.
>>132 'Tom Hiddleston's ass has set the new standard for Hamlet asses. His bottom is both powerful and beautifully realized, and utterly Danish in concept and representation. Bravo. 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑🍑'
Strange that his ass is the least exclusive aspect of this performance. It's not like we haven't seen it already.
>>133 That is the quintessence of a review of his butt in this!
The Guardian has also jumped in to ask for an NTL broadcast: https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/06/kenneth-branagh-hamlet-tom-hiddleston-cinemas
Tom, and his costar from The Hollow Crown and The Deep Blue Sea, Simon Russell Beale, advertise an evening featuring John Le Carre, at London's Royal Festival Hall. Apparently the evening is to recognize his most well we'll knwon character, George Smiley, in honor of his most recent book "A Legacy of Spies", and fund raise for MSF. It's being broadcast in cinemas, apparently.
The supposed reasoning behind no DVD recording (not worth it for fundraising), per a student working on the show: https://twitterDOTcom/bourtney/status/905554262222098432
Another "review," with a few more details: http://imaginaryboyfriendcollection.tumblr.com/post/165058435932/hiddlehamlet-a-firsthand-account-part-i
In case it's taken down, here are a couple of pertinent paragraphs - "Important things must be addressed, so: couch humping. Was SO FUNNY. It wasn’t a full-on dry humping (oh god…I just had to take several minutes to think about what that would be like. I’m back now) but rather a couple of energetic thrusts. Which was enough. This was met with laughter and tons of quietly imploding vaginas, I assume."
"In this same scene (a great scene), Hamlet sits on the recently-violated couch with Polonius and laughs loudly with him. It’s rather forced (he’s putting on a show here), but also - seriously adorable. Because Tom. It gifted us with a huge Hiddles grin, which is so damn infectious (as you well know). In the third bout of this laughter, Hamlet dissolves into tears. One of the best things about Tom’s Hamlet was how perfectly and naturally he navigated the quick shifts in his mood - swinging wildly between grief, rage, lunacy, amusement, earnestness - and it all felt incredibly deft and real. Also, that man is gifted when it comes to crying. I think there were real tears in his eyes for about 75% of the performance. At one point, you could see the tears falling, illuminated by the stage lights. It was beautiful."
>>137 Actually I quite enjoyed this! She makes no bones about the fact that it's purely a description of how hot Tom looked while playing Hamlet, and not a review of the production.
PS I don't think of Hamlet as a sobber. He is too calculating for that. Were these tears of relief at TH's rehabilitation as an actor?
A "faint praise" interview from The Stage:
Costumes by Selfridges, I kid you not. And it is not the grey boots but a different pair!
http://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/165083312741/lolawashere-selfridges-as-partners-of
>>140 So after all that fuss from The Stage about critics having to go through the ballot for tix, I wonder how this person got in to see it....?!
Hmmm. They didn't sell ballot tix for yesterday (Wed) yet there are several tweets talking about seeing it last night, including for pre-show drinks with KB (@pargupta). Also tweeted by the CEO of a cinema advert firm (@cinemalover). And a musician associated with RADA. Look under #radahamlet. One was posted 16 hours ago, the others in the last hour or so. Very interesting. Wonder if that's how The Stage critic got in.
And in the popular arts, (1) the Early Man trailer dropped today and (2) set interviews for T:R were released (see Collider and so on).
>>143 The half formed feet of clay are crumbling. All hail the fairness of the ballot system.
>>137 >>139 I suppose she deserves credit for shamelessly being the drooling, Tumblr stereotype, but I had to stop reading when she mentioned sniffing him whenever he passed. I feel this woman would keep him a pit in her basement: 'It puts the tight jeans on and humps the couch or it gets the hose.'
>>143 cough networking cough
Not surprised. I knew there would be something like this, and there will be more. This is Tom's comeback vehicle while also showcasing future promising talent. It's definitely not art for art's sake. But tbh stuff like this is just business, it's not anything underhanded.
>>146 That sniffing part made me eyeroll. Definitely sheds another perspective on her tube meeting with Tom.
>>147 I wouldn't disagree with any of this save for the pious backstory. If you are constantly banging on about how critics have to go in the ballot so as not deprive the charity of money, and about how the ballot is fairer because it allows ordinary theatregoers a fair chance to get tickets, then don't surrender your "dress rehearsal" night AND one performance to networking events.
I read that the dress rehearsal was only open to RADA alumni (and evidently from twitter, their plus ones). That makes me more sure than ever that the special event was not, as has been implied, about raising big ££ from donors. How many RADA graduates are in a position to donate £10k to the cause? Even if they paid for the tickets it wouldn't cover the cost of the canapé reception (I got married in London and I know how much this stuff costs). It was a networking event. Hence, of course, the presence of KB, TH and at least one agent that we know of.
>>146 I missed the sniffing part. HAHAHAHAHAHA re Lecter. No wonder he isn't doing a stage door.
>>149 And last night probably wasn't the last "special" performance. There's one more night in each remaining week that wasn't sold by ballot. (I was wondering why they'd do a Mon. show and be dark on a Tuesday. Now we know.) Wonder how they choose who got to attend last night - bet it wasn't by lottery! Interesting choices when it seems as if U.K. theatre is perceived by many as exclusive. It would irk me less if they could just have gotten their stories straight. "It's a fundraiser! No, it's not about making lots of money! Critics must do the ballot - but if your trade paper complains enough, one of your critics will get to see it by iinvitation!" Sheesh.
>>139 Yeah, I thought it was worth sharing a bit since it's well written for a lust posting! I could see Hamlet crying (he is in mourning, after all), but not for 75% of his time onstage. Tom does cry really, really well, though - another talent he got to showcase in this.
>>146, >>148, >>150 But - haven't many people who've met Tom commented that he smells really nice? (Every time he's on The View, at least one of the women comments on that.) My theory is that some women are already so attracted to him that when they meet him, they can pick up on his pheromones!
In the Early Man trailer, I think Tom got his accent from the French knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRiPQ8YNrVs (Lord Nooth enters at around 0:40).
So let me get this straight, the woman with the mentality of a teenager who met Tom on the tube also went to the Hamlet play and sniffed him?
It must be creepy that Tom saw that girl yet again. Me thinks he has a stalker now.
Wish these losers actually got an actual boyfriend instead of trying to go after a fantasy.
>>149 Agreed. I have a problem with that as well. It just wasn't needed. Then again the whole authentic sincerity spiels where they are not needed is something I've always had an issue with when it comes to TH. I understand that he wasn't behind all of the RADAHamlet ones himself but these unnecessary authentic sincerity backstories seem to be a running theme with whatever he's involved in.
There's going to be more of these non public performances that are for networking and I don't know how the fans will react when they get wind of it.
Haven't listened to it yet but this audio for one of the accessible performances is supposed to give some details of the staging: https://t.co/FGAHzL4z4n?amp=1
>>155 A text version of that descriptive introduction is here: http://vocaleyes.co.uk/?request_file=4394 . I found it interesting especially for glimpses of how the other characters are being played.
>>154 An anon posted yesterday to the crazy clever one' tumblr about the non-public performance on Wed. The CC one's response was to defend it basically as "it's all about the fundraising." Will be interesting to see if more people pick up on this after the private show next week.
Based on a tweet I saw describing the Gala/invitational final preview, they are trying to make these look a little bit about the building campaign. The tweeter mentioned that before the show they were in the old "Drill" space, which I believe is the place RADA wants to turn into its new theatre.
But I agree these are most likely for the networking, and showcasing the actors to important industry types who otherwise might not have seen the show.
>>137 Here's part 2 of the first row review. It's just as long as part 1: http://imaginaryboyfriendcollection.tumblr.com/post/165192560687/hiddlehamlet-a-firsthand-account-part-ii
There's more unabashed fangirling, mixed with the actual play review.
The former: "Dancing. IT HAPPENS. Only for a minute, but it is glorious. The first entry of Rosencrantz and Guildenstern comes with a beats pill playing danceable music (Kendrick Lamar, I think?) and they all bust out a few moves. I gasped. Snake-hipping, y’all! In the middle of Hamlet! Bless you, Sir Kenneth Branagh."
The latter: "His anger and sadness, though, were harrowing to behold. The scene in the very beginning where Hamlet comes out onto a nearly dark stage to play piano and sing is haunting - his pain is palpable, and the entire audience was hanging on his every word and motion. It was like a shot straight to the heart to begin the production...This is supposed to be Hamlet alone in his sorrow, not performing for anyone as he does in other scenes throughout the play. The moment feels incredibly authentic, illustrating perfectly Hamlet’s current frame of mind, and it sets the tone for Tom’s entire performance."
>>158 Is this going to be a six part series? Another 'review.' The fangirling is front and center and greatly colors any information about the play itself. She also indulges in that timeworn fallacy of assuming the entire audience felt the same way she did. '...the entire audience was hanging on his every word....' You mean they were quiet and watching the play, like a theatre audience, rather than trying to sniff him loudly?
>>159 'Review' is a relative term. Any place she was not talking about his body.
From fans, this is probably the reaction he wanted. That slightly obsessive and very flattering gushing. It helps to drown out those Complaining about the ballot. Considering the reviews from critics are also very good, this is going to plan.
It will now segue into Thor promo, where he can shine if he isn't overexposed and handles himself well.
>>158 Didn't I tell you? Snake-hips Hamlet!
>>158, >>161 Oh lawd. Funny voices for the skull? But Hamlet isn't supposed to be playing mad in that scene.... I don't know whether to be annoyed that the rest of us may never get to see this to judge for ourselves whether all the "business" works in context, or to be glad that we may be spared these ideas of what makes Hamet relatable.
>>161 The more I read about this, the more I agree that this production, or at least Tom's performance, was aimed as much at the fans as at his serious actor rep. Over the weekend, a fan's series of tweets talked about him saying some of the monologues right.to.her, and said he gave her a nod and a wink during the curtain call. Yes, a grain of salt needs to be taken, but the fan's mother also noticed Tom doing this. He really can't seem to control his need for attention/adulation, can he?
A blogger review (not fangirlish) with more details of KB's choices and some of the other performances. Interesting that Ophelia is pregnant? And per this person, Tom is making eye contact with the audience during his soliloquies. http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=https%3A%2F%2Fthefeministmonster.wordpress.com%2F2017%2F09%2F11%2Freview-hamlet-at-jerwood-vanbrugh-theatre%2F&t=ZTUwNGZkOWQyYzMwNjZmMGY0MTE3NjQ3NzI3OWE5ZDQ4ZjMwZTNkMixRVENHRzUzTg%3D%3D&b=t%3AwtihBn2-rFBsXVQ3xZvuag&p=http%3A%2F%2Finsanely-smart.tumblr.com%2Fpost%2F165227234193%2Freview-hamlet-at-jerwood-vanbrugh-theatre&m=1
Why is he catering to his fans so much when those same fans hated him with a passion for dating a pop star. He's 36 years old and still pandering to his over entitled annoying fanbase. He needs to grow up and this interpretation of Hamlet sounds incredibly dumb. I hope Andrew Scott takes awards for his Hamlet. Humping a couch and dancing...he's ridiculous. He's as immature as his fans
>>159>>161 Yeah, these Tumblr fan reviews aren't reviews of the play or his acting. It's just accounts of Tom's looks, his body, and a competition of "he looked directly at me!" "Oh yeah? Well he winked and grinned and looked at me" "pfft well he blew a kiss at me and now I'm carrying baby hiddles so take that bitches". It's all fantasy projection and fan competition.
>>162>>164 I'm sure he preens and adores the applause and attention but it's probably normal Tom levels. I don't think it's as ridiculous as these fans are making it sound. The music, the dancing, the couch humping (I've read such different accounts of the famous couch humping that I can't tell if it's actual humping anymore or just one quick suggestive hip thrust that's being overblown), it probably all works well within the context of the play but when these fans write it through their fantasy lens, it starts to sound like a montage of Tom's most embarrassing moments. Tumblr fan reviews on Tom anything are always focused on him and their fantasies than the actual work or truth of what actually happened so it always makes me laugh when these fans tack on the obligatory "but the play was true art! I wish he'd do more art"...yeah we can tell how much you appreciated the art lol
>>164 I don't think these 'encounters' should be considered catering or pandering. And I didn't intend to suggest this with my comments. This would be pandering if he were actually making eye contact with audience members. Without knowing the theatre, I can't be completely certain, but it's hard to pick out a particular person in a darkened audience from a lit stage. The exaggeration may be giving a different impression of what is actually happening.
I've heard good things about the Pinter (I think that's where it is) Hamlet, but again reviews make it sound 'interesting' too. Will TH be eligible for any awards? I don't know the criteria well enough.
>>166 Once long ago I attended a party after a performance of the Histories at the RSC (both tetralogies over 4 days!). The actor playing Jack Cade and I talked about a soliloquy he did when Cade fantasises about the women he will get when his rebellion succeeds. I was on the front row (large theatre with thrust stage, lights down over audience during performance, i.e. bigger than this theatre but otherwise similar in feel and layout). He was standing very close to me and I felt he delivered the whole speech to me as he was looking right at me throughout. During the party I met the actor and told him how unnerving it felt - like the fourth wall wasn't really there any more (something the RSC does well but never better than at this moment). One of the things I asked him was whether he could actually see me. The answer I got surprised me. Absolutely he said. As long as the spots are not right in your eyes, which they aren't as they would dazzle you, on a thrust stage as opposed to a proscenium arch, you can see a lot. He told me that for that speech he always homed in on a young woman in the front couple of rows, and delivered the speech to her. It helped him capture Cade's mood in that speech. These women might not be entirely wrong when they say TH was looking right at them, choosing someone to wink at etc.
If I had just performed Hamlet I'd preen and enjoy the applause!! It's had good reviews and he is apparently one of the highlights (not just for the fans). I think he is entitled to bask in the applause for his performance. (I know you aren't saying he shouldn't)
My beef with it was always different - the readymade rehab from Uncle Ken and the problematic relationship of that objective to the fundraising objective, plus the "strange" way thag there turned out to be a show a week for all the mates, agents, hangers on etc.
Thank you for the insight that we are getting an edited perspective with the fangirling elements front and centre. I think you are right and that it's skewing perspective. Written like this Coriolanus would have been all about the shower scene and the snog with Aufidius (though there is textual support for the latter). It didn't feel like that when I watched it.
>>162 I think he and Sir K are trying to walk a very thin line in regards to 'audience.' He needs to win back fans, the Guardian, HW big wigs and Tumblr all while couching it in a robe of charity. It's a big ask.
>>162 I think he does have trouble controlling his need for attention and adulation. That seems to be part and parcel of wanting to be a big HW star. Toss in a desire for acceptance and recognition and it can be cringey. It's not terribly different from what most people want, but the scale seems bigger (maybe necessarily so) as he's an actor.
>>165 You're correct in that there is definitely a fantasy lens when it comes to TH, a pretty thick one smeared with vaseline. Hard to tell what it real and what is embellished beyond recognition with accounts from fans. I saw him at the Times Talk and instantly declared HL the winner of that evening - knock out in the first round winner. Reading accounts of it later on tumblr and twitter, I realized that I didn't have my fan glasses on because everyone was gushing about TH.
>>165 Do more art...where you're naked...and dance...and hump furniture...and I can smell your man musk.
>>165 Agree with Anon in >>168 re: thanks for the reminder that we are seeing the production largely filtered through fangirl write-ups. >>168 And thanks, Anon, for the comparison with Coriolanus. I was going to ask those of you who've been at this longer than I have how the tweets/tumbler/blogs for RadHam compare with those from TH's previous live shows.
>>166, >>167 It usually is hard to see from a stage into the audience, but it does depend on the lighting. I think some of the fan reviews have said that Hamlet's soliloquies are darkly lit, and this audience is practically sitting on top of the actors, so Tom may be able to see them more than usual. And I don't think it's really unusual for an actor to pick a point of focus, including an audience member; it's certainly a common technique in public speaking. That said, Tom is nearsighted, so he may just be making "eye contact" with what to him is a blurry oval!
>>169 I keep remembering the KSI promo interview he did with some Korean semi-celebrity guy. Every time he said or did something possibly amusing, Tom looked off-camera to his publicity person for her feedback/reaction. I think his neediness in this regard shows more than it may with other actors because when he was younger, he got away with it showing through because it was "cute," his face is very expressive even for an actor, and he might really have a bit more need for reinforcement than other actors do.
No idea if this is a regular reviewer or not, but here it is: http://www.westendwilma.com/review-tom-hiddleston-hamlet-rada/
If anyone's interested in more staging details and some idea of which scenes were cut or moved, there's a four-part series here (yes, some fangirling, but not too much - at this point I'm just posting stuff if I think it adds some insight): http://hiddlescheekbones.tumblr.com/post/165272043814/hamlet-at-rada-a-very-long-and-very-detailed
I hope that the drama professor mentioned in these writes up her impressions at some point.
Yep, they're definitely doing invitation-only events on the "dark" nights. Someone from a PR firm posted a photo of the special invitation. She's since deleted the tweet, but it's captured here: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/165294258543/twittercomprmattersukstatus907907769193209857
I saw a few other tweets about last night's event - another PR person, an agent, and one random guy.
>>167 I've had similar experiences with actors/ actresses making prolonged or frequent eye contact during a performance. At a performance of Midsummer Night's Dream, the actress playing Helena made frequent eye contact with me throughout her scenes because I kept laughing at the humor she brought to her Helena, it was different than the usual way I've seen Helena done and I was loving it. The actress told me afterwards that I was one of the few in her line of sight who caught on to the humor and that's why she'd focus on me during some of her scenes, it helped with her performance. I think connecting with the character and audience through eye contact is probably a more common practice among theater actors than we realize, and not the love/ lust at first sight some of these Tumblr fans keep trying to insinuate.
>>168 From all non fan accounts, it does sound like Tom put on a great performance so kudos to him. Preen away, THids! I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to the hoopla surrounding the play. The "we've been wanting to work for 7 yrs!" flimsy excuse to hide lack of non-Marvel projects to the overblown charity and ballot bit when they knew there would be nights reserved for exclusive guests for networking. Maybe just stay quiet there, no need to address every single thing.
>>170 I agree. I like Tom, his personality has its own charm even if it's on the puppy side, and his acting talent is good. But I disagree with his fans when they act like he's the first good looking actor to ever have acted ever in the history of humanity and everything else doesn't matter. Currently, many of them are being so personally offended because they don't think Loki is being promoted enough for Ragnarok and are venting that Loki is the real money maker and should be front and center. Forget the fact that it's a movie about Thor (it's in the damn name ffs) and it should center around him, and not the secondary Loki character. I guess that's most obsessive fans of any celebrity but it doesn't make it any less obnoxious though.
>>172 The critic and non fan reviews just confirm what most of us knew all along, that Tom is a good actor and has potential to be a great one. Too bad he doesn't have the patience to keep at it and steer clear of the tabloid aspect. Succumbing to cheap tactics like PRmances with pop stars and pap walks with FWB co-stars take away from the talent he has to offer and make him a non option for good solid roles that may not be lead but could become award worthy with his performance.
>>174 This was all bound to come out. That's why they shouldn't have gone on and on about the fairness of the ballot bs. Clearly it's all business but to those unfamiliar, it seems underhanded and unfair. Some of TH fans who think he does art for art's sake and is all about the acting will certainly have something to say. Wait for the thesis length posts on Tumblr.
>>174 I'm surprised that there hasn't been more noise in the fandom about the reserved nights. (Anons have brought it up several times on the crazy clever one's tumblr, but she's shushed them each time.) Maybe RADA lucked out that the first one came to light long enough after the balloting had ended that people had recovered sufficiently from their disappointment and took the news stoically, or fans are still buying that those shows are for fundraising with bigger potential donors. Maybe those nights do have at least some donors, but the attendees who've tweeted about them are clearly in the business. The great chain of backscratching continues! (I wonder if the PR woman who tweeted a copy of her invitation took it down because she was getting questions, or because RADA asked her to nix it....)
Something good will come out of the backscratching nights, though - the newer actors in the cast are getting great exposure to agents, PR people, and so on!
In other news, this article about Cumberbatch's career contrasts him with Tom (though mostly in terms of Tom not having as many haters): https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/benedict-cumberbatch-whitewashing-gypsy-boy/
I think it raises an interesting point, though - has Tom been less successful than, say, BC because he's tried for variety in his choice of roles? (Loki aside, of course.) Or is the difference in their levels of success due to BC having a five-year head start? Or some other factors?
I am not surprised that the fans have sucked up whatever justification RADA provides about the freeloader nights. The well known blogs are by and large deeply and almost perversely uncritical of him and also of anyone/thing associated with him.
Until, that is, the person or thing ceases to be associated with him. The best example is TS. When she and Tom "got together" there was a lot of chat from anons and in the media about her habit of pap strolling with boyf and useful accessory such as small child. Also about her silence when far right organisations used her image without permission, her problematic squad version of feminism etc etc.
The big tumblr blogs just refused point blank to engage with this and said that if TH was with her she must be an amazing unicorn and that anyone who criticised her for any reason was a hater (of him). Then when they split all the blogs magically started posting articles about her problematic feminism etc!!
My favourite example was at the height of the relationship when GossipCop issued one of its usual bullshit denials of an obviously true story, and her fans leapt in to say that the "source" was Tree Paine (her publicist) and that she was the source for all GC's TS stories, therefore the denial was accurate.
I said, hang on, about 36 hours before she split with CH, didn't GC write a story denying that they had a problem? Did that come from Tree as well? And doesn't that mean that Tree lies to the press? The contortions that the fans went into in order to defend TS (and her publicist!) were amazing:
(1) there is a special wording that GC uses when it is using TP as a source ("sources close to TS say") and this wasn't one of those articles
(2) GC is a shit rag which makes stuff up like all the rest of the webloids (only not, of course, when it is supporting Tayto, when it is a reliable, biblically true source)
(3) the story was from Tree but she didn't know at the time that TS has split with Calvin, which TS had kept from her
(4) the story was from Tree and IT WAS TRUE because Taylor had not at that time decided to split with Calvin, which happened and was announced to the press within the next 36 hours
Many of these explanations came from the same people. I pointed out that these couldn't all be true and several people unfollowed me because I was a hater and ruining the fandom with my negative energy. They all piled onto TS as soon as the split happened, believe me.
>>179, >>180 Despite their claims to logic, some of those blogs don't take any hint of criticism or questioning kindly. The main nanny tumblr I watch jumped down the throat of an anon who dared to suggest that this pure fundraiser might also might benefit TH's career....
Speaking of which, kudos again to whoever planned this, for the timing in particular. The initial heavy RadHam coverage has segued beautifully into the next round of T:R videos/articles, and the first true trailer for EM. Links to any TS-related stuff have almost vanished from the first page of Tom's Google results.
Let's hope he doesn't pay too much attention to faces in the audience, because Berlinale got a ticket after all! Supposedly someone's +1, going next week. She's getting shit for it on tumblr. Perhaps this is why Tom's bodyguard was seen in the audience for at least one performance!
RADA may be watching for certain fangirls. This is the one who got a ticket by taking over someone else's successful ballot - sounds like she was questioned at the box office. Too bad RADA has no way of knowing whether or not money changed hands. https://twitterDOTcom/claireyfairy1/status/908458824381628416
>>181 Shiiiiiiiit. She's considering interrupting the play to ask about the scratches on his neck in a movie from 2007. Completely reasonable, right?? This is HER chance and mean ole HL isn't there to snatch it cruelly from her. Tom totally wants her to ask; she can see it in his eyes.
>>182 Oooo yeah, she's blaming it on TH's fans - https://twitter.
com/claireyfairy1/status/908674015673356288
>>181 >>183 Yep, the new bodyguard has been there to help scope out the audience. There's an unconfirmed lady stalker rumor, but I think it's general security because of nutters.
Been waiting for the perfect moment to tell the following story. It's not about a nutter, and I'll give you the supershort version: a former huge TH fan with a very popular Tom tumblr went to a red carpet event and brought a couple of pictures for him to sign. It would be the 2nd time she'd seen him in person and gotten an autograph. He eventually got to her and her friend. He looks directly at her for several seconds like he recognized her, reached over to sign her friend's picture, then walked away to someone else. A deliberate snub. Was it because he thought she was just collecting autographs to resell on eBay? Was it because his security were watching her tumblr, and showed him her picture so he can be aware of her?
Like I said, hers was only a picture reblog tumblr. She almost never made original text posts about him, or participated in the back and forth with people lusting over him. Based on that I wouldn't have considered her a security risk but maybe she was doing something else on the side we don't know about. However, if not, If he snubbed her for no other reason than recognizing her from the first time and not wanting to give her more autographs, then 1. why are there other fans who he's taken selfies with multiple times and 2. what will happen if he spots Berlinale in the audience, mid-sentence?
>>184 I've seen this girl on a very popular gossip site that i sometimes frequent. She loves showing off vids and pics of her meeting him and giving her hugs. Its gone so far that a foreign site that's dedicated to him has a lot of pictures with him with her to the point I think this girl is obsessed and she has admitted traveling far to his sets just to meet him. She's very nanny-esque with him obviously as well.
I mean his fans are ridiculous. Just because he's nice to you and even gives you a creepy hug--which btw is something he should've never have started to begin with--doesn't mean he's in love with you or you're his soulmate. These girl's and even women who should know better really step over a lot of boundaries, but then again so has TH. And this girl has seen him more then 2 times. I think because she's pretty i guess he doesn't mind giving her attention.
Maybe the reason he snub that girl that you mentioned is because maybe she's not attractive. I'm sure if it was a attractive girl like the girl i mentioned he wouldn't mind signing or taking multiple photographs.
I wonder if he's ever slept with any of his fangirls. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these fangirls lie about their age. TH is partly to blame for this. There's no reason he should be hugging total strangers, especially impressionable girls who get a bit too involved about his life.
>>184 Maybe it wasn't Tumblr or online related at all. If she had more than a few pics/ posters etc and he remembered signing other stuff for her before he might have thought she was collecting autographs to sell online.
>>185 That's a rather large leap...from hugging fans to sleeping with them (though I do agree he shouldn't go around hugging random strangers all the time like that because one never knows). I don't think he's been careless enough to sleep with a civilian groupie type fan, though I'm sure he's probably hooked up with ppl in the industry who are fans of his or fancy him. From what I've seen, it doesn't seem like Tom takes any fan's physical features into consideration when he's doing his usual greeting fans and posing with them routines. I've seen pics and vids of him with fans who range from conventional good looks to quirky to average to everything. That behavior sounds more like something Justin Bieber would do...
>>180 did they label you a "toxic" lol Seems like anyone who disagrees or points out any sort of logic to any of these big TH tumblrs, they're marked as a toxic and the faceless anons are set on them.
>>187 I'm not important enough to be a toxic. Also I had been on here for some time before Tayto (and even before Theo) so I didn't care to engage on tumblr too much.
I think he has always been alert to those who sell autographs. I have seen footage from years ago where he refused to sign for people who had had one already. Most autograph sellers are male but he may have come to the conclusion that anyone with multiple pics on one occasion is a seller. Hence he would sign for or pose with fans he had seen before but only if they had one pic on each occasion.
>>185 I haven't seen any evidence that he goes with fans. Maybe he did in the early days when he wasn't so famous, but I am sure not now. I imagine it is industry types and friends of friends. The age of consent in the U.K. is 16. You would have to be very young indeed to be pretending you were not underage and I think most intelligent men could spot a 15 year old pretending to be older. I have never heard even a hint of TH sleeping with someone underage.
The little RadHam tickets mysteries continue. A young actor tweeted Fri. AM that he and at least one other person were being comp'd by RADA for that night's show. An attendee at one of yesterday's show tweeted that she saw at least four empty seats. A couple of well-known actors (Riz Amhad, Tom Hollander) have been spotted in the house. Did the shows not sell out after all? Are people with tix not showing up? Or (my strong suspicion) did RADA only sell 130 seats but has more seats available for people in the business? (Depending on how it's configured, that theatre can seat up to 160).
>>190 Its totally for industry people. That whole show is not only for Hiddles rebranding but also for Branagh's RADA graduates to get some jobs, agents etc.
I don't like how this play has been advertised. Making it seem like its some charity when its only for a bunch of elite people to meet other elite people. No wonder the UK have a diversity problem with students who can't afford to get into a very expensive school like RADA. It's very unfair for working class people to compete with a "charity play" like that.
>>190 Nanny response: 'RA and THo are such fans of TH that they entered the ballot like everyone else.' Yep.
I went looking for empty seat/comped tweets and the like. Found about a dozen from the start of the run. Also found a woman who described herself as a 'last minute seat filler' courtesy of a friend who works at Rada. Hmmm. The rottenness remains in the state.
>>191 Unknown, to your knowledge, is this the first 'charity play' that RADA has ever done? Have other theaters had charity play short runs like this?
>>193 Good question, Whats. I don't know if Unknown has that specialist knowledge but I bet someone on the board does.
They touted the ballot system as all but revolutionary, so that element seems a first, at least for Rada. When I lived in London I was a semi-frequent theatre goer both on my own dime and on the boyfriend's Citibank client entertaining allowance. I never attended a play at Rada or knew anyone who had attended. Of course I knew of Rada. I don't think they have alumni back to perform/direct in this way but I could be wrong. I have no idea about the fundraising part of this. Maybe every play at Rada is technically a fundraiser as the students don't get paid for it.
This all is just more proof that this seems to be a beast constructed for a particular set of goals.
I have lived in London for many years and have been a committed theatregoer for most of them.
I have never heard of a RADA event of this type
I am sure that they have always had fundraisers and I think I have in the past heard of carols services, concerts, drinks parties. I am also sure that they do graduation shows in which their students perform - this is not least because they can't accept work during the course, so there are well-established structures to enable them to be seen by agents and casting directors. But I haven't ever heard of an alumni play like this.
As for other theatres - they do have schmoozing events like meet the cast, drinks parties, talks. The Donmar has guaranteed allocations of tickets for significant donors (for which they pay) and for very big donors a complimentary performance with pre and post show drinks and talks: https://www.donmarwarehouse.com/support/membership/ Fair enough as you have to donate £1750 a year to get that.
But it is the other way around from how the nannies envisage - you donate first and you get invited to the event after, as a reward for your support. They don't go out on the streets looking for rich people interested in theatre and invite them along hoping they might donate.
As far as I can see, the big difference for the RADA special performance nights, and the mysterious additional tickets, is that they are not pegged to a previous donation.
I am sure that some attendees have donated lots - David Attenborough clearly has, whether directly or through Richard Attenborough's legacies. I also imagine that KB himself has been a big donor as he has been a loyal supporter of RADA over the years. But the only actual criterion for attendance at the rehearsal do was being a graduate of RADA. I am also fairly sure that the "spare" tickets were, if not comped, sold for face value, whereas the Donmar special ticket allocation for sold out performances has to be paid for, and only goes to those who have made big donations.
Every person who goes to a special members' production at the Donmar "for free" has made a donation of at least £1750. If that was how they allocated these seats for the "dark" nights I am sure that nobody would query it. The fact that nobody at RADA has said this suggests to me that that isn't what is going on here.
Tidbits of possible interest:
Tom, being cradled deep in Ken's bosom; never has his PR been this good. But who else would be as loving as a mentor who's also had his ups and downs.
"Kenneth Branagh interview: 'Tom Hiddleston and I were always honest about Hamlet' "
Excerpts:
Tickets for his pop-up performance at RADA – allocated by ballot for the three-week run – have been like gold dust and there has been much wailing and teeth gnashing from those, including critics, excluded from this collector’s item event. Even the Guardian’s film critic pleaded for the production to be “beamed into Britain’s movie theatres”.
That’s not going to happen, Sir Ken affirms as the final performances loom this weekend, arguing that the 160-seater Vanbrugh “isn’t set up to do a big-screen transfer – though I embrace that idea in other venues. I am pro accessibility”. He also rules out the production having a further life. “We have been honest from the word go. No one was in an option to go to the West End – and there have been no conversations with Tom about doing it again down the line.”
Rather incredibly, neither he nor Hiddleston seems to have fully anticipated the demand. “I’m very, very surprised at the amount of attention it has got,” he confesses, suavely dressed in dark blue blazer and jeans, still boyish at 56. His leading man even worried there might be empty seats. “We thought we should do a ballot, because we knew he had fans, but Tom was very sweet about it and genuinely asked ‘Do you think we’ll sell out?’”
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For Hiddleston, a formidable Coriolanus at the Donmar in 2013, the challenge was to stretch himself at close quarters: “He wanted to discover an emotional depth that might have surprised people who consider him a cerebral actor.” In an interpolated opening scene, the audience sees the black clad prince of Denmark at the piano mourning his dead father in song – “He’s this raw, grieving thing,” says Branagh.
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As for Hiddleston, fans shouldn’t feel distraught. “I’ve played Hamlet in four different productions, Derek Jacobi played it hundreds of times. And I’m sure Tom is interested in playing Benedick and Richard III. So, the public need to be assured that there will be a lot of pleasure coming our way.” Watch this space.
>>198 Oh yes - Tom's PR team should hire Sir Ken! (Though I did sense that KB might be a mite peeved that most of the attention for the production was for Tom, not for Tom and the director. Even this interview spent more time on RadHam than on KB's upcoming MotOE. And you'll note that KB doesn't talk about wanting to do more Shakespeare with Tom.)
I don't buy that KB is "very very surprised at the amount of attention." Everything about the production was designed precisely to get as much attention as possible - especially not comp'ing the critics, which probably got the show even more press than it otherwise would have received. I can see Tom being insecure about it selling out, though.
So that's that, except for some straggling reviews from attendees. We may be a little Hamletted-out on here, so I won't bother posting any unless there's something really unusual.
Oh, a question for the UK-theatre goers. What does it mean when a performance is described as "very RADA" or "too RADA"?
>>198 This was unintentionally hilarious in several respects. After an anecdote I heard recently from someone who has met him, I can however believe the neediness of the "will it sell out?" story.
It seems that Cumberbatch did mysteriously manage to acquire a seat for the last night. He must have made his wife go in the ballot too. https://diariesofatravelingclassicist.wordpress.com/2017/09/24/750/
>>200 I think it means too posh, mannered, flaring nostrils, over-dramatic, a bit queeny, etc. Does that help? In the old days theatre types were often called "luvvies" in Britain because the stereotype was that they called one another and everyone else "love" or "luvvy" all the time. You don't hear that as a term of abuse very often now. TH is not wholly immune to this as he does call a lot of people darling, even fans he has never met.
>>201 Can you say more about the anecdote (only if you're comfortable doing so, of course)? And what else did you find funny in the article?
Yes, so mysterious how that worked. Helena Bonham Carter was at one of the other public performances earlier in the week. Maybe there were celebrity smack-downs happening in the parking lot to see who would get a returned ticket!
That does help about "too RADA" - I was guessing it was something like "affected, too stagy," and so forth.
Ok anecdote. The person I met worked closely with him and still sees him for pub nights out etc. Apparently very charming and gentlemanly but also buttock-clenchingly earnest and desirous of approval (this from a man, and not from a famous one either). Thus far, thus fairly unsurprising, save that the neediness must be pretty noticeable if a regular bloke can spot it.
The specific anecdote relates to an encounter at a party between TH and Jude Law.
The latter, as you will know, is not a tall man (I can confirm this having met him twice - once on the street and once in a restaurant). He apparently deals with this by invading one's personal space during conversation, meaning standing very very close and drawing himself up to his full 5 foot 6.
Anyway, all eyes were on how these two alpha gorillas would deal with one another - Law playing to TH's insecurities by being more famous, and TH playing to Law's by being 9 inches taller. I am told that Law had a go at standing close but realised quite quickly that this wasn't really working given TH's height!! They apparently spent the rest of the evening circling one another slightly mistrustfully and talking in Serious Deep Voices about their "projects.
PS capcha was "Law" !!
Things I thought were funny about the article:
(1) "surprised at the attention Hiddleham got"?!!!!! Come on, Ken! I have loved you for many years, and if my number ever comes up in the One Time Sex With A Celebrity of Your Choice Lottery, I will probably use my ticket on you and not Hiddleston, but you are trying my patience here!!
(2) the moustache picture.
>203 "buttock-clenchingly earnest" "talking in Serious Deep Voices" - you made my day!
>204 Let's hope no one goes to MotOE expecting to lip read, because you can't even tell that KB has a mouth behind that 'stache.
>>199 Yep, Hamletted out except for one last question: why did he wear such tight clothes, as mentioned in most of the reviews in the latter 2 weeks of the run? Proprioceptive issues? Did he gain weight?
>>203 I've read one or more anecdotes and blind items about that particular personality trait as part of an overall insecurity. So the 'will we fill the seats' quote I said 'really, not again dude'
>>204 I'll use mine on Idris Elba.
>>203 My hubby and I were talking about the concept of the alpha male a few weeks ago. We were compiling a list: Harrison Ford, Paul Newman, Steve McQueen, Muhammad Ali, Teddy Roosevelt, George Washington, General D. MacArthur, Idris Elba, Daniel Craig.
Based on this, I wouldn't say that either TH and JL are alpha males. The former for his wet rag self confidence and need for approval, the latter for his lack of physical presence and hang-up about it. They are both good looking, charming, and successful in their fields (and with the ladies, though JL provides more proof of that) but neither screams alpha male. To me, at least. Perhaps it depends on the setting, and they were at the top of the totem at that particular party.
QOTD: Is TH alpha? Was he before the shirt and GQ? After? Is the alpha male just a myth?
SQOTD: Who do you use your Celeb Sex Free Pass card on?
>>207 The words "alpha gorillas" were interpolated by me, not without irony, because:
1) they are really not alpha gorilla types
2) they are not at all hairy
3) they like to think they are alpha gorillas
You are right to say that the underlying reason for the phrase was that they were at the top of the tree at that particular gathering - hence the circling/rivalry and the onlookers' mirth.
This lack of self-confidence has got to be cutting deeply into the success of his auditions. Maybe not when it comes to Shakespeare but anything else outside of his comfortable acting box. The depths that some of the more versatile actors go to for roles requires he trusts himself. I know that it's been said here that therapy is not something Brits tend to do, but he needs something to build himself up. Private acting workshop?
I don't know, what so actors do when they need to get their mojo back?
*I don't know, what do actors do when they need to get their mojo back?
>>209 NewAnon has reminded us that many of his roles were either secured through connections, given to him by directors (because he looked like the character), or when others dropped out and he was the next available 'store brand' Brit. The list is long: Thors and Avengers (Sir K); ISTL, MiP (picked by directors); CP, OLLA (store brand Brit replacement); Shit Island (through legendary/CP).
He auditioned for Thor but I think the others landed in his lap. TNM and HR, as I recall, also were presented to him.
He's not had to 'fight' for many of his roles. If he's not very good at auditioning, it's because he's out of practice!
>>211 Whatever mojo was restored by Hamlet, I wonder if it will last. I ask because I get the feeling, mostly from SDCC, that TH won't be two wheeling with T:R promo, as in the past. I think he'll be three wheeling it with Messrs. Hemsworth and Ruffalo. But then add in the director and other stars and suddenly he's on the middle axle of an 18-wheeler - not where he usually is and not where someone with shaky confidence likes to be.
>>206 Now that you mention it, his clothes/costumes didn't look all that tight in the photo shoot pictures. Maybe he started training for Loki (if he's in A4) and bulked up a little. Or maybe it's from leftovers of that delicious-looking catered food.
>>207 QOTD: I don't know if human alpha males are a myth or not, but I think that human males believe in the concept (at least in the US)! TH, I don't see as alpha - he has alpha moments, but mostly looks like an alpha wannabe. And That Shirt did not help. SQOTD: Currently, Aidan Turner.
>>208 Suddenly I'm envisioning TH and JL as those monkeys whose calls are booms!
>>211 (snicker) Though I think you've hit on something - another purpose of RadHam could have been to rebuild not only TH's reputation but his self-confidence.
>>213 It is sounding as though he won't be as prominent in T:R promo as he's been in the past. He might welcome that, though, since it means less chance of awkward questions about HS. (Especially if TS does something else super-duper public about the album during the T:R promos.)
Back to >>209 I think you and Anon are on to something here. Maybe the reason he's not getting the leading man roles he wants is that his insecurity is too noticeable, and that's not a trait associated with most conventional leading men.
>>215 >>209 It's not - which is why for every claim of "HS didn't have an effect on his career" I silently say "the humiliation further eroded already shaky ground"
>>213 >>215 No telling how the T:R promos will be sorted out. I agree with what Anon. said.
>>212 I forgot how long the list of connections was. Add to what you noted: all 3 roles in the Joanna Hogg films and his last 2 stage roles.
>>216 Yes.
I think we have said on here before that pre Hiddleswift he enjoyed a very good relationship with the press. Think of all those Guardian interviews - he was respected and liked. KB talked in that interview about what a hard Tim he had in the press and it is true - he was absolutely pilloried for being earnest, too clever by half, and ambitious. Pre-Tayto, TH wasn't criticised at all for those traits, which he possesses to a degree - it was presented as part of an endearing package. I don't recall reading a single really critical feature or interview (I'm setting aside reviews or CB which is snarky about everything and only gets it secondhand anyway).
The loss of that good standing must have shaken TH deeply. It's evident that he worked hard to be liked in interviews so to have the Guardian just write the snark without hesitation must have stung. I mean, they invited him to the WHCD a few months before.
>>206 >>214 Could be that he stopped or cut back running during the play and he gained wait.
>>217 The backside of "earnest, too clever by half, and ambitious" are overenthusiastic, butt-kissing, know-it-all, which filled some blind items about him during two specific times: the first Avengers movie run and during the dying month of HS (i.e. after she went back to the US), especially the know-it-all part.
I guess when Thor promo starts we'll see if being the hot ticket in town helped boost his confidence. If not maybe he and Sir K. will have been working for years on staging Macbeth in a bathroom...for charity.
What a minefield promo will be now: Tayto, her album promo and all the potential 'bristle' questions about the two. Remember when the top of the promo cringe scale was yodeling and bad accents. Ah, the good old days.
OT for a Sunday morning:
We went to see Wind River on Friday. EO's delivery is still flat as a pancake but that could just be her voice. She and Renner did well with some very one dimensional characters and a plot/script that paced like an obese hamster in its wheel. After seeing it, we were surprised it has such a high RT score.
Hello! Hope all is well. When is baby's first birthday?
I am assuming that October will be another project free month as there is such a short time before Thor 3 promo starts in earnest. Let's hope Hamlet has resulted in lots of enquiries....
In the British press at least the whole Swifty thing has gone rather quiet. She hasn't been up to anything much and I do feel there has been a gear change in how he is regarded. Whatever the snarking in the press about the exclusivity, he got great reviews and he now seems to be regarded as a serious person again. By that I guess I mean interested in the craft and not too obviously gagging to be a star.
Even snark wise there wasn't anything like our level of scepticism, and the mainstream press seems not to have picked up on what was going on with the "dark" nights.
>>220 And Tom will have always wanted to play King Scot in an undiscovered bathroom....
>>221 It's good to hear that the press seems to see him as a serious person again. (Though the Telegraph, in that recent Branagh article, did have to get in "Hiddleston, 36, became a household name in the UK on the back of his brooding (and bottom-baring) turn on The Night Manager"!) I guess it's good that he's back to being snarked for dropping his trousers?
One recent RadHam tidbit from the company that handled the balloting:
"We came up with the idea of a ballot process or lottery, where entrants would be picked at random with the opportunity to book tickets within a specified window of time. Here’s how taking this radical new approach supported RADA’s aims and provided an amazing customer experience at the same.
Note what's number one and what's last, and the acknowledged publicity play in number four.
Also, the technical parts of the article imply to me that had they/RADA wanted to, they could have prevented the complete transfer of successful ballots from winners to others.
https://www.spektrix.com/blog/how-ballot-ticketing-put-rada-in-the-spotlight/
Good spot. Very interesting. I see that a major attraction was offering the opportunity to make an extra donation at the point of sale. I wonder how many actually did so, and how much it raised. On these numbers even if every single person paid an extra fiver it wouldn't have raised a lot. I bet a lot of people didn't add an extra donation as the base price was pretty expensive and yeah.
At the BFI Luminous gala:
>>224 I looked through all of the Getty Images (where that photo is from) to find others of him, 15 pages worth, but that's all they managed to get of him for the night. I couldn't even find a video clip on YouTube. How's that for super-low profile?
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BFI again. With a man with an incredibly small head.
A fan had a chance meeting with him today (Wednesday): http://geniaparadox.tumblr.com/post/166045943026/i-am-fucking-losing-it-guys-holy-shit-i-met-tom
Lighting and shadows can age a person, but this photo plus >>224 and >>226 tell me that he's lost a lot of weight because I haven't seen those eyes that sunken and with dark circles since he was at the London Evening Standard Theatre Awards in early 2014, about a month after he finished filming ISTL and he was still gaunt from playing a drugged and boozed up Hank.
I don't relish this; I hope that I'm wrong, that he's still at his Loki skinniness and these are badly lit and angled photos.
>>224 When they both have full beards, Tom looks even more like he could be Jeremy Irons's son - couldn't have hurt his casting chances for Henry IV!
>>226 I think it's partly the odd camera angle and partly that that young man hasn't finished his growth - look how loose his tux is.
>>227, >>228 Agree that they are poorly shot photos, especially the 2nd BFI and the fan ones. But also notice that he's not really smiling in any of them, and his smile plays a big part in making him photogenic. He looks quietly annoyed in the fan shot, I think. And maybe he came down with something after RadHam closed. It's not unusual for cast or crew members to get sick after a show ends, since you've been running in high gear for several months.
Wow...he looks really haggard in these new pics. Especially the one with the kid. Like Whatsinaname said, I really hope it's just bad lighting.
It is bad lighting. New pics on Torrilla from Q&A on “Early Man” with Maisie Williams. He looks and sounds good, calm, and grounded. I’m sorry I cant link from my phone.
>>231 He does look good - provided you like beards! (I can't stand this look on him).
I see from the accounts of this publicity thing that Eddie Redmayne couldn't attend and sent a recording. Mmmmm.
>>233 I was just thinking, one big name busy, the other less so!
Thor Ragnarok premiere! In a really bad Gucci suit! Still has beard! https://instagram.com/p/BaF7aWtA4ZG/
>>236 And though you can't tell from these pix, also still has the long hair. Agree this outfit wasn't his best look - wonder if Yrs Truly was involved or not.
In the red carpet interview I saw (live, so no link) he came across pretty well, I thought. Moderate energy and didn't play too much to the pretty interviewers. Maybe the beard represents the new, mature TH.
Apparently the older gent is his dad (via a CB link). I don't think I have ever seen a pic of them together before. I once saw a brief video of the tow of them at another premiere.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DL22VWmXcAE_ZCF?format=jpg&name=small
>>236 It is her: https://instagram.com/p/BaHhGlanClT/
>>239 That is his father. He was also with Tom at the premiere of the first Thor movie. I’m on my phone so I can’t, but if you search YouTube for “Tom Thor Pop Sugar” you should find it.
I meant to reference >>237 for the IG link.
>>238 And so speculation continues over why his contribution to the press has been downplayed. Marvel could be wanting to concentrate more on the Mark/Chris/Taika relationship, and they don’t want there to be a chance of any Loki spoilers getting out by accident. There’s the unsubstantiated stalker rumor and the avoiding ts rumor.
Re Yourstruly - Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh! Still, no surprise given that the suit was hideous and too tight.
Re PapaHidds - I think this is the video I saw. Oddly he looked older in that vid whereas in this pic he looks younger and pretty dapper. Not devilishly handsome though. It's always so interesting how two people come together and make a child who is great looking. Especially given that the sisters don't look greatly like TH or each other and aren't anywhere near as striking (not that they aren't attractive, but they don't have what I'd call movie star looks).
>>242 TH doesn't have movie star looks either so...His sisters especially his younger sister looks way better then even him.
His father looks really old. They must've made Tom when they were much older then average, even though Tom isn't that old tho he looks older then he actually is which is another story.
Marvel is really pushing the Ruffalo x Hemsworth promotion. TS album hasn't released yet and when it does its around the U.S. premiere of Thor Ragnarok. So they're probably trying to downplay Tom's promotional involvement.
Also its about time Chris actually started promoting his own movie, it always fell on TH to promote it. Then again Loki stans are so vocal and think the movie is all about Loki that Marvel in the past didn't bother pestering Chris to promote it.
4.ch ate my post so I’ll try again:
>>242 Comparing the PopSugar video to last night, his dad has a full head of hair now. At Thor 1 he was balding.
Genetics are fascinating. TH’s older sister has the same blonde hair, big, blue, downturned eyes and smile as he from their mom. Her daughter has the same eyes but with darker hair, of course. Younger sister looks totally different.
>>243 Yes. Unsubstantiated, though.
>>241 The cast did a press panel today and Tom was there, so he's not completely out of the T:R loop. But there are so many possible reasons why he's not nearly as prominent this time around. Me, I find it nice and calming. Now the top articles about him today feature the beard (ex: https://www.gq.com/story/tom-hiddleston-thor-ragnarok-beard ), though saying it makes Tom look "as rugged as Jake Gyllenhaal" isn't much of a compliment in my book....
>>244 I think it depend on how you define movie star looks. I find his somewhat classic, like a Leslie Howard. Also, with TH, a lot depends on the angle from which he's shot. His side profile is pretty near perfect, but in a bad shot straight on, he's all nose and forehead.
>>246 The rumor happened during the T:R reshoots/just before SDCC, I think. It started on LSA with screenshot of a supposed Tumblr post (I'm not an LSA member so I couldn't see the image) that talked about a stalker. Absolutely no other proof than that as far as I've heard.
Guess who is in talks to play Hamlet in a new Brexit-era film for netflix? Tom, not so much. Emmy winner Riz Ahemd! Thrilled for Riz. Still no Shakespeare on the big screen for Tom, yet. Wonder if Tom was in contention for this?
http://deadline.com/2017/10/riz-ahmed-hamlet-shakespeare-netflix-1202189435/
>>248 Good question. I think that thanks to Night Of, Riz is currently a hotter property than Tom, at least over here. (TNM didn't make as much of a splash.) If this happens, it may make it less likely that Tom will do Hamlet onscreen anytime soon, especially with the BBC doing Andrew Scott's version next year. I hope that if Tom wants to get in first with some Shakespearean role he's been eyeing (cough Benedict cough), he does it soon before someone else from his cohort grabs it!
I haven't listened to it, but a summary of the EM interview he did with Masie Williams recently mentioned that he got the EM script in May last year. So that means that (except for Marvel, which was a given, and the mutually-back-scratching RadHam) he hasn't gotten any new projects that we know of in almost 18 months. Gee, wonder what started in May last year that could have affected his career?
Somehow, the EM and T:R promos aren't interesting me (though I'll probably follow EM more when it's closer to release). Anyone else feel that way?
>>249 Yep, I'm not as driven to watch the Thor 3 videos. The rock, paper, scissors cast game was adorable. But overall, I'm happy that Tom is less of a dancing bear through this series of promos. He seems calm, grounded and mature on the red carpet. With that summer PR madness last year, and TS releasing new singles and filming a London-based music video, I think that Tom is content to just talk about the work w his colleagues and not be at the center of some juvenile PR shite storm. And Marvel is not like Legendary with the Kong interviews. Marvel cares way too much about protecting their franchise profits to let reporters ask any personal questions that would distract at all from the agenda of their films. Sadly, I really think that Tom would haven been asked to do at least one late show in the US if not for last summer. And yes, Chris is the hero and Cate is the new villain, but the full Thor 3 cast on a late show together would have been delightful. Would audiences get false impressions about the plot and think that the film was a Loki revenge movie if Tom did any more press? It's not that difficult a concept. BTW, Domhnall Gleeson is on fire landing parts right now w Ex Machina, the Revenant, American Made, Goodbye Christopher Robin and Star Wars. Can Tom steal his agent?!
Non spoiler review of Thor:Ragnarok from Collider. Apparently the film is a balls to the wall comedy, even more so than the Guardians of the Galaxy series. I really don't connect to the humor in the Guardians films, but I love Taika's humour in Boy, Hunt for the Wilderpeople, and WWDITS, so my fingers are crossed for the cast. Apparently Cate doesn't have much screen time, and her section of the film is not the strongest part of the narrative.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=916&v=EjYEhapmkTo
Evening all! Thanks for the Ragnarok links.
I haven't been able to get interested in the publicity material - ironically, given that the movie actually looks good.
On a totally non Thor related note, I did randomly find this though. See page 13 for an article by Tom's sister about her journalistic career. She is very accomplished in her own right. http://www.downehouse.net/downloads/CloistersSpring2015final.pdf
You may all have seen it before - apologies if so, it had passed me by but I thought it was very interesting.
>>251 Still interested in T:R, but I'm so burned out seeing so many reblogs of the spoilers clips that I'm now far more interested in Black Panther.
>>252 That link is new to me. I didn't realize she was so accomplished.
In other news that I'll summarize as much as possible: TS's latest single, 'Gorgeous' - which dropped on Thursday - is about her current bf, Joe. She stated this to some of her fans that she surprise-visited these past couple of weeks. One of them tweeted this info, which I saw, but I don't have a link. In the discussion of the song lyrics, a new timeline has become obvious: she met Joe while with Calvin and started an affair with Joe. She broke up with Calvin, got Joe an invite to the Met Galas, then met and pretended to be interested in Tom. She then dated Tom to cover up the affair, the Kimye stuff, and the sexual groping charges against the DJ. She then breaks up with Tom, waits a several months to reveal that she and Joe had been supposedly dating only since October. At some point between the reveal and the GQ article, Tom probably learned the real timeline of the affair and realized he'd been used. Explains why the tone of the article was more emotional than people thought it would be.
>>253 CORRECTION: not cover up to the sexual groping charges against the DJ, but to distract and deflect away from it.
>>253 I read about this. Apparently she held a listening party for her stans (she has to be the only celebrity I know who actually searches out and spends time with the nutters) and she told them it and other songs were all about Joe. That may or may not be true, but it must be what she wants us to think if she told all the stans.
I also read that she changes the lyrics of her songs, or revises them, before release, which doesn't surprise me as I guess most songs go through several versions before finally being recorded. It's been speculated that she actually wrote this about TH and then tweaked the lyrics to make it about JA. Everything except the "boyfriend who's older than us" line fits the TH analysis, I think. (BTW how infantile is this line? This is a 28 year old woman supposedly hiding in the corner with her new squeeze from someone who is 35...)
>>255>>253 TS wrote Gorgeous about her gf, Karlie Kloss. Karlie Is younger than Calvin. Karlie was at the met ball that night. And that lyric about wanting something that she can't have, is about her not being able to have a public normal relationship with her gf. As T has had public fauxmances with Joe and Tom, that's the only way the lyrics make sense. Joe is literally Karlie without a wig on, it's crazy. They have the same eye shape, too. And if you look at the met ball pics of T and Karlie hugging on the dance floor, and the 4th of July pics of T and Karlie cuddling and holding hands on the waterslide, and the pics of them hugging in their Vogue article body to body, it's kind of obvious. They also wear matching necklaces with initials T and K... I just hope that one day Hollywood can stop with these silly games and let poeple be who they are, and stop promoting these fauxmances for the public.
In much more fun news, Tom was spotted earlier this week at Soho Farmhouse in Oxfordshire, but was back in London by Thursday.
Holy hell, look at the state of this board.
If its an accurate reflection of TH's career then retirement is nigh.
>>257 There's no Kaylors here. I suggest keeping those opinions to where they have nested- in the darkest swamplands of tumblr.
>>256 I'm starting to admire your tenacity.
>>253 This timeline is so confusing and seems much more illogical than <<255. What a shit song though. Her fans must be struggling, as we have been, to heart eye our fav.
Is anyone here looking forward to TR?
I could do with a hearty laugh and according to reviews it delivers so I may go but I'm not champing at the bit.
Not a Kaylor, just someone who thinks that the celebrities who have such controlled media managed images are not at all what they seem (side-eyeing you Joe Jonas and Bradley Cooper), and I have my fingers and toes are crossed that TS's name never comes up on a TH blog again, in the history of time. Period. I've just hit a wall where I can't look any more "accidentally" taken crystal clear professional pics of celebrities who are "loved up" and reportedly are "so in love" just when they just coincidentally require our attention to promote their artistic endeavours.
I enjoyed the intensity and the melodrama of Thor 1 so much. I fear I will not like the humour of Thor 3, since I don't have the best sense of humour, sadly. But the movie is tracking at 98% on Rotten Tomatoes, so I'm not required! I'm most interested in what Tom's next project will be. Will Tom be forced to do more theatre? Will he head over to HBO? Is his team's strategy to assume that he will get praise for Thor 3's success, b/c imo that's not going to work. Maybe he needs to reboot as a character actor in ridiculously small work horse parts like Kevin Bacon did when his career hit the skids, or Colin Farrell, of course. Or maybe he needs another gritty police series, like Wallander, but with him as the lead?
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_ragnarok_2017/
>>258 If Himself isn't going to give us any career news to work with, we're reduced to discussing how much more of an idiot/famewhore/jerk TS has managed to make him look with her latest emission. I think no matter which super-sekret interpretation of this song you pick, it results in TH looking like a total pawn to cover up her affair(s), or someone who hit on a young woman who already had a boyfriend, or TS's beard, or....
>>258, 259 I'm looking forward to TR in the sense that I liked the one movie of Taika's that I've seen (HFTWP) and it will be the first time I can see Tom as Loki on the big screen. But I have the niggling sense, despite his best assurances in PR that this won't be warmed-over meatloaf, that it will be pretty much Loki as we've seen him before. (I've been trying to avoid full reviews, but the tweets from the press preview generally agreed that Valkyrie is the breakout star of this one, while ignoring Loki. Shades of KSI and "Tom Hiddleston was fine." Zzzzzzzzzz.)
So if his team is relying on TR for a big career boost, I agree that's not likely. (It's the fourth time he's played the role, people, with at least one more round to go!) I hope his US team is working hard on finding him one of the really choice projects that the streaming services are doing these days.
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>>258 I read this as "look at the state of this beard." I couldn't agree more!
As regards the board, it's still a fun place to hang out, but that loooong since ceased to have a great deal to do with TH. I have this feeling that if we all met up in a bar and he walked in, we'd look up from our drinks and say, "yeah whatever" before carrying on with our own conversation!
I still have hope that he will throw us a bone, but in the meantime TS is all we got. That woman has a lot to answer for.
>>260 I read that as "TH looking like a total prawn"
All this discussion of 'his team'. There's so little going on I don't think he's had an active team for a while. Certainly not a marketing team aside from a chaperone to openings. The last attempt to resurrect his image was the GQ article in which he came across as a wet sock. I think his agents have him on the disaster sleeper file and by the looks of his beard and visible foundation line, even his Hollywood groomer has been ditched.
I have no doubt that if any offers of leads in HBO/ Netflix shows came in he would dry hump the producers' leg so the offers are likely coming as bit parts and shit parts if at all. Maybe he's so traumatised he's retired from the public, only to perform in small, inaccessible and unreviewable theatre shows.
Maybe a future awaits in childrens content, riding on the success of TR and a brand new tidal wave of pre- pubescent fans or a Galaxy Quest- esque bitter retirement at eternal comic cons as a visibly ageing god.
I certainly don't expect him to emerge from his mancave or throw bones until the album drop blows over.
Great video of Tom being interviewed onset of Thor 3 at minute 17:24 by children in Australia affiliated with the children's hospital! He dances and beat boxes. If keeps the kids happy, I'm for it, I guess. Chris is interviewd just before that. And their joint visit to the hospital is covered at the beginning of the video.
Alive!
At a gala opening of a new theatre. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2389079577984841&id=2162417180651083&set=pcb.2389081281318004&source=48&refid=13&__tn__=%2B%3D
>>262 I almost typed "prawn" as I was writing that!
This article about Fassbender has been making the rounds: http://observer.com/2017/10/michael-fassbender-snowman-assassins-creed-movie-star/
If its final theory is true (which I'm not at all sure it is), movie actors are damned if they do, damned if they don't. The article swipes at TH for HS, but then asks if perhaps Fassy isn't a star because the public knows so little about him. Too bad it doesn't dig into the effects of poor project choices....
So apparently it seems that Tom has gotten a puppy. A fan met him with the puppy and tweeted about it (and from the tweets it sounds like she was stalking him with dedication) The tweets are in Italian but the all the tweets pertaining to the puppy and Tom and their translation can be found on the Crazy Smart one's blog. Fandom discussion is currently at #Tomsettlingdown level. He was with a lady friend so it's a combination of everything.
Now are Taylor and her new bf going to get papped with a puppy because of this? Oh no it'll be with her cats and it'll be an IG story moment. She's currently knee deep among her Tumblr fans so I'm sure she's gotten wind. If there were pics of Tom and puppy, then the IG story with bf and cats might already be in pre-production but since it's all tweets maybe she won't...it's Taylor though, Miss Must Outshine My Exes.
It's his emotional support dog. It may also be giving him career advice.
Apparently it is a cocker spaniel puppy and it's 9 weeks old. He said last year when he was promoting ISTL that he wanted a dog but didn't have time because of all the travelling. I guess now he has time. I am glad for him, no snark intended. There isn't much point doing a high pressure highly paid job for years on end if the net result is that it makes it impossible for you to enjoy the fruits of your success.
>>267 Read some of the posts about it. I must have missed the part where it said that he was with a lady friend. But yay for getting a cute Spaniel. Settling down (for the moment) must feel good.
In the same way I doubted the cat was his when mentioned in a 'reputable' magazine, I'll wait for a confirmation of his new status as a pet owner.
I think he said in that interview that he didn't have pets because it wouldn't be fair on them since he was away so much. If the pup is that age, he was thinking about getting it before or during the Hamlet run. Long days of rehearsal, performance days and thoughts of upcoming promo wouldn't inspire a sensible person to get a dog. Especially if he was hoping Hamlet would bring the scripts and work in.
But then sometimes it's hard to resist a puppy. Still I'll wait for print or photo confirmation. I hope it's a spread in Horse and Hound. I hope they get Taffy to do it. I hope he mentions how he and Taylor talked about getting a puppy before the cruel paps/public/media drove them apart and crushed their totally real, not staged love.
Enjoy your extra hour, everyone. Side note: children don't recognize parents' right to an extra hour of sleep. Each day is a lesson.
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>>269, >>271 Apparently some asked the tweeter if the puppy was Tom's, and she replied that she didn't know. (It could have belonged to the woman who was with him.) I think's Anon's point about taking time to enjoy what his success has brought him is a very good one, but I wonder if he's really learned that lesson yet. I have trouble believing that's he'll give up his hard driving approach to his career once the offers start coming in again. (As a recovering workaholic myself, I know that it can be hard not to fall back into old habits!)
There's an Italian style magazine coming out with a new issue on Wed. that has a stop-in-your-tracks beautiful (I'd have said gorgeous, but...) picture of Tom on the cover. Per Google, the headline with it translates roughly to "Do Not Ask Me Anymore" and the teaser blurb refers to him as "an English actor of great elegance and few words (don’t even think about mentioning Taylor Swift!" So we may see another war-of-wills with an interviewer.
The preview isn't up on their site (http://style.corriere.it/) anymore , but the info is on the Crazy Intelligent one's and other tumblrs. Worth a peek just for the groomed-version-of-RADAHam-look picture, IMO.
Tom and Tessa Thompson talk Thor 3 w Collider on Action sequences
http://collider.com/tessa-thompson-tom-hiddleston-interview-thor-ragnarok/
>>272 The cover I was talking about: https://twitterDOTcom/snehzfatema1999/status/925054589623181312
Spotted on I think Thursday on the set of the latest Avengers movie. Maybe the career isn't as moribund as we had feared. Torrilla has pics.
PS had the server for the board been weird for a few days?
>>276 It's not known if it was for IW reshoots or A4, though. Apparently both are filming at the same time.
The sever has been acting up; this is the first time I've been able to get on in a few days.
Against better judgement but with a wildly still high tomato-meter reading, I went along to see Thor. It was a genuine blast! Tom's Marvel payday will keep him in puppy-food for a long time to come..
>>276>>277 Yep, the server has been acting up for two days.
Sidenote, remember how I said that Tom should emulate Jeremy Irons' career path, and I mentioned a film he did called "M Butterfly" where a 1930s french diplomat falls in love with a beautiful chinese opera singer who is secretly a man? Well, Clive Owen stole my idea for Tom, and he is currently leading the "M Butterfly" revivial on Broadway. If Clive wins a Tony nomination or an award, Tom, that was your show.
Just saw Thor 3 last night! It was thoroughly enjoyable. Wickedly funny, very much of Taika Waititi's style. First off, Tom was elegant and mischievous, as usual. But this wasn't Loki's story. Someone said that the Loki character is like the Jack Sparrow character in the POTC films. His character burst out completely realized and as a fan favourite, and now there isn't anywhere else to go with his story arch. Taika as a director is great at comedy and world building. And he's esp good at character interactions and exploring the fun ways they can contrast with other characters. The Thor/Hulk scenes rocked. And the the Dr. Strange/Asgard boys scene was hilarious as well. Jeff Goldblum was a hoot. But, the action sequences could have been much much better. And overall, I thought that the film lacked emotional gravitas and mythology. Some unrevokable tragic events occur, and they didn't resonate the way they should have with the audience, they just kind of breezed by. In the director's aim to lighten the tone of the Thor series, the film was tonally inconsistent overall, and it seemed like they didn't know how how to transition from the humour to the more grave moments, as Branagh did in Thor 1.
I also saw T:R this afternoon. I enjoyed it, though >>279 Sosorry is correct that it's not a Loki story at all. (I think more could have been done with his arc if they hadn't moved Thor's character past caring much about him. I missed that emotional connection and tension between the two of them, which to me are what made at least Thor I more than a comic book movie. Here their relationship is mostly played for laughs.) Tom gets to do more comedy, but that's about it for character development.
Lots of funny moments, I thought the smaller fights scenes were good, and there were a few beautifully imagined and realized big moments (Valkyrie's back story, for example). But to me, it didn't hang together as a "Thor must save his homeworld" epic story. (It also didn't help that I didn't find Hela to be nearly as convincing a villain as Loki. I thought a little of her went a long way.) It was so busy, with so many characters, that it was hard to care much about any of them or what happened to them in the end. Thor 1 is still my favorite of the Thor films, I'm afraid, because as Sosorry pointed out, Branagh handled the balance of epic and comic skillfully.
Article referencing why Marvel didn't require Tom to do promo for Thor 3. And that maybe with a built-in fan base and a strong social media campaign presence, Marvel just doesn't need to pay for actors to fly round the world first class in order to plug their films. The comments are always fun.
New Early Man trailer and article here: http://people.com/movies/watch-new-trailer-early-man-creators-wallace-gromit/
So apparently that DeNiro imitation paid off for Tom! (Though the typo in the sentence makes it even funnier....)
Track titles from TS's album include "This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things," which sounds as if it's taken from the TH nannies' lament about other fans criticizing Tom and "driving him off" social media. Prepare for fandown meltdown in 3 - 2 - 1....\\
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbN9rHVH0bo/?taken-by=taylorswift
THids did get a puppy. Torilla has pics up. It's a really cute pup! Maybe it'll help him land better roles? lol Just joking. But it really is a very cute puppy. Tom looks his usual self in his usual uniform plus his grey hoodie and that black coat.
Well, TH must be expecting the worst from TS's album drop, because he did a pap stroll with The Puppy! Pix are on Torilla's and various of the Tom tumblrs (sorry, my phone isn't letting me link).
>>284>>285 Puppy pics below! Adorable dog. Tom looks like he is cradling his new pet for its dear life. He needs the unconditional emotional support, I think. Not sure if I buy his cold hard stare-down at the paps, since this looks like a planned pap walk. Am I glad that Tom's not hiding from the album drop? Am I wary that people will link his new photos to infantile pop song lyrics, and compare his puppy pics to you know who's eventual pap walk her new new fauxbeau, Joe Alwyn? Its a puzzlement. The bottom line is that I want more drama from Tom on stage and screen, and less drama in real life.
TH and puppy pics
http://hiddleston-daily.tumblr.com/
>>286 His puppy is really cute. I love those eyes, so frickin adorable! Perhaps he did get the puppy to ward off all the negativity he'd been feeling post-Hiddleswift. How much you wanna bet Swift will try to incorporate her own pets into her pap walk with Joe? Her album doesn't release until tomorrow but I saw the lyrics to two of her songs from a bootlegged copy which seem to say she admits to using Tom but also laying the blame for it squarely on his shoulders. I've never been good at interpreting Taylor Swift sings because tbh they sound super high school and I can never tell who she's singing about. Even right now with the supposed Tom song, the lyrics read very high school angst to me. I guess that's her thing though.
So, Anon., a couple of weeks ago you said, wisely, "he was thinking about getting it before or during the Hamlet run. Long days of rehearsal, performance days and thoughts of upcoming promo wouldn't inspire a sensible person to get a dog."
We conclude from this that....?!!!!
BTW he is back in London. Street furniture in the full length pics shows, at right, a TFL bus stop. So he was probably filming (??) pickups for the last Avengers film. Doesn't necessarily mean he won't be in the next one but as Heynon pointed out, not a given from being in Atlanta.
PS he looks very cute with the dog, but gosh that is a thousand yard stare.
PPS has he had highlights? The hair looks suddenly a lot blonder again, though there seems to be a filter on the pics making it hard to tell.
PPPS dog was called Bobby, I think.
>>288 I assumed the hair looked lighter because he washed it lol I'm sorry but his long curls looked very unwashed during the Thor3 promos (he looked unwashed but that's mostly because of the same sweater and jeans combo every single time), looked like either natural hair oil buildup or lots of hair product to tame the curls. You could be right that it's most likely a filter.
I do like the pap walk with the pup. I'm feeling it. Wiser decision than being papped with a girlfriend, considering Miss Pop Star is about to do one this weekend with her boyfriend.
>>289 Yes, I know exactly what you mean. He looked grubby - I don't like the long hair and unkempt beard combo. You can have one but not the other. Or you can be Jason Momoa but nobody else.
In these photos he looks a lot better - same clothes but cleaner somehow. Not like he picked them off the floor but maybe like he washed and ironed them.
So is the pup a sign that he has settled down with a GF - or the sign of a man who is perennially single and has a dog to keep him company? Second question - does he let the dog sleep in the bed (you know he does! He wears the same jeans 4876 days running!)
>>290 I think he just got a puppy because he wanted one, not because he's got a girlfriend. Based on previous observations, I'd say he's still single. He usually dresses better when he's with someone. Like when he was with JA, EO, and TS, he put some effort and kept himself clean and his clothes varied a bit even if it was between 3-4 of the same outfits. Right now it looks like he's not making any effort at all. He probably looks a little clean right now because he was working up until recently. I won't be surprised if the beard and unwashed curls come back.
>>290 I think the more important question is does the puppy want to sleep in his human's bed considering hygiene issues? Please for the love of all that's sanitary, let this man be keeping his house clean and doing his laundry.
>>291 Yeah, I am not getting a "settling down with my gf" puppy feel. More like, I will never work abroad long term again so at least I can enjoy owning a dog.
I am definitely getting an "I did a pap stroll with my puppy" feel though. Am I too cynical?
>>292 I bet it is a slum. He is single and 36 and straight. He said something once about doing his own cleaning (!!). My personal experience is that men falling into this category change the sheets only when hoping for sex.
OMG! The press has reported that Tom has finally moved on from TS b/c he has been spotted cuddling with a beautiful brunette, his puppy! Tee hee! Don't let the bstards get you down Tom! Snuggle with little Bobby and dream of storming the Oscar stage one day, after all of this nonsense has subsided.
https://www.thecut.com/2017/11/tom-hiddleston-puppy-london.html
>>286, >>288 Yes, that "I don't see the paps, I just happen to be giving the icy blue glare of death" face isn't convincing. Especially since he's wearing his glasses and should be able to see at a distance.
>>288 Since he was first spotted with the pup a couple of weeks ago when it was only 8 weeks old, he might have been thinking about getting it while he was doing Hamlet, but didn't take the plunge until after the run of the play. (I wonder if no good offers materialized at that point and he just said the hell with it and got the dog.)
>>288, >>289 I think the photos were filtered or edited to be lighter than real life to keep the dog from looking too dark to see its details. If you look at Tom and the bystanders, they all look a bit washed out. And his hair can really change color depending on how much product is in it. (I think it's mostly product, not unwashed-hair oil, because his hair is so unruly that only heavy product will keep it in place. At the LA T:R premiere, when he walked away from the two interviewers, his hair was flying up at the back even though he had a ton of goop in it!) >>290 Agree that he wasn't well groomed during the T:R promo; at the very least, the beard needed a good trim.
>>292 Well, dogs love to roll in the stinkiest things they can find, so Bobby is probably fascinated when Tom has all sorts of "good" smells....
>>293 Anon, you are not too cynical! I even wondered for a second if this was a rented dog.
>>294 And sometimes those men don't even change the sheets when they have hopes (ewwwwwww).
>>287 I want to see TS and the new toy boy carrying some of her cats on the pap stroll!
After skimming through all the album lyrics, it seems that one song is all about Tom (Getaway Car), one song disses both him and Calvin (I Did Something Bad), and a couple of others also reference them both ("older men," "Land Rovers and Jaguars"). See https://genius.com/albums/Taylor-swift/Reputation
The weirdest bit, though, is the Prologue (https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-reputation-prologue-lyrics). Who is she blaming because her "heartbreaks have been used as entertainment"?!
That chick is a piece of work.
>>293 Considering what a mess Hollywood currently is, it might be a good idea for him to steer clear. Way too much instability going on currently. Going after the usual biggies for roles is kinda moot at this point.
>>296 Yeah, I wouldn't mind rolling around in some Tom myself ;) (provided he bathes first and changes his sheets)
>>297 oh boy that prologue is tone deaf af. She creates her own "reputation" and then writes a thesis on it, blaming others? And she's touting the whole "people show different sides of themselves to different people" spiel that most of us learned back when we were in our teens. I remember my friend used to have it in his AIM profile back in high school because he was trying to all deep and get laid. She is definitely the garden variety case of arrested development with a nice generous serving of narcissism.
>>296 To get a pedigree pup in the UK you usually have to say you want a pup while mum is pregnant, or when the pups are tiny. Friends of mine have often gone to see the litter when the pups are 4 weeks old to choose which one they want. They then pick it up some weeks later when it is old enough to leave mum. I don't think this is a spur of the moment thing. If the dog was 9 weeks old when the stalker saw him 2 weeks ago it was born in late August and he probably committed to it during or just after the Hamlet run.
And the dailymail has an article with Tom dancing at the Met Ball, and wearing the heart tank top on the July 4th party, and with TS in Australia, alongside the Getaway Car lyrics. No puppy pics so far. At least the article mentioned that Tom had been formerly private before in his lifestyle. Their entire PR relationship was geared toward selling this album with this gross narrative, as we predicted as soon as we saw the staged beach photos in Rhode Island. The comments are great. The general public isn't buying into any of this silliness. Bonnie never left Clyde in a motel bar, b/c they were actual parters and she was the only member of his gang that he trusted implicitly! And they never saw each other again after the LA dinner at Hillstone. I'm just glad that Thor 3 is not mentioned, and that the DM didn't link the article to Vanity Fair's article featuring Tom as Clyde Barrow w Felicity Jones.
>>299 Ah, I didn't know that timing for reserving a puppy. Still, he probably knew even then that he wouldn't be doing much promo for T:R or filming in Atlanta in this round. So this probably was the best time for him to take the puppy plunge. And a good thing too, because those pix are currently above the many, many Reputation articles in his search results.
I wonder if his nicer-than-normal uniform in those pix is because those were the newer versions of his standards that were bought for Hamlet? The hoodie looks almost new.
Awww, puppy's first pap stroll. :(
>>288 It says he's not sensible. As to cynicism, let us remember that this is a man who pap strolled with his mother, sister and young niece in order to legitimize a blatantly faux relationship. Would he get a dog to have something cute to deflect from Tayto-become-music? I do not doubt that he would. He pretended to be in a relationship with someone for exposure. What's a dog compared to that? How's that for cynical!
I don't think it's a rent-a-dog but I suspect it will be off to his mother's the moment a job comes through.
>>299 Same in the US. You will often put down a payment when the mother is pregnant and then follow through with the rest of the fee if the gender/health of the pup meets expectations. This is the timeline I was thinking of when I wrote about the circumstances in which he was considering pet ownership.
Is he nesting or co-parenting the pup with someone? I don't know. He's always seemed a playboy/serial dater to me, two/three on the go, as casual as causal could be. That doesn't change overnight. So while I don't doubt he's 'seeing someone' I don't think she's become a new puppy mommy.
Besides it's only been nine months since the GQ article. He still mending a broken heart.
Gossip Cop response from Team Tom below.
>>304 Yep. Tom is too naive to run in the media games of Hollywood. Unlke Calvin Harris who wasn't afraid to clap back by not only defending his song cowriting and producing skills on his Rihanna song with TS, but tweeted that TS controls all of the media and that TS fans who want to believe a fictional sanitized version of TS exist in real life, just need to grow up, and then he claimed his phone had been stolen! Ha! Ballsy.
Team Tom's response to the TS album on gossip cop. Stating that no one close to him comments to the press about any of his feelings, or knows his opinions on the album. That he respects art in general, doesn't assume that any of the songs on the album are about him at all, and art is open to interpretation. And that their "brief relationship" ended over a year ago. Mature. Sad that the minions crave petty drama over grown up statements. Can't wait to talk about what happens in Tom's career, next!
https://www.gossipcop.com/tom-hiddleston-reaction-taylor-swift-new-album-lyrics/
Oddly, I am currently eating in the Santa Monica location of Hillstone restaurant, where Tom and TS had their last interaction in their fauxmance. FYI, lots of families enjoying the holiday eating burgers and fries, and no paparazzi in sight : )
Why does Lainey hate TH so much?
>>307 B/c Lainey is in the pockets of Team TS. And she gives Lainey, People, US magazine, and Rolling stone scoops. And they get a lot of TS fans to click to their online sights b/c of her. TS is just like most other young artists today. They worked hard, wrote a few good songs by themselves as youngsters, and now they have teams of songwriters and gossip rags, and a even a few newspapers editors who inflate the ratings of their new albums, in their pockets to help ensure their success. So much money is used to promote their careers that they are too big to fail. That line about Tom being too thirsty for PR was always her strategy to hurt Tom. Sad that he wasn't wise enough to stay the heck away from PR relationships in Hollywood, b/c you have to be reality tv star, or young pop star greedy/catty/petty and capable of lying well, to survive them intact. The puppy pap walk has been used by Affleck and Liv Schreiber in their post relationship PR battles, so it was a bit of a tired move from his team. Tom's absence from Marvel Thor 3 promotion was part of Marvel's plan to spend less money flying and housing actors first class around the world, and instead rely on a very controlled social media campaign and their established fan base to increase their profits. If Marvel had wanted Tom for more PR, he couldn't have gotten out of it, if he was contractually obligated to be there.
From a gossip column in today's Times:
"Tom Hiddleston’s diary is enough to make the most hardened workaholic feel like a slacker. The actor has just played Hamlet on stage, and, even though his latest film, Thor: Ragnarok, is still in cinemas, he is already working on the fourth Avengers flick. So it’s little wonder that he wants to escape the rat race. My mole tells me Hiddleston, 36, is ditching London for the country, and has his eye on pads in East Sussex. He’d feel right at home — his Thor co-star Cate Blanchett has a 13-acre pile in Crowborough."
Here's the link: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/new-homes-for-tom-hiddleston-and-taylor-swift-dzgvmf8bv
Personally I think Suffolk is more likely, as E Sussex is a long way from both parents (Suffolk and Oxford respectively). Maybe it's an error/mishearing, or maybe deliberate misinformation.
If you want to live near coffee shops and cinemas, East Sussex basically means Brighton, so any home there would also still be very public, and maybe even a bit more so as it is a bit of a small town. He'd have privacy if he goes for a true country pad - but that seems unlikely for a coffee-addicted single man, even with a dog.
>>310 Probably could be buying a country home instead of uprooting from London altogether. I don't think his acting ambitions have changed so I don't see him leaving London. A country home is more space for his growing puppy and also provides a quiet place for him from his constantly stalking fans that hang around his neighborhood.
I know his nanny fans are saying this move signals him settling down and we'll hear engagement news soon but I wonder if he's simply just buying a country home to enjoy some time away at. The purchase makes sense with the money his two movies made this year. Usually actors start expanding their real estate when they come into a steady stream of cash from their blockbuster franchises. Some they keep for themselves, some are investments and they rent them out etc.
Taffy Akner, authoress of the much debated TH GQ article, expresses her twitter feelings of why people supposedly like the petty music of Taylor Swift. Taffy knows how to self-promote, my gosh!
Taffy Brodesser-AknerVerified account @taffyakner 4h4 hours ago
A friendly reminder that we only recognize Taylor Swift's pettiness and sensitivity because we share it.
A friendly, sweeping and therefore undoubtedly flawed reminder. Thanks, Taff.
>>312, >>313 And in other Taffy/TH news, who should be interviewed on a podcast and say more about Tom and the "mystery brunette" DM story but Ms. TA: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/write-about-now/id1286555942?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
Apparently he called her after the pap pix came out: "He called me up. And he said, “I see what’s going on. I’m so sorry, I would like to apologize to your husband. I meant… I hope you understand, he understands there’s no disrespect, and I am horrified. And I can only imagine what you’re going through.” And I said, “Tom. This has been the best week of my life. Like, we should try to enjoy this more. This is amazing. Please, do not shut it down, I am really enjoying this.” "
Hers may be the longest 15 minutes of fame evah.
Two articles below from The Hollywood Reporter. The first says that AMC, the Ink Factory, and the BBC have greenlit John le Carre's The Little Drummer Girl, and mentions how successful TNM was, worldwide. The Night Manager 2 is mentioned in the second link, and it is still in early development, apparently. Methinks that idea needs not to happen. Tom should think like Elsa in Frozen and Let it Go. The second article talks about why limited series shows are given additional seasons. That's obvious. Avarice and greed.
>>316 Also, as one exec quoted in the 2nd article says, "It’s easier to expand an existing brand than to create one in the first place." In other words, lack of originality or desire to take risks, also known as fear of losing money and face.
Here is the Sir Kenneth Branagh "Happy Sad Confused" podcast with Josh Horowitz on MTV. He talks about casting Thor 1, Tom, and Chris Hemsworth at 23 minutes, and his 4 hour film production of Hamlet w Kate Winslet, Julie Christie, etc. Apparently Sir Ken might star in a version of Macbeth directed by Martin Scorsese. If so, Tom should try to nab a part in that film. Fassbender already mucked it up. I'm determined that someone has to be the first actor to win an OScar for a Shakespearean performance since Olivier for Halmet in 1949.
http://www.mtv.com/news/podcasts/happy-sad-confused/kenneth-branagh/
Taffy B-A returns to the Hiddlecow to milk yet more from her one interview!
I am beginning to think she called the paps herself.
Apparently Hiddleston, Coleman, and co are in negotations for The Night Manager 2. Hmm... I do not like this. There is no more night to manage. Period. Unless they have someone of JJ Abrams levels of imagination and innovation to build a new story, and an award winning writer to spin a tale like his life depended on it, I would be truly concerned.
>>321 It sounded to me like the same stuff that various people from the first series have been saying for a while: "it will only be done if it can be the same quality as the first one...." I suspect this will never come to pass, because by the time they can develop something really good, the director and major cast members will have other commitments. (Unless they do "The Night Manager - 10 Years After," hee hee.)
One of the major cast members might not have any commitments....
Maybe he's decided to stick with the proven over the uncertain. From now on he'll only do Marvel movies, ticket-balloted Shakespeare plays with three week runs and Night Manager sequels...and pap walks with puppies, never fake girlfriends or GQ writers.
Dicks out for Taffy.
>>323 So can we call it now? Is he officially a Has-Been? One-Hit Wonder?
My oh my! Kenneth Branagh might be signing on to direct and star in another Poirot detective film, Death on the Nile! Tom must grab the starring role of Simon Doyle, who may be a victim of a heinous crime, or the murderer, himself. The story is about a gruesome love triangle that develops between a wealthy heiress, her brand new dashingly handsome and previously impoverished husband (hopefully Tom), and his heartbroken ex fiancee. It all takes place on a paddle steamer traveling down the Nile, and someone ends up dead. I think a handsomely made, well cast period ensemble piece, would be a good fit for him. Or, Tom should head to France and grab Isabelle Hupert for a steamy french thriller. A May-December romance film with her would rock!
And we have a cornucopia of puppy-walking photos with Tom and Bobby! They are strolling in the park with Tom's Hamlet costar, noted playwright/actress Lolita Chakrabarti (who played Gertrude), who is married to the phenomenal thespian Adrian Lester. Lester starred in Branagh's 1930's set film jukebox musical production of Shakespeare's "Love's Labour's Lost" featuring Alicia Silverstone (embarrassingly.)
>>326 You beat me to it! I wonder if Ms. C is the one holding Bobby's leash because Tom was waving his hands around too much and confusing the pup? Also, that dog has huge paws!
>>327 And now, apparently Lolita Chakrabarti's nickname is Bobbie! So maybe Tom was talking to Lolita in the coffee shop w his new puppy, and his puppy's name is yet, unknown. What a mystery. Let's protect the privacy of the puppy as it begins to navigate the pernicious eyes the celebrity press.
I think Lolita Chakrabarti is Tom's current Ken B. She was pictured next to him at that theater opening and she is a producer/ playwright. Since he's having trouble landing movies right now, he's most likely aiming at plays. Could be they are working on a project together and pitching it together looking fir investors. Would explain them hanging out. I think it's all professional. Unless she's left her husband and holy scandal THids, being the other dude again? Jk, I highly doubt it.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone Stateside! 🦃
We don't get the day off and the turkey but thank you for giving the UK some extra sales for our Christmas shopping!!
Thank you Anon. I don't know about anyone else, but I ate well.
>>328 So it appears that the pupper is called Bobby/Bobbie (spelling is not confirmed) according to one of a number of twitter users running into TH on the street (once with BC and SH over the weekend) or on the Tube.
from @angelasargeant1: https://twitter
.com/angelasargeant1/status/935613051537063937
Avengers IW trailer w an intense shot of Loki/Tom holding the tesseract. Is it odd that I enjoy the stand alone films much more than the Avenger group efforts?
Okay, The Night Manager 2 officially has a writer, Matthew Orton. His resume seems rather limited on imdb.com Is a sequel really necessary? Not really sure what I'm hoping will happen with this project. Haven't read a word about Ben Wheatley's Hard-Boiled adaptation, in a whole year.
http://deadline.com/2017/11/matthew-orton-the-night-manager-1202216478/
>>333 The production keeps saying it's going to be a slowly developing project so they probably need to figure out the direction they want to take season 2 in. I mean if they're lucky it could turn out to be a successful season 2. If not then ouch. Also, is Tom even attached to s2? It doesn't sound like he's been signed on yet. He said he'd consider it, definitely not a confirmation.
I couldn't even finish the first season tbh. The writing and direction and character building weren't really my thing. I could barely make it to the end of ep2. So it's safe to say I won't be tuning in to a s2. But just because something isn't my taste doesn't mean it's not a good show/ movie.
Does Orton have a twitter? Watch for the telltale follow from TH. That's as good an indication that he's involved as a snap of the actual contract.
Is it necessary? No. But looks like they'll do it. As has been mentioned: the greenback talks.
I would guess that, if asked, he'd do it. He doesn't seem to be drowning in work, and it's really his main claim to fame - besides for Marvel and Tayto. Even if it's crap, he'll do it. Mainly because he can't tell the difference between good and bad, and because his talent will overcome all failings of plot, plan and script, e.g., ISTL, Shit Island, Tayto....
>>332 Not odd at all. The first time I watched Avengers I, I found it rather overwhelming with all the characters. I found Age of Ultron confusing and boring, and I haven't made myself watch Civil War yet. I think IW and A4 have "hot mess" potential.
>>333, >>334 Re Hard Boiled, I vaguely remember seeing something in the last few months where Wheatley joked about having resumed working on the script.
I did make it through TNM's first season, but it was hard going for the last few episodes when it got so ridiculous. In some ways, they might be better off with original material for a second season.
>>335 With KSI, it turns out that what he probably was pitched by Legendary during the CP shoot was not what Warner wanted in the final script - see this from the screenwriter: https://screenrant.com/kong-skull-island-characters-deleted-backstory/. It does explain why he seems miscast or overacting in that role.
It's a pity that TH didn't claim "creative differences" and bail at that point. Instead, he'll be best known as the eye candy/T-shirt model for that film: https://decider.com/2017/11/25/kong-skull-island-on-hbo-indulge-in-the-glorious-objectification-of-tom-hiddleston/
As for giving him leading man cred, KSI just started running on HBO over here, and TV Guide (sort of the equivalent of Radio Times) listed him fourth in its cast list!
Big news - we have confirmation that the pup (HiddlesBob? BobSton?) is his: https://www.facebook.com/groups/jgballardandart/permalink/602027433476714/
I do like that he asked this J.G. Ballard scholar to emphasise to her students "that he wasn’t eating his dog"!
So I step away from the board for a week and you all get busy posting!
>>334 I bought the series on iTunes planning to rewatch on a long flight earlier this year, as a lot of the episodes had been watched over dinner, in a slight rush etc. I had enjoyed it but I thought I’d give it a better chance to concentrate on it. Big mistake. It was so lumpen, and TH’s performance felt positively wooden. I didn’t make it to the end of Ep 2. I was surprised how badly it stood up to a second watch.
>>338 KSI I also bought to watch on the same trip. Didn’t make it half way through. I thought it was dreadful. Do you remember the stories about other talent (principally Michael Keaton) bailing, and TH hanging on like a limpet? I guess those rewrites might have had something to do with it.
>>332 I never much liked the Avengers movies. Film-making by numbers. Latest one looks highly derivative of a Lord of the Rings movie. Lots of CGI orc type creatures stormin a castle. Ok.
And I haven’t seen Ragnarok. I am a bad fan!
>>340 Tbh, I was very surprised when Susanne Bier won for best directing. She did a respectable job on TNM but best? I'm not sure...I did try to give TNM another chance but the whole thing felt so stiff and cliche to me. Sorry to all those who loved TNM but I couldn't get into it. Though Tom looked amazingly hot in it. No arguments there. I loved looking at the stills and short TV spots from it lol
>>335 That's what I'm wondering. Unless he's matured a bit, he probably will sign up for it even if it's a shit script. I really hope he doesn't pull an ISTL 2.0 with this.
>>344 You've answered your own question, Sosorry. He starred in two franchises, with tons of other people, and he didn't stand out. In Kong JCR was the stand out according to most critics. In Thor it was Tessa Thompson. So he wasn't responsible for that money and won't benefit directly from that box office success. The TNM splashed in the UK but barely bubbled in the US, again little benefit to him. His GG was tarnished slightly by his speech but more by the fact that every other major award went to Vance and TPvOJ (and rightly so) while TNM swept the GGs in the major acting categories; the win seemed more like an anomaly. And Hamlet...to 25 people.
I don't know where he is career wise but my goodness this is some drought.
I liked TNM. It lagged at times, was wholly improbable both in plot and details - knowing even a little about military hardware makes that shopping list he photocopies pure comedy gold - but it was entertaining. TH himself was too. There were some hammy moments and that chuckle was the stuff of nightmares, but it was a solid performance.
But the show and TH pale in comparison to other series in that season. That's the problem with it for me. There were times when I watched TPvOJ and just knew that I was watching performance/script perfection. Vance and Brown's courtroom scenes about race and Mark Fuhrman were masterful. I never had those same feelings when watching TNM, not even with Coleman's 'sports day' scene - and I'd just written a paper on the use of chemical weapons.
When the creative team talks about not doing a second series unless it is as good as the first, all I can think is, 'Could you not do a second series unless it's better than the first?'
>>340, >>344 Having re-watched KSI recently when it came on HBO (OK, I mostly had it on in the background), I found to be one of those "it's so bad I have to watch it for the unintended humor" flicks. The stilted acting, for example, is thanks to the even more stilted dialogue!
>>344 I agree about what Tom was trying to do in TNM; in the book, LeCarre calls Pine the "close observer." And that is damn hard to pull off onscreen. I think someone on this board said that maybe a Mark Rylance or Alec Guinness could have done it, but Tom isn't there yet.
>>344, >>345, >>346 I'm hoping he's talking to people like Lolita C. for advice about getting into producing. I gather Ben C. has created a fair amount of his own work by optioning a work, producing it, and casting himself. And I hope Tom stays open to doing more TV; over here at least, that's where a lot of the interesting projects are happening.
A side effect of the new puppy is that it may be easier to track when he's in London. A lot of sightings are being posted. Wonder if he's disconcerted the pup is drawing people to him, or that people are paying more attention to the pup than to its owner?
I'm a bit scared to post this but it's too good not to.
I just did a job with an old friend who worked on TR. She couldn't stand Tom. Called him a ponce. Said he constantly bragged about being the next Bond and whinged about the hot sun. Not a bad word was said about anyone else, except some erratic steroid induced mood fluctuations from the lead. I've always agreed with her opinions on people.
She even lurched into imitating his whiny voice and I cringed. I cringed hard.
Hi Anonon! Thanks for sharing. Steroid induced mood fluctuations, ha ha!
Interesting news re our friend. The party line has always been that he is delightful in every way. I wonder whether that was a line or whether the Tayto situation got to him. Also interested though not surprised re Bond - we have always known on this board he wanted it hard. Hard enough it seems not to have let the dream go even though by TR shooting I think there had been stories about Barbara Broccoli saying no way because he had made such a tit of himself.
The old posh English charm often doesn't go down well with Australians. There was a lot of head shaking and screwing up of her face with utmost displeasure. Could be Tayto induced but seemed more of a general disposition. In terms of the party line, let's just say this person hears much more than anyone else on set and most crew are very tight lipped about gossip. I am being very very bad. Hope this doesn't bite me in the arse
>>348 I believe it. He dated Taylor Swift after all. There had to be some common ground there.
>>350 I don't think it's Tayto induced. I think it's part of his normal personality. It really showed during his earlier Thor 1 interviews but he learned to reign it in after that.
>>352 Do you mean those very old interviews where he was joking about having Moljnr in his pants? I don’t recall many from those days (pre fandom..!)
I could believe every word of this “tea” except him bragging about being the next Bond. He wouldn’t brag about it unless the contract has been signed already. He wanted it too badly to risk jinxing it. I could see him downplaying his interest/hopes of playing Bond for fear of losing yet another role after casting, or being bitter after finding out that DC will continue as Bond, but bragging, no.
Your friend should have kept her tea simpler. The man has been several time to Africa and visited his sister in India often enough when she lived there, he would never whine about the hot sun.
This board posters are so Tayto induced now, they can't even spot bullshit anymore, you are as reliable as Toby.
>>353 No, I was talking about the ones from Comic Con 2010. The one on one interviews where he's sitting with a group of reporters. I think he says the pole dancing line in it. You can see glimpses of that guy Anonon's friend was taking about. Though I do think he might have been bragging more about how everyone keeps calling him the new Bond rather than saying he is the new Bond, just because it's a set and ppl know ppl.
>>354 >>355 You sound like a recent lurker more than an old time visitor of the board and probably have no idea about Anonon. No wonder you are quick to disregard everything. Even though what she said isn't really that damning at all, just funny. Maybe look elsewhere for flattering "tea" on Tom. Sorry to burst your bubble about Tom's perfection.
Well, anonon has been posting on here for a long time - about 18 months at least, if not longer. If she has been waiting to build up to posting this one piece of tea then she has been playing a very long game indeed.
We have had the odd visitor offering not especially convincing stories. They usually appear and post a few times before producing their tea, then disappear again.
PS when Tom visited Africa/India, was he wearing his 30lb leather Loki consume?
>>358 Maybe Anonon can give pointers to Tom on playing the long game to prep for s2 of TNM lol
Using the word “butthurt” in an argument on the Internet is only one step up from Godwin’s Law.
Also glad to see that as per usual the moaners claim to think what we write is shite, simultaneously with revealing that they come here and read it all, and care enough to comment.
Fake Couch with a VPN, if you would care to lurk thoroughly and read back through the boards when TR was being shot, I mentioned then that I knew colleagues on the crew. I said back then that it would take time until they felt safe enough to talk and I would endeavour to report back if there was any mention of Tom.
There's nothing like an away job with a pub meal to get tongues a wagging.
This isn't tea, it's one crew members opinion and I'd rather you walk away and ignore it or go back to Tumblr to complain. I don't come here to bullshit or to be called a bullshitter, I come here to enjoy friendly banter.
To be honest I was really shocked. I expected adoration or mention of charm. He can obviously turn on the charm when required.
One day I hope I can work with Taika. Apparently there were bean bags for crew to chill and he blasted hip hop between takes. She said he's a genius. Organised chaos. She adored Idris, he was her fav.
Also we don't have an ozone layer here so the sun is punishing and they were shooting through the Qld blistering hot summer.
Anywho, I'm not responding to the unhinged lurker any more.
Nice to see old 'faces' here, hi all x
I can't remember when I started posting. I was certainly around for pursegategate, those were such good times
>>363 It’s good to see you back. Should have said earlier.
Pursegate! That was summer 2015. You’ve been around a lot longer than 18 months.
>>361 I don't even get all indignation and rage. What Anonon shared isn't shady or salacious at all. It's not even that offensive. I thought it was funny. Would've loved to see the co-worker's impression of TH lol
>>362 >>363 Glad to hear from you again! I can't even remember when I started posting tbh so I'm gonna be terrible at remembering others but I remember you being a seasoned member when I began posting. Anonsy used to be here back then too until Tayto put her off. I was definitely here for pursegate and all the extraness TH and EO gave us for ISTL.
Taika sounds like a fun director, he certainly brought a more fun and livelier element to the Thor series. I used to find it a snoozefest out of all the Marvel Avengers series and I didn't watch the 2nd one but hopefully I'll get around to Ragnarok during the holiday downtime.
>>365 I first became aware of TH as what the lawyers call a “person of interest” in summer 14 when I watched Thor (which was ages after I had seen him in Coriolanus!!). Found this board fairly soon after but didn’t really start posting until about Feb the following year - in response to some rubbish put about on the nw3anon blog. I was more sceptical about tea then, before Tayto (joke). I started posting regularly at Pursegate - happy days! So many of us became regulars at that point. That’s when Anon. also started as a regular visitor.
It really is funny although my mouth was hugely agape while she told me. The Bond thing is unexpected and the fact that he bragged about what a great Bond he would be does not at all mean he has been promised the role, it just means that the whole time he complained in interviews about the Bond hype, he was milking it hard from behind the scenes. He's obviously hangry for the role. We all knew that anyway.
Being called a ponce is in no way flattering but it's also not that unusual a nickname for an Eton educated Brit in Australia.
It's the whingeing that really got me and I so wish I could send you a voicemail imitation.
I think Tayto put us all off- such a rapid decline from peak hot to peak tit.
EO was pure entertainment and brought out the sleuth in all of us.
What was the term used for the great door banging session witnessed by the neighbour?
>>367 I wonder if his ego wasn't all over the place during the TR shoot thanks to Tayto and its aftermath, and that might have brought out the less flattering aspects of his personality. (If I remember rightly, Anonon, you're in the biz; so as you know, it can take a heck of a lot less stress for an actor to start "acting out"!)
The hot-sun whingeing explains that pap photo from the Brisbane shoot in which he's standing around in the black suit, frowning, while some poor crew member is holding a giant umbrella to shade him!
I’ve been here since thread 1, so idk whom you are trying to impress with your longevity. Pursegate! Pfft. How about Jane Arthy? Ever thought that maybe some people here have different perceptions of Tom because they became interested in him BEFORE Tayto?
>>366 I started getting into him because of the Hollow Crown. I thought he was a handsome actor who really had some serious acting chops which is why I'm so surprised at how much he struggles to land a decent project and of course, his current drought of projects.
>>367 My American understanding of ponce was someone trying to act super cultured and intellectual and coming off obnoxious af. Is that what the main connotation behind what general public thinks of posh Brits in UK and Aus?
Tayto was such a misstep...it should have been fun like THEO but it was just sad. I love the "anonymous neighbors" (read angry fans) that always come out on twitter after he's been photographed with a girlfriend to yell at him about loud sex. Happened with both JA and EO. We should really have a word for ppl like that.
>>368 It doesn't like he was acting out though. It just sounds like he was whining about the hot weather and buying into his own hype with the Bond thing. I mean we all know Tom isn't really some super modest "aww shucks who me" kinda guy. He always humblebrags in his interviews and name drops when it's not necessary. He's just extra like that. He's always been extra. The way he'd make such a big deal about his privacy when really he's like any other ambitious celebrity and is ready to negotiate his privacy spiel if the price is right. I really think he doesn't listen to the professionals in the industry because honestly, seasoned pros in the industry (all of whom he has access to and hangs around quite a bit) have great advice that's guaranteed to give you respectable success if you have the talent. But that's only if you listen to it. I don't think Tom listens to his team or his mentors that much. ISTL is a great proof of that.
>>368 I'm American too, but I think "ponce" means (in its politest use) "effeminate."
I absolutely agree that he doesn't listen to his team or take advice much if at all, at least until (perhaps) quite recently. Tayto is even better proof of that. Here's hoping that Kenneth Branagh knocked some sense into him while they were planning and doing RadHam. And the lack of work might get through to him too....
>>368 These aktorrs do tend to be more fragile than us normal humans although some are allround solid. As its not my personal opinion that he's a whingeing bragging ponce I won't hang him by it. If I hear similar feedback from others that worked with TH then I'll struggle to be impartial.
It's impossible to hide annoying personality traits on film sets, its like camping together for months. Personality clashes are rife. I also dropped a big clue; this person HEARS MORE than other crew members.For instance I thought everyone got along famously on the shoot we just finished but she informed me the DP and director were fighting.
Holding an umbrella over an actor is actually normal. If they burn the makeup dept will hate you and if they sweat wardrobe will hate you as well
>>370 A ponce here is usually a posh effete whinger. Also known as a twat. According to urban dictionary: would live off a prostitutes earnings.
>>372 Ah, I know which department your friend worked in then.
Makes sense about the umbrella; it was just funny because the crew member wasn't even wearing a hat. (But then, neither did he have to spend several hours in makeup in the wee hours of the AM.)
I saw that other definition of ponce - pimps where you are must be much more upscale than ours!
>>371 Effeminate? Really? That's interesting. Tbh, I have only one British friend and whenever they have used ponce it's usually been with those hipster dude bros who are up their own ass with the mansplaining. Effeminate they are not lol
Let's hope so he's listening to the professionals around him now.
>>372 Okay so basically colloquially it's a similar definition to someone being an obnoxious pretentious ass. That makes more sense. Yeah, to me Tom can come off like that with his humblebrags and the overexplained academia talk. I know some fans like it when he does that but I find him so extra when he goes overboard with it in interviews that don't need answers like that. Some of the CP interviews got like that -_-
Welcome back Anonon. I think I get the gist of where your friend worked.
I've never heard the term 'ponce.' The report of whinging fits in with some gossip at the end of the relationship that TS's stylist hated TH because they thought he was a stuck up know-it-all. Said stylist was later attributed in the same gossip site as saying that it wasn't true.
>>355 Visitor - never say "never" again (see what I did there? lol) when you're talking about TH. Example 1: Tayto. Who would have guessed that relationship was going to happen.
>>374, >>375 I guess my understanding of the word was an older usage (sorry in advance, word geek here!)- see the 2nd part of this definition:
Word Origin and History for ponce (n.)
slang term, chiefly British, 1872, originally "a pimp, a man supported by women" (pouncey in same sense is attested from 1861), of unknown origin, perhaps from French pensionnaire "boarder, lodger, person living without working." Meaning "male homosexual" first attested 1932 in Auden [OED]. Also as a verb. Related: Poncey. [Online Etymology Dictionary]
>>375 There was also some gossip mid- or near the end of Tayto that he'd gone on to her squad about his double first, and he'd made fun of TS for not knowing Latin or having read certain books. Oddly, the Gossip Cop denied the first two but not the bit about the books.... He has a surprising ability to rub people the wrong way.
>>376 In Withnail and I, our heroes head to the pub after “I” (Paul McGann) has had a bath into which he has unwisely poured a whole jar of bath salts. They are approached by a drunken Irishman spoiling for a fight, who calls “I” a “perfumed ponce.” There isn’t much doubt what he means by this.
But that’s the 60s English meaning (when Withnail is set). When I was a kid it meant, more generally, someone who was a bit of a twat. Not necessarily a posh twat, as in Australia. I guess the posh part may hark back to its original meaning in the sense of an underlying stereotype of the posh man being effeminate or gay.
All these posts! I thought he'd gotten engaged...or gotten an actual job. I see neither is the case. Instead a board regular has come along and posted something completely believable and it's set a hare running through the lurking nannies.
Why I trust Anonon: when the Met Ball epileptic fit dance off happened, she was the only one on the board that raised the warning flag about a future sham-mance. She was right. I believe she was also right about the lil HIddles. She, like many on this board, has a good head on her and something sorely lacking in this world: observational skills.
Lurkers who only delurk to huff and puff: A large part of why I no longer go looking for Hiddleston nuggets on twitter or instagram is because I no longer have the time or inclination. The other part is because of lurkers. This board was for a long time the place to get the good stuff. Coach, anonsy, anon1, Anon - somehow they all managed to get the links, pics, info that no one else did. I enjoyed joining that team and doing my part. But when lurkers started to come here and snuffle around like incompetent truffle pigs, I was happy to stop reporting my finds. My hope was that if this board didn't get the scoops, you'd go away and delete the bookmark. You come, you take info away to other sites, you contribute nothing, but complain mightily when you encounter something you don’t like or disagree with - it's the very definition of internet uselessness. And I don’t care if you’ve been here since word one, when you contribute nothing but complaints, you can do one. Scram, or at the very least, go back to silent lurking.
It's beyond me why so many even bother with this board since we're all 'trolling haters' according to them.
Why I believe Anonon’s friend: Humblebragging - it’s a thing TH knows intimately, as NewAnon said. He’s always done it, even before the humblebrag to end all: his GG speech. I can imagine him doing his version of Bond humblebragging. The rumor mill tells us he did a tape with Mendes that maybe got to Broccoli, maybe he spoke to her regarding it, everyone was hyping him as the next Bond, his face was everywhere because of Tayto. He’s going to talk about those. He’s going to humblebrag about them - because if he can do it in a room full of Hollywood elite on national television, he can do it standing around set. No he’s not going to flat out say that he’s going to be the next Bond, but he’s going to imply it like it’s part of some crazy wish fulfilment process.
As to his weather complaints. Okay, he’s gone to India and Africa. So that means he wouldn’t complain about the sun. Huh??? As arguments go, ehhh, that’s not a very good one.
>>379 I believe Anonon's friend, but agree with you and another poster above that he's more likely to have been bragging about all the talk about his being the next Bond rather than about actually having gotten the role. From my past experience, many actors are highly superstitious about talking about a role for which they're being considered until they're signed, for fear of jinxing it. And if he had been in discussions for Bond, wouldn't he have had to sign an NDA? All that said, I can see him being silly enough to humblebrag about being in the running for it between takes when he thought he couldn't be overheard.
He apparently still hasn't got much more of a filter between thought and speech than he did in those 2010 interviews in >>356. (Example: he prefaced that 'pole dancing' response to the interview question "What's the first thing you would do if you became a woman?" with 'Get implants!' Classy.)
I don't think there would be an NDA if it only went as far as TH sending BB his tape, BB acknowledging the receipt of it and saying something along the lines of 'we'll be in touch.' Of course that in TH's brain (well-practiced in cognitive dissonance and soaked in all the crazy of those Tayto days) would equal 'I've auditioned for Bond and Babs and I are in talks about it.'
I believe Anonon because like everyone else said he has a history of humblebragging and being an overly conceited braggert. I always suspected it and the GG speech confirmed it.
I didn't find him that bad in the Thor 1 promo. As a matter of fact, he was more natural in a way. Its when Avengers promo started he started his overly artificial Disney Prince routine that i couldn't stand.
I hate Hiddle Nannies. That's why i barely post in any TH related forum. His fandom is filled with Nannies who actually believe he's a stereotype gentleman prince schtick.
>>378 'Incompetent truffle pigs'. Dotty you always nail it.
As is the case with secondhand information, it is likely I'm not relaying it correctly. We were all laughing quite hard throughout the imitations. I recall she said he annoyed the fuck out of the whole crew with his Bond bragging (he could have just been imitating Bond, who knows) and then she imitated him imitating being Bond and threw in an imitation of him whingeing about the sun.
The overall impression given was that he bragged and whinged his way throughout the shoot. but of course I wasn't there and this is her riling up a crew after a few bevvies.
Its possible that the sun whinge imitation was just for entertainment to prove a point but it actually didn't seem that way. She would have heard such things if they were being said.
The word ponce was mentioned many times and she definitely didn't think very highly of him amongst what sounded like a stellar cast (aside from CH's steroid mood swings).
>>383 One thing that supports the sun whingeing - he started shooting right after the infamous July 4 party. Remember the pictures of Tayto arriving at the Sydney airport and his face was lobster-red? He might literally have been sensitive to any more sun exposure after that. Doesn't excuse the whingeing, though.
>>384 He should have been flushed red from embarrassment after that parade.
It's also highly likely that the reason he had such a long makeup call each morning was to camouflage his tan.
Most actors would deliberately avoid sun before a pale shoot to help things along. The ones that do the opposite with the attitude 'this is how I am, deal with it' for obvious reasons are never my favs and I am prone to giving them a sermon. Sunburnt skin is the hardest to cover. What an arse.
It all seems to back my impression that he rocked up to the Thor set after his summer of twatting about completely out of shape, sunburnt and having done little to no prep. Thus the morning jogs and 3am gym sessions and the lack of sleep and the real/ fake girlfriend who no doubt was losing her shit all over the place probably contributed to the excessive whingeing.
>>383 This just proves what Barbara Broccoli said about Tom; that he's too smug and too weak to play Bond.
He sounds like an egomaniac. He honestly thought he had the Bond role. But his over ambition really got the best of him after his little height of fame and praise with The Night Manager. I could only imagine if he was up for an Oscar or any other sought after role.
He already sounds incredibly snobby with the cold fish way he's been treating some of his fans as of late. Like if he's better then everyone when not realizing he had lowered himself to Kardashian levels of desperation and famewhoreness with the summer of 2016.
He sounds like a child rather then a 36 year old man. Is that why he goes after young women who are almost a decade younger then him and are more famous then him? Is this why he's using a puppy as a security blanket for his fragile ego?
His fans always proclaim he's really mature simply because he went to the most prestigious schools in London and because of Shakespeare or some nonsense. But he really is probably emotionally and mentally stunted. That GQ interview confirmed that.
And duh Australia is hot during that time. He sounds obnoxious and insufferably arrogant. His lack of self-awareness and how he comes off to people who aren't from Tumblr is cringe inducing.
>>385 Maybe he's so jaded being known for Loki for so long that he doesn't feel the need to make any effort since the fangirls eat it up no matter what. That wig he's wearing in Ragnarok is awful.
>>385 I read this and then remembered that he had only been twatting around for THREE weeks at this point. Felt like an eternity, didn't it? He had to pick between contracts. Either stay out of the sun and fulfill his Marvel contract or romp in the surf to fulfill his Tayto contract.
>>386 I never got smug off of him but it might have been a result of his ambitiousness. He's a hustler. He's always working, or was always working. That was one of his better qualities. People tend to like go-getters. But his version of it often strayed into sycophancy and over-ambitiousness.
>>386 What have you seen about how he's been treating some of his fans lately? I've only read anecdotes about him politely refusing to have his picture taken with random people who approach him. But they've all said some variant of how nice he was in chatting with them.
Wow! Quite a discussion. Cool article on all of the costumes of Thor 3, by the costume desigenr Mayes C Rubeo, including why Loki's costume changes colour in the film due to his emotional arc, and how Chris Hemsworth's body armor was sculpted to fit his body!
I think it's thoroughly possible that Tom complained about the sun. We all get cranky, and we all have emotional limits. He can't be courteous/charming/amenable in any situation. And mannered Englishmen aren't everyone's cup of tea. I have a good gal pal who thinks that the sort of refined countenance of most British male actors (Eddie Redmayne, Matt Smith, Tom, etc) makes them all come off as effeminate, due to their posture, vocal quality, and hand gestures! I'd find it fascinating if Tom actually thought he could land Bond, even as the whole fauxmance with TS went tits up! Or whether Taffy (the GQ article authoress) was correct in her assessment that Tom enjoys doing impressions not to entertain others, but rather to personally revel in his own systematically developed performance capabilities?
https://fashionista.com/2017/11/thor-ragnarok-movie-costumes?utm_source=site&utm_campaign=related
>>391 Nice picture of him! Wonder if that's his sister Emma, who's also listed as a reader. (Compare their noses.)
>>392 I don’t think it is. Have a look at the pics of her in that article by her I posted a few weeks ago.
>>393 Sorry I thought you meant Sarah. Emma is quite a lot younger than that lady.
>>396 I had that impression as well. There was an article recently-ish which describes Emma as a midwife. It came from one of those round table press junket interviews so it could have been someone making a mistake - as people have pointed out you get 10 slightly different versions of the same quote. But I thought it was an oddly specific mistake to make, meaning hard to mishear for something else.
I thought it was in GQ. I can't bear to look or give that article another click but wasn't it when he was gushing about his solidly middle class upbringing. Eyes set to roll.
Surely Taff wouldn't get that wrong. Eyes commencing roll maneuver.
Good to see gossip sites haven't forgotten our sun-hating recluse. Right?
http://dlisted.com/2017/12/06/we-almost-had-a-james-bond-film-starring-hugh-jackman/
>>400 The commenters are proposing every other actor you can think of for Bond - except Tom....
At the 2017 BFI Luminous Gala:
https://twitter
.com/mydaddyjay/status/938486406242095104
I took a look at our favorite anon site over the weekend. He or she claims he has a second home. The rest was cryptic, back to implying a secret gf. At least that was my take on it.
>>403 my take on that was that the “second home of sorts” was referring to visiting the GF out of London. FWIW.
Snippet of Tom recording a Hamlet speech in this vid: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3dWiOYnXpE
>>405 I can't watch the video where I am but let me take a stab in the dark: he looks like the most earnest man ever.
Was it for Rada pr? Is he holding a 🐶 while doing it?
>>406 I think something happened with the original link. They are both for this Dragon School audio poetry anthology, but the one with Tom is here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eJp1q7BI7tc&feature=youtu.be
Not too much earnestness actually. He seemed pretty comfortable with it. No dog but terrible beard and homeless person hair.
>>407 I'm glad i'm not the only one who finds that look of his terrible. Every fangirl who saw pix of him at the Thor Ragnarok premiere was saying how good he looked. He looked incredibly old with bed hair and a dad beard.
Who wants to bet this is the speech he 'gifted' to the newlyweds? Re-gifter! He's like a really crap Oprah: 'You get my Hamlet speech! You get my Hamlet speech! Everyone gets my Hamlet speech!'
I venture that he'll grab a few copies and they'll find their way under a few Christmas trees. Luke knows what he's getting! Olly's probably off the list, along with Tay, his American team and his speech writer.
>>406, >>407 Sorry about the link - I was trying not to use one that went through Tumblr, and didn't look closely at the result.
Interesting reading of the speech; I'd love to hear more of it. The hair doesn't bother me too much (at that length, mine would do much the same), but he'd look much tidier if he dealt with the patchy cheek fuzz! And the unflattering lighting doesn't help.
And now TS's paid flunkie, broadway actor Todrick Hall, has stated that Tom turned TS into a hunchback like Quasimodo! Todrick alleges that TS would slump over and hunch every time he brought up Tom's name. Maybe this is b/c Tom and TS had a fauxmance which Tom managed to miraculouly extricate himself from, months ahead of schedule! Her new faux bf (who is sadly in the closet) is happy to hide in hoodies at airports, and color coordinate clothes with TS during hand holding pap walks as long as he books hollywood acting jobs. Hard to argue that Tom is a famehore when he's in London, performing Shakespeare for 2 roomfuls of people, MIA with his puppy, and not mentioning her name at all.
>>411 I read that mess, where Hall never positively IDs who the ex is, which leaves it open to interpretation - TH or CH - the speculation of which seems designed to only hurt TH, but for what reason? As a bday present for TS? He has nothing coming up except Early Man.
>>411 Hahahah. I eagerly await the GC denials. 'No, Taylor does not slump her shoulders. Miss Swift's shoulders and posture are second to none.' The public donation to an osteoporosis charity will follow.
Just more proof that Tayto was a Mess-o and Fail-o. Your pop-up relationship didn't manage to avert peoples' attentions from your lies and hypocrisy. Better luck next time, Taylor.
It's not hard to argue that TH is a famewhore. He was one: Tayto. Vestiges linger: pup-stroll. For me, the jury is still out regarding whether lessons have been learned.
OTT: a recent new hire is in the office next to mine. Her laugh is like nails on a blackboard and EVERYTHING is funny.
We should open up bets for when he'll actually announce something or IF he'll announce something. Is Tumblr still using the 'Marvel Excuse,' I.e., he's been too busy with Loki to do another film?
Will he show at the site of his most recent triumph/PR disaster: the GGs? Do previous winners usually present? Attend?
Was Kong nominated for anything?
>>413 Yep. I should have said that Tom was not the sole famewhore of the situation. He did not use and abuse the delicate flower that Taylor Swfit pretends to be for the public. HS was a mutual use, and Baby Joe has next.
>>414 I don't see any GG nominations for King Kong. But Tom could win a Teen Choice Award for best Actor in a Sci-Fi film to add to his awards cache. Dear me. We've gone from Olivier award best newcomer, and Golden Globe best actor limited series back to teen awards like MTV and Teen Choice. Hmmm...Must process this.
Have a good trip.
http://goo.gl/YLysV3
Ignore link above. It is spam.
Tom seems to be losing by almost ten percentage points to Shawn Mendes in the GQ Most Stylish Man of 2017. Voting is still going on, if anyone is interested. Tom made it to the finals before he lost to Prince Federer, last year.
https://www.gq.com/story/most-stylish-man-of-2017-quarterfinals-voting
>>418 Guess the Tumblr please to vote him up aren't working!
Hard to muster up any concern over stuff like this when he seems to be MIA. His out of sight, out of mind campaign is successful.
Shows how desperate some Tumblrinas are getting.
Maybe his campaign has been a little too successful, with no new project announcements?
10 second TH video introducing the Early Man trailer.
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4186450280924206
Despsite being MIA from the world of pop culture, TH has made it to the finals of GQ's Most Stylish of 2017 versus Harry Styles. Tom is beating Harry by only 1.8%. Harry fauxmanced with Swift long ago, but he co-starred in the golden-globe nominated Dunkirk movie and he has a brand new album out this year, whereas Tom starred in Hamlet (sadly performing it for only a few drawing rooms full of people) and he only has an animated film coming out this winter. So dollars to donuts, GQ must be hoping that Harry will win.
https://www.gq.com/story/most-stylish-man-of-2017-finals-voting
Apparently Taffy Akner, the authoress of TH's GQ article about heartbreak and bolognese sauce, is still using Tom for clicks on twitter. She urged voters to vote for Tom over Harry Styles for 2017's Most Stylish Man. Tom just won, btw. Craziness.
Taffy AknerVerified account @taffyakner
16h16 hours ago
Taffy Akner Retweeted GQ Magazine
Will my 491 followers that have @twhiddleston's face as their avatar please educate the kind people at GQ as to what is what, no offense to Harry Styles.
Taffy really needs to stop. She's sounding like unrequited lovestruck teenager everytime she mentions Tom. It's embarrassing.
>>426 “Now he’s one of the most in demand actors.”
I want what they’re smoking.
She has a IV drip straight into her vein with nothing but Tom's Kool-Aid. A grown woman, whose married with kids btw, acting like a lovestruck teen.
Tom must think Taffy and him are friends, or that Taffy has a shot with him since she loves that the Daily Fail mistook her for his new girlfriend LOL!
No one in their right mind after that embarrassing GQ interview would consider her a friend. Then again, Tom isn't in his right mind. Hasn't been for a very long while.
So Tom's been in two of the biggest box office films this year. He won a Golden Globe for a third production and got great reviews in Hamlet. Only in the minds of the very insane and deluded is he not an in-demand actor. You are all butthurt bitches who can't get over him blocking you on Twitter.
Ignore comment above. It is spam.
The phrase 'in-demand' in the film industry means people want to work with you. Since you are in-demand, people send you scripts, they ask for meetings and pitch projects to you, they seek you out. Out of that absolute avalanche of material and work - you're in-demand after all - you take your pick of the best and most promising. You secure work. That work is then announced and produced. Besides for some brief Marvel filming and voice work, Tom has announced nothing and produced nothing in 2017 except a three week run of a play for his alma mater and mentor.
Compare the IMDb pages of TH and James Franco. One is in-demand, the other not so much.
I popped in to say merry Christmas and faecal matter has splattered the board again. Oh the irony of throwing around the words 'insane' and 'deluded'. I don't think you understand that Hamlet wasn't officially reviewed. He may as well have performed it in his mothers loungeroom. I'm not on twitter, never have been. Keep fighting the good fight, I'm sure he will thank you personally.
>>433 I recall the members of this board were alone in predicting the magnitude of the effect on his career. Admittedly I never thought he would fall quite so far, it really has been quite a drought. Its possible he has chosen not to take on new projects, that Tayto broke him and he has selected a lengthy rehabilitation through Branagh, a puppy and an invisibility cloak. As a workaholic with Hollywood stars in his eyes I do not believe for a second he would have refused choice projects in preference to an animation and a school play.
I wonder what the new year will bring. Will we even care?
Lets hope he comes out of hiding with a wife and two year old.
Keep on poncing TH, don't ever change.
Hopefully he is surrounded by friends and family who love him but moreso I hope everyone here is over the silly season, even the unhinged lurkers, you seem like you need lots of love and support. Merry Christmas all xxx
Tom is a one-hit wonder, lets face it. I'd be surprise if we hear about him after his Loki stint is officially over. You have better Brit actors like Tom Hardy securing roles left and right without lowering themselves to be tabloid fodder.
Instead of finding the humor in Hiddleswift, he instead takes himself too seriously and becomes a recluse. You would think for someone whose fans declare he's this great thespian and went to the most prestigious acting schools in England that he could fake and joke about his Hiddleswift stint even if it personally bothered him. But instead he takes himself so seriously that he hides out with this sour expression on his face everytime he's photographs and "woe is me" stunt he's trying to do with the GQ interview and puppy walks.
All of his fans were surprised that he's suddenly so serious and not as cheerful as before. Why is it a surprise? It just makes it more obvious that his so called "personality" from before Hiddleswift was a ruse and when things didn't go his way he became almost cold in a way.
Also his Twitter and his other social media accounts are barely used by him. He only uses them to advertise his projects which I'm sure the studios already have a good handle on what with the millions of dollars that go in advertising. He doesn't interact with anyone but his famous actor friends and other then that he's boring. He only uses his social media account when he messes up and passive aggressively blames others but himself on why things go wrong for him. Is anyone really surprised at this point that he dated Taylor Swift. He is the male version of her but without the money, awards, clout and fame.
The opposite of hate is indifference. You people care. You care entirely too much what happens in his life and his career. You can't let him go. You spend endless hours here celebrating every vicious comment, every negative item, stewing in your own venom. Thread after thread after thread, comment after comment after comment. You are here constantly. It is you who has no life other than to somehow try and do what exactly? Surely you must see that there is no other thread let alone repeated ones for anyone other than Tom. That is obsession, not indifference. If there was a rehab for this sort of thing, I'd suggest that you all book yourselves in pronto. Instead, might I suggest you get the mental health treatment you so obviously need. Losing some weight (I guarantee you there is not a skinny one amongst you) and a makeover would also do you a world of good. Oh, and leave your house once in a decade would be helpful too. I'd wish you all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year but your stewing venom and bile shows me that you've never been Happy or Merry in your miserable lives.
The irony of people wishing merry xmas while spouting venom about another human being. Have you all asked Santa that he would finally disappear from the planet for good? After all he is such a low life. No surprise the old posters don't come here anymore, they are probably embarrassed at the cesspit this place has become.
Well, I suppose it wouldn’t be Christmas without a couple of grinches. They might want to think what it says about them that they have never posted here before, but deigned to stop by for the first time ever on 23 December in order to spout vitriolic hate about a board they claim to despise but have plainly read.
Anyone who has actually read the boards will recall that anonsy left because she was almightily fucked off at TH for participating in a famewhorey fake romance. The real Couch Potato, who set up this board, left because TH wasn’t really doing anything of interest any more. Insofar as they still have views on TH, I doubt they’d be materially different from the ones of which the grinches so disapprove.
The Real Couch Potato set this board up back in 2013. I knew her well. She was an easygoing soul but she hated two things above all: 1) people who pretended to be her; and 2) trolls who showed up to spout abuse at the regulars. So in the spirit of the Real Couch Potato: if you don’t like it here, fuck the fuck off, and never come back.
Here here Anon.
She sure did hate couch imposters and trolls.
Surely there's a Tumblr set up for farting in the wind 💨
The grinches sound like that ThiddyAstro TH super nanny. She's been currently going on a TS hate rampage on her blog and cherry picking with her astrology how TS is evil and TH is a victim and saint. The grinches sound exactly like her lunatic self
>>440 That's a bit stabby in the dark.
The Grinch is one person with several personalities, a VPN router and the mental acuity of a 12 year old.
My money is on Zhora, Beagle Bitch, Insanely Dumb, or Shaitana
They aren't satisfied with Tubmlr and want here to
Not all of Tom's nanny's are on Tumblr
Personally, I’m not interested in stirring up any hornet’s nest of speculation as to who the new visitors might be - any debate on that subject is all too easily used against the board by those who visit here and then carry tales elsewhere. I don’t want the attention on this board.
FWIW I don’t think that the queen bees of tumblr visit here - why would they when they have an established circle over there, of which they are the centre?
I don't want them coming here either. Let them have Tumblr. Here we can have honest discussion about Tom's vanishing career.
Very telling that TH's knight in shining armour, rather than rationally disputing my argument concerning his status as an actor, instead chose to go with the time-honored personal attack. Why argue with reason and facts when you can call someone fat and anti-social? That doesn't invalidate your argument at all.
'The opposite of hate is indifference.' You can't even get the quote right. That's because it's been filtered to you through TH's verbal, pseudo-philosophical incontinence. Try reading the book it came from. Quotes tend to have more meaning when directly from the author and in context, rather than from an actor trying to score PR points.
If we care too much (having not left our houses in the past decade), what are you? You've come to a board to which you do not contribute to stand like Cocles on the bridge and defend a man you do not know. You have attempted to diminish verbally strangers while trying to prove your opinions. You know what they say about finger pointing.
As to indifference, I think we are headed in that direction, sadly. This board did brisk, fun, comic business during TH's heyday and during EO and Tayto. We had fun and filled up threads quickly. We got to 'know' each other as well. Now the only topics to discuss usually involve Tayto, superhero movies and online polls about his clothes (cf. previous argument about his in demand status).
Merry and much belated Christmas, y'all.
Did everyone get what they wanted from Santa? The in-laws gave us the usual: a very much appreciated check toward our mortgage. My parents gave us a wine and food box subscription. I sold my hair to buy hubby a watch chain...just kidding. He got new gloves, I got a pair of earrings. We were awful parents as junior got nothing new. We wrapped some of his toys so he could enjoy the experience of unwrapping things, which proved to be a hit with him. We're thinking we can keep that going for two more years. He liked unwrapping and lying under the tree and looking at the lights.
>>448 Merry/Happy belated Christmas and Boxing Day, and early Happy New Year, everyone!
Love the O. Henry reference - another reason this board rocks is that we get stuff like that. We had a small Christmas this year, which is fine; mostly books for me, with a few small surprises.
Is Junior at the age yet where he enjoys the boxes more than the toys?
I do have a few small TH gleanings that I'll post when I have time.
Merry belated Christmas everyone.
I hope you all had a good time. I’m glad Baby Anon. enjoyed his unwrapping. You have the right idea there I think. It all felt very grimly commercial in the UK this year. Maybe I am getting old. We went for the “one gift each” approach. A handbag for me and a home charging point for Dr Anon’s electric car (the cost of which greatly offsets any savings on petrol, I am here to tell you!). We spent 5 days with my widowed father in law. His gift was me cooking every meal and him not having to live on microwave meals for a change.
Now in the countryside, fairly near to Casa Hiddleston Mama as usual. I will keep my eyes peeled, though I believe he usually spends NY in London if twitter is to be believed.
Happy Christmas, Happy New Year, and best wishes for 2018. I had a quiet Christmas, where my son came over for a couple of days. He got me some much needed throws for these cold days and nights. What I need is to get these drafty windows taken care of. Then I had a date with a new guy to see del Toro's "The Shape of Water." I recommend you all check it out. New Guy and I went out again Wednesday, and then again last night for the New Year's Eve. I guess I can say everything is going swimmingly.
Belated Happy Christmas, and Happy New Year to all! Just returned from the holidays with my family. And apparently there was a Tom sighting in London by an Italian girl on facebook, yesterday morning. She saw TH on a coffee run while she was eating breakfast, and she commented that he looked cute and available, whatever that means. Now, just hoping for a project announcement.
Marina Magno
Yesterday at 9:48am · London, United Kingdom ·
Happy new year! Well, the year couldn't be better. English breakfast and a chat with Tom Hiddleston... good morning everyone!
Marina Magno Cute and available, like urban legends tell
Apparently Tom didn't make the UK GQ 50 best dressed men of 2018 list by the magazine, despite being voted the American GQ Most Stylish Man of 2018 by the fans. Interessante.
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/gallery/the-gq-best-dressed-men-2018
Bit o' snark from the Guardian when mentioning Early Man? "Our paleolithic power couple prepare to unite the tribe against an evil predator, Lord Nooth, voiced, perhaps inevitably, by Tom Hiddleston." Inevitably because it's a villain role? Inevitably because he's been consigned to comic-book/animated movies?
TWH fan for 6 months and naive to how celebrity-Ness works. After finding multiple blogs/threads I'm now enlightened and now kinda heartbroken, disappointed and disillusioned. He's human, a faulted human male. My head is spinning, what to believe, what's true, what's B.S. Drugs, alcohol, s&m, gay/bi/tri, horndog, liar, exhibitionist, pretender, moody asshole. I'd like to go back to what I first believed, charming, gentleman, kind, articulate, honest, clean, noble...an enigma. I do feel bad for what's happened to his career and hope the best for him.
>>451 Three days on the hop? Woohoo. I can only dream of such a romantic social life! We stayed in on NYE like two (three) hermits. 'Too damn cold' was our joint opinion.
>>449 He wasn't really bothered with the unwrapping or the toys but he's in love with the tree. He's still staring at the lights like a zombie on LSD. We're a little afraid of what will happen when we take it down. Mother dearest: Suck it up. It can't be Christmas all the time, kid.
>>450 Usually men who can't cook or run a household remarry quickly. My grandfather did. He had every meal at the local restaurant for three years before finding someone new. Did you at least try to give him some lesson? This is how you boil the egg. This is how you make bolognese!
>>453 Any comment from Yours Truly after she crowed about the public vote? Didn't think so. But what do those people at GQ know about style, certain fans will say.
>>455 Say what you will about our status as fans, the Guardian officially hates him so whatever they meant by 'inevitably,' it's bound to be a dig.
>>456 Welcome!! Consider the source, would be my advice in sorting fiction from non. In the great pic 'n mix of human behavior, he's probably many of those and none of the others.
>>450 If your FIL is willing to try cooking, I can recommend the "How to Cook Everything: The Basics" cookbook by Mark Bittman.
>>456 Welcome! I'm still a relatively new (since Aug. 2016) TH fan and I can relate to what you're experiencing. I also felt really confused/conflicted the more I read about him, but eventually I learned to ignore the way-out-there, extreme opinions and settle somewhere in the middle. And I also hope that his career comes out of the current apparent slump.
Hi all! Not sure how to drive this thread yet to tag responders. Thank you for the kind responses compared to other thread sites which were either vicious or oblivious. I prob should have called myself Clueless since TH is the only celeb I've ever dogged, so please bear with my questions.
Why is it such a big deal over who's dating who, admitting it, keeping it secret ( and I just heard of relationship contracts) wow.
Bigger celebs have been out n about with multiple partners and the world kept spinning....
Also, maybe T's boring wardrobe is cuz he's color blind and it just simplifies life lol
>>459 oops I guess I figured out posting. Thanks for the advice too on what to believe etc
I wasn't a lurker here. As soon as I read the first page of threads I signed on cuz this is like my kind of Disney ride..up, down, fast slow but it doesn't kill you...does it make you puke!??!!!
I first met TH on CP. If my ex of 30 years ever looked at me like he looked at Edith in the toy room attic...we'd still be married and in bed..sigh. I'm 55 freaking yrs old, so a little embarrassed at crushing. I live in hell...I mean Phoenix. 4 months of 72 degrees then endless months of 120. My second meet was Istl which I liked..grew up on country music, and he did do a good job coming from a whole diff environment. Then I met Hal/Henry..so pretty...but had to use the closed caption to understand wth they were saying. Plus don't hear so good...what?
Then I did the Thors/aven...HR...OLLA...and endless interviews. And my fave TNM. Stop rewind repeat part 4. Waiting for Rag to come out on DVD. I don't like confrontation....like funny...happy to see since starting at 1st TH thread now on 5 that anon. And cp still posting. They make me laugh. Was on tumblr but sick of unicorns farting fairy dust from exploding ovaries but good pics. And I tried LSA...uh..no...just...no.
Not a lot to ad as far as sightings but do have a sliver of humor. My niece and I do have a pact and a plot to kidnap Jensen for her, TH for me....if it pans out I might share. Happy New Year! (I was a vet tech 25 yrs if you have dog/cat/goat/horse???s)
Ps. Dirty secret.......I coughed out a few bucks for autographed Loki pic and a Liddlehiddle coriolanus tee....no one knows about the pic
Allegedly Tom pulled out of buying this 4 million pound country pile in Wiltshire, which he had viewed 3 times, and which is owned by comedian Michael McIntyre. Friends say that this was b/c the deal didn't include some of the furniture from the house. Do friends talk to the media? I hope not. Anyway, the DM mentions the TS fauxmance, the heart tank top, etc. They even put the word romance in quotes to question its validity. Ouch. Can't wait to see pics of Tom attending the Early Man premiere coming up.
>>466 The house in question is pretty lovely. Pool, tennis court, pond, small garden, garden house...
>>466 Scooped again - you're good! The DM also loves to run unflattering pics of Tom with their stories, don't they?
If anyone missed it, the UK premiere for EM is this Sun., the 14th, and the 3 principals are confirmed as attending.
>>460 I think the reasons that it's a big deal about who he dates vary. For some, he's their Internet boyfriend, and they get distressed when he's linked with anyone. For others, it's interesting only for the question of whether the relationship is real, fake for publicity, or some combination. And every reason in between.
>>471thanks for the info. Poor TH..another kick to the noogies.
No new BFI building and no house. He needs some happy stuff.
Another unmentionable site says he has some jobs in the works but couldn't say what of course til it was a done deal. I hope so.
So someone saw him yesterday? I wonder how he really looked. Beardy T is ok if it's groomed, but bushy hair/beard screams feral wild man that's losing hope (or just lost comb and razor....)
Brutal slam on TH by the Express! I was looking up information about dreamy Grantchester, Happy Valley, and War and Peace star James Norton, who incidentally is Tom's RADA alumni mentee. Reportedly James can't ever get Tom on the phone (Tom has been quite busy with Hamlet and trying to rejuvenate his career, though.) And the Express states that after watching James Norton in his new show, McMafia, James could be the next Bond, as long as he avoids wearing a "tiny, tight white I Heart TS vest! " Dear me. Tom is MIA, and the UK press just won let that crazy PR summer go.
Hmmm. In the same way I felt/still feel odd about the dog, I now feel unsure about the house. That is a large outlay, even if a mortgage is involved. But I'm thinking more about the upkeep. On that sort of home it would be massive. If he didn't have the inclination to employ/pay for his erstwhile lady maid, how is he going to feel about gardeners, pool people, driveway people, tennis court people, unless he's going to be mowing, cleaning, spreading gravel himself! That's a lot of money for a man who doesn't seem to be working much, and really didn't have any huge paydays with his other films. I'd guess Kong was his biggest pay check to date. What, $5m, $10m, maybe even $20m (that seems unlikely)? Then tax, agent fees, etc.
If I'm planning on working long hours on set, I'm not getting a dog. If I'm not going to be working, I'm not buying a house.
But I was wrong about the dog so I guess I could be wrong about this. My waters must be off. If he wanted it, the idea of settling down could be on his mind. That's a lot of room for a single man. Perfect for a harem though!!
Welcome Elvie! Enjoy the board.
>>466 Good spot Sosorry.
>>474 All of this. If it hadn’t been for the earlier story, that he was looking (which was a while ago, in another paper and thus not obviously a setup to make this sound truer) I would not have believed a word. This really isn’t an obvious choice for a single man, especially for one who is not really into interior design. Not is it the house for someone without a reasonably secure disposable income - though TH is someone who doesn’t care for his clothes, so maybe he isn’t focussed on issues like upkeep.
Two thoughts:
1) the only part that rings true is the desire to buy Macintyre’s furniture. I am sure that was only a pretext for the sale falling though, but the desire to buy it sounds like him.
2) this tells us that TH sees himself as part of the uber trendy Cotswolds set (http://luxurycotswoldproperties.co.uk/celebrities-live-cotswolds/) - which may say something about how he sees himself. One of what we called at college the “beautiful people” - moneyed, good looking, a bit druggy, thought they were dead gorgeous and led the herd. Hung around the pool table in the college bar talking to other beautiful people about how beautiful they were. I do recall he was spotted at a hip Cotswolds hotel about this time last year.
I wonder if he wants someone to think he's one of the beautiful, Cotswolds dwelling people with major bank. Someone of the female persuasion. 'Yes I fauxmanced, yes I wore that shirt...but look at my manshion!'
Maybe he's given up on acting and is now a dog sitter/waker who flips houses.
Now for another edition of Show or No.
Event: Golden Globes
Date: Sunday
Record: 1 win out of 1 nom
Cringe Rating: 8.5/10 (2017)
Show or No?
Also: Beard or No?
Betting no show. Beard and hair too big to get out of house. Caveman furs still on live bear and Thor is using Ts club in place of mumu. He's currently being groomed but it will take til Early Man premier to get thru the hair.
>>477 I’m hoping no show. No real reason for him to be there publicly, and too much risk of him saying something dopey with the focus on anti-harassment.
>>478>>477 Tom was seen running this morning on Hampstead Heath! So I guess he's a no show for the golden globe awards tonight. I vote that he maintains his goatee. His War Horse Press Interviews looked very nice.
https://www.facebook.com/josephine.tomkins/posts/10215817266164693
The Telegraph, ostensibly discussing James Norton for Bond, spends a chunk of time dissing TH and how he blew his chance thanks to Tayto: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2018/01/07/next-007-must-just-pretty-face/amp/
Bond may haunt his press coverage as much as TS will....
Apparently Tom got the Early Man french accent gig b/c Nick Park saw him do the impressions of DeNiro, etc. on the Graham Norton show in 2015. Okay...
I just finished all the Hiddleston threads. WOW. Some of you were are so spot on about some of the happenings. Made me shake my head a lot at TH. And I also laughed hard enough a few times to threaten undie change....old bladder easily startled by sudden laughter, coughing, sneezing, startlingly and 15 lb fat ass cats jumping on it.
So I guess he's to make an appearance on the 14th for EM premiere.
Sad that TH is no longer active on twitter since his phenomenal director in Crimson Peak, Guillermo Del Toro, won a Golden Globe Award for his new film The Shape of Water, last night! I only wish that CP had had a better script, and that it had been as fully realized as TSOW was. Fingers crossed that Tom magically has a new project to announce on the 14th at the Early Man premiere.
>>481 This article mentions that the Night Manager 2 plans have been a struggle. Hmm...I'm glad about that, I think. And since the Sun is now claiming that Tom's RADA mentee, actor James Norton is being touted as the next Bond, I will assume that Norton's PR is driving this Bond BS, much like Tom's PR did last year, and other newspapers use it for clicks. Anyone who wants to be the next Bond please learn to chill out, and shut up!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5243255/bbc-james-norton-mcmafia-new-james-bond/
An article exploring why ALL of the Marvel leading players, including Tom, can't open a movie at the box office in their efforts outside of Marvel. And it trashes all of their movies outside of Marvel! The said that not even Hiddleston could save Kong: Skull Island from King Kong tropes, and that although he never delivers an uninteresting performance of on camera, that what Tom is best at is Loki. I disagree. Most of the movies they criticized had terrible scripts! And a couple of the actors like Chris Evans, Evangeline Lilly and, and Chris Pratt are just not verstile actos who are capable of multi-layered performances.
Oh no! 95 year old Stan Lee, former president and CEO of Marvel and co-creator of Iron Man, Spiderman, and X-men, has been accused of groping his nurses, harassing them, and requesting oral sex in the shower. My dear. His pic w Tom is below.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5250513/Marvel-creator-Stan-Lee-95-accused-groping-nurses.html
https://78.media.tumblr.com/105af69ee04f0ee7ac587e2576ec5883/tumblr_mil3zp2EOv1qa5shso1_250.jpg
>>485 I think that article is all over the place. For example, it gives some examples of non-MCU movies in which Hemsworth did well, then picks one in which he didn't. Another: their argument barely stands up with, say, Jeremy Renner, who generally has an excellent track record away from Marvel.
And while KSI had its many, many problems, Tom could hardly have saved it given his whittled-down role in the end.
It would have been a better, more interesting argument to discuss whether or not the actors' Marvel-movie fans will follow them over to any non-comic book movie, good or bad. Or if there's something about being an MCU actor that causes them to pick bad projects outside Marvel.
>>487 I agree. And, I think that the industry and the public's obsession w franchises doesn't allow audiences to become but so loyal to an actor's career choices. Leo D and Denzel W are the only sure things at the box office. And even Denzel just faltered. Plus movies have become very expensive.
And apparently the BBC really really seems to be trying to keep up interest in The Night Manager 2, expected maybe in 2019?! And what Cosmoplitan magazine knows about a sequel, is nothing! No plot, no cast guarantees, just a writer who is on staff to write it. Ha ha!
>>488 We'd likely do better in predicting TNM2 by throwing darts randomly at a multi-year calendar!
>>484 Rather than announce a new project I'm afraid he's going to be wearing a sandwich board reading: Will Act for Money.
It may be that these sites that are saying he's working on confirming new projects have some insider info but I doubt it. More likely wishful thinking on their part or a gamble on the obvious answer. I mean at this point he must have something in the works, right?
>>481 Remember how it was just we monsterous toxics who were harping on about Tayto? Everyone else had put it behind them and moved on.
Wasn't he possibly involved in Lockards Silent Night?
>>494 Have I missed something? are there sites out there saying he is working on confirming new projects?!
After the GG no show, I have been wondering what is actually going on with The Drought. There were some there who had not been nominated and were not associated with nominated projects. I find it hard to believe as last year’s winner that he could not score an invite if he wanted one. So what is going on?
Is he just taking a voluntary self-imposed break after several years working back to back? I find this hard to believe. Everything I have seen of TH suggests to me that he is fiercely ambitious and loves the limelight.
Has he become such box office poison that there are no projects? Again, I find this slightly hard to believe. He got good reviews on Hamlet, and behaved himself pretty well on the TR press junkets. So many actors (not necessarily superstars) have been forgiven much more heinous behaviour - drugs, sexual harassment, tantrums etc. I can’t believe he is the only one not getting a pass, even if he was too fat and too tan on the TR set (as indicated by Anonon).
Is he just too picky about what’s on offer? Wants another tentpole and is rejecting reasonable smaller projects?
Has he been advised/ordered by his management to calm it down for a year or 18 months while memories fade, perhaps including making no project announcements even if he has them. Does this mean he has sacked his West Coast publicity team - seems likely as I find it hard to believe that they would espouse the “less is more” approach.
Has he had some kind of nervous breakdown in the early part of 2017, out of which he only really emerged at the time of the Hamlet project? I have to say, I look at the (lack of) personal grooming and the clothes and compare with how he obviously loved looking good during the ISTL junket (and before at events like ComicCon when he wore his own choices) and I do wonder about this. What would you say to a friend who has not cut his hair or shaved in 2 months and wears the same clothes every day.
Is he maybe involving himself in the rehab of the BFI house since the bid for the new one fell through?
Geez, I just feel bad for the guy.
>>494 The impression I get from Tumblr is that MMP on LSA is dropping hints to that effect. (I don't follow LSA anymore; the tone got to me.)
>>496 For the GG, I noticed that a lot of the non-nom'd/
unassociated presenters had soon-to-be released projects - for example, Hemsworth was introduced with a reference to the upcoming Horse Soldiers. Tom's role in EM wouldn't merit much of a mention, so maybe no invite (or push from his PR team to get him one).
Re The Drought: I agree it's unlikely that this is a voluntary break. Especially because it's hard for actors to get back into the game (get cast) if they're away from it for too long. (And for that reason I doubt his management is keeping him quiet for this long - even if they wanted him a bit off the radar, there still should be a small steady drip to keep him visible. But there weren't even any interviews for RadHam, except one in an Italian fashion mag.)
I also think it's hard to believe he wouldn't be getting any offers at this point. I'm leaning towards the offers just aren't what he wants/what his team is telling him to hold out for. Just a guess, but I suspect the offers are for indie/non-tentpole ensemble parts, when he wants either another big franchise or a plum indie lead (his Imitation Game). Good luck with that - there's just too much good competition in his age range/type.
Don't know about a nervous breakdown; I don't see Branagh entrusting the RADA fundraising kickoff to someone who was just coming out of one. Depression, on the other hand.... would at least explain the recent IDGAF approach to his appearance. And/or he's doing some deep navel-gazing trying to figure out what he really wants out of his life at this point.
Mildly interesting that after the early spate of puppy sightings reported, there's been nothing on that front recently.
>>495 I thought Elvie had mentioned these up thread.
The post-Tayto drought is unique. Even his previous drought was because projects fell through, I think (it was before I entered the fandom). Still he was able to secure others. This one seems to stem from a complete lack of non-Marvel projects. I fear that, after several years of being the lead in his recent non-Marvel roles, he may think smaller, ensemble parts are beneath him. (I can't help but wonder if he only took the Early Man role because Redmayne's in it. If ER signed on, then it wasn't beneath TH to do it.) Turning things down is of course his right but it's going to drastically cut down on the roles he'll have on offer.
His 'brand' took a hit in 2016/early 2017. That would have been enough to send a slightly narcissistic and greatly ambitious man into a tailspin. I don't think he's had anything close to an actual breakdown; he was fine (if subdued) during Kong promo and was compos mentis enough to agree to the Rada play and prepare for it.
I don't think the American team and TH have parted ways for one reason: Yours Truly. She appeared when the American team came on the scene. If her services are part of his PR package, okay that's a perk. If he's paying for her services as an individual, all is lost!
I know I said the dog wasn't a rent-a-dog for a pup stroll but...reaching for anonsy's discarded tinfoil hat....
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Shall we keep an eye on James Franco's career now? He was only accused of being a perv so that's not as bad as dating a girl and being misunderstood in a speech.
There's a photo of him from today with Maisie promoting EM. He's alive and looks good. Don't know how to apply pics to post.
URLfile:///storage/emulated/0/Download/tumblr_p2g98nAj9L1u5j9sco1_540.jpg hope this is it.
>>504>>506 Another pics of TH and MW
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd2wBJHF1bh/?tagged=maisiewilliams
Same TH...same shirt...good that some things don't change...uh..literally.
>>502 This is an over-simplification of those two situations that I can't let go without comment, even though you are being sarcastic. If these were accurate summations of Tayto and his GG speech, then our criticism of him wouldn't have been warranted, and we would indeed be the toxics were are often accused of being.
While I most certainly don't speak for all, for most on this board (please correct me if I'm wrong) the problem with both EO and Tayto was the hypocrisy. We'd been told: his private life was just that - private, relationships were sacred, family was the most important part of his life, yet those two relationships (one probably real or the other most certainly not) were used for PR purposes, his family was used for PR purposes. Then he had the temerity to suggest that the public nature of Tayto was due to people with cameraphones. We're all prone to hypocrisy but TH hit it out of the park in these instances.
The GG speech wasn't misunderstood; it was miscalculated. There's a difference. Remember that TH's agents had just recently formed a partnership with Unicef or a charity agency of some sort (I can't remember). That speech was a lite tie-in in which he spoke about himself and the popularity of his tv show more than he spoke about the actual work aid agencies are doing. It wasn't a white savior speech, but it was virtue signalling of the worst sort.
No, he's not assaulted or harassed anyone. No, he's not killed anyone: the arguments that nannies make as excuses for his behavior. But that doesn't mean he hasn't been a lying, attention-seeking shit that's due criticism when earned.
>>505, 506 Thanks for these. He looks good, and no sandwich board asking for work!
>>509 He can't afford new clothes or to wash more than one outfit. He has to buy a house and furniture, and pay for the tennis court to be resurfaced!
Captcha: robe. As in, we're lucky TH didn't show up in his bathrobe.
>>504 Not sure of the original source, but the pix are on twitter here: /bestofmaisie/status/951842353995755520
Still bearded, be-curled, and in his blue sweater. I wonder if that sweater is like Linus’s blanket for him.
>>507 >>511 He looks well, but I still hate that beard. He looks like Robert Redford in Jeremiah Johnson (ie like he has lived in a log cabin in the West and not spoken to anyone for about 2 years) (though, wait a minute....).
>>510 Word. It’s the lying we found so hurtful. All joking aside, you don’t get to say ad infinitum how private and authentic you are and also exploit your fake or real relationship for publicity, AND hope to escape criticism.
>>510 Hi..didn't mean to ruffle feathers as my point was that I think it will be interesting to watch how one is treated vs the other with I think Franco's indiscretions and then going to the GG dressed in black to support against harassment is a hypocrisy too. So basically which hypocrisy will be considered/treated the worst. And for me, I wasn't insulted by the speech which I watched months later, I cringed some but saw where he was going with it too. I also tend to lean towards finding something positive in any situation, give the benefit of the doubt. That's just me with anything :) Sorry, don't want to get on anyone's bad side with my opinion :)
Just a p.s. new to the fandom so didn't see things as they happened and even tho I've been reading blogs and threads remembering timelines etc are hard for me so I'm probably going to get things bassackwards. Just trying to contribute.
>>514 Elvie, you haven’t got on anyone’s bad side. We express robust opinions here and we don’t always agree with one another. Also some are less critical of certain behaviour and some are more so. For example I think on the GG speech I was more of the “clunky but well meant” side (hard to remember now). Others were more critical. It’s a broad church. The only things we don’t tolerate are ad hominem attacks and a refusal to accept that others are entitled to a different opinion.
>>513 'Like' being the key word. TH is a very good looking man. But Robert Redford in JJ...it makes you realize the existence of God. So handsome, so rugged...so American!
>>514 You didn't. This is what we do here. Nothing against you personally, just the over-simplification of the reasons for why TH was and is criticised, and may be struggling to find good projects. Please don't be afraid to express an opinion in the future! Somethings we agree on, others, not so much.
Franco, of course, is a hypocrite. I'd say 70% of the men and women in that GG audience were. That's Hollywood. Many in that room have worked with, ignored the truth about, or outright supported people like Weinstein, Polanski and Allen. Most have probably misused they power in similar ways.
I'd bet the established, box office-friendly talent will be forgiven. Franco is a movie star, and also a director and producer. He's got power and draw, which means he'll be redeemed. TH isn't established and wears one hat, which equates to little power/control. It's not right that this is the case, but Hollywood is a big ball of not right.
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>>510 Thank you Anon. for putting it in a really concise way.
While i don't think TS is a victim I feel that the majority of sites tend to vilify her a bit too much compared to TH when it came to HS. TH is just as guilty in lying and being an attention whore as TS, but at least we expect TS to do what she does which is whore out her famous BFs'. While I think TH has always been an attention whore starting from his instant popularity in the first Avengers film, he just didn't have an accomplice who was A-list to show off his smugness and daresay even snobbery. It showed a really ugly side to him which turned a lot of people off fans and non-fans alike.
I just don't like the misogyny his fans throw at TS when it comes to HS when TH is just as guilty in playing the public for his own gain and thinking himself as more important then he actually is coughgoldenglobescough I think he should've gotten more criticism about his Golden Globes speech. I'm always suspicious of celebrities doing humanitarian work but he just showed how self-important he thinks he is with that speech of his that any humanitarian effort from that point on is going to be looked at with suspicion.
That GQ interview was a load of bullcrap and I doubt he was in love with TS as he claimed he was. He was trying to play with his old brand again; the romantic, gentleman english man of Tumblr dreams whose heart was broken by a pop star. It is obvious now he is trying to distance himself from that old persona because HS let it be known how attention seeking and insincere he is.
New pic of Tom and Maisie at the EM promo.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd5Tu17B2bu/
Pix and vid of Tom at the Early Man premiere today on torilla:
http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4196225991330183
http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4196215732765353
http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4196211302801318
Basically the same look as his T:R one, but with a plain blue suit. Luke is with him.
The Dragon Book of Verse for which Tom recently recorded is available for purchase (UK only). Two Shakespeare soliloquies (click the blue thumbnail to see the list): https://www.dragonverse.co.uk/product-page/a-selection-from-the-dragon-book-of-verse
He looks good. A little thin? Not too many wide, toothy, laughing smiles in the pics.
Ahaa! I got it! One time he referred to his semi bearded self as looking like a Scottish farmer, so he must be doing a film about a Scottish farmer!?!? ;)
Dear me. The DM has done an article on the EM premiere and Tom, and 3/4 of the article is about the fauxmance w Swift. Since they call her songs catchy, I bet the TS PR team had a had in it. They analyze the Getaway Car song lyric, post the Rhode Island pics, mention the heart vest, it has the LA airport pics of both of them, and the Met dancing pics, etc. Such a bore. Sadly Tom made a terrible choice in co-creating that famewhore summer. TS doesn't have a career w/o referencing fictional drama and petit feuds, since her songs from this album aren't even being streamed on spotify anymore. And no one cares about the last video.
>>526 Or maybe the DM is pissed that Tom didn't talk to the reporters, so they constructed a TS article as a rebuke? Apparently he chatted w the children for a long time though, when Eddie Redmayne and Maisie Williams didn't, for some reason. Tom looks a little fuller in the face, IMO. He was manorexically lean for ISTL. Plus, he likes to keep himself so lean from power running, which can make anyone over thirty look haggard in the face. So I think this is better.
Stop clogging up 4-ch with these dumb threads on a second rate character actor. I get your bored but why not go buy yourself a dildo and fuck yourselves to death with it. If you'e lucky, your cats will eat you so your families won't have to pay to bury you.
>>525 Maybe he's going to become a Scottish farmer, hence the search for a manor house.
>>526 Well 'Actor has long hair and beard' can't fill up an article. As he's got nothing else to offer them except his supposed real estate dealings, they're going to fall back to familiar ground. The DM had a lot of Tayto's 'photo exclusives' including the mum stroll, and the most obvious example of them calling the paps: the paps on the runway and up the motorway. I wonder if whoever wrote this article knows from those exclusives that it was all as phoney as a $3 bill and put the GQ bit in there as a wink and a dig.
I like longer hair on a man but he's nearly in mullet territory. After mullet comes...manbun or manytail. And we thought Tayto was bad.
>>522 The less than enthusiastic smiles may be due to the fact that his dates (that we know of) were Luke and...drumroll...his mummy. Wonder what she thinks of the state of his follicles!
Is the general fandom still blaming Luke for Tayto and calling for his head?
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EM reviews. The movie seems to be getting very good reviews, as a kidde-era Brexit allegory. They say that Tom's french accent is rather broad. But Tom seems to be referencing the comedic 'Allo 'Allo! BBC series set in WWII era northern France, so its meant to be a farce.
More EM premiere pics. Apparently Mama Hiddleston was his date. TH also seems to have brand new and darker couloured new eye glasses. Maybe purchasing a pair of designer eye glasses for intensive personal reading and taking hottie-professor fan pics is the only splurge he can justify for himself, since there seem to be no new project announcements?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5268087/Eddie-Redmayne-attends-London-premiere-Early-Man.html
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/early-man-review-1074629
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jan/14/early-man-review-aardman-animations
>>526, >>527, >>529 The DM read as if they didn’t even have a reporter at the event, just a photog. They could at least have mentioned that he spent time with the fans, especially the children.
The times he’s smiling in these pix are when he’s with the kids, a couple with ER and Masie, and one where Luke is saying something in his ear. So he’s still capable of smiling; he’s just lost that hyper level of glee he used to have.
>>532 No pap stroll with Mama, I see! Back to the previous approach of keeping family out of the limelight. Who could possibly have thought that her starring role in Tayto was was anything but coincidence.....
A kiddo-era Brexit allegory? Jesus wept. Is that the Guardian? Has to be the Guardian. Everything is about Brexit to the Guardian.
>>532 She was. If you search on twitter, one of the most popular tweets is a video of a kid who attended the premiere. He interviews TH at the afterparty and momma is alongside yucking it up. I nearly wet myself as she didn't do her hair for the premiere but did do it for Tayto. Hmmmmm.
PS Good to see ER got time off from his job as a Paddington Bear clothing line model to attend. 'Styled by yours truly, P. Bear.'
>>535 I saw that - I didn’t see him posing with her on the red (green!) carpet for the press though.
Cute video of Tom, as he does vocal exercising/beat boxes with MW for EM Press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=44&v=-zsvta0r2Yc
Celebitchy getting in its two cents about Tom’s look for the premiere (half funny, half snarky, but I do like the term “hiatus beard”): http://www.celebitchy.com/562782/tom_hiddleston_his_scruffy_ginger_beard_are_here_to_make_2018_slightly_better/
Smells like ancient dry brittle and unused pussy in here.
Smells like leaking depends to me
>>539 Celebitchy thinks that Tom looks like Maisie and Eddie's father? Ouch! And they were contemporaries at Eton, and Eddie is about to become a father for a second time? Dear me. I'm glad that Tom isn't as vain as some guys in Hollywood, b/c that kind of comment would drive some pretty boys straight to a dermatologist to get some major chemical peeling and laser resurfacing done to the old puss!
>>537 Well some things are sacred. Also she might have refused to be photographed with him until he shaves and gets a haircut.
Here's an ONTD article on the premiere. Following on from the OP's question, it quickly devolved into a summer o' fuckery rehash. Amongst my favs were posts ridiculing the Nashville restaurant photos and one which called Tayto a 'dumpster fire.'
https://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/109172451.html
I think this will be his lot for a good while longer. Even when the new project is announced, Tayto will rear its ugly head in the background. Ah well, this too shall pass, eventually.
>>542 I think the father remark was as much about their different outfit choices as anything else; compared to his co-stars, he almost looked overdressed. And he’s so much taller than Masie,
>>543 I loved the quote of “This whole debacle is like someone bringing a small flightless bird to a gun fight”!
Also the early comment re: sending every man in the U.K. a tub of moisturizer....
The video of Tom's mom at the EM premiere is below, and mummy Diana appears at minute 3:06. And, Tom's premiere style made the GQ's best dressed list of the week at #7.
https://www.gq.com/gallery/best-dressed-men-of-the-week-jan-15-18
https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=5s&v=0E_dE9VONQo
Short EM interview w/ Tom: twitter;com/TomTheNextLevel/status/952920765606907909/photo/1
Note the line about “not an exhibition of my work but of theirs.” An example of the new Modest Tom?
Tom's 5 minute video interview for Early Man with Theupcoming. It seems as if he is just as committed to promoting this film in an artiulate way, as he is to his other films. His reluctance to talk to reporters probably stems from the fact tht he doesn't have a new project to announce, and he doesn't want to come off as such a a shamless self-promotionist after the GG speech situation and Tayto. FYI, the James Ivory Richard II project is in pre-production as of August 2017. His recent success as the screenwriter of this year's Call Me By Your Name, should give Ivory some heat to get Richard II made.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=306&v=zn-xSo4zajY
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2338888/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1
>>545 This was my favorite tweet from when KK released the tapes of TS being a lying liar. I missed the early weeks of Tayto because of real life, so Receipt Gate is my Tayto jam. What a surreal night. With everything that had happened, no one thought it would get more ridiculous and then KK made the internet explode!
>>548 I swear that movie has been in pre-production for that past five years.
>>548, >>549 According to the crazy clever one, RII became listed in IMDB Pro as in pre-production as of this past fall. So maybe it's a inching a little closer to being made someday. Which might contribute to Tom's shaggy look - it's easier to have a beard and get rid of it for a role than the other way round. (The fake beards in KSI and HR did not look natural on him.)
A behind-the-scenes EM video showing some voiceover work. Tom's bits start at about 2:12, and include when Nick Park was giving him a massage to get the shaky voice for the bath scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwux8aJ7ck
Not sure Tom would have seen this project as beneath him except for Eddie R being part of it. Tom's talked about how he loved Aardman movies as a kid, and in the BTS shots he looks like he's having so much fun. And remember that Ralph Fiennes voiced the villain in the last Wallace & Gromit movie, so he's in good company.
>>548 I was thinking the same thing about the press avoidance (both in this case and for RadHam). He knows he'll get asked about what's next. And I suspect he's trying hard not to do anything that will make him look as if he's heavily self-promoting anymore. I believe we're not seeing sad or depressed Tom at this point, but Tom 2.0, the grown-up version.
>>550>>548>>549 My hunch could pay off! James Ivory's Richard II could still come to life! James says that Tom has agreed to play Richard and Damian Lewis will play Bolingbrook, and he's still looking for financing. Yay. The dream has not died! If Call Me By Your Name is Oscar-nominated, and wins a few gongs, this could help turn Ivory into a recent awards contender whose projects are still worthy/marketable to greenlight!
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An upload of Tom’s two recordings for The Dragon Book of Verse: https://t.co/rW3hP1cgsY?amp=1
We must be desperate for TH gossip. Gossip cop denied that following the Golden Globe Awards, Chris Hemsworth had set Tom up on a date w Angelina Jolie via a messaging app and texting, and that they have been chatting ever since, and are planning a dinner date in LA, soon! Ha ha! Angie's life is a fascinating and passionate whirlpool, but I think Tom needs his life to remain a sea of calm : )
https://www.gossipcop.com/angelina-jolie-tom-hiddleston-chris-hemsworth-dating/
Eddie Redmayne on this video at 3:52, thinks that Tom should be a wizard in one of the Fantastic Beasts/Harry Potter prequel films! My dream was that Tom and his lovely beard would be cast as young Dumbledore in his dark wizard-catching years! Darn you Jude Law! I'm still hopeful that we'll get Tom with a wand in hand, at some point.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/fiBbg3HfSWc
>>556 That, or playing the young Emperor Palatine in a Star Wars prequel!
I wonder why, with all the EM promo, none of it seems to have been with just Eddie and Tom together. (Each of them had sessions with Masie, and there was at least one with all three of them.) Probably just as well because Tom might have regressed a bit from his new adult persona. Tom 1.0 has only peeked out a little from the vids I've seen.
Kinda hard to tell, but from the "Would you rather" with Maisie
He hath trimmed the face beast!
>>558 Maybe! I thought I could still see some face fungus creeping up the cheeks...! He’s very enamoured of the old beard. Strokes it a lot and has referred to it on a couple of occasions.
>>551 This is kinda my point. It’s okay to do an animated feature (even after TPF!) because ER and people like RF have done it. I know he said he loves Aardman but he also said 'I've always wanted to do a movie about a journey to an uncharted island,’ i.e., he’s given to exaggeration.
>>555 If he thought Swifty chewed him up and spit him out!
>>558 This is from the fall press day (I remember her cute collar dress). That’s not a trimmed beard, it’s a growing beard.
I believe the face-ferret is still in place because…TH and his beard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HT4R8tahJg
An article noticing that Tom was absent from the Marvel 10 year anniversary photo, despite portraying one of the most beloved and multidimenional characters! Preach!
http://www.ibtimes.com/marvel-class-photo-missing-some-important-actors-mcu-movies-2651414
The Guardian dragging out the GQ interview again - they’re still on the side of it hurt rather than helped him: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/feb/08/quincy-jones-said-what-star-interviews-that-got-us-all-talking
Tom’s 37th birthday. 🎂
Post from Instagram with a pic I haven’t previously seen from ISTL. He looks pretty committed to smoking that cig, I’d say....https://instagram.com/p/Be-rgZVnoyO/
>>562: But isn't that what all of you have worked so hard for? To see Tom's career in ruins and for him to be the punchline of jokes everywhere? I thought you'd be celebrating. Or is it just too much work for you to go and find someone else to tear down?
Pic of Tom walking puppy, Bobby. The DM rapiers out for Hiddleston and Jude Law. Says they both are dressed as if it is for their midlife crises. Ouch!! Dark.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5379421/Jude-Law-Tom-Hiddlestons-midlife-crisis.html
>>565 Meant to also say, that I understand that some well-off preppy guys like to wear their clothes over and over until they are completely worn out, and I admit that I don't like men who dress like vain peacocking city boys, I don't know what Tom's statement to the public/film industry is. He looks pale and very unkempt in his personal grooming. And when you're not working or scheduled to work as an actor, that's not the best message to project to the world. You just look as if you don't care what people think of you. As an actor, your appearance is your business office, in a way.
>>565 I feel a bit sorry for Jude Law. One may or may not like the coat, but it was intended as a fashion statement, and with the exception of the boots the items are all clean and pressed.
Is that a hole I see in the front of Tom’s jacket? Also, I don’t think we can now dispute that the jacket is just filthy (I recall a debate last year about whether we saw a footprint or a trick of the light). As for the boots, it may have been a lot muddier than expected when he was out walking the dog. The acid test will be whether he bothers to clean them off.
>>566 In the old days it was said that one got one’s valet to wear one’s shirts until they looked a bit worn, as very new clothes were vulgar. I think this is taking it to extremes. I have seen many Old Etonians (and others!) wearing a favourite jumper with a hole in the elbow. Usually, however, the clothes are clean. Was Tom always this, ahem, dirty when he went casual? I don’t recall that.
There are more better pics of TH n Bobby on LA S of 65 but for some reason I can't repost from kindle so maybe someone else....he doesn't look as bad as DM has him looking.
Sigh...more better? I's educmucated...it's on LSA autocorrect!
>>568 Many much much better pics of Tom and Bobby on torilla. It looks like the DM falsified the color of Tom's pics to that they could feed their mid-life crisis narrative! The bsterds! Tom's coat is faded, but it's not dirty. And his jeans look pretty crisp, as well. And Bobby has a fashionable new coat : ) I really hope that Tom is growing out his hair for James Ivory's Richard II,and Ivory said 9 hours ago “At the moment I’m very optimistic it will happen.” Yay!Apparently the script is by Argo screenwrtier, Chris Terrio. But CT also wrote the Justice League script. Hmmm...
http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4206718289832510
http://www.mailtribune.com/news/20180212/james-ivory-could-make-oscar-history
http://www.journalgazette.net/entertainment/movies/20180211/age-not-slowing-writer
Torilla has pics as well.
The reappearance of the dog indicates he is his. I had wondered if he belonged to another family member, perhaps, as he had not been seen since the first pics (I think).
Tumblr is afire with he looks mentally ill/no he does not how dare you/he looks like a homeless person/he DNGAF/he is walking the dog these are his special dog walking clothes how dare you/etc
>>570 We posted at the same moment!
Have a look at the middle photo in the top line (2/9). Looks like the left sleeve is pretty filthy, though I agree that some of the problem with that coat is that it looks dusty where it has worn shiny where it rubs. Not that that is much better (!!).
>>568 The additional pix are on Torilla: https://wx3.sinaimg.cn/orj360/6e14d388gy1fodzunjga6j20qc13itg9.jpg
(Hope the link works - it’s to the first of the series.)
He’s looking rail -thin as well as pale. And why do they never catch him smiling at the dog?
>>572 I suspect the coat’s condition is a combo of thriftiness, dog walking, and thumbing his nose at the paps. But he’s never been skilled at thinking through the impression he makes.
>>573 I imagine he is aware when he is being papped. The first pics of him carrying the dog were blue steel to the max. He so obviously loves dogs that I am sure he is like this in private: http://www.smallstepsproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Tom-Hiddleston-Joost-Vandebrug-1.jpg
(One of my all time favourite pics of him, BTW).
>>574 I’m sure it is a combination of things. Doesn’t Di Caprio wear the same clothes all the time to make the pics less worthwhile (or he went through a phase of so doing)? He seems quite literally to wear the same outfit down to the hat every day now. I wonder whether the paps are there more than we know and that has prompted the nose thumbing.
>>575 Sigh. Just looking at that pic and remembering why I ended up in the fandom. Tom with short black hair, a huge smile and - remember those days? - clean, relatively new and flattering clothes that were chosen by him (rather than being bought by Yours Truly at such humongous expense that it’s no wonder he baulks at replacing them).
>>575, >>571 Despite his having said he "doesn't see" the paps, I've come to agree that he must be aware of them. Or at least he always adopts that face when he's out and about as a protective measure. That's a sweet picture of him with the dog; and in all the others I've seen of him with dogs, he's been interacting with them a lot.
>>575 Daniel Radcliffe also "casually" remarked, when he was turning up in stage door photos from (I think) Equus, that he "noticed" that he'd worn the same clothes for a week.
I wonder if the timing of this pap/pup walk had anything to do with TS having released some kind of behind the scenes vid on Tom's birthday in which she jokes about the 4th of July? The PR sniping continues....
>>577 Did she? I didn’t hear about that. She is a real class act if so. Though if he wants to win the propaganda war he will have to dial up the fashone a bit. I am not sure a revenge pap stroll in a coat with holes in it is sending quite the right message!
>>572 Sorry, I meant that the clarity of the image quality of the photos is much much better on torilla,then the images on the DM. Sorry! I should have been much clearer. In the words of former Kodak spokesman Andre Agassi, Image (image clarity) is Everything!
CB doesn't think the photos are too bad. Maybe dlisted will comment later on.
http://www.celebitchy.com/566171/is_tom_hiddleston_having_a_midlife_crisis_now_that_hes_turned_37_years_old/
>>578 Allegedly, she did, but I’m basing that on tumblr, not original (re)search :). Funny that tumblr didn’t erupt over that, but did over dog-walking pictures.
>>578: Isn't that what you want? For TS to savage Tom? For his career to end? For him to what? Suicide? Talk about class acts.
I wonder how many of you have trolled other sites to make sure they all engage in intense discussions about Tom's rapid fall to keep the memes going.
And Crazy Days has a Tom blind today too.
What is with the sudden uptight super nannies in this thread all of a sudden? There meltdown is insane.
Apparently Tom was seen, filming something for the BBC, and watching a 3rd year play performance at RADA?!
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@kathrynrose17
5h5 hours ago
Tom Hiddleston filming in leatherhead while I’m training at work 👍🏼🙃
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Grace Lilley
@LilliesForGrace
19h19 hours ago
at a play
sneezed
heard a “bless you”
turned around to say thank you
tom hiddleston blessed me
goodnight everybody
>>586 Apparently the RADA sighting was true, but not the filming sighting.And the girl just went private on her twitter, so...Oops.
>>585 You lurk at places where Tom's fans are at so why can't we lurk where his enemies scheme and plot?
>>587, >>585 Suspect we’re going to see both more mistaken sightings and fandom disagreements until there’s a project announcement and it’s known what he’s working on and where. (It’s rather like a smoldering brush fire that flares up every now and then.)
Speaking of projects, there’s now a Nov. 2019 release date for Sir Ken’s next Agatha Christie project - perhaps TH will be part of that acting company? https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fox-dates-murder-orient-express-sequel-pushes-alita-1084263?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral
I hope he doesn't work again if it means it will give some of you the opportunity to drag him some more.
>>589 I wondered about that. I think it might be just the project to get him off the bench. I do wonder if he has been saying no too much (as previously discussed, nobody seems to think he has had no project offers at all). Sure he would accept something from Sir Ken!
As for our tedious little visitor (and yes I do think there is just one of you, as Anonon has previously suspected, due to your strangely repetitive comments): if you don’t like what we do here, then go somewhere else. Or go mad and set up your own thread on 4-ch, maybe. But don’t waste our time with this pious cant about not approving of what we get up to here (since you lurk here and clearly can’t drag yourself away) or the utter bullshit about us wishing him dead. Show me one single post in which anyone has said that.
You can also spare us your tinhatted accusations of plotting (by the way, congratulations for the maddest comment from a lurker that I have seen since I started here in 2015!).
>>592 This troll has also been on the LSA Tom thread as well accusing members of the same things as well. This person is mentally disturbed.
Why do you think you have the right to have a place where no one will troll you? And LSA? That's literally slumming. They still hold out hope Tom will pull a Prince Harry. I find it funny you think there's just 1 of us who've decided to visit your little psych ward here. Guess its b/c you've been using multiple id's and just think everyone else does too.
>>595 Pic of Tom at the Nuffield Theatre Theatre!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BfPKwlOFrXA/?taken-by=tomhiddleston_daily
>>597 Happy smile - hanging with his peeps at the theatre. Good to see!
I read recently that Harriet Walter and others “joined” him as a patron of the Nuffield Southampton Theatres (https://www.nstheatres.co.uk/about-us/news/harriet-walter-and-craig-david-announced-as-new-patrons-for-nuffield-southampton-theatres). Since he did that q&a in early 2015 I am not aware he has done any event for NST. He was originally named as an “associate actor”. See http://www.whatsonstage.com/southampton-theatre/news/07-2014/nuffield-southampton-50th-anniversary-season-hiddleston_34939.html.
I’ll be glad if this marks the start of a closer association! He looks like he is having a good time.
New coat (I think!). Also, is he having his hair straightened? Compared to Wallander days it looks a lot less curly!
>>599 From those articles, it looks as patron and assoc. actor are both “ambassador” roles. Probably something he can do as much or as little of as he wants and has time for. So a positive of his current situation is that he seems to have the chance to support organizations he cares about.
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The thinking you-know-where is that the coat might be his peacoat from RadHam. The hair - who knows? It’s longer than in his youth, which in my experience makes curly hair straighter. And it might be hat hair from being out and about in his baseball cap. He’s definitely had it straightened for some of his RC appearances, though- possibly yours truly’s influence?
>>599 In this photo, his hair from the other night looks wavier (side not front view): https://www.instagram.com/p/BfOoJPjhG4J/
Tom looking good here.http://joemonster.org/mg/58675,28
Tom is still in the industry! And I think that he and his PR guy, Luke, have taken a page from the TS playbook by refocusing on charitable donations, and notifying the press about it, just like his peers do. The British actors have joined forces to fight sexual harassment just in time to promote the BAFTA film awards. Tom, Emma Watson, K Knightley, Emma Thompson Gugu M-W, Jodie Whittaker from Return to Cranford, etc. have made donations to a fund for victims of sexual assault, called the UK Justice and Equality Fund. Tom gave £10,000 and Emma W gave £1 million, and he made the contribution by name, on a GoFundMe page. Hmmm...I guess this is Tom's answer to the the Harvey Weinstein fallout, the Time's Up Movement, and acting in a Woody Allen film. Hmm... Processing. Given Tom's last 1.5years in the business, it was probably best for him to stay quiet on the issue, and let his financal contribution speak for itself. I'm a little wary of the Time's Up. The agents are heavily in involved in this. They agencies need good press themselves, b/c they knowingly led actresses to meet with a violent predator, when they many knew about Harvey's crimes.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/feb/18/actors-activists-bafta-red-carpet-calls-time-sexism
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5405641/Emma-Watson-gives-1MILLION-sexual-harassment-fund.html
Tom and Eddie R's Early Man has premiered in the US to roughly 3.2 million dollars so far at the box office so far, over President's Day weekend. I guess EM is family oriented counter programing to Marvel's Black Panther, which has swung quite a large ax this weekend.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2018/02/18/black-panther-box-office-record/349062002/
https://www.the-numbers.com/weekend-box-office-chart
Short i’vue with TH in Empire. Current project: improving 5k s time but not with Bobby cos he is too young. https://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/171058629121/zhora-salome-empire-magazine-april-2018-x
Apparently Sir Ken gave Tom a special copy of Hamlet (the one that Derek Jacobi had passed down to him): https://mobile.twitterDOTcom/IamMental_Leaps/status/965709646278295552
Seen at a performance of a play in London - participate in a “University Challenge” skit.
Yay! James Ivory just won the Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay for Call Me By Your Name! Richard II funding, here we come!
file:///storage/emulated/0/Download/tumblr_p57zdbTNUW1u5j9sco1_1280.jpg
>>609 Tom wore his Early Man Premiere styling to the BAFTAKids event at Kensington Palace, March 6, 2018. Still bearded, not smiling. Genuinely great to see him. And I'm glad to see that he's comfortable chatting to journalists again : ) Kids are psyched about Avengers: Infinity Wars and Tom has to protect that fan base.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgBGcWjl7rI/
He will soon start to rival Jordan Vogt-Roberts in the beard stakes! The beard is well below his chin now.
Was he chatting to journalists?
I was at Letters Live tonight. Half expected he would show because the venue is now in Islington, closer to home, and Cumberbatch and Olivia Colman both read letters. Sadly not!
Taylor Swift shows that it is possible to go off the grid with one’s Britishactor boyfriend: http://www.celebitchy.com/569429/grazia_taylor_swift_has_gone_off-grid_in_a_big_way_since_meeting_joe_alwyn/#comment-15867323
OT:
To Anon. and others who recommended the John Adams miniseries: I watched it in advance of a vacation in Boston. Loved it (and found it very useful when going round museums to be able to recognise and contextualise Benjamin Franklin etc). Paul Giamatti has cornered the market in grumpy yet principled lawyerly old gits (cf also Billions). Stephen Dillane was unexpectedly foxy as Thomas Jefferson.
>>614 I was joking about the press, b/c a little boy with a microphone interviewed Tom : )
Oh no! New Dailymail click bait article w new pics of Tom walking Bobby, and rehashing the TS fauxmance with rock canoodling and the tank top incident. It's her team's PR for the release of her next music video. He seems to be wearing a new grey scarf, the Hamlet grey suede boots, and black gloves.The article promotes Avengers Infinity Wars, as well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5485033/Tom-Hiddleston-sports-unshaven-beard-walking-dog-London.html
Tom not shaving is not going to stop TS from crossmarketing w him for financial gain. How much of this is contractual, I wonder? He needs better lawyers and better PR. But Luke Wilson is quite busy with Colin Firth, b/c his wife lied about her extramarital affair with an old friend who she falsely claimed was a stalker! Messy! I guess that real relationships require as much tap dancing PR BS as fauxmances, do. But Luke, solely retweeting a pic of Tom as Loki in IW from EW magazine is not going to cut it.
>>619 I don’t think that is a new scarf - Torrilla’s pics show it has a hole in it!
So Luke wilson is now Tom's publicist? Do tell! You're a fucking idiot.
>>619, >>620 At least Bobby is looking elegant. Hmmm - if this were contractual, how much of the homeless chic look could be due to TH thinking how he could be the least cooperative and digging out some of the oldest stuff in his closet?
If her PR team had anything to do with the recent pap shots of him, it's another sign of how far she's fallen. Trying to exploit a whatever-that-was almost two years later feels a tad desperate.
>>619>>622 I don’t think it is contractual, personally. It just feels to me like DM click bait. She has a single out, so boring everyday pap shots of him have a value for the time being - though surely getting more and more limited as he goes out every day doing the same thing in the same clothes (I am now sure designedly a la Leo di Caprio or whoever it was who always wore the same clothes to reduce the value of the pap shots).
>>623 I don’t really think it could be contractual - just that it would be a funny passive-aggressive way for Tom to fight back if it were!
>>621 Luke Windsor. Silly me! Maybe puppy Bobby is chewing up his clothes? Or maybe it's just Tom bashing the heck out of his clothes, as usual.
There's a shoe print on his coat and his scarf has a hole in it. He knows he's going to be photographed yet he chooses to dress like someone who doesn't wash themselves or there clothes. He has to get his act together, this depress person he's become is getting odd and crazy now. I'm surprised he hasn't snapped at someone.
Those are the clothes he uses daily to walk his dod and play with him in the park. If you ever had a dog, you know that you always come home with dirty clothes.
I'm sure that when he gets home he takes a shower and changes to normal clothes.
I've had a dog before and my clothes were never dirty even if I played with him in the park or yard. That's a bad excuse, especially since he's a celebrity and he knows he's going to be photographed. Image is everything to celebrities. Is he trying to make people feel sorry for him or what with this sad man image he now has.
>>628 If Tom wants to dress comfortably and not bother with personal grooming, and be understated in interviews, maybe he's still trying to prove to the world that he's not a publicity attention whore? And maybe he's also trying to lose some of the interest of his young Teen Beat fan girl base, as he approaches 40? This does seem like quite an over correction, though. I still hope the beard is for Ivory's Richard II.
Apparently Hugh Laurie might play Prince Phillip in the next series of The Crown. And someone just suggested that Tom could play opposite his neighbor, Helena Bonham Carter, as the toy boy lover of Princess Margaret in the The Crown series III. Thankless part in a critically acclaimed netflix series? Meh. Only if the writing is phenomenal.
http://www.celebitchy.com/569713/hugh_laurie_may_replace_matt_smith_on_the_crown_good_choice_or_meh/
There is this misconception that Tom's fan base consist of a bunch of teenage girls when in actuality it's more a bunch of twenty somethings and middle age women. It resembles the Twilight fan base. His popularity is teenage-like but the fans are most often adults.
Also how is taking paparazzi photos of walking your puppy looking like a disheveled mess prove he isn't a famewhore? He's getting photographed doing the most mundane things with his newest prop-the dog-which is what reality tv stars paparazzi photos are like. He's just making himself look pitiful and it's not helping him.
He needs to guest star on some popular show or something. Go back to square one and stop being tabloid fodder because he dated a girl his obsessed fan base hates like every girl he dates.
And if he wants to get rid of his insane overly entitled fanbase; get married and pop a kid. That'll shatter their wish fulfillment fantasies about him. Though I'm sure they'll talk bad about his wife and child ala Cumberbatch, but the fantasy will wear off aand they'll target another single actor.
>>630 pop walk shmock walk....who cares!!?? I enjoy current pictures of him. Don't care how he's dressed either. At least he's comfortable. Don't think he's pathetic. I don't wear heels and make up to clean stalls and when I'm out with any of the animals I wear what's used and comfy in case they slime me. I'd still be a big fan if he was gay or got married with kids or came from mars as long as he was happy. His career will be what it will be, there's been a lot of good actors that never made it big and others that did that shouldn't have. Que Sera Sera
>>630 Perception in the GP maninstream news is interesting. After the TS fauxmance split, E! news discussed Tom arriving at LAX from London. And even though Tom was clean shaven, was reasonably well dressed, clean cut, etc. and obviously his PR had called the paps to cover his arrival, E! remarked that no one really seemed to care about him in the tabloids anymore and how calm and relieved Tom seemed just walking around by himself, no assistants or fans in sight, and the hosts concluded that Tom just liked his life to be low key. Not sure Tom can ever prove that he's not a famewhore. But in Tom's head, maybe he thinks that compared to other actors who look 100% styled when they call paps in LA (to the same Au Bon Pain, the Brentwood Farmer's Market, Whole Foods) the identically clad Mountain man puppy pics seem less staged to the casual viewer.
>>632 I guess. But from what I've heard from the GP is that people feel sorry for him and that he might be depressed or something. I don't know if he wants that type of reaction because that just plays into some type of victim complex like you-know-who loves to play.
I wish there was a new project announcement that wasn't about Loki or yet another billionth adaptation of a Shakespeare play.
Also, looking back at TH pics outnabout, the only time I found that he looks grubby is with Bobby. Granted it may always be in the some of the same tried and true clothes and shoes...
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Twitter sighting of TH, seen on the tube yesterday, in London.
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@twhiddleston I’m the loon that left it to the last minute to say hi on the train
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Elizabeth Debicki has confirmed basically nothing about TNM2. I'm glad that TH has a gig, and yet I am no longer interested in Roper and Pine squaring off again. And Pine seemed kind of ambivalent about Jed at the end of the series, unlike at the end of the end. The book has been adapted and it has no sequel. There is no more night to manage. Think like Elsa in Frozen, and Let It Go. Or make Olivia Coleman the lead maybe, and start over...Hmm...Like a LeCarre novel meets Fargo, and Olivia has a hot affair with her sexy ex-lover in the CIA! I've solved it!
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-03-16/elizabeth-debicki-confirms-work-on-the-night-manager-sequel-im-sworn-to-secrecy/
>>637 I meant, Pine goes off w Jed in the novel, but I didn't feel like those crazy kids would make it in the movie. Or maybe they just made it look ambivalent in the movie to leave people in suspense.
Interesting little blurb on another site. I have not read TNM but I guess at the end there was something about him having grown a Cornish beard. Hinting at gearing up for TNM 2. Thoughts?
>>633, >>637 But we haven't really had project announcements/gig news. RII is still dependent on getting funding, and TNM2 on developing a good story and script. It's nice to know that Tom is still wanted, but those are still birds in bushes, not in the hand.
>>637 I didn't feel the ending of the TNM series was even ambivalent; I felt it more as it got Roper and Jed out of the way, leaving Pine free for more potential adventures that wouldn't involve either of them.
>>639 That site is stretching. TNM2 doesn't even have a story/script yet, that we've heard. So it's at least a year off and more likely two. Doesn't take that long to grow a beard.
The biggest buzz he seems to be getting at the moment is the question of whether or not Loki is killed off early in A:IW.
Pics from Dan Cagney on facebook, supposedly of Tom walking with a woman and his puppy, Bobby, in Hampstead Heath Park. The pics are incredibly blury. The poster seems to take post pics with actors a bit, so it could be true.
>>641 And the speculation has started, though very quietly. It feels to me as if, between the dearth of project announcements and the question of Loki’s fate, the fandom is holding its collective breath.
Tom with Bobby annoying an Eve. Standard person - 3rd section of this:
https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/wine-women-and-talking-about-sex-a-way-to-solve-our-problems-a3796616.html?amp
>>643 Lol the article calls him an A-list celeb. Sure, I guess with the upcoming Infinity Wars.
So puppy and a girlfriend now. Add in all the talk about the country house and seems like Tom could be settling down. Then again, his relationships so far have been more flings and non committal stuff that fizzles out after the 3 month infatuation mark ends so let's see where this one falls, serious or another short term girlfriend.
The pic is so blurry btw. Is this guy still using a flip phone? Seriously, it's like 2000 cell phone quality. How far was he that he had to zoom in so much that it pixelated everything?
Nice to see you again NewAnon. It’s been a bit quiet round here recently - Sosorry and Heynon have been keeping things going by adding links.
>>642 I don’t feel like the fandom is very excited about this. It looks vaguely like him and there is a dog in the frame, but as NewAnon says the photo was taken from space using a Box Brownie camera so who the hell knows.
Maybe he has been taking time off from projects in part to give a new relationship a decent chance? It must be extremely difficult to get anything to last beyond the magic 3 month marker if you are off to a set that’s miles away.
Although the blessed Jarthy did last a lot longer than that. Thinking about it, didn’t that relationship get going during another quiet period? I’m trying to remember. Was it 2013, when he did a lot of Thor 2 promo and not much else? No coincidence there, methinks.
>>645 There's almost been more discussion of dogs in coffee shops than there's been of a potential gf. Of course, the dog was described in detail and the woman is a collection of out-of-focus pixels. And as someone pointed out on tumblr, would he really be letting his grooming go to hell if he were seeing someone?
I felt like there was a period earlier this year when he really dropped out of sight. Since TayTo, there's usually been some sighting - out for a run, in a coffee shop, at a gas station - about once a week, but for several weeks there was nothing. This was not too long after the country house rumors. Was he away setting up his new household? On a vacay with the new gf? In South Sudan shooting more footage for the documentary? Off filming alternate endings for Loki's exit from the MCU? Only time will tell, and time ain't talkin'.
I had to google it, but yes, he and JA were spotted at Wimbledon in the summer of 2013.
Maybe the woman is JA. He was spotted with her in a cafe before the infamous Met Gala where he met TS.
Whomever it is Tom is at a better time at his life, and considering his age, to settle down since it seems he's not traveling for work nowadays.
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A fan on twitter had a nice run in with Tom.
ppawitraa @ppawitraa
Thank you for being so kind and polite🙂❤️even if I was impolite disturbance and asked many silly questions. I'm really sorry for everything I did include scared by running follow you😓 At that moment I just thought that it may be my first&last chance to meet you. @twhiddleston
>>649 It is slightly hard to tell, but is this person saying she scared him by running after him?! Because she thought it would be her only chance.....Reminds me of the fan who got into the same Tube carriage and chatted away with him till he got off. No filter. As ever he is unfailingly polite, but god.
>>650 It is pretty scary come to think of it. A stranger just running up to you and asking questions and even telling you there life story, i get images of his fans saying "He's perfect" and that he "saved their life" shivers
You would think with him laying low and not interacting with fans as much that they would leave him alone really since he's been looking depress and serious, but nope.
I think the problem is he lives in London and a lot of people live there plus tourists and expats. And since everyone has stalked him and know his regular hangouts he won't be left alone really.
So maybe him moving to the countryside would let him not be run after or caught in the tube. If that's what he wants.
>>645 Thank you, Anon! Life has been a bit crazy since the new year and deprived of my celeb gossip fun :( When google alerts popped up that Evening Standard article calling him an "A-list celeb" and bitching about the pup for no reason, I couldn't resist anymore.
I was never convinced that Jane was an actual relationship/ proper gf. The way Tom did everything to keep their connection hidden, and also his behavior at the CP wrap party, all screamed FWB/ hook up buddy to me. I also don't believe that Tom had planned the Bora Bora trip and took her. It seemed like she planned the trip and took him. He was cold AF with that poor woman. But there's no doubt she has a big soft spot for Tom, hoping he'd finally turn things serious instead of keeping it casual. Going by those pre-TayTo pics at the cafe and her sad face, the two must have been hooking up in the downtime between EO and TS. I wouldn't be surprised if he's seeing Jane again and that's who he was in the park with in that pic. Maybe he'll treat her better this time. Or whoever this new gf, hopefully he won't play those "are we or are we not" games when we know he's fully capable of acting like a bf as we saw on the TayTo tour of "love".
>>651 That's another thing. He looks beat down. I mean really beat down. He doesn't look like he's taking a break and relaxing. His face looks miserable. If he has a gf now, let's hope he cleans up a little and stops looking like shit. It's really not a good look on him. No need to let go of grooming your facial hair. That beard needs some taming. I can't imagine any woman wanting that near her face or her private parts without a good wash and some trimming.
>>652 I think he strings JA along. When he said to a reporter "she's nothing worth talking about" after she said to that other reporter that she was his girlfriend that must've been embarrassing. FWBs don't proclaim you as their boyfriend, she obviously was duped by him.
Tom only has shown off women he considers well known like EO and TS, JA is no use to him since she's an unknown. That's why i feel he'll only marry an actress whose high caliber.
JA is deluding herself thinking she can tie that ambitious man down. His career comes first more then anything, so that's why he was showing off with EO and TS but not with JA because TS and EO are in the business and can help his PR. He will only publicly show off a girlfriend if she's an A-lister. The man is crazy thirsty.
I bet that cafe pic and the hug was him telling her that he's breaking it off with her especially since he got a Met Gala invite. He was hunting for an A-lister and he got one.
I have no doubt he's still stringing her along. And to think his fans believe he would make a great dad/husband/boyfriend. The man is going to be like Clooney, not get married until he's in his 50s and is satisfied where his career is at. Also going by the ages he's been dating with EO and TS being in there twenties, he'll most definitely want a twenty something by that time since he wants children. He'll just have an endless string of women until he gets there.
I think he's a terrible boyfriend, he hasn't had a long term serious relationship in the longest. So odd that no one focused on his dating life when he was with TS when they practically have the same dating habits, thing is Tom keeps it private while TS doesn't. That's why those two are perfect for each other, they're fickle in dating and get bored easily, plus the career ambition.
There were rumors he broke up with SF because he wanted to focus on his career and SF did liked some Twitter posts making fun of Tom's speech at the Golden Globes. Plus there was that Facebook post in which she vehemently denied being married to him and her friends saying "Thank F**K".
Apparently TH went to another play and it was mentioned on twitter. This was by an all-female theatre company. Glad to know that he's still passionate about the arts, and that he's enjoying himself in his time off. Yes, Tom had to step back from the GP. But he needs a new publicist ASAP, and a new branding strategy going forwards. Unless Tom is comfortable doing theatre and scooping up supporting roles in films, from now on. Fingers crossed that James Ivory secures funding for the Richard II film.
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Why the obsession with Tom Hiddleston? He's all but retired now. His career is dead and even if he wasn't, he's gay, gay, gay.
Tom will be at a Comic Con (not San Diego) in June. Poster shows him clean shaven (!!)
>>657 Huh. Interesting. Last of his Marvel obligations? Or could this mean he'll be in A4 after all? Wonder if the panel, with Chris H and Chris E, will be on "Life After the MCU." Still, it will be a sighting of Hermit Tom.
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The DM chose Tom as the best style icon for men who are in their thirties to emulate! Yay!
He's still gay. He's always been and will always be gay. Fawn all over him if you like but you are wasting your time. You're pathetic, wise than actually. No one will hire him bc he's such a hypocrite. No studio wants to hire someone and be embarrassed by it later the way they were with Spacey. His career is o-vah.
Gay is safe for them. Probably never seen a real dick in their lives, and never will.
Tom has seen plenty of dicks-either in his bubble butt ass or his mouth.
>>658 The tickets were $200 for non-VIP autographs with him; $550 (!) for VIP autograph and photo sessions (and maybe the panel discussion). His sold out first.
>>661 The DM conveniently forgetting that the last article they ran on him was the "mid-life crisis" set of dog-walking pap shots....
He's on the cover of some NZ men's magazine this month. The full article is behind a paywall, but those who've read it say it's put together from old information. The cover picture (old, pre-beard) is nice, though. http://m2magazine.co.nz/category/m2-april-2018-full-issue/
Explore Twitter a little more closely and you'll find out that Tom was having Easter lunch with his boyfriend.
Tom will be doing IW PR in Korea w/ some of the other supporting cast: http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2018/04/02/0200000000AEN20180402007000315.html
>>668 so he'll be there with the rest of the has-beens then?
Even if Tom came out at this point, he still could not get cast in anything because he's PR and box office poison.
James Ivory keeps alluding to Richard II, and claims that the investors are looking at the project with, "renewed interest." Is this the truth or Ivory's wishing, hoping, and dreaming?! Fingers and toes crossed. There is also a video of Ivory talking about Richard II on the page below, in Toronto, and people woop woop a bit when Hiddleston is mentioned.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/mar/27/james-ivory-ismail-merchant-love-secret-call-me-by-your-name-nudity
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/tom-hiddleston-thread-part-xii.1199714/page-76
Also, Ken Branagh has just announced a brand new tv project for a novel called A Gentleman in Moscow, by Amor Towles. Maybe there is a part for Tom?
http://deadline.com/2018/04/kenneth-branagh-to-star-produce-eones-tv-adaptation-of-a-gentleman-in-moscow-1202357404/
>>671, >>672 My concern about Ivory and RII is that unless it gets underway soon, will Ivory still be around to make it? Let's hope the gentleman has great genes! And if KB can't make room for Tom in that TV project (I could see him as an earnest revolutionary), here's hoping for Death on the Nile.
Guillermo del Toro just signed a major deal with Fox Searchlight. He seemed really to have liked working with Tom, so let's hope this creates some opportunities. There are some interesting GdT passion projects here - I'd love to see the Count of Monte Cristo as a western one for Tom: https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/five-lost-guillermo-del-toro-movies-his-fox-searchlight-deal-could-revive/
It'll be interesting to see if James Ivory gets financing since Shakespeare films don't do well in today's market. Maybe Shakespeare inspired but actual Shakespeare is a tough sell. He could always go to Netflix or Amazon. Netflix is already doing David Michod's The King with Plan B and Timothee Chalamet playing Henry V.
I don't think it's a case of directors not wanting to work with Tom. I think it's more of producers being wary of him. I thought him being subdued during Ragnarok and Early Man promo was him showing he's not the spotlight hogger or famethirsty actor Tayto showed him to be. If he keeps the same subdued persona during IW promo, he might get back in producers' good graces again. Then again it's not like he got a great selection of scripts before Tayto either but TNM success was turning things around for him...until well yeah.
P.S. did you guys see Luke Windsor deleted his Twitter account? A PR agent, one with his own company, deleted his Twitter. That doesn't sound good at all.
>>674 I wish Luke Windsor no ill will. But fingers crossed that his comapany is merging with some other PR company where Tom can get some crisis PR management. ASAP.
>>675 Well, I think he's terrible at actual PR. He can do the basic stuff, that most PR interns are capable of, but when it comes to the hard stuff, Luke is not good at all. Tom's bad PR in 2016 could have been fixed very easily since Taylor had been unmasked at that point. A good PR agent worth his salt could have easily steered away from it all by focusing the attention on Tom's charity, his likeable personality, his TNM success. There was a lot to work with.
The Emmys were the perfect opportunity for Luke to sit Tom down and really rehearse with him how to portray a 180 image to the one Taylor and her team were spewing. It wouldn't have needed any attacks on her either. I don't know why Luke dropped the ball so bad when the fix was very easy. I mean being famethirsty is not a good look but it was less than 3 months and celebrities have sprung back from bad PR due to actual CRIMES. Tom could have sprung back from it easily if he had a good PR agent, ESPECIALLY after he won a frickin' Emmy. That was such a gold opportunity that night for Tom to shine, even after it. But Luke cannot PR at all. Sorry, Luke.
<<674 fuck off. He's not "fame hungry" anymore than any other actor.
Now TNM costars Hugh Laurie and Alistair Petrie want to help write the script for TNM2?! WTF? Petrie says that Le Carre has to sign off on any script for the BBC to continue it. What is happening to the script that the BBC hired a writer to craft? Or do Hugh and Alistair just want attention in order to give the series a PR boost in the papers? Hmmm...
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Lots of pictures on torrilla of TH at the London event for IW today.
The beard was trimmed, and maybe also the hair: http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4226724960678990
EO looks like she'd like to pet the beard: http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4226726454604499
I haven't explored them all, but he looked reasonably subdued.
>>681 I was just about to post but you beat me to it. New clothes! And importantly, new boots which look more durable than the suede ones. I thought he had trimmed the beard. He looks nice.
Just been looking at the Torrilla pics in more detail and I have the following additional thoughts:
1) EO’s leather dress is excellent.
2) The beard on closer inspection requires further trimming - it still looks like pubes on his cheeks. Why he doesn’t shave it neatly I do not know.
3) The suit is apparently Ralph Lauren. Everything RL does is blue and white stripe, I think. I have a bed headboard upholstered in a not dissimilar fabric!
>>683 Agree about the side beard, but I was so pleased that he trimmed most of it and the hair that I let that slide!
I don't generally like brown footwear with blue suits, but those are nice boots.
Tom looked good. His personality was off. He seems to be going for the aloof demeanor now. Lol he's always one extreme or the other, dancing bear or angry stoic. Though he had a good medium at the Early Man premiere.
Olsen's dress made me cringe. Just the shoulders part though. But her makeup and hair looks great. She definitely takes good care of her skin. Is it just me or did it seem like Elizabeth was acting more like how Tom used to at premieres? Her overall behavior was very early Marvel Tom.
>>685 From skimming Tumblr, it seems that he showed up very late, did maybe a couple of quick interviews on the press line, did nothing with fans, and blew off the rest of the press line like this: https://twitterDOTcom/SteveHargrave/status/983054895984070657one
But there are pix from inside in which he’s smiling (haven’t found a direct link yet).
>>686 Tumblr and I seem to have been wrong - he seems to have been at some StarlightUK event for sick kids - see the reply to this tweet — https://mobile.twitterDOTcom/EntNewsShowbiz/status/983059378021588993
>>686 And here’s a link to some of the smiling pics: https://mobile.twitterDOTcom/amestris_star/status/983085309058539521
There's a video of Tom's speech onstage at the IW viewing event. So Tom has moved from wearing free brown leather Ariat cowboy boots post Thor 1, to free grey suede Aquatalia boots, then to wearing free grey suede Kurt Geiger boots post Hamlet @ RADA, and now to wearing brown leather Alexander Mcqueen boots post IW?! Lucky guy!
Apparently, Tom met with children before the IW event, the same as he did immediately before the Thor 3 premiere, where he also skipped over the red carpet journalists and he was late to that event, as well. This scheduling and his muted personality seems to be his new strategy for avoiding negative press. Hmm...methinks we need new projects, not avoidance.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVLX_rl3de/?taken-by=tomhiddleston_daily
https://www.instagram.com/p/BhVLh_PlE5B/?taken-by=tomhiddleston_daily
Him blowing off the press line is very funny. Aloof with the press but laughing with other actors/fans.
I forgive the EO shoulders because the high crossover and her legs look great. Good shoes too.
He has filled out in the face - no longer has the razor cheekbones he had during TNM promo, more like how he was when filming CP. I always thought it took him a long, long time to regain the weight he lost for ISTL. When he did Coriolanus he had a little bit of a tummy - you can see it in the gifs: https://pravdoruboklon.diary.ru/p199247597.htm?from=540. That vanished completely and stayed away at least until he did the W mag shoot. I personally think he looks better with a tad more weight on him.
Tom has a brand new navy polo coat. It has a cool collar. He's seen here on twitter, posing with a fan.
Via Twitter @Mister_Floow
>>692 Sosorry. Tom is wearing the Hamlet polo coat. Here is a video of TH greeting fans at Incheon International Airport in South Korea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZijzaVJEdEw
>>693 He looked good and pretty cheerful, considering he was just off a long flight. And with arms that long, who needs selfie sticks!
Torilla pics of Tom smiling onstage at the South Korea fan event, wearing a tight light grey suit! He looks happy. Has Tom bulked up at the gym, or is he going for that offbeat 1960s Beatles' style of wearing a suit in an incredibly fitted way? Confused. A man has to be quite petite to pull that look off.
http://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4227921655206231
>>695 The fit is off - more than usual for a slim cut suit I feel. No word from yours Truly on her Instagram, so maybe it fits less well because she hasn’t had them tailor it. The look is not miles away from his pre CP Comic Con look - the grey jeans and grey jacket. Maybe he picked it himself!
>>695, >>696 The jacket of that grey suit almost looks a size too small for him - it buttons way above the waistband. And the pants just didn't sit right; in some pix it looks as though the fabric was stiff. Now,the bright navy suit with waistcoat he had in later pictures worked very well, I thought.
He really does look healthy and well rested, in contrast to KSI and TR promo especially, but even to EM. I think it helps that he's letting himself relax and smile.
Also, finally letting a stylist at his hair and beard has improved his appearance greatly!
Of course celebitchy had to like the Taffy GQ article. At least they think he looks handsome, and they're incredibly happy to seem him up front and visible on this tour, unlike the Thor 3 promotion.
http://www.celebitchy.com/573528/tom_hiddleston_looked_handsome_gingery_beardy_in_seoul_south_korea/
The DM complimenting the four who’re in Korea but taking a swipe at Tom’s beard anyway: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5607961/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Tom-Hiddleston-look-dapper-join-Pom-Klementieff-Avengers.html
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Link to all the videos and interviews from Korea - https://tumblr.tomhiddlestonnews.com/post/172991140301/all-interviews-videos-with-tomhiddleston-during
>>704 That's helpful - thanks! Any particularly worth watching?
Switching up the uniform for a shirt, likely one from TNM: https://youtu.be/PZWlGd-9aqk
Torilla pics of Hiddleston strolling among his fans in Shanghai, promoting IW. Luke is there, too. He's wearing the uniform w the Hamlet boot and his torn Nike run cap. I guess their plan is to show how popular Tom is with his fan base and avoid all spontaneous press interviews. TS is releasing the Getaway Car song about the fauxmance to coordinate w the release of IW.
http://tw.weibo.com/5047305900/4230207000318208
http://tw.weibo.com/1070541110/4230204912698071
>>706 That running cap isn't just torn - the brim looks chewed! Maybe the plan is to keep the focus on what he's wearing so people discuss that rather than anything else? (He wore that misfire of the ill-fitting greige suit again in Shanghai. Oy.)
In the second set (for those who haven't clicked through yet), he's so focused on the fans that he almost gets caught by the revolving door behind him. But his fan focus isn't "extra" the way it used to be most times.
There's what I think is a rather sweet vid of him surprising some Loki cosplayers at the London fan event: https://www.facebook.com/marveluk/videos/1495992563861015/. He's goofy behind the set, but very focused on the cosplayers while on stage with them rather than trying to pull focus to himself. Celebitchy has a reaction (not too snarky in the article - the comments are another matter): http://www.celebitchy.com/574191/tom_hiddleston_ambushed_loki_cosplayers_the_response_was_muted/
Tom talks about Shakespeare for quite a while during an interview for IW in China, starting at minute 6:22. Tom says that he has no plans to go back soon, btw.
>>708 Tom has no plans to go back to the theatre, at this time.
Article in which Benedict Cumberbatch calls Tom, Hiddlebum, and he talks about visiting Tom's house recently and seeing a Loki lunchbox in his kitchen.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/benedict-cumberbatch-privilege-marvel-muscles-martin-freemans/
>>710 Quite a fun interview - I liked the shade he cast at the ghastly Martin Freeman, who is a right miseryguts and moaned.
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Oh dear. Apparently, none of the IW cast members was such an SOB to an interviewer this weekend at the Marvel press junket, that the studio officially apologized and pulled the "the cards" (the tapes)of the interview, to endure that there wouldn't be a record. B/c Tom is one of the more well known faces in Avengers, celebitchy used his face in the header to the article, although they say in the article that it could not have been Tom, since he is so unfailingly polite to journalists as a matter of practice. The guessing game to name the rude Avenger, is on!
>>713 It's Anthony Mackie. Tom is too much of a suck up, he wants everyone to love him.
At around 2:25 in this vid, the interviewer asks Tom if he can do an impression of one of his cast-mates. Tom demurs, saying "That's all in the rear-view mirror; I'm not allowed to do that anymore." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2i_SLAQPpU
Which may explain why Luke has been hovering throughout this press tour.
In other news, for those of us in the US, Tom will be on Jimmy Kimmel with some more of the cast tomorrow night (Tues.)
Article about TH and Loki - warning of major spoilers: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/love-loki-tom-hiddleston-saved-marvel-dull-predictable-villains/
Also a link to a podcast with Variety. I haven’t listened yet but apparently there is a lot about Hamlet in there. http://variety.com/2018/film/features/tom-hiddleston-avengers-infinity-war-loki-hamlet-1202783878/
>>717 I haven’t listened yet either, but there’s a photo from it of him reading from the dictionary (to test the effect of his voice). She evidently didn’t ask about future projects, though.
>>716 Very good article - but warning that the IW spoilers start early in it. To see it ff one doesn't want to mess with the Telegraph's paywall, it's posted here: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/173361835033/for-the-love-of-loki-how-tom-hiddleston-saved
Raises some good questions about his career....
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Apparently, Maninhat productions is going to film James Ivory's Richard II w Tom, in 3D? Shakespeare meets Avatar? WTF?!
Is this new? Maninhat had this on its website as “news” in 2012(!) and also, see this: http://www.4ye.co.uk/2018/04/will-james-ivorys-3d-richard-ii-finally-take-off/
See this list: http://www.maninhat.com/news.htm
>>720 My antivirus antimalware filter blocked that site. hum...
>>720 I have to agree with Anon and the article in >>721 - it doesn't really sound any closer to being made than it has for years. And Ivory's new desire for 3D probably isn't helping. That would make the production much more expensive, would require movie chains to give up 3D showings of more profitable movies, and might even keep it out of the art houses. I doubt it could bring in enough non-Shakespeare/Hiddelston fans to compensate. He should consider staging it for NTL broadcast instead.
An article about a prominent UK casting director that I found interesting: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/apr/26/game-of-thrones-the-crown-nina-gold-casting-director . It doesn't mention Tom (though I could see him being the 'eminent actor at a dinner..., whose opening line to [her] was: “Why never me?” '). What do you think of her theory that "acting outside your natural class is unbelievably hard, as the actor isn’t in automatic possession of the array of tics and expressions that betray background. And while you can act up a class, you can’t, or at least shouldn’t ever, act down"? It could help explain why Tom has been limited to certain role. She is casting a remake of Shogun,though, and if she's looking for a Richard Chamberlain type, we know someone who's likely available....
No spoilers; this article includes another “what will happen to his career besides Loki?” section: http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/before-and-after-marvel-how-has-being-in-the-mcu-affected-the-careers-of-its-actors.php
Does anyone know if there any chance that the WWII serial killer thriller film, "Silent Night" is still a possibility?
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Reliable sources tell me Tom Hiddleston is to play the leading role in wartime serial killer movie "Silent Night"
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/fox-international-war-ii-thriller-silent-night-1201887919/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6238486/?ref_=nm_knf_t4
>>726 My apologies for the late response (darn life getting in the way). Searches just now only brought up the articles about it from 2016, and the script seems to have been around since 2009 at least. But one of the cos. involved still has it listed on their website as in development: http://whitehorsepics.com/films-in-development/
Tom spotted on Twitter, walking in the park w his puppy, Bobby, while wearing shorts and mismatched socks for some reason. He heard some fans talking about IW and just jumped into their conversation.
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>>728 Hi all! Sorry I haven’t been around - pleasures of work.
Mismatched socks photos now on Torrilla! Bobby looks very glossy and well. If these were indeed taken last Saturday, it was a very warm day in London (Royal wedding day!!) and I am mystified why Tom would go out with a puffa jacket. He must really feel the cold!
>>731 https://m.weibo.cn/status/4242955432472437
Tortilla pics. Is Tom wearing new black Nike sneakers finally? How did he, as a serious distance runner, wear older sneakers for so long? Not great for ankle support. Are those new shades? Tom seems to wear his dress socks or whatever long socks he finds in his collection instead to run, instead of athletic socks. I don't quite get this...Are those new shades? Bobby is so big! Good to see him out, though!
>>731, >>732 We’re back - hooray! Supposedly the mismatched socks are an Eton thing: http://youareadistraction.tumblr.com/post/174191958902. Wonder if Tom thought to wear them after that book was published last month?
Apparently Tom visited a children's hospital in London. What a worthwhile way to spend time, and it's wise of him not to build the visit into a big self-focused PR push for himself, with pics.
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so i kind of just met tom hiddleston and he's so nice
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the hospital i work at
amanda☽ D-21
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i only met him for like less than 5 minutes
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Apparently Charles Cumming, spy fiction author, has been hired to help screenwriter Matthew Orton write TNM 2 teleplay. Not a fan of sequels, generally. I guess the BBC really wants this to happen.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/last-rites-at-the-proms-fans-fear-after-production-change-a3853116.html
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>>744 If this is the next project for TH they better get writing!
On a sort of related note, I saw that Nina Gold, about whom Heynon posted that long read article, was the casting director for Patrick Melrose, starring Benedict Cumberbatch. Since he and TH are friends, I really did start to wonder if Heynon was right when she joked that “why is it never me?” anecdote being him!! I could just see them sitting down to dinner chez Cumby in Tufnell Park and him buttonholing her.....
>>744, >>745 Not sure if it's good news or bad that they hired a second writer. Otherwise the good (for TH's employment, at any rate) news is that the project is still alive; the bad is that it won't be happening any time soon.
>>745 In reading a sample from the English Public School book I referenced in >>735, the author writes "It has been said of Eton that it encourages aspirations, with every stone imbued with the motto 'Why not me?'" I could see Tom earnestly asking that question of a major casting director. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/English-Public-School-Irreverent-Personal/dp/178606877X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1527951956&sr=1-1&keywords=the+english+public+school+martin+stephen#reader_B07C5DH8YL)
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Tom was seen walking his puppy, Bobby! The poster casually burned TS in her tweet.
>>748 And she burned Tayto, too (about the lack of smiles - from a man known for his ear-to-ear grins).
A compilation of Tom pictures from a BAFTA event today: at hiddlesfashion on b l o g s p o t /2018/06/bafta-summer-party-2018.html. Apparently he's now an ambassador for a new initiative for them; another good step in rebuilding his cred.
>>749 Pics of the BAFTA event up on torilla also.
Reminds me how passionately I dislike the beard. I feel it somehow makes him look scruffy even when wearing a suit. Also his hair has now achieved Beaker-like proportions.
>>750 "Beaker-like proportions" - bwahahahaha! That's perfect!
The beard has grown on me, but it's so much better when he's let a stylist trim it. No stylist was involved with BAFTA - one of today's pictures was shot from behind, and his suit jacket is creased and even crumpled at the bottom.
Tom looks great. He has a beaming smile while shaking hands w his fellow Eton alum, Prince William. I feel as if Tom has channeled his War Horse-era look. Glad to see Tom getting his groove back. If Stella could do it, so can he.
#HQ##Tom Hiddleston# attends a dinner at Buckingham Palace to celebrate the innovative work of The Royal Marsden and The Royal Marsden Cancer Charity on June 14, 2018
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4251276386565438
MSN UK posted a recap video of Tom's career for no apparent reason: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/other/in-depth-tom-hiddleston/vi-AAyNlw7
The crazy clever one thinks this may be a soft reboot, and for once, I'm inclined to agree. Especially as it closely follows the 2-year anniversary of Snogging on the Rocks, which passed without any fanfare as far as I saw.
I think there is a real possibility it is exactly that, especially combined with the appearances of the last month or so - hospital visit in the UK, BAFTA for kids etc. I am not saying he was a bad or thoughtless guy, but he never did that kind of thing much in recent years, partly I am sure through lack of time. I am slightly setting aside the hospital visit while filming Ragnarok - first, everyone does that visit on the Gold Coast apparently, second TS did it so he kind of had to, and third, the PR nightmare that was Tayto was developing by then.
(Early on, he did it more. For example I think he did some drama day for kids with Cumby when he was wearing an orange puffa jacket.)
I read a very interesting article about a fixer in the Times yesterday - “Are you a Hollywood titan whose reputation is in tatters? Better call Sitrick”. Sadly behind the paywall but all about someone who exists purely to make bad publicity better. I did think about TH a bit when I read it!!
Mr Boundaries:
“I said that the Brazilian fans love him and wish someday he will go to the Brazilian Con. And then I asked what they wanted me to ask: “They wish you could come back to social media. Maybe post pictures of your dog…” And he said, looking into my eyes, “You see my dog is part of my personal life and I don’t post personal stuff anymore. Because social media has this thing where you say something and people twist.”
>755 He has learned. This also might explained why (according to tumbler) about 600 tweets recently were deleted from his account.
Tom was seen relaxinat an oyster bar in Seattle, after posing w fans at Ace Comic Con.
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Tom was spotted awarding the Lifetime Achievement Arts Award at the South Bank Sky Awards to B Cumberbatch. There is a pic.
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It’s gone the full luvvie at south bank sky arts awards as @twhiddleston presents lifetime achievement award to Benedict Cumberbatch. ‘He can do anything. He has done almost everything’ Gawd bless them both. (And so timely b/c BC’s recent Patrick Melrose was his best yet) #sbsaa
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>>758 Another picture and slightly longer quote on Twitter at /SkyArts/status/1013465410153435136
While it’s always nice to see him, I hope he’ll have more on his plate soon than handing out awards to other industry members.
New Dailymail article from one of the four TNM 2 writers, British spy author, Charles Cumming. It's happening. Not sure how I feel about this. Link below.
"Le Carré didn’t write a sequel to The Night Manager which, in the past, would have been a problem. ‘Le Carré has never allowed one of his stories to have a [film or TV] sequel that is not based on a novel,’ says Cumming. ‘So our job is to write a season that’s going to be even better than the first one, but also stay faithful to the tone of the world that was created by le Carré and to the characters.’We know Tom Hollander’s Corky, killed by Jonathan Pine (Tom Hiddleston), won’t be coming back. Hugh Laurie’s Roper was last seen in the company of some very disappointed arms buyers, but you’d have backed him to talk his way out of it. Olivia Coleman’s Angela Burr will have finished breast-feeding by now, and Pine and Elizabeth Debicki’s Jed have a romance to finish.‘All I am permitted to say is that le Carré has given his blessing to the project,’ Cumming says. ‘The four of us in the writers’ room are sworn to silence. Some characters that the audience know and love will be returning, other will not. The locations will be sumptuous, the plot as thrilling and as thematically complex as a le Carré story should be. We are all aware that the bar has been set very high in terms of audience expectations. The challenge facing us is to meet those expectations, hopefully even to surpass them.’
>>759 yes indeedy. Awful Cumberbatch hat BTW. He's indoors for god's sake.
>>760 I share your doubts. "The locations will be sumptuous"...which kind of concerns me. Having watched TNM for a second time I thought it was a triumph of style over substance - loads of money spent on it but with some really duff plotting and dialogue in places (not throughout). I am assuming that TH will be one of the loved characters that does come back. I can't imagine they'd proceed without him as in fairness he was one of the main reasons the series was a success.
Will the much loved bare backside (pretty much a character in itself) also be returning?!!!
>>761 I mentally referred to all the scenes in Roper's compound on Majorca as "Lifestyles of the Rich and Infamous!" For the next go round, it would make no sense to do TNM2 without the Night Manager himself.
Personally, if this ever happens, I rather hope they do without the Hiddlesbum. Although he talks good game about only getting naked when it serves The Work, it seemed gratuitous to me in TNM. Were Pine's shirt and jacket so short that they wouldn't cover his backside in real life?
Also, I came across this recently that calls out that scene as appearing to have been "poorly handled," given the current climate in the industry: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/good-sex-scenes-when-actors-play-it-safe-1.3525725
>>762 That is a really interesting article.
When TNM first came out I recall us discussing how uncomfortable the sex scene looked, and Anon. (where did she go? We miss her!) saying that he looked unsure about where he was “allowed” to put his hands. On the bare boobie, or not?
He is a repeat offender of the “tongue in mouth” shot, which the lady featured in the article seems to think is an absolute no-no. He also as we know doesn’t wear the pouch. I had wondered before whether, in his sex scenes, we are basically looking at how he kisses and what his moves are in real life. The lack of choreography may support that.
I wonder how many sex scenes are carefully planned in advance. Showgirls was a long time ago so it’s clearly not a new thing.
FWIW I thought that the naked scenes in TNM were completely gratuitous. He got his kit off (shirt minimum) in every single episode and my husband and I were laughing after a few weeks waiting for it to happen. What was the point, for example, of the naked al fresco shower scene? Do SAS men use this to toughen up?
So Tom was seen yesterday in London, marching in a certain parade there. With his boyfriend in tow. He's sticking that big foot of his in the closet door and stepping O-U-T!
Of mild interest:
“@twhiddleston just told us at work that football is coming home. Loki has spoken. #ItsComingHome“
From Twitter: com/harrygeddess/status/1016765925671034881
Readying himself for a football BBQ: https://hygge-in-fall.tumblr.com/post/175789413776/close-enounters-of-the-celebrity-kind
>>766 So the vacuum purchase is to clean up the mess afterwards? (Condolences for England’s loss, BTW....)
>>767 Some Henry vacuum cleaners can be used to vac up water, so I guess useful for drying tears! I am not a footy fan....!
Tom is at Wimbledon for the Men's Final today! Tom still has the beard and glasses. His suit pants look a little short, and he looks a bit crumpled from the car ride, but I'm so happy to see him out enjoying his favorite hobbies. Tom, Eddie Redmayne, and his wife Hannah are all sitting in the royal box, it seems. The first link is of Tom in a close-up pic in the box. Yay!
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An Nytimes article that details the etiquette/procedures and privileges associated with the Royal Box at Wimbledon.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/16/sports/tennis/wimbledon-royal-box.html
>>772 interesting article - I didn’t know any of this. Lucky Tom.
Pictures of Tom in London, taken earlier today. He was spotted crossing a bridge after leaving The National Theatre. He's holding a black binder. I hope that it contains a new play that he's considering!
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4262952456278887
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Another sighting of Tom in London. A woman says that Tom chatted with her girlfriend for 10 minutes, at work.
I can't even brag about seeing Tom Hiddleston anymore cause today my girlfriend had a WHOLE CONVERSATION being charming af to him. Surprised she didn't get an invite for tea round his house lol.
He came into my gf's work and they had a pleasant conversation for like 10 or so mins. Meanwhile when I saw him at my work I didn't get a chance to talk to him lol so now I'm just jelly 😂
Let's just say we both work in London, nothing really fancy but open to public. He's just such a down to earth guy that it can happen to strike a conversation out of the blue haha.
I>>774 Apparently the BFI, and also maybe the Old Vic, are in that direction too, so there are several possibilities. The binder is a good sign!
Well, the Seattle con couldn’t have been too rough on Tom, because he’s doing another one for Ace. Mid-October in Chicago: http://www.aceuniverse.com/
>>776 Yes they are! So is an IMAX cinema so Tom could just have been out to watch a film - though as you say the papers are a good sign....
>>777 I read that the going rate is £500k for one of these cons (!!!!). If you aren’t otherwise earning that is amazingly good money, which must be attractive. For 3 days’ work I would put up with it, even with the proximity to the crazies.
Amazingly there is a new project - http://thefancarpet.com/movie_news/rebel-park-productions-present-the-first-comedy-short-in-leading-lady-parts-series-to-premiere-on-bbc-four-on-july-30/
However this is a supporting role (it’s all about women’s voices) so it is unclear how much screen time he will get.
>>779 News at last! Even if the short is only 8 minutes, it’s for a good purpose - http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0bdcr9l
So apparently Celebitchy is claiming that the problematic Johnny Depp, alleged abuser of his ex-wife model/actress Amanda Heard, "pulled a Hiddleston" by dressing up in character for Comic Con-Con, by appearing as Grindelwald for the Harry Potter Wizarding World franchise. And they're review of the Depp attempt is "Blah, nope." Depp pulled a Hiddleston: he showed up to Comic Con as Grindelwald, and spoke to the audience in character:
>>779>>780 Apparently the director/writer of "Leading Lady Parts" is playwright Jessica Swale. Her most plummy leading roles are written for women, and I thought that her last play "Nell Gwynn" was only okay, but this is a great networking opportunity for Tom, that is for a great cause. Jessica's Twitter comment and the funny Teaser youtube trailer are linked below:]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOarHGJpfJs
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I made a short film about lady parts. I mean- parts for ladies. About how lady parts shouldn’t be about lady parts. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. #timesup Here’s the teaser...
Godzilla: King of the Monsters is bringing back a character from Kong: Skull Island. Is it Tom Hiddleston's James Conrad, now played by Charles Dance?
https://screenrant.com/godzilla-2-charles-dance-tom-hiddleston-kong-skull-island/
>>784 That is a terrifying thought, especially after the Beard of Doom in the reshot bar scene....!
Apparently, TNM 2 has yet to be officially recommissioned?! Are the writers just brain storming for a paycheck at this point? Wow. I thought that Tom was depending on this gig to begin the next chapter of his career. Still not a sequel fan. Very wary.
"Although the show has yet to be officially recommissioned, and there’s plenty of rumors as to what shape it will take and which stars will return, I hear that the foursome are in full swing, working on plots for the “slowly developing” drama."
Tom just performed Move It on Over w Rodney Crowell in London at Nell's Jazz and Blues Club on Thursday. Bless his heart! He looks and sounds a little rusty and nervous. Glad that he's still keeping up his friendships. Gosh, I wish that ISTL had had a different script and director.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omXbLSsEbG4
>>786 Let's hope he's not depending on this to happen any time soon. At this rate, it will be "The Night Manager - 10 Years After."
>>787 They should have given him some spoons to play, or something to do with his hands; he's not used to singing without a guitar. But once he was a few verses in and his voice had warmed up, he relaxed. Wish the video quality were better so we could see his expressions. Agree about ISTL!
>>787 How ironic that his greatest acting role is trapped in a film that I cringed over.
Rehash article in a humanitarian mag about Tom’s UNICEF work. Soft launch for the rumored release of his doc this fall? http://www.borgenmagazine.com/hiddlestons-unicef-humanitarian-work/
Tom's scene in the short film, Lady Parts, is posted here on twitter. The film posters of Tom behind Gemma Chan's head, as she is chatting on her mobile, are soo funny!
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>>791 Apologies for the source, but I found this very funny: http://insanely-smart.tumblr.com/post/176630838753/gemma-artertons-times-up-inspired-short-leading
Remember the famous “Tom auditions for Thor (the part)” story? He claimed to have gained something ridiculous like ten pounds of muscle in 6 weeks and then wore a blonde wig to audition for the part - and was shirtless. As we recall, he desperately wanted that part and had been lobbying KB for it (running into his dressing room wielding a water cooler bottle as a hammer). It was always previously told by him as an anecdote about his determination/amazingly improved physique (I recounted a secondhand story about him attending a BBQ and showing everyone his (not substantially increased) muscles).
It has now, without irony, been recast as Tom’s encounter with #metoo - the oppressive industry requires him to get his kit off in an audition!!!! I have never seen a male actor more enthusiastic about his own gratuitous nudity!
>>792 Funny, I was about to post this 1 min 'interview' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHYg9_6YuiE
I was happy to see that LadyParts is on youtube for free.
>>792 That was an odd moment in that story, wasn't it? Who knows why Tom felt the need to tell that to his castmates, or why one of them felt the need to repeat it (and add "And it’s not just women, by the way. Men get it worse to some extent.").
In the context of not wanting to be (physically) typecast, it might make sense. Given his history of getting naked in almost every film, though, not so much!
>>793 I didn't notice - was the other male actor interviewed as well? At least this hasn't blown back on Tom in any way that I've seen.
>>794 IIRC he got nekked in CP for teh wimminz, to make female nudity better/more acceptable by evening up the numbers - or something. There has never been any real understanding that garatuitous nudity is demeaning for either sex. Is this his epiphany?!
>>795 Nudity in American films is only questionable for me when the writing isn't brilliant, the sex scenes and the nudity in general aren't both propelled by character development in a realistic way and not solely b/c of director's personal fantasies or by the male fanboys' personal fantasies just to sell tickets, when the actors are not treated w respect/courtesy and are not well prepared w intimacy training before for they arrive onset to film the scenes in question, and when the actors are pressured/coerced beyond the bounds of what they've contractually committed to. America either needs to be like Sweden, where male and female actors seem to be filmed nude all the time equally and audiences of all ages are not ethically judgemental about or shocked by any nudity, or we need to go back to a time like the 1940s when the actors kept their clothes on but sparred w witty dialogue.
Pointless Bustle article about private Tom as become, and sicusses his love life: the real and fictitious including those falsely created by Hollywood gossip mags but clearly nurtured by his publicists; and of course his PR fake relationships.)
https://www.bustle.com/p/who-is-tom-hiddleston-dating-the-thor-
actor-keeps-his-relationships-surprisingly-low-key-10006922
But who is Hiddleston dating now? Well, he hasn't been pictured with anyone, he's pretty much a ghost on social media, and he hasn't given any interviews on his love life in a very long time. So my guess is he's either single, or he's enjoying a very low-key relationship that he doesn't want to share with the world just yet. And that is obviously completely his choice. As a true Hiddleston fan, whatever he's up to at the moment, I just hope he's happy and living his best life.
Sorry my keyboard messed up the link!
>>797 Someone at Bustle was really short of copy today...!
While we’ve been snoozing (cmon, Tom!), Tumblr shut down some blogs for posting copyrighted photos. So the crazy clever one is now at https://insanityclause.tumblr.com/ .
>>800 I was just going to post about this but you beat me to it. Seems like it is one particular red carpet photographer who has finally got sick of his stuff being thrown into the copyright soup that is tumblr.
I had also been meaning to post that the crazy clever one has been finding/being sent a lot of sighting of our hero down in Hampshire, in various spots - Winchester, near Portsmouth and the like. Holiday home or visiting a new special seekrit friend?!
>>802 I have a vague recollection that that sighting was London. I recall wondering if he had had a vacuum cleaner that broke or if it was a first purchase (!). You are right though - I think he was also seen in a DIY place down in Hampshire.
All a bit mysterious as he has been seen in Portsmouth and in Winchester. Portsmouth is (a) not that nice and certainly not a holiday home locale I would expect a multimillionaire to choose; and (b) a long way from Winchester. It’s not a place you would choose to shop unless you lived close by. Brits don’t have the same tolerance for Americans for driving long distances.
Oh good grief - Tom was just a clue on Jeopardy: “He won [a Golden Globe] for The Night Manager, but a Norse trickster god may have messed with his speech.”
Alive!! Seen at a q&a for a special showing of Unrelated. Torrilla has video - Joanna Hogg asked people not to film it but predictably someone did anyway.
In other news, the insanely clever one has posted a few sighting from Twitter of TH with a woman (unclear whether always the same one). Latest today. Do we await another fandom meltdown?
>>805 And lots of nice still pictures from the Q&A too. His body language is interesting - much less manspreading than in the past.
Reaction to the latest sighting-within-20-feet-of-a-female seems rather subdued.
>>806 Torrilla has some better quality pics and I have to say, he looks great. Beard trimmed, hair not too full of product and swept back, and there’s quite a gun show going on inside that dark blue jumper, which is both clean and devoid of holes. Looks like he has been using his time off to lift weights! He reminds me a bit of Ken Branagh at the time he made Frankenstein.
Yes, I noticed the subdued reaction. I have always thought his love life was an iceberg with 90% unseen, and we recall from 2013 that the work downtimes are when he has relationships, not surprisingly. The acid test will be (a) the fandom reaction if and when it becomes known who he is seeing and (b) whether it’s capable of lasting beyond the downtime and through an extended period away on set.
The reaction to Cumby’s GF and now wife has not been positive (fake baby! Stunt baby! etc). I can only hope TH doesn’t get that.
>>807 >>805 Apparently the director, Joanna Hogg stated that she and Tom had lunch together directly before the Q&A. Someone suggested that Tom could have been catching up w another friend from the Unrelated cast last week, when he was seen eating pasta w someone at an Italian restaurant and he was wearing bashed up clothes. I don't think anyone has the energy to over-analyze sightings w/o pictures in random parts of London, b/c he could be hanging out w anyone under the sun.
>>807 He does look great, doesn't he? (Even if the hairline has moved a little farther back, who cares when he's got that mane going! And he has that developed-upper-torso/thin-waist that he had during the KSI promo that I think suits him well.)
I think tip of the iceberg is very apt. Now let's hope that he does someday again spend an extended period on set....
>>808 And the speculation took a hit when one or maybe two of the sightings were from that Twitter twit who ended up deleting her account after other people called her on the fables she'd made up about him before. The only thing that makes me go hmmmm is the Hampshire sightings - but even those could be for any number of reasons.
He attended the GQ Man of the Year awards this evening. Pics on Torrilla as usual - nice velvet dinner jacket though I do think on this occasion the hair looked more scruffy for some reason! I don’t think it goes so well with evening wear. Not sure if he won anything.
Anyone else feel like we have been witnessing a targeted rehabilitation exercise over the last 7 months? Low profile publicity for IW, the odd non-Marvel appearance here and there (mostly charitable - hospital or BAFTA kids event), and then gradually sneaking in more traditional, high profile “famous person” events (ie where he turns up to something in a tux even though he probably isn’t up for an award, goes to Wimbledon etc). Gradually getting back in the public eye without getting accused of going to the opening of an envelope, and with a different image - no photos, no dancing bear, and a different look.
>>810 I haven't watched the awards videos yet, but it looked as though he may have presented, at least. His hair looked as if he's back to using way too much product. Plus the lighting and camera angles at these kinds of events are much less flattering in general than more controlled setting like the panel at the ACE con.
Image rehab is exactly what it's felt like to me for quite a while. You're right that he hasn't been at the more celebrity events until recently (skipping the BAFTAs even though Tom Hollander was nommed for TNM, for example). This GQ one was a good choice because so many other "cover men" were there too (Chris H., for one). It was nice to see him hanging with Jeff Goldblum; they seemed to hit it off during T:R promo.
Not just a different look from the hair and beard, but even different body language. Did you notice how he had his hands clasped in front of him in most of this event's photos? In the past, he tended to strike much more "male model" poses, I think.
>>810 >>811 I'm still trying to figure out Tom. When Tom first was on these red carpets he was so natural at presenting a warm and enthusiastic and grateful countenance. He was always leaning into the camera, physically owning the space, and there was light and engagement in his eyes. After The Night Manager success, at the country music awards and the GG awards Tom even swaggered quite a bit. Was TH always faking his confidence and was he also faking his desire to work a room? Did Tom never actually enjoy film promotion and its intense levels of attention? Is he still wounded from the summer of evil? Now, Tom is kind of just the human equivalent of a blinking yellow light. He's just so guarded. I'm curious to see how this career reset evolves. Tortilla pics and dailmail article about the GQ Man of the Year Awards.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6136855/GQ-Men-Year-John-Legend-Dua-Lipa-Rose-McGowan-lead-nights-winners.html
https://www.weibo.com/torilla?is_hot=1#_loginLayer_1536200963440
Yeah, I saw after I posted that he presented. That made me think it definitely is a rehab exercise. Ok, he has attended before and maybe won (?) but that was a long time ago. Ok, he and JG were both in TR - but in pop culture terms that was also a long time ago. Is he the most obvious person to present to JG? They aren’t best mates. I thought when I saw him attend that maybe Cumberbatch was going to get an award.
I alsoa thought he looked guarded on the RC. I’m not espousing the Tumblr “depression” rubbish but he looked to my mind thoroughly hacked off to have to walk the RC and be photographed, but like he was having a great time inside at the party. Like you say SoSorry, that’s a change (to my eyes). I genuinely think he used to enjoy working the RC and being photographed/meeting fans (running off while Luke wailed “noooo we have to go in”). He was refusing selfies last night - definitely new(ish). He had used to be grateful. Exactly the right word. He liked the parties and the lifestyle, appreciated that the RC was the quid pro quo, and actually enjoyed the attention. Now, I think he has decided he hates the press. Simple as that.
>>812, >>813 In the past, Tom might have been faking his confidence some times - for example, assuming he was telling the truth about being nervous when accepting his GG, he didn't look nervous. But I think a lot of his enthusiasm, etc., was real - as Anon mentioned, think of the vids where Luke almost has to drag him to the next red carpet stop!
We may never know if it was the summer of evil that changed him, the BBC calling him "overexposed," or some combination. Now "guarded" is an apt description of his required public appearances, at least for UK and US events. I do think he looks more relaxed in other countries, such as at the Mexico KSI premiere and on the A:IW promo tour in China.
It probably didn't help his mood yesterday that some of the people yelling at him on the RC were professional autograph hunters (according to a bystander's account on Twitter). He's always been stroppy (is that the right term?) with them.
I'm curious not just about how the career reset will play out, but also to see if he goes back towards former-Tom once he has a couple more projects released and they're received well. In the meantime, at least he's gotten past the nearly post-traumatic-stress-disorder look that he had when he first reappeared for the KSI promo.
>>814 I saw a short video on Torrilla and the baying from fans/autograph hunters was unreal. I don't blame him for not liking that but he used to deal with the same thing much better - there have always been professionals on the rope line.
I thought he really looked like he was phoning it in when he signed the autographs - not smiley and clearly only signing his first name.
The British press are said to be some of the worst, though still they have tighter privacy laws than the US - no photos of children's faces and no photos through windows into restaurants for example. I suppose the difference is that he saw all the negative press in the UK and it was from outlets he knew well like the Guardian and the Telegraph.
Tom is participating in some capacity in a literary debate early next month: https://www.intelligencesquared.com/events/dickens-vs-tolstoy-simon-schama-john-mullan/
>>816 I think these debates have readings - I am assuming he is doing one or more!
>>816>>817 Tom continues to leave the Summer of Terror Teenie boppers behind by reciting the work of classic authors. Love it. Can Tom please call whomever helped Colin Farrell rehab his career, b/c Colin is in the new Oscar-contending Steve Mcqueen movie w Elizabeth Debicki and Viola Davis, and Colin Is allowed to smile when he talks to the press. Colin must know the secret!
Tom is currently attending NYFW, he's wearing a Ralph Lauren Tux, and he is standing near Kanye West. Okay...what will they talk about?
https://hiddlesfashion.tumblr.com/image/177852399657
>>819 Aaaaaaaand he’s right back into the celebrity life. Guess he could always fall back on his spokesmodel career!
Tom is in the latter part of this video. Oprah is making a toast at the high table w Ralph Lauren, Anna Wintour, and Hillary Clinton. And Tom is on his mobile : )
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bncn-1cFWJf/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=11re8s38w5iwq
>>821 He usually has such lovely manners, but he's addicted to his phone!
More pix from the Ralph Lauren event:
His tide may have turned; kaiser at celebitchy led with Tom in his coverage of the event and didn't mention TS: https://www.celebitchy.com/591438/tom_hiddleston_showed_off_his_ginger_curls_at_the_nyfw_ralph_lauren_event/
And he even let a fan take a selfie with him: on instagram at: /p/BnjYKcOnRra/?taken-by=male_amato
I find it funny that this latest spurt of appearances happened almost two years to the day after the official TayTo breakup....
>>823 the comments on the CB article are interesting. Some nice ones about how after metoo being ambitious and a bit needy are not perhaps the worst sins.
I also thought it was perceptive to observe that he looks like a wet weekend on the RC( though obviously enjoying the event once inside) in part because the reboot is focussed on him not appearing to be thirsty. I had assumed it was primarily because he now loathes the paps as a result of Tayto.
Interestingly though, even the more stannish CBers do now accept that, whether you think the romance was real or fake, the decision to take it public was a totally conscious one (and very possibly one of which Luke disapproved - ie as we have always said a decision of TH/his American publicist). Nobody, but nobody, is buying the crap “people with camera phones victimise me” story that TH wheeled out last year. Seeing TS hidin her new partner and seeing how utterly he can change/control his image has perhaps made them realise that what we saw in the summer of 2016 was a conscious attempt to manipulate media coverage.
>>824 The tone of the CB comments was quite different, wasn't it?
I think his if-I-were-any-moe-subdued-I'd-be-dead look on the GQ RC could have been for both reasons, really. He unclenched a little for some of the RL pix, possibly because it was in the US, possibly because the focus was more on the clothes than on him - here are a couple of the ones I mentioned in >>823:
https://www.weibo.com/torilla?is_hot=1#_rnd1536719773973
https://www.weibo.com/torilla?is_hot=1#_rnd1536719773973 (note the right eyebrow...)
He was relaxed enough inside the GQ shindig that he imitated Jeff Goldblum, in front of Jeff Goldblum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERg5rV74vQk
That Luke disapproved of the PR stunt might have contributed to him not being the one to shepherd Tom about during that summer.
The item that finally convinced me that Tom had to have been in on the PR ploy (however he might have felt about TS) was when it came out during IW promo that he had found out about the plan for Loki's sudden demise during a trip to LA in May of 2016. I could see him feeling that the plug had been pulled on a major part of his career, and a resulting sudden desire for all the publicity he could get.
>>825 Torrilla posted some pics of TH when he was publicising ISTL in Toronto - the relative minimalness of the unclenching at the RL event is noticeable when you look at his happy little face in those pics. Also I think wearing clothes he picked himself. Happy days before Yours Truly and TS got hold of him.
I have an alternative theory about the Summer of Swift. I think that it was part of a carefully orchestrated plan which was dreamed up a lot earlier and was intended to follow like a blaze of light from the spring of 2016 when he was promoting ISTL and TNM very hard. He had his little US grooming and lurve team (remember cheezetheboard, his one and only attempt at professional social media?). He had a new PR team in the US, Yours Truly and a LOT of appearances - on every outlet you can name and a few you can’t for ISTL and then TNM. He was on every front page in the UK for about 6 weeks when TNM was on tv.
The reason I say it was dreamed up earlier than May 16 is that there was a small but noticeable crumb trail. Out of the blue he followed her on Twitter in February 16, and then having deliberately avoided talking about EO he gave an interview in April 2016 saying “you can write that I’m single; there’s no ring on this finger.” That always struck me as an odd comment in the context of his (then) reticence about talking about his love life. Sounds a bit like clearing the decks so that a new relationship wouldn’t look like overlap. Then the Met Gala and the video leaked of them dancing, the account of him helping her off with her shoes, and so on.
Of course he could have found he was attending the Met Gala when she was hosting and followed her for that reason. But to my mind it all fits with the publicity activities of the spring rising to a long thought out pre-planned crescendo and him becoming genuinely pop culture famous (which he did, but not quite as planned!).
I think it’s easy to forget that in May 2016 he was riding very high. He had done critically well received work in a number of projects (even if the films overall were patchy). He had just finished shooting Skull Island. If he had revealed in May 16 that Loki was to die we would have thought, so what - he has other strings to his bow and it’s time to move on. He turned up to the TR set two weeks later than planned, with his squeeze, tanned and too fat (cf comments from our mole at the time). He didn’t seem that bothered about it being a huge part of his career any more (I have wondered subsequently if that explains the supposed tension with Taika Waititi). The loss of Loki only looks bad viewed with the benefit of hindsight now we know that there isn’t anything else at present. That’s why I don’t think it was a reaction to knowing Loki was going.
>>826 That's exactly what happened. I don't doubt this was planned way before the Met Gala. What his delusional fans seem to not realize is that he's super ambitious and will do anything to get to the upper echelon of Hollywood. He always says what everyone wants to hear and that's constant flattery and charm. He's very shrewd.
If only he'd continued with the publicity he garnered from TNM and be satisfied with that he would be in a much better place now. But as always his ego got too big with the little accolades he garnered and took part in the most fake celebrity relationship anyone has ever seen. His fans love to put all the blame on Swift but he chose to take this route and he has only himself to blame knowing how this woman does bearding.
>>828 God I have done that so many times! Very annoying. There is a way to get back to your text but I can’t remember which it is - I think when it says wrong captcha you have to press the back button in your browser. But I always forget which it is and do something which loses the lot...
Or you could highlight and copy the message before you click on the reply button.
>>827 I concur. The actors we respect the most, regardless of their era in the industry, we know very little about: Montgomery Clift, Brando; DeNiro; Mark Rylance; Ralph Fiennes; Daniel Day-Lewis; Oscar Isaacs...Tom needs to recognize that. Brand new pics of Tom back in London on the Underground. And he was spotted by a fan at Pret a Manger. Also, a video clip of his paparazzi posing pal Lizzie Olsen, in which she praises his ediquette in remembering the names of and in writing thank you notes to the entire cast and crew of ISTL. I think Tom is quite kind, but also so image conscientious.
https://m.tw.weibo.com/5304602143/4284305489819780
https://m.weibo.cn/status/4283772704452047
Who is Phil Wang and why does he hate Tom? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=254&v=TvcOva3m8PI
>>832 Phil Wang is a comedian and he's in a comedy show. I don't think he hates Tom he's just saying that for the show.
>>831 Interesting point. All of those you listed, though, had the advantage of establishing their careers before the internet, with the new expectation of being able to know anything about anyone almost instantly. Oscar Isaacs - I guess I haven't watched enough movies in the past few years, but I had to look up what he's done, and I have seen him in at least one film. Therefore, I think that to some extent, Tom has to be conscious of his image so as not to be lost in the crowd of all the millenial actors. (And think of how much information and entertainment we're now bombarded with - it can take being a bit "noisy" to stand out.) So that makes it even more unfortunate that he damaged his image.
Working my way backwards, to see if I can reconstruct some of my pre-captcha thoughts from the other night.
The main reasons I don’t think that the SoS was planned too far in advance:
• The longer they planned it, the more time there was for someone on his team or in his family to question whether it really was a good idea and persuade the rest.
• The longer they had, couldn’t have they have come up with a more realistic-looking romance? (“Let’s get them photographed in the new paparazzi hot spot, Rhode Island! Let’s have them meet each others’ families after only a couple weeks!”)
The reasons I think it more likely came together in May (at least on his end) - although we might see him as having been riding high then, he may not have felt that way, especially if he’s extremely ambitious:
• CP had poor box office and mixed reviews; ISTL had poor reviews for the film itself (which killed his chance of lots of awards noms for his performance); and High-Rise had both low box office and mixed reviews, most of which focused on Wheatley’s interpretation and not on Tom’s performance. Yes, TNM was a huge hit in the UK, but it wasn’t over here. And the reviews of it from major US outlets uniformly made a crack about “one long Bond audition tape.”
• KSI turned out to be not the leading-man role he’d signed up for, but a comparatively small part in a very large cast.
• Then came the news about Loki. While I agree that he probably didn’t care about the role from an artistic standpoint any longer, it was a great safety net for his career – a big paycheck, lots of publicity, and good reviews every few years. Not easy to get that kind of good thing going as an actor.
• So at that point, he might have been off balance enough to agree to a really bad idea to get him a lot more PR.
All that said, I hadn’t heard that he started following TS in Feb. ’16; I knew she had followed him several months before the Met, but not the reverse. And that “no ring on this finger” comment was strange, though it could have been a Freudian-slip message to his current FWB (EO, JA, who knows?) that their thing wasn’t serious (right up there with “nothing to write home about”).
>>836 The PR thirsty Team Swift started following Tom way back in 2014, b/c they're always desperate to portray her as a sexual being. This is partly why her PR relationships are so utterly unbelievable. She's not a Rihanna or an Angelina Jolie, or a Scarlett Johansson-type (and who is, by the way?) She is just a stiff model wannabe who knows how to awkwardly attempt to hold hands w a man while mimicking his style of fashion, and looking down at the ground demurely. And then her fans, others suburban girls, live through the fantasies that her PR team create in the tabloids, which is why they are so protective of the fictional narratives. Anyway, they followed Tom after relationship expert and future Real Housewives of New Jersey star Siggy Flicker was asked to analyze a potential relationship between them for an US magazine Valentine's Day article. And Tom didn't follow back till right before he presented at the CMA Awards in 2016.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/taylor-swift-and-tom-hiddleston-and-more-celebrity-couples-wed-like-to-see-2014142/
Career news! Tom and Elizabeth Olsen will be doing a Loki/Red Witch tv series for the new Disney streaming service under Marvel Studios?! "The actors who portrayed these heroes and villains in the Avengers films and their spin-offs, such as Tom Hiddleston and Elizabeth Olsen, are expected to play them in the streaming shows." I'm nonplussed.
>>838 It sounds prettt speculative TBH. I see Marvel has not commented!
Not sure of the credibility of the Standard but they're saying that TNM2 may not happen.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/londoners-diary/the-londoner-light-fades-for-the-night-manager-a3939916.html
Looks like the good and the bad happened to him in the past 24 hours.
>>841 Two inaccurate statements in that article:
>>836 Sorry for not responding to this earlier - a lot to chew over re timing. I’d be interested to know if you now think it was fake (separately from the question of when exactly TH bought into the publicity plan).
I just keep looking at how she has been with her new lover - almost totally off grid even though she has supposedly been seeing him for more than a year. There have been maybe two or three stories with fake (ie arranged) pap shots, and maybe one or two with genuine fuzzy as hell pap pics. It feels real in a way that a lot of her other relationships just haven’t (not only Tayto).
>>843 I’m still mulling my answer to that - more to come. In the meantime, I found this for potential discussion, related to Tom’s film career going forward: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2018/sep/13/juicing-work-outs-monetsising-self-obsession-acting-mark-wahlberg
The reintroduction continues: https://www.jw3.org.uk/event/ahjw3-speaker-series-tom-hiddleston-and-josie-rourke , and it’s sold out, of course.
The reintroduction continues: https://www.jw3.org.uk/event/ahjw3-speaker-series-tom-hiddleston-and-josie-rourke
Sorry for the duplicate - I thought captcha ate the first one!
Taffy is still milking her 15 minutes of fame, now with the lovely comment she apparently made to Tom of "Tom, this has been the best week of my life. You should try to enjoy this more. I know it was tough with the Taylor stuff, but this is really amazing."-- https://www.celebitchy.com/593530/taffy_brodesser-akner_has_a_great_story_about_tom_hiddleston_apologizing_to_her/
>>848 I saw this a few days ago - was going to comment and never got round to it. That woman is a piece of work isn’t she? Does a hatchet job, then milks it frantically for weeks on end, then mills it again while revealing she has been a complete bitch!!
The news on the other front is - interesting. I didn’t bother getting tickets though they hadn’t sold out when I looked (a few hours after it had been announced). The rehabilitation rollout continues.
Do we think this presages a work announcement? Or is it part of a plan to get that work by showing/reminding everyone that he is - well, let’s not put too fine a point on it, not as nuts as Tayto might have led one to believe. I am inclined to think the latter. I reckon that after it became apparent that Tayto had killed his buzz, he did what was already booked (IW filming in April 17, contractually required publicity), took a loooong holiday from auditioning (grew beard, bought dog etc), started the rollout very quietly and is probably only recently pursuing projects more assiduously.
Pretty harsh words, and uncalled for, calling her a bitch. Obviously Tom didnt think the interview was bad since I'm sure his publicist gave the ok to run it and Tom himself was liking Twitter posts that approved of it the day the interview was released. I'm sure he's still friends with Taffy now much to your displeasure. The disgusting ageism and misogyny of his fanbase never fails to surprise me.
Oh rly? Well, it never ceases to amaze me how many sanctimonious nannying cunts there are in Tom’s fanbase, who lurk on this board in the hope of sucking up some gossip simultaneously with pretending to be above it all and whingeing when we say something mildly critical. Piss off back to your nanny blog on tumblr.
Mildly critical? You mean with your foaming in your mouth outburst and misogynistic language. Calling women a cunt or a bitch because she told a funny story about the media calling her "mystery brunette" because she was photographed and hugged Tom and mistakenly thought of as Tom's girlfriend. Good thing Tom is charging $200 plus dollars in dealing with you psychos. I don't blame the man in not dealing with his toxic fanbase, especially on social media. Poor guy.
>>852 No, I’m calling you a cunt, actually.
I’m calling her a bitch for telling him “I know it was tough with the Taylor stuff but this (meaning her 5 minutes of fame at his expense) is really amazing.” Anyone else - meaning anyone who’s been on this board for more than 3 seconds - think that was a bit self-absorbed/unkind/bitchy?
By the way, I think it was you upthread who said “As always his ego got too big with the little accolades he garnered and took part in the most fake celebrity relationship anyone has ever seen.” So it’s ok for you to say whatever you like but one comment you disagree with and suddenly you are defending him against his “toxic fans”? Fuck off, hypocrite.
>>852 “Tom is too much of a suck up, he wants everyone to love him” - that was you as well wasn’t it?
You must have a personality disorder if you think you can post stuff like this and then throw around dirt about his “toxic fanbase.”
Talk to me when you can stop with the ad hominems and using derogatory words like cunt, bitch or whatever type of crap you think up. Can you do that? Dont worry I'll wait. Until then you can take your own advice and fuck off.
I notice you aren’t denying it was you who said these things, and that you are in no respect able to answer the criticism that you consider yourself free to say whatever you like while getting on your high horse about others’ views that don’t satisfy whatever mysterious morality criteria that exist in your head.
Well, I’ve been commenting on this board since 2014. I will say precisely what I please and you can suck it up. I won’t be going anywhere.
And I will make one further observation about you and your ilk.
People come in this board and say all sorts of critical things: Tom’s losing his hair, he looks like a scruff, his interviews are extra, his relationship is fake. There has been robust disagreement over the years about whether those things are true or not, but the rule has always been, no criticism of someone for expressing those views. Everyone has a right to their opinion.
It is always, always, the mark of trolls (including you) who come along and seek to criticise the person for expressing the view, and not the view itself. You’re a bad person, a bad fan, or in your charming words a psycho or an misogynist for expressing the view. Almost always the troll is a new or infrequent visitor to the board as well, but obviously a lurker who shows themselves to be every bit as “invested” as the people they seek to criticise.
And you trolls are slowly but surely killing this board. Remember Anon.? (She who started this board which you are so high-handedly seeking to order me off?) She was one of many who made it what it was - she found twitter sightings before anyone else did and they all took them off to tumblr from here. Or Anonon who had great gossip from the TR set. They and many others left because they were sick of people like you coming here and making your sanctimonious little complaints that we were bad fans for expressing our opinions. Well good luck. When you run the rest of us out of town there won’t be anyone left and you can all sit in the tumbleweeds together hoping that Tom reads this and pats you on the head for being top fan. Good luck with that.
You're projecting. A lot.
>>857 Well said.
>>849 I was wondering, myself, if this event was to make a project announcement quietly, maybe one with Josie Rourke. But given that he's recently turned up at a couple of well-publicized events, you're likely right that his rehab/reintroduction rollout is kicking into a higher gear.
Warning long post. Dgaf if no one reads it or not especially to the person whose it aimed at. This is for posterity sake more then anything.
>>857 So you're taking the "free speech" approach as in "no one judge my opinion and I can say whatever I want without anyone judging it". I called you out because you called Taffy, for no apparent reason because of an innocent remark she said, a bitch. She didnt call Tom names and also reassured him that he didnt need to apologize about the Daily Mail thinking her, a married woman, as his girlfriend. She was telling him it wasn't his fault and she found the claim funny because he was scared of a type of Hiddleswift fiasco again. You on the other had judged this woman for no apparent reason a bitch because she didnt reply the way you wanted to. Do you even know what the definition of a bitch is? Apparently not since you're reading into something that isn't there with her and with me.
You can say whatever you want, but since this a public forum where anyone can join and everyone can judge your opinion about this person, deal with it. That's what free speech is; dealing with the consequences of your opinion in a public forum no less. Say whatever but people will call you out and that person just happened to be me. If you dont want the public to join in then make your own forum and pick and choose whose allowed to join. Problem solved.
I've seen a lot of his fanbase not only harass but use misogynistic language aimed at the women he has relationships to specifically (cunt, whore, bitch) just because they "didnt treat Tom right" whatever the arbitrary "right way" it might be. And theres no mistake it's because they dared to be within arm length of Tom or had/have a relationship with him. Fans are so entitled to this man they have no relationship with. Can't allow someone you or some of the fanbase disapprove of said woman because she will be labeled a cunt or bitch because "reasons" or something arbitrary or simply jealousy or competition.
Plus Tom is the actor, a public figure, he knows it comes with the job in people judging his looks or the typical actor ego. He even has admitted to being pretentious. Taffy isn't an actor whose whole thing is about showing off an image to play with the general public and to Fans. She simply told a story that was aimed at her simply because she was in the close proximity of an actor you're defending for no reason simply because the female reporter didnt say the exact words you would've said if you were in her place.
Tom has taken no offense with her and the interview and if he had he would've told his management to pulled the interview. This is a grown soon to be 38 year old man and you're defending him like he's some child star who cant defend himself and has no idea what he's doing.
Btw people on this same thread have observed him of looking unwell and losing his hair, a thing he himself has admitted to but I dont see you getting their old quotes and calling them a cunt.
You'll probably come with a TL;DR or have some other drawn out reply attacking my character. Yes I judge Tom Hiddleston alot of people do, all celebrities are judged what a shock. I'm sure you'll call them cunts as well or something worse. But I have to remind you freedom of speech is a two way street and I can say whatever I want as well, especially on a thread whose sole purpose is to discuss things and have debates. You simply went off the deep end and attacked my character simply because I called you out on calling this woman you dont know a bitch because of her innocent story about her and Tom.
The one whose exhibiting nannying tendencies is you, you have not called Tom any derogatory names when he has done some unsavory things like hooking up with taken women knowing that they're in relationships (Olsen and Swift). But he's not a whore right? No no must be those cunt women right?
You who have turned this whole discussion not about asking me why I think you calling Taffy a bitch is misogynistic but of projecting onto me of being a troll because you got PTSD from some other people who didnt conform to your ways and thinking I give a flying fuck about being some actor's #1 fan when, as you've quoted from my past posts, I do no such thing (and even if i were I'm doing an awful job of it with calling out his ego, sycophantic fans dont say the stuff I've said about him).
Oh and btw people who disagree with you aren't trolls so look up that definition along with bitch and what those two words mean before you start accusing people of being either.
I said my piece you can do whatever as always. You can be more colorful and add more derogatory slurs which I'm sure you will do. I'm just posting this out of posterity really I honestly dont care if you reply back. Because I know with the way you replied to me I know no such thing as rationality will come out of you.
Finally thanks for proving my point that his fanbase contain some, more often then not, misogynistic people by you calling me a cunt. So thanks for confirming that, you just proved my point.
On Torilla, a couple of pictures and a short video clip from the "Dickens vs Tolstoy" event today. Lots more of both on social media/tumblr. A video should be posted by the organization in the next 10 days or so. His hair may need its own postal code soon, but he looked good (in uniform, but good).
>>862 Rehearsal pics of Tom rehearsing and performing at the Dickens/Tolstoy reading event.
https://tw.weibo.com/torilla/4290973045862488
https://tw.weibo.com/2647686781/4290867374395956
And now Tom will be performing alongside David Suchet, Patrick Marber, TNM castmate Russell Tovey, Hollow Crown/Deep Blue Sea castmate Simon Russell Beale, Kristin Scott Thomas, etc. in a charity gala celebrating Harold Pinter's birthday, "Pinter at the Pinter"! I'm still wondering what his next project will be. If Tom is really doing the Loki online series for Disney, what does this cerebral thinking man re-boot of his career have to do with that? Is that just about money?
Happy Birthday, Harold will take place on what would have been the Nobel Prize winning playwright’s 88th birthday on October 10th
Charity event will raise money for Amnesty International and Chance to Shine
https://www.londontheatre1.com/theatre-news/cast-announced-for-charity-gala-to-celebrate-harold-pinters-birthday/
And now Tom is taking a classic pap walk, while walking Bobby with a tall "mystery brunette" in London. Let the madness begin.
>>865 The DM calls her a pal, and also notes that Tom is currently single. Tom's slightly questionable PR team is back, and it is in full effect, gosh help us.
>>863 Thanks! Here's the longest set of video clips I've seen, but they're not good quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWeB2ExC-w
>>864 Well, no one has officially confirmed the Loki series (even Tom's PR tweeted about it and then deleted the tweet). Maybe he and EO will be asked about it at the Chicago con - they're doing a panel together.
If he does do it, it could just be for the money. Maybe he's going for the sort of life where he does a lot of small charity/passion projects, and does something more pop-culture oriented now and then to finance the rest. I hope there are some videos from the Pinter performances - Pinter's work is so [pause] stylistically different [pause] from anything I've [paaaaauuuse] seen Tom do before.
>>865, >>866 Funny how this comes only a few days after some tumblr anons were commenting that we haven't seen him out with Bobby in quite a while. From what I've seen, reaction to this has been surprisingly subdued (though I haven't checked Twitter - taking a break from the political firestorms here, which have been stressing me out a lot. Thank goodness for new Tom content.)
>>869 I think that we're just calmly bemused at the lack of creativity of his PR team. They're definitely well intending one-trick ponies. Remember when Tom took a pap walk w that brunette in the short skirt, while walking in his neighborhood, and she was a regular at Ginger and White? Now we have another brunette on a scheduled neighborhood pap walk, and she is apparently in the TH fandom, and became a local resident and a regular at Ginger and White to meet Tom?! Joanna gets press for her singer/songwriting career, he gets a little press for the day. Also reminds me of when Tom was seen out and about w his RADA chum Sian, but the photos are even more benign.
A few more torilla pics of Tom on the pap walk, while talking to a mother and a daughter who are either fans or they are asking him for directions.
https://www.weibo.com/torilla?refer_flag=1005055014_&is_hot=1#_rnd1538680686777
Celebitchy is pretty biased against Hiddleston: "My vibe from the photos isn’t “hot and heavy.” I’m not even sure that Tom is capable of looking hot & heavy with someone in candid photos..." Ouch. but maybe it's good that even Tom's critics acknowledge how he's consistently pulled back from the press and from PR shenanigans, and is trying to get back to a more grounded life.
"Here’s some good news, maybe. To think that just two or three years ago, Tom Hiddleston would have caused worldwide headlines whenever he was photographed with a lady, but nowadays, he can walk down the street with a woman and most people just shrug. I think that’s what he wants, by the way – he had a taste of what it was like to date someone super-famous and have his every public appearance scrutinized, and he doesn’t want that anymore." "
https://www.celebitchy.com/594875/tom_hiddleston_was_seen_in_public_with_another_mystery_brunette_lmao/
Lots of pictures of Tom (and other participating celebs) at the afterparty for the Pinter birthday event tonight: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/tom-hiddleston-attends-an-after-party-for-happy-birthday-news-photo/1051850720
There should be some video of the event out tomorrow.
Very excited Twitter sighting of Tom on the tube, w a script in hand, perhaps.
blxzinharry/status/105033220186956595
>>875 yvonne
@blxzinharry
Sosorry. This is the full handle for the twitter sighting of Tom on the tube. She wrote quite a lot about the sighting.
Pictures of Tom, Michael Kors, Kate Moss, and his his old Suburban Shootout costar Ruth Wilson at an MK cocktail party.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/tom-hiddleston-attends-the-michael-kors-cocktail-party-to-news-photo/1051904938
Apparently the chance of The Night Manager sequel is not looking good. I'm kind of relieved about this.
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/the-night-manager/news/a866663/night-manager-producer-update-season-2-not-looking-great/
>> 878 Not surprising at this point, and probably just as well that it won’t happen if they can’t come up with. a great script.
Excerpts from the Pinter celebration: https://www.facebook.com/PinteratthePinter/videos/347313169169223/
>>872 "Celebitchy" is the title of a series of pretty nice clothed JAV. I thought I'd let you know.
Tom Hiddleston and Richard Madden attend the press night of 'I and You' at Hampstead Theatre in support of his Tom's Early Man film costar, Maisie Williams. Richard Madden is kind of wearing Tom's uniform w brown chelsea boots instead of grey, and he's just starred in this year's The Night Manager, The Bodyguard. Wild.
Guess who’s doing another comic con? TwitterDOTcom/ACEcomiccon/status/1056249060070440961
New pics of Tom buying two new pairs of Hunter boots at the Hunter store on Regent St in London.
>>882 The salary for those conventions must be pretty good. Or maybe he signed a K agreement to do a certain number of conventions w ACE this year.
>>883 Now let's hope he buys some new jeans to replace the ones that sprang a hole at the last con!
Cons do pay off really well for popular celebrities. That he's doing so many in a row suggests a contract, a lead-in to something Loki, or a last chance to cash in on that role.
Tom was just seen in classic white tie and tails at the Annual Banquet of the Worshipful Company of Shipwrights, held at the Mansion House in London. There is a great pic of the invitation, and a short paragraph about Tom's Scottish ancestors who worked in the shipping industry on the hiddlesfashion blog. I'm not sure his messy hair and beard go with such a distinguished dress code, but it's great to see him out and about. Tom's image reboot continues, but what is he rebooting towards? Hmm...
Deadline states that the Loki/Scarlet Witch w Hiddleston and Olsen series is one of several "potential series" tipped to be offered with the new Disney streaming service, along with a Winter Soldier/Falcon series, set for late 2019. We shall see...Btw, why wasn't Tom cast in Kenneth Branagh's new film about the life of Shakespeare starring Ken and Dame Judi Dench? And apparently, casting for Ken's Poirot sequel Death on the Nile has started and includes Armie Hammer and Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot. Fingers crossed that AH didn't swipe the romantic male lead part of Simon.
https://deadline.com/2018/10/falcon-winter-soldier-tv-series-disney-streaming-service-marvel-1202492782/
https://deadline.com/2018/10/all-is-true-kenneth-branagh-shakespeare-movie-release-date-sony-pictures-classics-1202492136/
https://deadline.com/2018/10/tom-bateman-death-on-the-nile-fox-new-release-date-1202483308/
Apparently the reviewers are not claiming that the new LeCarre/BBC adaptation of The Little Drummer Girl is as seductive entertainment as "Hiddleston's buttock-baring spy romp" Night Manager hit. I guess that's a compliment of sorts.
"On this evidence, one third of the six-part whole, this slow-burner lacks the instantly seductive appeal of Night Manager." "Though it is more faithful to its source novel than Night Manager, the screenplay by Michael Lesslie and Claire Wilson strips out much of le Carre's moral and political anguish without adding enough of the sexy thriller elements that made Tom Hiddleston's buttock-baring spy romp into deluxe pulp television."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/little-drummer-girl-review-1152192
>>889 I suspect Armie Hammer wouldn't have been announced for the DOTN cast unless he will be the romantic male lead, alas. But also maybe just as well for Tom - the release date for it just moved almost a year later than originally scheduled: https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/murder-orient-express-sequel-hit-big-delay/
Maybe Tom will have a cameo in KB's Shakespeare bio. From IMDB, it looks as though the principal cast is quite small. But yes, this project would have fit in quite nicely with his current off-the-radar approach.
Summary of the speakers' event with Tom and Josie Rourke last week: https://www.ahf-jw3series.com/event/tom-hiddleston-josie-rourke/
There will be an official video of it soon, they say. Some very nice pictures in that post! I particularly like these:
He looks happy and healthy (and hairy).
I was rather expecting some kind of project news to come out of this, but no, not even a hint of some future collaboration that I've seen posted.
>>889 Kevin Feige has confirmed that there will be streaming series, but didn't say with which characters.
In the full HR article: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/2018-hollywood-reporter-producer-roundtable-1156131
>>881 (This finally should catch me up on his appearances) He's back to his glum "official pictures in the UK" face in these.
Quite a contrast to how much like "old Tom" he looked at the Chicago comiccon, for example: https://66.media.tumblr.com/5106277d13a3795457ce44c270f936be/tumblr_ph1hodDbTJ1t6jp58_500.jpg - there are tons of photo ops pictures on SM in which he's genuinely smiling and laughing.
Tom at the Breakthrough Brits by Reception Burberry in London.
https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/tom-hiddleston-attends-the-bafta-breakthrough-brits-x-news-photo/1058673566?share=site_twitter
>>895 Not one of his better hair appearances.
He’s doing yet another con, this one as a replacement for Seb Stan - see tokyocomiccon on Twitter.
>>895
http://www.miaopai.com/u/paike_1u70qjruum
Minivideo of Ton at the BAFTA Breakthrough Brits Reception by Burberry.
Tom Hiddleston is officially confirmed for the Loki Disney series. Wow. I'm numb. Should be a solid paycheck, but how does his career as a dramatic actor evolve as well? Does he do plays when he is not filming? Is he still going to fight for supporting roles in dramas? I'm confused.
https://mcucosmic.com/2018/11/08/tom-hiddleston-confirmed-to-star-in-marvels-disney-series-about-loki/
>>898 Boy, it’s starting to feel like “what career as a dramatic actor”? At least based on what we have (not) seen for the last 2 years, except for RadHam. His Brit and MCU peers all seem to be getting work, and he’s getting... convention cash. I wonder if he’s working on moving into producing or directing and is building up a large sum with which he can bankroll projects.
I have’t seen anything about the length of the Loki series, have you?
Tom (or someone on his behalf) tweeted about the Loki series: twitterDOTcom/twhiddleston/status/1060955612413079558/photo/1
I find myself more excited by his return to social media than by the series itself.
I wonder how it feels to have tanked your own career.
>>892 Full video of the talk with Tom and Josie Rourke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBbV34yptsE
Interesting event - looks like a cross between poetry and a play: https://www.the-print-room.org/theatre/poetry/dead-poets-live-the-broken-word/
New pics of Tom walking Bobby today in London from Torilla. He's wearing the uniform, of course : )
https://www.weibo.com/torilla?is_hot=1#_rnd1542172775899
Tom just posted a new work project on Twitter w a brand new video!! Speculation is that this is a teaser trailer for a new TV adaptation of the lauded Harold Pinter play Betrayal. That is currently unconfirmed, but Hiddleston did wear this suit, while appearing at a London gala honouring Pinter just last month.
https://www.pedestrian.tv/entertainment/tom-hiddleston-betrayal-twitter-clip-speculation/
>>905 Very interesting. His scene at the Pinter gala was from "Betrayal." I googled, and it hasn't had a major production in London for about seven years, which seems to be a typical amount of time to pass between its revivals. And as of the date of that Josie Rourke interview, her last production at the Donmar hadn't been announced yet.
>>906 I also meant to say, a Rourke/TH collaboration would help explain that otherwise rather random interview/career retrospective event.
>>905 - >>907 Yup, it’s Betrayal but with another director: https://www.pinteratthepinter.com/the-plays/betrayal
Tom filled in for his Hollow Crown co-star, Jeremy Irons, w George MacKay, Yasmin Paige, Faaiz Mbelizi, and Toby Jones on stage at the for Dead Poets Live: The Broken Word reading. He wore his old 2015 McQueen suit w black leather boots for the event, and changed into his uniform for the reception. Apparently, Tom specifically said that he didn't want to take pictures during the after show drinks reception, but here are a few of the photos of the event and the reception. ALso, a pic of Tom riding the tube, a day or so ago.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqVlPWAAZor/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqTGvLpgaZ5/
>>909 I didn't know he was filling in for Jeremy Irons. Funny, given that in the film of Betrayal, Irons played the role that Tom will be doing on stage.
Video from the Dickens v. Tolstoy event: https://youtu.be/gLXpYJDdEUI
Al Pacino will be starring in a film adaptation of King Lear. Team Tom should try to nab him a role in this. Maybe Edmund, as his friend John Macmillan just played that part in the BBC version w Anthony Hopkins? Or Edgar, perhaps?
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/24/scarface-star-al-pacino-plays-shakespeare-king-lear-epic-movie
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6425759/Al-Pacino-play-King-Lear-film-adaptation-Shakespeare-play.html
>>912 That could be good - per the Guardian article, Pacino's "Merchant" made better money than most Shakespeare films. It's supposed to start filming next fall, though, which might conflict with the Loki series going into production.
If he does get a role in this, I'd like to see him play Edgar rather than Edmund. I don't think he needs another villain on his resume right now.
And he could work on his Pacino imitation :).
Torilla pics of Tom walking Bobby on Nember 27. He's wearing a new black Nike windbreaker, and black Nike running shoes.
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4311117645749085#&gid=1&pid=1
>>914 Any dog owners out there - is it an obedience training thing not to interact with your dog while out for a walk? Or do we think the paps just can't sell those pictures?
>>914 More dog-walking pictures here: http://www.justjared.com/2018/11/27/tom-hiddleston-flashes-a-big-smile-while-walking-his-dog/
Behind-the-scenes shots from the Betrayal trailer - some nice b&w photos of Tom: https://www.facebook.com/pg/dusthouse/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10155675245926384
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Tom's arrival at the Tokyo comic con - this picture shows him wearing (gasp) new pants and new shoes (though the same uniform): https://www.weibo.com/torilla#_rnd1543635161833
Arrival at the airport yesterday with Luke in tow: https://www.weibo.com/1846858632/H4TFfqB1u?from=embedded_weibo&type=comment#_rnd1543635245614
Apparently Tom Hiddleston was mentioned in a story in The Cut, in an article alleging that Priyanka Chopra's relationship with, and marriage to Joe Jonas is completely fake and for PR purposes. Well, Duh! Allegedly Priyanka wanted a PR relationship w a famous celebrity to cement her status worldwide status, and the article said that Tom didn't make it to be her selection. I knew that Emmy Awards onstage twirling session would come back to haunt him! No more hanging out near thirsty people, or being thirsty yourself, Tom! They had to cave in and remove the article, though.
https://jezebel.com/priyanka-chopra-isnt-a-scammer-her-fame-just-stumps-ma-1830880335
>>921 Though not hanging out with thirsty people could be a challenge, given his profession (especially the movie industry).
Speaking of which, I was sorry to see that no sooner had the new Loki series been announced, his rank in the Bond betting jumped up again. I so wish that would stop.
Tom at a BFI event last night with Prince Charles:
https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/national/17281382.charles-reveals-fondness-for-pink-panther-movies-at-film-event/
On Twitter at /BFI/status/1070702520396320769 (more pictures on torilla)
Pics of Tom visiting with staff of a children’s hospital today: https://www.instagram.com/p/BrGSqFFA38e/
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This Week in Hiddlesland
Ending Dec. 23, 2018:
-- this one involving quantum mechanics: twitterDOTcom/OrigamiOgma/status/1076180692567027712
-- bonus from the previous week - one of a tube sighting with photo (via tumblr since the OP removed the picture): https://zerofucksclub.tumblr.com/post/181110308271/tom-on-the-tube-i-may-need-to-start-a-new-tag-for
Oh dear. The oral surgeon father of actress Maddison Hasson, who played Tom’s teen bride in ISTL, Billie Jean, has been accused of sexually abusing at least four women while they were under the influence of anaesthesia and in his care at a clinic in North Carolina. This includes one count of 2nd degree forcible sex offense. I hope that these women receive swift justice under the law. Those poor women. Of course the DM used the picture of Tom w Maddie at a premiere of ISTL. This story is so disturbing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html
>>927 The thought of someone you ought to be able to trust taking intimate advantage of young women is bad enough, but to do it when they were under anesthesia is despicable. I hope they throw the book at him.
At least the DM didn't use the ISTL picture at the top of the story, and restrained themselves from somehow working TS into it!
P.S. Welcome back! I was wondering if I was the only holdout....
>>928 Thanks for the welcome back. I think that people are just waiting until more of the Betrayal PR really kicks off, or news of an additional new project pops up. Tom looked so awkward, guarded and self aware in the pics of him leaving Craig's restaurant in LA. It's like he has his fingers crossed that no one calls him a famewhore for doing pap strolls, and that no one writes about TS in the DM articles. Pics of Tom leaving Barbara Broccoli's pre-BAFTA party at the Savoy Hotel from Torilla. Please no more silly Bond conversations till Daniel Craig is finished with his last film!
Pics of Tom attending the press night for Ivo Van Hove's new production of All About Eve w Gillian Andersen and Lily James. I love Ivo Van Hove, but All About Eve is a pretty perfect movie, and doesn't need to be a stage play. Neither does Network or To Kill a Mockingbird, IMO. His Betrayal costars, Zawe Ashton and Charlie Cox were there, too. Tom's wearing his burgundy sweater under his navy pea coat, which is a nice change.
Very nice rehearsal shots of atom and the rest of the Betrayal cast: https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/tom-hiddleston-betrayal-pictures-harold-pinter-rehearsals-a4068396.html
>>929, >>930 Interesting contrast between these sets of pictures. In the first two (Craig's and pre-BAFTA), he's scarcely smiling at all, even in the posed shots at the party. But he's all smiles in the ones for the press night. Because he had company for that event (his Betrayal co-stars)? Because he knows he's about to have to do more events as promo for his play and he needs the story not to be about how glum he looks? At least he finally trimmed his side beard and the dimples are once again visible.
>>929 Saw a day or two ago that the next Bond flick has been delayed, so the silliness will be prolonged. At least there weren't any articles after B. Broccoli's party about Tom / Bond.
>>930 Heartily agree that All About Eve is a great movie and doesn't need to be a play! From what I've seen about To Kill a Mockingbird, though, it seems like enough of a different interpretation from the movie that it's a justifiable adaptation.
Tom and his co star Zawe Ashton were spotted watching Martin Freeman and John Heffernan performing in the play, The Dumb Waiter, at The Pinter Theatre.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuKXJdiFpXT/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=W2DHAwAAAAGAiQ2TofhvTD1ZBGse
Twitter sighting of Tom and Zawe Ashton at an art museum.
/artxtom/status/1099361493836070913/photo/1
>>934 I hope that was "homework" for Betrayal, or cue the rumors....
Article on the new Loki Series, and the new Scarlett Witch/Vision series. Apparently these new Marvel projects will work in the same timeline with the Marvel films, and they will be supervised by the same creative team as the films, contrary to the other Marvel shows so far. The actors will sign on for only 9-10 series at a time. Hopefully Tom will get to executive produce the series, make some serious residuals, and negotiate a pay raise after season 1.
http://collider.com/disney-marvel-shows-mcu-connected-kevin-feige/#images
Pictures of the cast of Betrayal.
https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/theatre/tom-hiddleston-betrayal-production-pictures-harold-pinter-a4083881.html
Apparently Bobby was waiting at the stage door: twitterDOTcom/cumberbatchlive/status/1103425177419988993/photo/1
>>937 These photos seem to capture the mood of the stark setting very well. And could that be a new blue sweater? It’s even tighter than usual.
Video of Tom and his costar Zawe Ashton seen leaving the theatre together, in his car. Heading to a party, maybe?
http://gremlinmd.tumblr.com/post/183342863295/after-the-evening-show-of-betrayal-on-march-9th
>>940 Could be - he looked to be carrying a bottle of something alcoholic. But it also looked as if he got in the front seat of the car, while Zawe was in the back, so I doubt that this glimpse together means anything.
I like that Bobby has been there for every performance except the matinee day!
>>941 I agree. Apparently co-star Charlie Cox was also in the back of the car, that's why I said co-star Zara, and not rumoured gf, or anything. And Yay! Even celebitchy and the commentators are calling out Taylor Swift for her silly Elle magazine article, and for her habit of orchestrating PR relationships and PR friendships for beneficial press to sell albums. Since all of her stunting partners, including Tom, Karlie Kloss, and even Kim Kardashian have emotionally moved on, and are not talking about her, and that TS is the problem. Wow! Where were they durnig the summor of terror?!
>>941 https://www.celebitchy.com/613079/did_taylor_swift_spill_some_blind_item_tea_about_tom_hiddleston_karlie_kloss/
Pics of press night and solid reviews for Betrayal, and Tom! Hurrah. Dailymail critic review was mixed.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6806783/Tom-Hiddleston-attends-press-night-new-play-Betrayal-London.html
Tom unknowingly photobombs group in restaurant:
Random recent bits I’ve found interesting:
>>941 Oh, the Celebitchy commentators were busy defending the reality of the Summer of Terror during it, IIRC!
>>943 That first DM review read as if the writer had to be restrained from including Tayto and the Shirt of Shame yet again. The second review was more professional, though they singled out Zawe as the best of the three: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-6808407/Tom-Hiddleston-powerful-presence-Betrayal-Zawe-Ashton-steals-show.html
>>947 thank you! Good to see he’s out and about again, in his element.
Tom interviews film composer Nicholas Britell, composer of If Beale Street Could Talk and the HBO show Succession, on the Only Artists program on BBC Radio 4. Tom is in his cerebral element. And of course he mentions The Last of the Mohicans soundtrack, and he quotes his lines from Othello. Tom needs to improve his classical musical references, though. We all love Debussy Claire de Lune, but enough of that, already. It was mentioned in the teeny bopper film, Twilight.
>950 He was probably too busy perfecting his dance moves (in his misspent youth in the '90s) to have spent much time on the classics!
Clip from another BBC interview, this time with Tom and Zawe about Betrayal: https://twitterDOTcom/BBCFrontRow/status/1108431700512698369
The full program is here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003d97
Tom Hiddleston is a racist, communist, fascist, white bastard that raped his mother and sister, mutilated and ate six baby children, and is in complete support of genocide of the entire human race.
Tom’s commercial for Centrum vitamins is linked below. Um. Hmm. Ew?! I’m not a fan of this commercial. But I hope that Tom was paid well, and that the commercial is well received in China. That’s all.
>>954 And the gentle teasing about Tom's Centrum Vitamin commercial commences.
"Through the transitive property of A equals Tom Hiddleston and B equals Centrum, A plus B means Centrum is now an aphrodisiac. That’s just math."
>>954 I can't stop snickering about this! I'm with you - it's so cheesy, and then a little creepy when the very young woman appears at the end.... But the comments I've seen from people familiar with Chinese ads say that this one is typical, and cute; plus his Mandarin pronunciation is apparently perfect.
Tom's feelings about this might have leaked out in the little skip he does just before opening the door at the end, and the "I'm done with stage door tonight, thanx bye!" wave on his way out. So let's hope he was paid very well.
>>955 The comments on that piece are a hoot!
More gentle coverage and comments: https://www.themarysue.com/are-we-dating-tom-hiddleston/
Some coverage of fan reactions to the A: Endgame Loki poster that Marvel dropped yesterday:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/film-tv/marvel-avengers-endgame-loki-tom-hiddleston-poster-alive/
https://www.buzzfeed.com/eleanorbate/avengers-endgame-poster-loki-theory
I Best comment in this one: “This is the creepiest commercial I have ever seen, and I am including Matthew McConaughey’s “Driving Lincolns While Stoned” anthology.” https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/tom-hiddleston-vitamin-ad/?amp
What has this world come to? A gossip columnist sticking up for Tom and The Commercial? And it's not an April Fool's joke! https://www.laineygossip.com/defending-tom-hiddleston-and-his-centrum-vitamin-commercial/52335
>>960 I hadn't gotten to the comments on that piece - too funny. (And see - we're not the only ones who wear tinfoil hats when needed!)
963 Tom looked good at the Olivier Awards today: http://www.justjared.com/2019/04/07/tom-hiddleston-looks-handsome-at-laurence-olivier-awards-2019/
Whoever styled him did a much better job than the person who claimed credit for him at Zawe Ashton's book premiere. Today, he was wearing something other than his blue peacoat, the beard is closely trimmed, and his hair looks clean!
No streamed or recorded Betrayal: On Twitter: /JamieLloydCo/status/1115252013464522752
Tom and his Betrayal costars, out at a play together. I Wonder what play it was.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwXdUG0A30J/
The only thing I've come across recently, besides stage door pictures and Loki (Endgame complaints, series speculation:
https://www.thestage.co.uk/advice/2019/dear-west-end-producer-what-are-the-key-skills-become-a-successful-actor/
If you can't get past the paywall (try stopping the page from loading as soon as you see the article), here's the relevant bit: "Thirdly – if you decide to go to drama school, go to one that has “royal” or “academy” in its title: these are considered the best. They are supported by well-known ex-graduates, and have the nicest facilities due to posh people donating lots of money (in return for getting limited edition tickets to see Tom Hiddleston performing in absolutely anything). You will undoubtedly leave one of these schools with an agent, a lover, and the prospect of a career that pays above Equity minimum."
Thor 4 with Tom, Jeff Goldblum, Cumberbatch, and Cate Blanchett directed by Taika! I'm excited and yet fearful that Tom will never escape Marvel.
>>967 Apologies for the delayed reply. That's a good find, though it seems rather speculative to me. Even if it pans out (and I'm with you in having mixed feelings about that), it may not be for some time. Taika seems to have a lot lined up for the near future: https://deadline.com/2019/06/taika-waititi-flash-gordon-animated-movie-thor-ragnarok-jojo-rabbit-fox-disney-1202637059/
The good news is that Tom's been getting some nice coverage for the China/BAFTA trip, as I'm sure you've seen. And he trimmed the beard and hair AND wore more than one outfit! (Damn, that man was born to wear a double-breasted tux!) He looks so much more relaxed in those photos than he has at an event in a long time.
>>969 Also, while I don't doubt Tom's sincerity as a BAFTA ambassador, I think it's a clever move on someone's part to have him maintain a public presence in China. Their film market is only going to continue to grow, and his popularity there might help to persuade producers to hire him, even if he's not a major box office draw in the West.
Tom is making his Broadway debut along with Charlie and Zawe in Betrayal! Yay! Tom’s first Tony nomination could be on the horizon! We shall see. Here we go!
>>971 I know - that's such great news! I hope this will include a good profile interview or two (about something in addition to Loki).
Lots of pictures of Tom with the Cumberbatchs at today's Wimbledon men's finals on torilla's page: https://s.weibo.com/weibo?q=%23Tom+Hiddleston%23&from=default (hope the link works - I have trouble with weibo links)
Hope he was comfortable in that suit for the 5-hour match!
Tom's in NYC for Betrayal and it posted on the Gram: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bz-9uFqglus/
This is Tom’s new Sirius radio interview about his arrival in NYC, his Pinter play Betrayal, Shakespeare, his Broadway debut, etc.
https://m.weibo.cn/u/1846858632#&video
Forbes article that includes Betrayal sales - looks like mixed results so far: https://www.forbes.com/sites/leeseymour/2019/09/09/tom-hiddleston-is-selling-just-fine-on-broadway-as-industry-slows/amp/
>>977 it'll go up to positive in just a few days watch!!
Anyone in the U.K. may now have access to the NT Live recording of Tom’s Coriolanus performance: http://www.playbill.com/article/national-theatre-releases-archival-production-tapes-in-new-educational-initiative
Betrayal is running a 2nd round of Meet-and-Greet package evenings (the first ones were this past Thurs. and Fri.): https://broadwayplus.com/shows/betrayal/
Wonder if these were always planned or if they need to fill orchestra seats.
From one participant's post last week, there were about 9 or 10 VIPs for the session, and they only got a total of 15 minutes with the cast. Doesn't seem like enough for the price, especially if you don't get to choose your seats.
In addition to the live performance, the Betrayal cast's appearance on Live from Here (the former Prairie Home Companion) will be broadcast live on Nov. 16th, and the video will be available until late the next day:
"Watch Live: See the show from 5:45-8 pm ET on Saturday, November 16th, via our video livestream on YouTube. The stream will then be available to view until Sunday, November 17th, at 11 pm ET.
Listen Live: Hear the show on your local public radio station from 6-8 pm ET on Saturday, November 16th. You can also find the live audio stream on our website, www.livefromhere.org."
I hope they do a skit!
A new modeling gig! http://www.hiddlesfashion.com/2019/11/bosideng-x-tom-hiddleston-2019.html?m=1
Crimson Peak is on a list of hottest movie sex scenes: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2013/09/53441/movie-sex-scenes
It's hard to find anything that hasn't already been posted on one of the tumblr blogs, but here's some final info about Betrayal's box office in NY: https://www.nytix.com/news/broadway-show-ticket-sales-analysis-chart-w-e-12-15-2019
Scroll down to the text after the week's list. The article says the show had a "modest" box office, at an average 81% of capacity. I wonder if that's because it was only six years since the last NY revival, which had greater star power with both Daniel Craig and Rachel Weisz, or if there were other reasons.
I don't agree with the article's take that the production split critics down the middle. I felt like more reviews were positive than not, and the ones who didn't like the show either didn't like Pinter in general or relay didn't like the staging (but still praised the cast's performances).
I did go to see it, if anyone wants to discuss....
>>988 Well, I would like to hear your personal review of the play.
>>990 You broke your promise you motherfucker!
Im gay
>>992
We know, but are you gay for Tom Hiddleston?
hiddl hiddle
A bit of non-Loki news that I haven’t seen elsewhere. Tom will be one of the readers in a new audiobook series called “Letters of Note,” which is somewhat related to the Letters Live performance he did. https://www.thebookseller.com/news/canongate-launch-audio-editions-letters-note-1193872
>>993
Uhh, are YOU?
>>998
Who isn't?
